Thread started by md2 at 08.4.10 - 11:14 am

Stay tuned.

Any thoughts on what the ruling will be?
Prop 8 unconstitutional?
Prop 8 constitutional?

If ruled in favor of supporters of Prop 8, then...?
If ruled in favor of opponents of Prop 8, then....?

peace and lets hope same-sex marriage is affirmed as a constitutional right. Or lets just disestablish marriage, period.

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and bicycles.



Joe Borfo
08.4.10 - 11:16 am

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"Or lets just disestablish marriage, period."

Werd!




petr0lb0mb
08.4.10 - 11:17 am

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you see, joe, I just want same sex couples to enjoy the benefits of marriage and family so they'll more than likely look to buy a house with a garage for a cargo bike and have fabulous BBQs for the bike community.

Then they can adopt / have kids and buy mini bikes.

Its all about bikes dude; dont get it twisted



md2
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
08.4.10 - 11:40 am

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I think the best chance to effectively abolish marriage in CA is to make divorce illegal!

I don't care what we have as long as the law is equally applied to all people.



trickmilla
08.4.10 - 11:42 am

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I don't care what we have as long as the law is equally applied to all people.

I doubt you mean this



md2
responding to a comment by trickmilla
08.4.10 - 11:48 am

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why not?



Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by md2
08.4.10 - 11:52 am

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really?
It it that hard to believe that I am ambivalent about state sanctioned marriage as long at the rules apply equally to everyone?



trickmilla
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08.4.10 - 12:12 pm

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Free American Flags for All!



I'm thoroughly against prop 8.



et
08.4.10 - 12:20 pm

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im for banning marriage. if the word is so damned important, let the churches decide if they want to marry people.

the state should only recognize civil unions.



tortuga_veloce
responding to a comment by trickmilla
08.4.10 - 12:28 pm

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Ok, im going to poke a hole in your argument. What if we accidentally got married?



tortuga_veloce
responding to a comment by trickmilla
08.4.10 - 12:29 pm

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which argument?
and how do we "accidentally" get married?



trickmilla
responding to a comment by tortuga_veloce
08.4.10 - 12:43 pm

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He can show you how...











Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by trickmilla
08.4.10 - 1:00 pm

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State-sanctioned marriage was originally devised as a means of discrimination against inter-racial relationships back in the "good old days" the conservatives long for.

While I in principle think government should get out of the so-called "marriage-business," no way are any average hetero couples going to get "civil unioned."
(additionally, actually saving the tax payer tons of money from having to rewrite/republish all marriage laws to accommodate "civil unions.")

Due to the cultural power of the word 'marriage,' current laws, and our constitution. gay marriage should be legalized.



SkeletonKey
08.4.10 - 1:02 pm

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p.s. I love that shirt!



SkeletonKey
responding to a comment by trickmilla
08.4.10 - 1:03 pm

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If ruled in favor of supporters of Prop 8, then...?

opponents will appeal.

If ruled in favor of opponents of Prop 8, then....?

supporters will appeal.

It's not like this ruling is unimportant, but it's not going to be the last word by any means.



nathansnider
08.4.10 - 1:06 pm

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Hoping we get all of our rights SOON!! End discrimination!



TacoBella
08.4.10 - 1:37 pm

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-- Federal judge in California knocks down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage. An appeal is expected.



Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by nathansnider
08.4.10 - 1:53 pm

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I'm sure there's a long road ahead, but HAPPY that Gay Marriage got a WIN today!



TacoBella
08.4.10 - 1:55 pm

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I read your sentence as suggesting any law. But I see you're only referring to marriage.



md2
responding to a comment by trickmilla
08.4.10 - 2:16 pm

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I agree, but the victory is good because there were many in the queer community that did not want the suit to take place because they saw it as jeopardizing the chances of Prop 8 NOT passing at the next go round.

I'm really happy about this...



md2
responding to a comment by nathansnider
08.4.10 - 2:20 pm

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Yeah, the victory today should make it easier to pass an appeal, since now the burden of proof is on the prop 8 supporters/irrational bigots.

However, fingers crossed Scalia gets in a fatal/permanently debilitating car accident before this reaches the Supreme Court.



SkeletonKey
responding to a comment by md2
08.4.10 - 2:36 pm

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Visit msnbc.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy

trickmilla
08.4.10 - 9:20 pm

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CNN lays out the process




trickmilla
responding to a comment by SkeletonKey
08.4.10 - 9:38 pm

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I'm happy about the decision. Only problem is, no more bullshiting about commitment.



Tripp$_fo.Kickz
08.4.10 - 9:41 pm

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I think the Anti-Prop 8 Attornies are rad!
Its really smart that they have a hard core republican as 1/2 of the team.
Hopefully they will catch the supreme court on a day when it decides to put prinipals over right wing politrix.



trickmilla
08.4.10 - 9:44 pm

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haha nice.
you gotta be able to switch up your game in a changing enviromenment. ;-)





trickmilla
responding to a comment by Tripp$_fo.Kickz
08.4.10 - 9:45 pm

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Fingers crossed that the VICTORS OF TODAY(you know who you are) get in a fatal/permanently debilitating car accident before this reaches the Supreme Court.



OCHO
08.4.10 - 10:20 pm

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You you want to nerd out and read the whole ruling it is here:
https://ecf.cand.uscourts.gov/cand/09cv2292/files/09cv2292-ORDER.pdf





trickmilla
08.5.10 - 11:17 am

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Its is a victory for all of us.
You want us all to die in a car crash?



trickmilla
responding to a comment by OCHO
08.5.10 - 11:19 am

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My friends who are lawyers pointed out that this is an unusually thorough ruling, and from what I read, Judge Walker really lays down the factual evidence in a way that is really hard to argue against. Good on him.

Hopefully Kennedy will rule in our favor....



SkeletonKey
responding to a comment by trickmilla
08.5.10 - 11:34 am

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it actually make for a good read so far.
i need a ipad, but the company printer will have to do.



trickmilla
responding to a comment by SkeletonKey
08.5.10 - 12:15 pm

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