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VOTE
Thread started by steponme at 09.25.08 - 2:34 pm

Im sure I don't have to remind you all to register to vote and take some actual steps to make a difference .We need all the votes we can get and if we all sit around and complain but don't get out and vote we have nothing to do but blame our own hipocracy and ignorance. This is a large network!!!!!!!! encourage your friends and family to vote. Don't say it doesn't matter or oops I forgot. This is the time and with more and more effort and concern we can make the change that we so often complain is needed or has been squashed by the monopolies of power from corporate interests and corrupt governemtn officials. Make it happen NOW VOTE and register if you never have or need to renew.

http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/elections_vr.htm

For some real news reporting check out

http://www.truthout.org/



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+100000



MOM-RIDA-Raquel
09.25.08 - 2:35 pm

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yeah for one response it only takes one to make a difference



steponme
09.25.08 - 3:13 pm

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only the godfather of heavy metal is qualified.. or this guy, but he's not available at the moment.





asparagus
09.25.08 - 3:36 pm

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I'm registered, and I haven't received my sample ballot yet... have they shipped them yet? I have no clue what's on the ballot, other-than the obvious presidential thing...

there is only one thing that will drive me to vote for a president this year, yes there are times I leave that one blank... because they're always BOTH asshole... but it's the fact that potentially TWO seats on the Supreme Court may open up during then next four years, and who gets to appoint someone for those empty seats? The President. SO, if you care, and I normally don't, your choice for president will have a BIG effect on laws to be written, destroyed and interpreted for a LONG LONG time, and that is basically because of those TWO seats out of 9(?).. get it? It's currently NEO_CONSERVATIVE heavy, and they're already talking about overthrowing some basic rights, namely reproductive and privacy. So yeah, it's important.

I still may write in JOE BORFO for President, and SEXY for VP.



the reverend dak
09.25.08 - 3:45 pm

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YO!
yesyesyes
VOTE

also- PLZ PLZ PLZ do not wear anything repping your choice of candidate (whoever it may be) to the polls. THEY WILL TURN YOU AWAY and if you want to vote you'll have to go and change.
every vote counts.

SRSLY



moondance
09.25.08 - 3:48 pm

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wait? What? I can't wear my Joe Borfo t-shirt?



the reverend dak
09.25.08 - 3:59 pm

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I is registered to vote....



redridinghood
09.25.08 - 4:02 pm

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@ DakSo if we win, will you say the prey for us in Oval Office?


@Mr. You must vote
Let say I don't vote for the Borfo/Sexy ticket.

I vote for McKinney-Clemente or Nader-Gonzales ticket. Will you chastise me for throwing the election to McCain?

What I'm saying is voting is a personal choice. Don't tell anybody how to vote, or to vote if they don't want to. People have many valid reasons to feel they don't want to vote. RESPECT THEIR CHOICE. To Choose or not to choose. You want to vote go ahead. You want to vote against your own interest, go ahead. I want chastise you. I may or may not feel pity on you when they come and eat you, but I won't chastise you for your vote



sexy
09.25.08 - 4:37 pm

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We live in a plutocracy; I vote every day for more organic farms. What did you vote for TODAY?



alec
09.25.08 - 4:49 pm

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I am Registered NOT to Vote:D








Kidding I already marked it on my Pug Calendar!



puglife
09.25.08 - 6:19 pm

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Just think, the next President may have to fill two Supreme Court Seats. Lets say McCain wins by cheating and then drops dead. Do you want that Psycho Lunatic filling those seats. I thought Bush was dumb, she makes him look like a Harvard Professor. This is fucking scary! VOTE!!



illy
09.25.08 - 6:23 pm

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just please know who you are voting for and why
you dont want to be debating that issue while ur casting ur vote.

you should have all your issues set and be out of the booth in 20seconds



aksendz
09.25.08 - 6:39 pm

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You tell 'em Wanda!



JB
09.25.08 - 7:05 pm

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Vote!



illy
09.26.08 - 12:01 am

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IS MY NAME ON THE BALLOT?



eddieboyinla
09.26.08 - 12:02 am

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hey is anybody down to ride all day promoting people to vote?

i'm willing to take the day off, and do my part by reminding everyone to vote.

if most people are like me, i filled out my voter registration at the dmv cause it was simple enough.

i think we just need to ride around all day reminding people to get to their ballots. ride from like 8AM till 5 PM.



ijunes
09.26.08 - 12:32 am

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Pleas​e,​​​ pleas​e,​​​ pleas​e advis​e every​one you know that they absol​utely​ can NOT go to the polls​ weari​ng any Obama​ (or whoev​er you are votin​g for) shirt​s,​​​ pins or hats,​​​ it is again​st the law and will be groun​ds to have the polli​ng offic​ials turn you away.​​​ This is consi​dered​ campa​ignin​g and no one can campa​ign withi​n a certa​in amoun​t of feet of the polls​.​​​ They are banki​ng on us being​ excit​ed and not being​ aware​ of this long stand​ing law that you can bet will be enfor​ced this year!​​​ They are banki​ng that if you are turne​d away you will not go home and chang​e your cloth​es.​​​ Pleas​e just don'​​​t wear Obama​ gear of any kind to the polls​!​​​ Pleas​e share​ this infor​matio​n,​​​ oh and for those​ of you who were alrea​dy aware​ this was not meant​ to insul​t your intel​ligen​ce.​
​​

See you at the polls​.​



Jazzy Phat Nastee
09.26.08 - 12:34 am

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Pleas​e,​​​ pleas​e,​​​ pleas​e advis​e every​one you know that they absol​utely​ can NOT go to the polls​ weari​ng any Obama​ (or whoev​er you are votin​g for) shirt​s,​​​ pins or hats,​​​ it is again​st the law and will be groun​ds to have the polli​ng offic​ials turn you away.​​​ This is consi​dered​ campa​ignin​g and no one can campa​ign withi​n a certa​in amoun​t of feet of the polls​.​​​ They are banki​ng on us being​ excit​ed and not being​ aware​ of this long stand​ing law that you can bet will be enfor​ced this year!​​​ They are banki​ng that if you are turne​d away you will not go home and chang​e your cloth​es.​​​ Pleas​e just don'​​​t wear Obama​ gear of any kind to the polls​!​​​ Pleas​e share​ this infor​matio​n,​​​ oh and for those​ of you who were alrea​dy aware​ this was not meant​ to insul​t your intel​ligen​ce.​
​​

See you at the polls​.​



Jazzy Phat Nastee
09.26.08 - 12:34 am

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imho, i can put my vote to its best use by casting it for the leading third party.

for presidential elections, california is a pretty reliable state for the democratic party. whether i vote democratic or republican, i don't think it would make a difference.

it's better to use my vote to help a third political party reach the required threshold of the national popular vote so they can get matching federal funds. currently, it's basically impossible for a third party candidate to get the same level of exposure as democrats & republicans due to much much smaller levels of campaign funds.

eventually, it will pay off by giving us more (serious) choices in the future.



MegaBITE
09.26.08 - 1:10 am

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I'm against voting. But what was said in this post got me really excited. First, what if McCain wins, and he dies? Then we have a president who was a part of Alaska's Independence Party, aka a group founded to succede from the US. We have someone, head of the US, who was a part of a group, pushing to stop being the US?


I'm excited for this.

All because of this post I am voting for McCain.

Thanks everyone!



Jaz
09.26.08 - 3:45 am

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I also find it hillarious that people get so amped up for voting, when the whole thing is some sort of weird reality show "Choose your next dictator!".


http://www.strike-the-root.com/vote.html

Everyone interested in voting shouldn't read those links, and quick a few make nice points, enough to perhaps sway you from voting.

Also those who aren't interested in voting, but need reasons behind such emotions, as those who vote tend to be very angry at those who don't vote....even though not voting is a choice, just the same as their choice for a specific candidate, this site may pique your interest.



btw. <3 you crazy people.



Jaz
09.26.08 - 4:09 am

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Ok I still dont get the logic behind that yes its a choice and its also a choice to feel no responsibility to make things different and let millions of Americans face unemployment, see the mentally ill roaming the streets and without services, see our environment be destroyed by ignorance and neglect, see many Americans without proper medical care and no way to pay for care. I love todays generation especially in LA. Entitled and deserving and living in individual walls of self rightous BS. Oh everything is fine I can just relax and think of my next needs. Take and never give. So you dont vote or care. You were given rights for a reason to take choice and make it work. Vote or no vote its your choice your right. keep passing the buck and let everyone else pick up the slack. Im not sure what your saying about the Alaskan either but maybe too much FOX news great resource for learning the truth ---------not



steponme
09.26.08 - 9:18 am

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ijunes -->love ur idea. nothing better than stirring up ACTION!
Personally, I DO NOT CARE WHO YOU VOTE FOR AS LONG AS YOU DO IT! Even write in Borfo, if you want. If you don't vote, you have NO RIGHT to even open your mouth and complain. Yes, the system needs some changes. No, you're not gonna fix it bitching and moaning and buying into the idea that not voting has any impact. Don't be stupid. Get up and get your ass to the polls!



kryxtanicole
09.26.08 - 9:28 am

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@ijunes
+1
I will take the day off work to and join you if you do this....



MOM-RIDA-Raquel
09.26.08 - 9:33 am

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· In 2000 George W. Bush won Florida’s electoral votes to give him the victory in the presidential election by 537 votes out of 5,861,785 votes cast.

· In 1996 Ron Wyden won election to the U.S. Senate from Oregon by one percent of the vote.

· Patty Cafferata defeated Bob Kerns in the 1980 primary election for a Nevada Assembly seat by one vote. Her margin of victory may have been larger if at least three of her family members hadn’t forgotten to vote!

· A tie vote in a 1978 race for the Pennsylvania Legislature resulted in neither party having a majority. A recount broke the tie and gave control of the House to the Democrats.

· In 1977 the mayor of Ann Arbor, Michigan was elected by one vote.

· In the 1974 New Hampshire Senatorial race, Louis Wyman appeared to be the winner by 542 votes. But after a recount, John Durkin was certified the winner by 10 votes. Still later, the decision was reversed and Wyman was declared the winner by two votes. After a year of court battles and controversy, a special election was held; Durkin won.

· Woodrow Wilson was elected President in 1916 by winning California with a margin of three-tenths of one percent of the vote.

· Marcus Morton was elected Governor of Massachusetts in 1839 by one vote out of 102,066 cast.

Important decisions that affect us all have been made because of one vote.

· In 1997, just one vote in the Texas legislature passed the Texas Ten Percent Plan that created a more egalitarian admission criteria for the University of Texas system.

· Women won the right to vote in 1920 by the passage of the 19th Amendment to the Constitution. Tennessee, the last state needed to pass the amendment, ratified the amendment by one vote.

· One vote in the Electoral College elected Rutherford B. Hayes to the presidency in 1876.

· One vote in the Senate saved President Andrew Johnson from impeachment conviction in 1868.

· One vote in an important Congress gave statehood to Texas in 1845.

Voter turnout makes a difference.

· In the presidential election of 2000, only one out of every three eligible 18-24 year olds voted.

· The turnout in Election 2000 was one of the four lowest in the last 20 presidential elections.

· Massachusetts ranked 14th in voter turnout in the nation in Election 2000.

· The highest voter turnout in a presidential election between 1924 and 2000 was in 1960.

· In 1960, 75% of the voting-age population in Massachusetts voted. In 2000, that number had dropped to 58%.





MOM-RIDA-Raquel
09.26.08 - 9:37 am

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+1 Jaz

The most effective way to keep slaves productive and/or prevent revolution is to make them believe they have rights and choices.







asparagus
09.26.08 - 9:52 am

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bump not voting



alec
09.26.08 - 10:13 am

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i'll make it a ride posting.

you can't talk shit, if you don't vote!



ijunes
09.26.08 - 10:21 am

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Just a quick reminder

Even if you feel voting for the president is a waste of time, there will be many other issues on your ballot. Same sex marriage and (2) on alternative energy for example. Plus a number of bond issues.
These things are worth you time and interest, even if you are jadedon the pres/vp thing.

So please get off your ass and read up on this stuff and vote on it.

Yes Sexy I know it is a choice not to vote on this stuff too. I strongly disagree with that position....but, you remain awesome either way.

Have a great day all.



Drew
09.26.08 - 10:25 am

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+1 Ijunes



steponme
09.26.08 - 10:35 am

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"The most effective way to keep slaves productive and/or prevent revolution is to make them believe they have rights and choices. "

No, the best way to keep slaves productive and prevent revolution is to give them ACTUAL rights and choices, and then let the slaves delude themselves into thinking they don't have either.

There isn't an external force made that can compete with self imposed delusion.

See, e.g., every religion ever.

No one is more helpless than those who accept helplessness.

(That said, if you really think the difference between Obama's and McCain's Supreme Court selections won't have any effect on women's rights, you probably shouldn't be voting.)



JB
09.26.08 - 10:41 am

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@MOM-RIDA-Raquel -->where'd u get that info? it's good to kno.



kryxtanicole
09.26.08 - 11:04 am

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roe v wade will never be overturned.. both sides of the fake 2 party system benefit from it. it diverts attention from real issues that if were ever brought into the light would cause riots in the streets.

this system has been transformed so that only criminals can hold higher office. if you feel comfortable supporting criminals, go for it..

if there was a candidate that ran on the "i'm going to build a prison and toss every motherfucker responsible for the destruction of a free country in it and throw away the key" platform i'd be the first in line to vote.



asparagus
09.26.08 - 11:49 am

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I agree that they are all criminals, but, some are petty thieves while others have robbed this country blind. We have all stolen something at one time or another, but most of us would not steal on a large scale like rob a bank. There is a big difference.



illy
09.26.08 - 1:16 pm

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@kryxtanicole
http://www.lwvma.org/votingdifference.shtml



MOM-RIDA-Raquel
09.26.08 - 1:18 pm

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*facepalm*

I had paragraph after paragraph ready to be sent in, and my browser crashed. *facepalm*

Basically, it's everyone's right as a human to voice their opinions. By not voting does not detract from that. In today's system we are force fed our choices, without actually being able to make a choice towards what we want. And by we, I obviously mean me, as I do not support what most people support, at least that has been my understanding of responses to how I feel about how life should be.

until Kropotkin rises from the grave, I don't think I'll support anyone's rise to power. I mean first, I think he would change things for the better, and if not, fuck him then. Plus come on, zombie ruler? That'd be awesome.



Jaz
09.26.08 - 5:03 pm

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vote or die mothafucka, VOTE OR DIE! if you do not vote, i will fucking kill yo ass!

hello? i'd rather vote FOR something, rather than just... voting.

"vote! remember to vote!"
"i've been paying attention and i think either candidate will not fix what is really wrong in this country."
"if you don't vote its YOU who should feel bad policies first!"

wait a minute, WHAT?

i'm probably going to vote. and i'm going to vote for Nader because it doesn't matter who Californians vote for, its gonna go to Obama. But to say that people who do NOT actively choose to fuck themselves over by voting someone in should be penalized for the failures of the person chosen by people who DID vote. . .

that doesn't seem a little... i don't know... retarded to you?



the_futurist
09.27.08 - 2:28 pm

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Deadline to register is coming to an end. Register and vote.



illy
09.27.08 - 11:46 pm

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Sarah Palin 1984 Beauty Pageant - Watch more free videos

Yeah, what was I thinking? Like the difference between actual government experience and doing well in a swimsuit competition actually matters.



JB
09.28.08 - 8:15 am

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i turn 18 november 5th.

the election is november 4th.

bitches.



Frozen Fingersss
09.28.08 - 9:17 am

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McCain '08!



meow
09.28.08 - 2:08 pm

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Also remember that voting is more than picking one of two talking heads for president, but that are a number of local issues that are important too and more likely to effect you directly.

Vote Yes on R & Prop 1A



GarySe7en
09.28.08 - 2:16 pm

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VOTE.
yes vote every day with your deeds and dollars
but go to the poll on Nov.4 and VOTE

People with privileges find it much easier to do the lazy thing and say it just doesn't matter, cause its all corrupt, evil, and it just doesn't matter.

There are some orphans and widows in Iraq who just might disagree with you.

But even even you can't bring yourself to hold your nose and pull the lever for a mainstream candidate at least be counted by voting for a third party ... or by voting for other shit and leaving blanks where you don't have a good choice.

Politicians aside.
Do the right thing and go out and vote even if it is only to oppose prop 8.

Right wing loonies some how think the world is going to crumble if we don't abolish the rights of gays to get and stay married.

If you sit at home and let the bigots steal our marriage rights.
You are as good as a Klansman to me and next time i see you i'm gonna wipe my ass on your white sheet.

I love (A) as much as the next person ... but dont be a douche ... go out and vote.






trickmilla
09.28.08 - 2:27 pm

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