Zeitgeist: Addendum
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batgirlkarla at 10.9.08 - 1:56 pm
MUST WATCH:
This was just posted on the web 10/2/08.
If you guys are wondering why we're in the position we're in TODAY (massive debt, indentured slavery), watch this very informative video.
It attempts to locate the root causes of this pervasive social corruption, while offering a solution(!).
This solution is not based not on politics, morality, laws, or any other “establishment” notions of human affairs, but rather on a modern, non-superstitous based understanding of what we are and how we align with nature, to which we are a part. The work advocates a new social system which is updated to present day knowledge, highly influencedby the life long work of
Jacque Fresco and
The Venus Project…
Zeitgeist: Addendum, by Peter Joseph 2008
Enjoy.
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OMG I was gonna post this up...but you beat me 2 it. Yeah this documentary is a must watch. But Zeitgeist should be watched first and then Addendum. F**k the New World Order. Another movie I recommend watching would be Esoteric Agenda, America:Freedom to Fascism and Loose Change.
The Venus Project.....I think about Nikola Tesla and free energy
libra77710.9.08 - 2:11 pm
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saw the first one, gonna start this one now.
ijunes10.9.08 - 2:19 pm
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Happy Birthday Joe
sexy10.9.08 - 2:24 pm
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Yeah, I've seen the first Zeitgeist, this is the second, but can be watched without watching the first one. But they are both a must watch. Seeing how the other one came out last year or so, I'm sure not too many people know this new one just came out. It is so good. You have to watch this. I'm all for the Venus Project.
batgirlkarla10.9.08 - 2:37 pm
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The Venus Project and free energy is a plus and I'm also all 4 it.
Look what J.P Morgan did to Telsa and his dream..
Tesla also had a deep desire to provide wireless electricity across the globe. First, there was the patent infringement issue, which made millionaires of others, particularly the Marconi Company. But Tesla maintained a single-minded focus on developing global wireless communications and energy systems. Working in Colorado Springs in 1899, Tesla developed a transmitter to perfect a method by which transmitted energy could be channeled through natural media.In Colorado Springs, Colorado, Tesla built a laboratory to develop this. The Colorado Springs lab contained the largest Tesla Coil ever built. Called the Magnifying Transmitter, it was capable of generating some 300,000 watts of power, and could produce a bolt of lightning over 130 feet long. According to local accounts, Tesla actually managed to successfully transmit about 30 to 50 thousand watts of power, without wires, using the Transmitter. There are detailed accounts of these feats, below. Two years later ,1901, working on Long Island at Wardenclyffe, he set to work on his ultimate goal: construction of a "world telegraphy center" that was to have a lab, a wireless transmitter and production facilities for manufacturing oscillators and vacuum tubes. Constructed on the "model city's" 1,800 acres would be homes, stores and buildings to accommodate 2,500 workers... at least, that was the dream. By that year's end, however, Marconi had usurped the inventor by transmitting an overseas signal. That left Tesla at the mercy of his financier, J.P. Morgan, who literally pulled the plug on his vision. Morgan, at the time the prime force behind General Electric Co., may have been unnerved by Tesla's claims that the technology could transmit "unlimited power" by wireless means. The word "free" did not translate well to Morgan. Again, the money flow came to a halt.
Just cause J.P Morgan would not make profit...asshole
libra77710.9.08 - 3:22 pm
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america hates socialism because it limits the size of the feeding spoon for those greedy coporate bastards.
down with capital goods.
back to tribes trading and bartering yeeeaahh
ijunes10.9.08 - 3:25 pm
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back to tribes trading and bartering yeeeaahh
ijunes
10.9.08 - 6:25 pm
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That's how they did it back in the day!! and we still do it! Don't fix what isn't broken!!
batgirlkarla10.9.08 - 3:38 pm
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Also, I like how the film offers options to boycott the system and number 5 is to CREATE CRITICAL MASS! jump to 1 hour and 55 mins to hear it.
batgirlkarla10.9.08 - 4:13 pm
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LOL ok, the film has a flub. It's actually 6 but the number next to it is 5... but it's actually 6!! haha.. that was funny.
batgirlkarla10.9.08 - 4:14 pm
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tesla was an amazing person. a genius that time has since forgotten, save for those lucky few who don't depend on the powers that be to force feed them all their knowledge.
great film.
Jazzy Phat Nastee10.9.08 - 5:43 pm
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blame all our problems on the jews who run the banking systems, right?
what would ian stuart do?
ruinedbyidiots10.9.08 - 5:50 pm
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They're not all jews, but they are all greedy...
This current 'financial crisis' reminds me a lot of what i've heard about the savings and loan fiasco in the early 20th century...basically just a scheme for the powers that be to buy up their competitors on the cheap.
Lance K10.9.08 - 7:02 pm
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It's time we work on making a difference...in the mean time we unite and we ride!!!
Because "weRall in this2gether"
www.werallinthis2gether.org
lebiram1310.10.08 - 7:59 am
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in addition to the comments above
Check out events OCT. 11, 2008....bring the youth, that is a great place to start with making a difference.
lebiram1310.10.08 - 8:04 am
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i woke up this morning and the sky started falling.
iceland, japan, uk, america, brazil, mexico, chile
every single index is down.
this is the end of the world. or at least capitalism.
damn i wonder if they take day labor for bike parts.
ijunes10.10.08 - 9:15 am
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ZOMG ALIENZ DID 911
Purp10.10.08 - 3:48 pm
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forget the dow, the goonch is what you should fear.
fox news reports
A fearsome fish has started killing people after feeding on human corpses, scientists fear.
They reckon that a huge type of catfish, called a goonch, may have developed a taste for flesh in an Indian river where bodies are dumped after funerals.
Locals have believed for years that a mysterious monster lurks in the water. But they think it has moved on from scavenging to snatching unwary bathers who venture into the Great Kali, which flows along the India-Nepal border.
The extraordinary creature has been investigated by biologist Jeremy Wade for a TV documentary to be shown in Britain.
“The locals have told me of a theory that this monster has grown extra large on a diet of partially burnt corpses,” Wade said. “It has perhaps got this taste for flesh by feasting on remains of funeral pyres. There will be a few freak individuals that grow bigger than the other ones and if you throw in extra food, they will grow even bigger.”
Wade discounted theories that crocodiles could be responsible for the carnage before turning his attention to goonches — among the world’s biggest freshwater fish.
He caught one which tipped the scales at 161 lbs and was nearly 6 feet long — a world record weight and far bigger than any landed before.
“If that got hold of you, there’d be no getting away,” he said.
ruinedbyidiots10.10.08 - 3:54 pm
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why is socialism feared in America? except the worst kinds. we don't have universal health care, but we can bail out private debt?
spiraldemon10.10.08 - 4:01 pm
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we spend most of our money on teaching kids math and science because we still think we are in the cold war, and the commies are the enemy.
WOLVERINES!
ruinedbyidiots10.10.08 - 4:05 pm
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Tyler, You have always been like a son to me (ala' Patrick Swayze to my Harry Dean Stanton). Since the bankers and the New World Order has me caught in a financial, constitutional, and emotional prison that will most likely kill me. I have one final request of you...................................................
AVENGE ME! AVENGE ME!
sexy10.11.08 - 5:45 am
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Zeitgeist is just loaded conspiracy theories with eerie music and shitty ass editing. I'm all for open discussion and knowledge about politics and political economics, open yourself up to the world around you. But if you ever use Zeitgeist as a source of credibility and start believing this shit; then you most definitely deserve 5 across the face.
Read "Monetary Politics: The Federal Reserve and the Politics of Monetary Policy" by Woolley.
That'll knock you on you arse.
"Don't believe everything that you breathe."
Alexcantsee10.11.08 - 6:07 am
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Yeah Alex, that was my first reaction when I saw the movie, bunch of conspiracies. So, I decided to do some research and try to debunk whatever it said. Disturbed on what I found out. I always tell people to conduct their own research...connect the dots. Zeitgeist just opens a can of worms bud. I'll discuss about anything you like. I recommend you read William Coppper's "Behold a Pale Horse ". Book came out around the early 90's. One thing I wanted to know right away was about the FED.....
Privately-owned banks own the stock of the FED. This was explained in more detail in the case of Lewis v. United States, Federal Reporter, 2nd Series, Vol. 680, Pages 1239, 1241 (1982), where the court said: "Each Federal Reserve Bank is a separate corporation owned by commercial banks in its region. The stock-holding commercial banks elect two thirds of each Bank's nine member board of directors".
libra77710.11.08 - 12:35 pm
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Asparagus... I'm actually 50% blind, although, my optical disability does not inhibit me to actually "see" and understand the world around me.
^^^Libra, I'll definitely check that book out.
Alexcantsee10.11.08 - 5:09 pm
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Here you go Alex and anyone that would like to read Behold a Pale Horse..PDF
http://federaljack.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=17
libra77710.11.08 - 5:38 pm
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good ole william cooper. the dude had no legs and was not a threat by any means, and the cia still had him assassinated.
ruinedbyidiots10.11.08 - 5:50 pm
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Anyone who thinks Zeitgeist is a collection of conspiracy theories hasn't done their own followup research. Zeitgeist and this addendum actually present information that is largely available to anyone. In fact, if you go to their website they have footnotes for every single statistic presented in both films.
So, in short:
While films like Loose Change and Project Blue Beam are firmly labelled conspiracy, Zeitgeist is pretty much telling it the way it is.
YMMV.
bananaphone10.12.08 - 12:56 pm
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yes, it is true. they do have footnotes and it is factual. there is nothing in zeitgeist that denotes conspiracy.
i've also read Behold a Pale Horse.
But thanks for the link now i can send it to people. <33
batgirlkarla10.12.08 - 2:16 pm
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These Zeitgeist films are terribly droning. These films should, AT THE VERY LEAST, motivate you to become more aware of our social-economic infrastructure(s), but these films offer ridiculous solutions to problems of complex institutions.
"Boycott the Military"?! Are you fucking serious Zeitgeist? I'm not even gonna get into it, that is such a retarded suggestion.
This is just like the bullshit this administration has fed us only on the other side of the spectrum of asinine shit you've ever heard in your life.
Alexcantsee10.12.08 - 3:42 pm
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We're all gonna die anyway. Who cares about anything.
Hahahahahhahahhhahahahahahahah
imachynna10.12.08 - 3:51 pm
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alex, stop being angry.
we can still ride bikes together and form a critical mass... or do you consider that asinine too? relax and watch something else.
batgirlkarla10.12.08 - 3:56 pm
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""Boycott the Military"?! Are you fucking serious Zeitgeist? I'm not even gonna get into it, that is such a retarded suggestion."
Well, why are we in Iraq? Did Sadam have anything to do with 9/11? Did he have weapons of mass destruction? Why are we spending more money on the military? Martial law is here or it is coming soon......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0pTizzR7hE @ 1:25
libra77710.12.08 - 4:22 pm
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Iraq is a stupid war, I'm not disagreeing with that. But a military is important.
Libra, if Martial Law were ever implemented on a national level in our lifetime I would allow you to fart on my dinner. No joke. I'm serious.
Alexcantsee10.13.08 - 2:00 am
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lol you're funny!!!! I'll let u do that and I'll watch you eat dinner after ;)
libra77710.13.08 - 11:49 am
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Some interesting stuff.
It's kind of ironic how it ends up being about some quazi-religious conversion to the Zeitgeist philosophy.
Whole economic systems or organizing philosophies are not overturned bloodlessly overnight.
The idea of boycotting every aspect of society that is considered endemic to this problem certainly will not change anything in the near term. The type of global economic, social, and philosophical conversion that they are talking about is going to take several generations.
For the most part, revolutions that happen in a short period of time tend to be very bloody, very divisive, and typically don't last more than a generation before shifting greatly from their original precepts or outright crumbling.
The technologies and philosophies we have developed to date have been a product of the tensions of capitalism, socialism, communism, fascism and social democracy. Even the ideas of zeitgeist and the venus project.
As technology advances and information technology becomes more and more democratized these ideas will live and die on their own merits. Its not going to come by way of a stockbroker falling on his knees and having a zeitgeist conversion ... but rather a sustained effort over years of people constantly dealing with the changing faces of society, technology, religion, and philosophy.
We are in a big moment of change in human history ... and as Naomi Klein suggests with coming crises everybody (not just the right-wing corpritocracy) is going to try insert their brand of philosophy to try and "solve' all of our problems and favor their own interests.
In that regard I find it somewhat amusing even Zeitgeist attempts to use the looming crisis to try and insert their philosophy on a people that are scared and confused.
Whatever you do ... don't forget to vote.
Even if you are hoping and praying that shit will get so bad that a revolution will be inevitable, in that case by all means i highly recommend voting for the clusterfuck campaign of John McCain ... and while you are at it be sure to vote for every piece of legislation that sees to take away rights and freedoms, so people will be suitably pissed off for a revolution.
50%+ of the electorate have been "boycotting" elections for years ... and we see where that has gotten us.
trickmilla10.13.08 - 1:11 pm
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one day, when i grow up i'll actually have a belief system.
i will, some day, not only pretend to care, but i will do something about it.
one day, one day.
oh wait, the singularity looms. maybe in the next life.
SawTomorrow10.13.08 - 1:20 pm
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Joe Borfo10.13.08 - 1:36 pm
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everybody and their mom deserves to watch this
SnapperS10.14.08 - 2:53 am
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new world order
illuminati
skull and bones
google that shit.
conspiracies? definitly!
reality? it's a matter or perspective.
All Hail Discordia!
the reverend dak10.14.08 - 7:49 pm
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I will be the first to admit that the zeitgeist agenda is a bit overwrought and sometimes lacking in cogency...but to dismiss it as conspiracy theories is pretty ignorant.
I suppose you think peak oil is an environmentalist conspiracy, too.
Lance K10.14.08 - 8:19 pm
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