Thread started by shotgunBOOMBOOM at 02.9.10 - 11:17 pm

can you believe this shit.

software glitch??

I'm not sure how I feel about this.

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Ya, I thought those things were Taliban field tested.



Dedicated818
02.9.10 - 11:26 pm

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its all sabotage from the U.S automakers to get back in the game ...



OsnapsonJC
02.10.10 - 8:10 am

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You car is gonna get haxorz with its tcp/ip cookies



mattspeed
02.10.10 - 8:55 am

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Take that you Prius hippies.



goosegoose
02.10.10 - 9:00 am

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No shit, prius drivers are the biggest ASSHOLES on the road.

Oh what a feeling!




rev106
responding to a comment by goosegoose
02.10.10 - 9:36 am

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IT WOULDNT BE A BIG DEAL IF IT WERE A GENERAL MOTORS RECALL.



tortuga_veloce
02.10.10 - 10:46 am

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They don't make 'em like they used to.



shotgunBOOMBOOM
02.10.10 - 10:49 am

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shotgunBOOMBOOM
02.10.10 - 10:50 am

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The reason is that the pedals and engine where so cheaply made by a new company producing parts from them for this" this new " technology to make em more fuel efficient in witch they have to make the cars lighter so the pedals and tranny would start chipping and breaking causing the whole system to malfunction or lock up causing crashes or even some catching on fire some even died oh yea brake pads are organic so when they get wet they slide so they don't brake properly alsowhen they get too hot they chip or melt and Toyota send out a letter to all dealers to stop selling all hybrids and switch out all brake pads only any car authorized to be sold

So in other words fuck you hybrid hippies ride a bike if you care about the enviorment not the tax refunds and imma burn as much gas as I want in my v6 so I can ride my bike more :) oh yea also the hybrid don't save anygas you waste as much as you do in a 4 cylinder when you go over 30 and Thats everywhere ( but they don't tell you that or this) and prepare so in 4 years you have to repalce the "battery"



BLAHER
02.10.10 - 11:28 am

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Thank you, but this is unreadable.

Please use periods, commas, and the enter bar.

thankyou, really. that was a good comment just hard to read.



TheDude
responding to a comment by BLAHER
02.10.10 - 12:25 pm

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Funny !
How people fall for it,
The next issue with the Prius is the batteries. When the batteries fail,
being wired in series they must all be replaced at once, costing thousands.
Then the used batteries become Hazmat polluting more than the car saved
in low emissions. Suckers !

My 20 year old V8 truck pollutes less, and will still be running in 20 years.



Dedicated818
responding to a comment by BLAHER
02.10.10 - 12:26 pm

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On the bright side, I haven't heard any horror stories of anyone having to replace a battery just yet. The first Priuses... Prii... whatever... came out ten years ago and I haven't met anyone who has had to replace a battery in one yet.

When a multicell battery goes "dead," it's very rare for all of the cells to die together. Usually just one dies, but you need all of them for proper operation. Technically, you could replace just the dead cell, but do you think Toyota can be bothered with the costly man-hours to identify the dead cell and disassemble the entire battery to replace it?

It's not just disposal, either... producing Li, NiMH, and other new-age batteries is one of the worst things you can do for the environment. There are wide swaths of lifeless territory around the factories that produce these batteries. Clean technology my -...

Ah, nevermind. They're not listening.



outerspace
responding to a comment by Dedicated818
02.10.10 - 12:59 pm

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there ya' go.



^olsko*jr7
responding to a comment by TheDude
02.10.10 - 1:22 pm

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Maybe carmakers should think again about having every damn thing in a car electronically controlled. Was a manual gas and brake pedal just so damn heavy that they needed to be upgraded to computer controlled drive-by-wire. Cars just get more complicated, harder to service, and more expensive. It's BS.

Oh,....and notice Honda just announced some recalls because of airbags. It's recall season in the PR departments. Finally time to own up to problems they've been hiding because the time is right. With Toyota taking all the flak now, the other automakers are going to come clean about their problems.



0gravity
02.10.10 - 1:50 pm

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I used to work in the industry so I have some insight.

Manual gas and brake pedals are more lightweight because you don't need heavy electric motors to actuate the throttle, or pumps to pressurize the brake fluid.

And believe me, auto manufacturers would love nothing more than to produce cars more cheaply.

Unfortunately, it's not up to them. As of 2006, the EPA requires that all automobiles utilize electronic throttle control. Even classic sports cars like the Corvette and rice-burners like the WRX had to convert to electronic control. Do you think sports car and sport-compact enthusiasts want electronic control interfering with their tinkering or driving? Do you think the manufacturers want to pay for it? HELL NO they don't. Even motorcycles are required to have electronic throttle now.

The government wants electronic interference between you and your motor vehicle, and of course, they want the manufacturers to pay for it (which passes the cost on to you). Reasons include safety (traction control via electronic throttle manipulation), environmental protection (poor emissions can result from going on- and off-throttle too quickly), and Big Brother making sure you don't modify your car (the ECU can act up and throw codes if you put exhaust, intake, or other modifications on w/o flashing the computer properly to account for the changes in the AFR).

Long story short, of course it is the manufacturer's responsibility to sell a safe product, but ask the government why we have to make these drastic, largely unwanted changes in technology.

Note that despite all these "improvements" in technology, even the best hybrids don't match the mileage a Civic used to get in the 80s. Something isn't adding up.

Or you could ride a bike and you wouldn't have to worry about any of it.



outerspace
responding to a comment by 0gravity
02.10.10 - 3:14 pm

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I am so sick and tired about hearing TOYOTA THIS and TOYOTA THAT on the news.

YOU WANT IT? You don't got it.... toyota


Stop Et.



Joe Borfo
02.10.10 - 3:27 pm

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Why is there a thread about a car?



Busride420
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
02.10.10 - 3:57 pm

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Exactly, took the words right out of my mouth.

As for busrides query, these defects could be part of the reason why some of us don't utilize cars on an everyday basis.

At least you don't have to worry about a bicycle exploding in the event of catastrophic failure.



bentstrider
responding to a comment by outerspace
02.10.10 - 5:08 pm

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Good post. That's pretty interesting stuff.



0gravity
responding to a comment by outerspace
02.10.10 - 5:38 pm

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