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"Good Samaritan" Ticket
Thread started by kryxtanicole at 03.16.09 - 7:37 pm

This morning on the train someone tried to get on while the doors were closing. Since I was standing right by the door, and have seen those doors knock someone down before, I thought it would be a good idea to help the person. I pulled the door release, and as soon as they got through the doors there was an officer right behind them yelling at me to get off the train. His yelling shocked me, and as I paused momentarily to figure out what had just happened, and maneuver around people with my bike, he just continued to yell and reach for me. Ugh.

Apparently what I did is a crime. And I got a ticket for delaying & obstructing the train, and a threat to be "injected from the system." (I asked him what this meant and he kept repeating it until finally he said I wouldn't be allowed to ride the train again. OH, he meant EJECTED. Geez)

I tried to help someone get on the train and help them not get hurt. I tried to explain the reasoning behind my actions, but he didn't care. I also tried to explain how I had no idea that it wasn't OK to do that, or the fact that it was a crime. Sure, it does say "emergency" over it, but it does not say anything to the extent of "do not pull except in case of emergency," nor are there any verbal or written warnings anywhere on the train or in the station.

I felt terrible all morning, knowing that I was being penalized for trying to do something good. I don't know if I have any grounds to fight it, but I'd like to. Does anyone here know if I have a chance of fighting this, and where I would start?

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This was a cop? WTF?



hatehills
03.16.09 - 7:40 pm

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Such lameness. Cops suck. (Except in Inglewood)
What was the cited infraction number? I can do some research.



danya
03.16.09 - 7:42 pm

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Thats bullshit... Complete bullshit.. Dont stop being a good samaritan due to this indcident krsytduhhh, those 818 cops are pretty shitty though.. im sure it couldnt of been some 213 cop thats for sure cuz there the bestest...



Debut213
03.16.09 - 7:44 pm

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640(B)(9)A P.C.

I don't know if the "A P.C." is part of it. I can't tell from how it's written.

It was a Sheriff that ticketed me.



kryxtanicole
03.16.09 - 7:45 pm

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De-Butt I love you even when you dis me, LOL.



kryxtanicole
03.16.09 - 7:46 pm

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Is it a misdemeanor? If you can't get the DA to dismiss it after you plead your case (which could work) you would have to pay the public defender $925 to defend you if you don't have your own legal council and don't plead guilty to whatever charge they reduce it to. They may reduce it to distributing the peace charge.

If it is an infraction, start with the trial by declaration first, if that does not clear you, you can get a court date, plead to the judge that you where looking at for someones safety and saved them from being injured by the train.



sexy
03.16.09 - 7:47 pm

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I love u too krysta seriously i do..



Debut213
03.16.09 - 7:49 pm

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Thank you Sexy. It's an infraction. I'll go the trial by declaration route. I know Matt's done that for a ticket, so I'll have him guide me through it. I hope it works!



kryxtanicole
03.16.09 - 7:55 pm

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the good news is that it is an infraction punishable by a fine not to exceed two hundred fifty
dollars ($250) and by community service for a total time not to
exceed 48 hours over a period not to exceed 30 days

which means you should be able to fight it by trial by declaration.

Does it say you can do that on the back of the ticket? Does it state infraction on the violation.


If I'm reading the law right 640(B)(9) states : (9) (A) Willfully blocking the free movement of another person in
a system facility or vehicle.
which doesn't sound like what you did, unless stopping the doors from being shut stops the train from operating which blocks the free movement of another person. Sound like the deputy might have written you up for the wrong violation???




sexy
03.16.09 - 7:57 pm

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sorry wrote that before I saw your last posting.



sexy
03.16.09 - 7:58 pm

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wtf




sexy
03.16.09 - 7:59 pm

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Just stick to your story and see if maybe you could get a hold of the person you were assisting.

It may be a stretch, but this could be a way of having it worked down.

Either way, I'm not saying what you did was wrong, but the pulling of those Emergency-Levers tends to rile up the psyche of any personnel related to train operations.

Somewhat like the fire-alarms you see in certain places.



bentstrider
03.16.09 - 8:00 pm

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this is how that is suppose to be written


the good news is that it is an infraction punishable by a fine not to exceed two hundred fifty
dollars ($250) and by community service for a total time not to
exceed 48 hours over a period not to exceed 30 days


which means you should be able to fight it by trial by declaration.

Does it say you can do that on the back of the ticket? Does it state infraction on the violation.


If I'm reading the law right 640(B)(9) states : (9) (A) Willfully blocking the free movement of another person in
a system facility or vehicle.
which doesn't sound like what you did, unless stopping the doors from being shut stops the train from operating which blocks the free movement of another person. Sound like the deputy might have written you up for the wrong violation???



sexy
03.16.09 - 8:00 pm

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Well, pulling the release does stop the train from moving, but that doesn't block any other person, the amount of time I potentially held up the train was a matter of maybe 5 seconds, oh, I wasn't willfully trying to obstruct anything.

But I just re-read the ticket, and the back. It's marked as "Non-Traffic" so I don't think I can do a trial by declaration because on the back, by "Trial by declaration" it says following "(traffic cases). UGH.



kryxtanicole
03.16.09 - 8:08 pm

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i've seen so many people pull those levers not to let people on, but to get off. that's pretty fucked up, but i don't know if you can argue it as they are designated for emergency use only.



coldcut
03.16.09 - 8:11 pm

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Here's the full text of the law:
640. (a) Any of the acts described in subdivision (b) is an
infraction punishable by a fine not to exceed two hundred fifty
dollars ($250) and by community service for a total time not to
exceed 48 hours over a period not to exceed 30 days, during a time
other than during his or her hours of school attendance or
employment, when committed on or in any of the following:
(1) A facility or vehicle of a public transportation system as
defined by Section 99211 of the Public Utilities Code.
....
(b) ....(9) (A) Willfully blocking the free movement of another person in a system facility or vehicle.
(B) This paragraph (9) shall not be interpreted to affect any
lawful activities permitted or first amendment rights protected under
the laws of this state or applicable federal law, including, but not
limited to, laws related to collective bargaining, labor relations,
or labor disputes.

Source: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=00001-01000&file=639-653.2

I'd say the cop definitely wrote you up for the wrong ticket. The injected/ejected thing could actually work very much in your favor a supporting evidence of the cop's vast mental prowess.



danya
03.16.09 - 8:12 pm

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I had never been sure about non traffic infractions. I have been reading that it is only for traffic citations (vehicle code). My first thought when the law wrote community service is part of the sentence was nah.
You will do well in court winning this. First get a proper explination of the law from the public defender or district attorney. You have to have a understanding of what they are charging you with before they can charge you.

If the ticket isn't written wrong (although it looks like it is)
Try to get the DA to drop it, (which my guess is what is going to happen). If not then use the defense that a person was going to be injured, if you didn't pull the lever.

Or was the deputy in a place to where they could actually clearly see you pull the lever? If not, then it should be thrown out right then and there.



sexy
03.16.09 - 8:29 pm

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Christa,

You couldn't have put your foot in front of the door or the bike to stop the door? If you did that, you wouldn't have gotten a ticket. I've been on the train a couple of times and someone pulled the lever. It's a pain in the ass too. The train stops and a depatcher has to come out to inspect the train and reset the lever. I just end up getting off the train and riding. One time this gay couple was having a fight and one of them (fem one) got mad at the other, and pulled the lever as they were getting off. Pissed the fuck out of me cause I knew at that point I had a 15 mile ride into LA. It is, like Adam said, about like pulling the fire alarm. I honestly don't think the judge is going to buy the argument that someone's life was in danger. You could try, I just don't think it's going to fly.

I did save this one dude from pulling it. The idiot missed his stop and he was going to pull the lever! I told him the train will stop for a long time and decided against doing. You would think the fool would be getting off at the next stop, but he went to the end of the line. Go figure!

Anyways it's not like these guys written their first violation regarding this infraction, you know, I'm sure they've had some practice at this. Looks to me they wrote it correctly. That doesn't mean there maybe a better code to enforce with this violation, just means it doesn't look wrong.

From now on, spread the word to leave those f'ing levers alone!

Good luck.



User1
03.16.09 - 8:46 pm

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WELL AINT DAT SOME BOOOOOL SHIIIIIIIIT!!!



imachynna
03.16.09 - 8:53 pm

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Well, in the end let us just look forward to your train/bus-riding choice not becoming permanently revoked.

Hopefully, the higher-ups will see this as "an honest mistake" and take the fine, or community service in lieu of any serious punishment.




bentstrider
03.16.09 - 9:41 pm

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Dear Allan,

Thanks for chastising me. I figured someone would. I don't know what you're talking about with having a dispatcher come out, I've never ever seen that. And I ride the train daily. Like I said before, it was a matter of maybe 5 seconds of delay.

Considering what the law actually consists of, I'm surprised this hasn't been used against us on rides. Go figure.

I wish I could do trial by declaration, but it seems to not be possible. How do I get in touch with a public defender or some sort of formal legal counsel?



kryxtanicole
03.16.09 - 10:12 pm

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if you need to have a public defender (they will come to you when you appear at your court date) they do have a phone numbers, I don't know how well they will respond to your call, or pre court appearance date . All you can do is try. Maybe La Dude or any other law students will respond.

As for those open the door levers. I have pulled then down to keep the door open and then pushed it back into place and the door would close up. Don't worry about USER1, he is perfect.

I think at worse you will come out of this will a hundred dollar fine. Most likely I think the DA will drop the charge. Just show up to the court date. Don't let it get you down. You did the right thing!



sexy
03.16.09 - 10:47 pm

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That's because User1 is thinking of the other lever, the emergency brake, not the little dongle above the door that keeps it from closing.



FuzzBeast
03.17.09 - 12:06 am

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It was potentially an emergency anyway. You did what you that was right. Imagine if the guy you helped had gotten knocked down onto the tracks or something? Like seriously, what were you supposed to do? Watch this guy get hurt? That happens too often anyway.

I prevented a fight in a station once by running to get help. No one else did anything even though we were all watching this thing escalate. Seriously now!

Email me...happy [dot] land [dot] 2007 @ gmail [ dot ] com...my dad is a lawyer and a bike rider, maybe he can help you out.



HappyLand
03.17.09 - 11:30 am

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HappyLand ask your Dad to interpret what 640(B)(9)A P.C. is.
Is it what she was written up for?

If your Dad is a criminal defense attorney ask him what kind of plea deal would be offered on a charge such as this. Will they most likely demand that she fulfills the community service aspect of the sentence stated in the law?

I think we would all like to know.



sexy
03.17.09 - 11:36 am

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No, User1 is thinking of the T-handle above the exit door of the trains on the Metro lines. This stops the trains and opens the door. It's labeled "Emergency" for that purpose, in an emergency you pull it. Not a perceived possibly could happen cause I've seen something like this happen before emergency, but a real life old lady got her clothes caught in the door and is being dragged down the platform emergency.

When I was on the Blue Line and there was that gay lover's quarrel, it was annouced that a dispacher had to come and inspect the train and reset the handle or reset something. This dispatcher I guess drives around, or something. Anyways even the cops were called on this. At that point I figured it was best to bail.

Next time try the foot in the way of the door to stop the door. Everyone will be alot happier you did that than pull the handle.

And Dave, I can't have an opinion around here? Why is mine considered any different?

And Fuzz, where's this emergency brake you're talking about?



User1
03.17.09 - 11:39 am

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Usually to the left or right of the door, under glass, or some sort of cover. right by the safety instructions, and operator intercom.

I've seen the dongle thing pulled many times in stations (we've even done this when we had a ton of bikes on the train and had to get them off but had an impatient operator) and never heard of it needing to have an investigator come, unless maybe that's because the train was already moving when that incident happened, I don't know. But when the train is stopped all it does is keep the doors from closing, the sheriffs and operators use this all the time when they do the train walkthroughs at each end of the line.



FuzzBeast
03.17.09 - 11:50 am

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For certain reeeasons I won't reveal exactly what my dad does.... But! I will ask and return with knowledge!



HappyLand
03.17.09 - 11:54 am

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thats what you should have told the COPS " OH YOU WANT SOME OF THIS????"



smashen247
03.17.09 - 11:56 am

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IM SORRY THAT HAPPEN BUT NO REASON TO STOP BEING GOOD IM SURE YOU A GREAT PERSON AND DONT SWEAT IT JUST TELL THE JUDGE WHAT HAPPEN AN HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE ALL GOOD THE TRUTH REALLY DOES COUNT SO DONT FEEL BAD SO PUT ON THAT HAPPY FACE OHHHHHH PUT ON THAT HAPPY FACE!!!!!



smashen247
03.17.09 - 12:00 pm

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Fuzz -
I've seen the dongle thing pulled many times in stations (we've even done this when we had a ton of bikes on the train and had to get them off but had an impatient operator)


Me -
So why can't you just hold the door open and avoid this T-handle? Seems like you're just inviting trouble.



User1
03.17.09 - 12:01 pm

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I just hope this doesn't discourage good samaritans in the future. I was once running with my bike to catch the last red line from downtown after a long ass day in the saddle, I so did not want to ride to Burbank, and a guy saw me and held the door, there were only like 2 or 3 people on the closest car so I was really lucky.

I hold the door for people running all the time, and I'll continue to do so. The worst I've seen is the train driver person got on the loudspeaker and started yelling at someone to let go of the door, but it looked like this dude was holding it for his buddy who was chatting up some girl on the other side of the platform.



toweliesbong
03.17.09 - 12:16 pm

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Cops suck. (Except in Inglewood)

you're right, they're so cool in inglewood..... so cool that we now have highway patrol all over the place because the inglewood p.d cant even do their own job.....



theladiesman
03.17.09 - 12:28 pm

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oh yeah, those cops are great in Ingelwood, especially if your drinking in public or not armed.
but that the LA TIMES and the FEDS for ya

to hold the door with your foot doesn't necessary hold the doors open it just jerks them back and forth. In a way that I think could cause possible mechanical problems with the door. Pulling the lever and holding the door open keeps the doors open instead of trying to constantly shut on you when you are letting people in. This by passes the operators ability to operate the door remotely.


And Dave, I can't have an opinion around here? Why is mine considered any different?

First of all why can't you just be respectful and not call me Dave when on many times I have asked you not to.
No, you can't have an opinion when you know it all. Its not a opinion at that point, it's a fact.



sexy
03.17.09 - 1:20 pm

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and your religious hang ups are yours not mine. My parents where Catholic and they did name my after David, King of the Jews.

If you don't like David you can call me Sexy or Sexy Dave if you insist on using Dave. Just not Dave, I don't like it, its not my name but I will accept that stranger will use a shortened version of my name along with my sign in name.

Who is Dave in this picture and on this site? It is not I, (nor "i") it is the guy to my right with the yellow sleeves and the red collar. It is actually Dave on this site. Show Dave and myself a little respect and don't refer to me as him or vice versa.



sexy
03.17.09 - 1:30 pm

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Hey Look at Dave hes fucking sexy!





stillline
03.17.09 - 1:43 pm

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ey kiddo 1st & foremost u gotta remember that laws have multiple elements & the state has 2 prove all the elements to convict u. iow they have 2 establish not only that u blocked a person in a system vehicle but that u did so willingly. the wording there is unambiguous.

create a reasonable doubt that ur will was 2 block the movement of any person in the vehicle. attack this on 2 fronts:

1) u didn't kno or coulldnt have been reasonably expected 2 kno that pulling the lever stopped the train. u have seen deputies use the lever be4 & u thought it just stopped the doorz from closing rite? rite?

2) whether or not 1) is the case, ur intent was not 2 stop any person in a vehicle but 2 keep the doors of that vehicle from closing on sum1. it is not necessary to go so far as 2 claim that u were tryin 2 save sum1s life or any of that booshit, just that the thought in ur mind at that moment was 2 prevent sum1 from being annoyed inconvenienced or injured it dont matter which. *ur intent was 2 stop a door, not a person in a vehicle*

regardless of whether the vehicle was stopped u did not willingly stop a vehicle. thats ur angle.



PC
03.17.09 - 4:00 pm

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also i aint no conspiracy theorist but aint it inneresting that there just happened 2 be a deputy rite behind the latecomer, ready 2 give u a ticket. could this have been sum kind of booshit sting operation? maybe wanna do some diggin on that 1 ey. cuz if so, the judge may not look kindly on an operation that basicly preys on a persons civilized impulse 2 help a stranger, by inducing that person 2 make a split second decision 2 act in a such a way as 2 break a law that she likely does not kno about.



PC
03.17.09 - 4:05 pm

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fuckin A dood i ain't readin yo shit any mo!

I want the old school pre-new school old school PC back.



toweliesbong
03.17.09 - 4:38 pm

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wats it worth 2 u



PC
03.17.09 - 4:41 pm

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PC = Punk Chump



Joe Borfo
03.17.09 - 4:42 pm

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I'm sorry to hear this Krista, I hope you clear this out.





Alfredo
03.17.09 - 4:48 pm

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btw, Borfo is My Father.



Alfredo
03.17.09 - 4:48 pm

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I agree, I miss the days when PC was out to prove he could type intelligently.

Also, I was commenting on an incident in Inglewood from last Robotz, no need to get your panties bunched up.



danya
03.17.09 - 4:53 pm

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i can't imagine that any judge will tell you that what you did was an offense worth ticketing, and they will most likely throw it out and look sideways at the sheriff. if you do end up going to a jury trial, (or if it's possible during your trial by declaration) subpoena a copy of the train's recording. they should have a copy at MTA.

i doubt it will be necessary, but it can't hurt. you can then post it on youtube, so you can at least say you gained something from the experience!



tortuga_veloce
03.17.09 - 5:07 pm

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J-B Weld will fix it right up.



Joe Borfo
03.17.09 - 5:21 pm

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Dave -
to hold the door with your foot doesn't necessary hold the doors open it just jerks them back and forth. In a way that I think could cause possible mechanical problems with the door. Pulling the lever and holding the door open keeps the doors open instead of trying to constantly shut on you when you are letting people in. This by passes the operators ability to operate the door remotely.


Me -
The door is designed to stop if there's something in it's way. That something could be a body, wheelchair, bicycle, foot, etc, etc, you aren't going to cause a mechanical failure in the door. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Pulling the lever invites scorn from your fellow passengers. They may even think a beat down is in order. You ready for that????? And yes, you by pass the operator's ability to operate the door remotely by putting your foot in the way of the door.

Dave -
No, you can't have an opinion when you know it all. Its not a opinion at that point, it's a fact.

Me -
Baaahhhhhaaaahahhhaaaa... dude this is going on my profile along with a reference to it. That's right mother fucker!!! What I say is fact!!! Your name is Dave!!!! It's a FACT! All the rest of what you said is being ignored cause, it's just gibberish.

Thanks for the props dude, I mean Dave.




User1
03.17.09 - 7:45 pm

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profile updated!

From now on what I say is FACT. Dave will back me up on this too.



User1
03.17.09 - 7:58 pm

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Dude, can you show me how to skid?

I wana impress da ladeee!!!



User1
03.17.09 - 7:59 pm

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yup, tiz tru Allen nos it allz



sexy
03.17.09 - 8:09 pm

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Just check his profile when in doubt. And with this logic he is using someone as a reference in which Mary say that what the person who says that Mary "knows it all" speaks only gibberish and doesn't even know his own name.

CONFUSED? with that logic you should be.

If you aren't reading this, I don't blame you.



sexy
03.17.09 - 8:12 pm

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Okay so...my dad couldn't answer for certain reasons, but *someone very knowledgeable of the law* (Wink!) gave me an answer....

(It's sort of long, but worth the read, and got some good advice for everyone)

>>>

If he was really cited for a violation of P.C. Sec 640(b)(9) then the officer has to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the passenger willfully impeded the move of another passenger. Under the facts listed on the post, the passenger (bike rider) did not impede the movement of other passengers.

All the biker rider did, if all the facts are true, is to assist in an emergency.

He really needs to take this case to trial. The bike rider must argue to the court that he was acting under the reasonable belief that there was an emergency (the other rider could have been hurt, or worse). The only option immediately available to the bike rider was to pull the emergency lever. He can argue to the court that he did not know exactly what the lever did, just that there was an EMERGENCY and he took reasonable steps/action to prevent injury to the passenger.

The transit cops are not the best or the brightest. I think that they are probably one small step ahead of mall cops. The transit cop cited the bike rider under the wrong section and the ticket should be dismissed.

There is another reason why he should take it to court. The transit cop may never show up and then the ticket will be dismissed. In case the transit cop does not show up to court AND the transit authority asks for a continuance (postponement or re-scheduling) of the trial the bike rider should refuse to agree to a continuance and ask for his trial right there and then. Without the transit cop in court, there is no case.

In any event, the bike rider should be reasonable, calm, collected. He should explain to the court why he believed there was an emergency and why he took the action that he did. He should dress in a suit, or at the very least a coat and tie and act/behave very respectful to the court.

This situation illustrates the fact that you should never argue with a transit cop (or any cop really). It is not that they are right, it is simply that once they commit to writing the ticket there is precious little, if any, to talk them out of writing the ticket. Arguing will never do it, at least not in 95% of the cases.

Besides, when you argue with them, besides doing no good, just makes them remember you more. If you argue, they will expect that you will fight the ticket, so they make written (or mental) notes to help them prepare them for trial. Also, arguing can escalate the situation and turn a bad situation into a real ugly one.





HappyLand
03.17.09 - 9:23 pm

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@Puck
are you the real world puck

Back in town ?



Dedicated818
03.17.09 - 10:39 pm

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Thanks HappyLand



sexy
03.17.09 - 11:40 pm

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I was on the Blue Line and the Green Line yesterday. The T-handle is labeled "Emergency Release", and there's instructions that spell out steps to take in an emergency in both English and Spanish by the door. Clearly this is meant for emergency use only. First step on this instruction list was to listen to the conductor for instructions. Third step was a diagram showing the T-handle release.

One of the questions the judge will ask you, is "what was the emergency?" Be ready for a good answer to that Christa. I don't really think holding the door open for someone is going to cut it.

Fuzz, I couldn't find this emergency brake you are referring to above. What line were you referring to?



User1
03.18.09 - 10:56 am

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Miss lovely lady who got the ticket.

What train did this happen on?

Don't worry about people that give you a hard time. Don't let the angry white man get you down. Most of us support you and would be appreciative if you did such an act for one of us.

You will be fine, my money say this will be a DA reject. Just show up for the ticket and fight it if you have to.





sexy
03.18.09 - 2:13 pm

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GAWD Al, you can't let this one go, can you?

The answer is incredibly simple. We have DIFFERENT TRAIN SYSTEMS in LA.

The Blue and green lines, being 'el' trains and running along surface streets at points, have one emergency door system, ie the infamous 't-handle' that, perhaps, requires some sort of special authority to reset.

The red line has both a ball handle above the door that pops in and out, and simply keeps the doors open (which i have seen used by transit users and employees alike hundreds of times without ANY incident beyond popping it back up to let the door close), and a smash-able emergency stop button next to the door.

The gold line has yet another system, whereby the door can be kept open to some degree with a green-LED-ringed button almost like an elevator, and a more-difficult-to-actuate real emergency stop handle elsewhere.

How wonderful, you can all be right!



Lance K
03.18.09 - 3:40 pm

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It was on the Redline train,to answer your question Sexy. Thanks Happyland, I'm gonna email you. User1, get off the internet.
Oh, and Hi Lance! : )



kryxtanicole
03.18.09 - 6:04 pm

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LOL no one can take any criticism any more. It's be my friend or shut up.

Sad. :-(

Why even post up if we can't voice our opinions? Or you just wanted a hung and consolitory pat on the back Christa?

OK OK, that officer was mean smelly pig that hates people helping other people.

How's that?



User1
03.19.09 - 12:45 am

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as Carole King would sing.................

It's too late USER1 it's just too late.





sexy
03.19.09 - 1:10 am

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allan is a big smelly pig who dont kno the difference between lite rail & a fucken subway (hint: the latter aint the place where u get the $5 footlongs)





PC
03.19.09 - 3:23 am

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verily thou art the fucken king of retards



PC
03.19.09 - 3:24 am

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int the place where u get the $5 footlongs

hahhaha



sexy
03.19.09 - 9:10 am

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Pee, I got this theory that Dave will laugh at anything as long as it's insulting me. Let's test it out. I'll make up something that sounds real stupid and you post it as a insult to me.

BTW, you unwittingly bring up a really good point. Is the Blue Line a lite rail line or a subway? BTW2, I haven't heard of Metro system being called "lite rail" around LA, even though it should. Gives you an idea how little the system is on peoples minds. In Sacramento it's widely referred to "the lite rail".

BTW3, Dave now has my back, so watch it bub. He will tell you what I say is fact. That's right! Ask him.



User1
03.19.09 - 12:29 pm

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Sure thing, kryxtanicole

: )



HappyLand
03.19.09 - 1:14 pm

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Dave doesn't seem very impressed



sexy
03.19.09 - 1:21 pm

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Just got my letter in the mail from the court. The damage is $163. Surprisingly not outrageous--But they ain't gettin' it. I'm going to court.



kryxtanicole
04.23.09 - 6:19 pm

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Where's Dave anyway?



Joe Borfo
04.23.09 - 7:15 pm

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GOOD SAM. ACTS

Krysta,
I once saw a 10 yr old boy walking down the freeway up in Valencia with no ramp in sit. He was on the hard shoulder and there was no way to get on or off the freeway!! It's a ling story but in short I helped the kid off the freeway got a phone number from him of a relative and called, leaving a message. Before I did this I tried calling the police but couldn't get an answer, being literally on hold for 20 mins!!
While driving the kid to his father , the police called and said there was a helicopter looking for me, you guessed it SHERIFF DEPT.
I was practically treated like a criminal for child abduction but finally the kid got home.
I complained to the DEPT but came to the realisation that The LA Sheriff's Dept are Arseholes!!!! Don't give me any hindsight comments please - the story as I said is longer.



Limeyfly
04.24.09 - 7:25 am

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Doesn't it piss you off that life is so unfair?





alicestrong
04.24.09 - 8:20 am

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So I thought I was gonna go to court and handle this tomorrow. Upon referencing my papers it seems I actually have to go pay it, plead not guilty, AND THEN request a trial. The fine is $163. I plan to get all my dollars back on this one - Whenever I eventually go to trial, play nice, etc., etc.

I doubt I'd be getting a trial tomorrow...but I don't know...unless I go pay it after 1...but then I'd just have to go back again...I'm prepared either way. I wanna get this over with. I want to win on this one because I was trying to do a good thing in a city where you aren't supposed to look at your neighbor funny, or else the consequences are your own fault. Oh Los Angeles, what a love-hate relationship we have!



kryxtanicole
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07.17.09 - 1:23 am

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Ticket DISMISSED! The judge says to me "No good deed goes unpunished."



kryxtanicole
07.24.09 - 2:49 pm

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Well Done!



Limeyfly
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07.24.09 - 2:54 pm

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*high five*



mattspeed
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07.24.09 - 2:54 pm

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yeah!



666
07.24.09 - 3:04 pm

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sexy
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07.24.09 - 4:26 pm

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SSSSWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTT!



X-Large
responding to a comment by kryxtanicole
07.24.09 - 4:38 pm

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WOW that's freaking awesome!!!



User1
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07.25.09 - 12:30 pm

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