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Guidelines needed for deletes?
Thread started by User1 at 02.20.08 - 1:54 pm

Man can we establish some guidelines and "laws" regarding deletions? There's currently a false sense of openness about MR that really needs to be addressed.

Either that or let everyone delete a thread they started.

Your call.



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quitcher bitchin', Big Gay Al.
we're not paying for this site



spiraldemon
02.20.08 - 1:55 pm

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Yeah that addressed in the last thread that got deleted!



User1
02.20.08 - 2:01 pm

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I agree with Fluffer AGAIN!!!!
Jeff, you are so reasonable without a megaphone.
I suggest an LED text sign for you next time.

Yes Allan stop bitching.
RB deleted a thread that he started.
It's his site he can do what he wants.
DoOcracy




marino
02.20.08 - 2:01 pm

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delete in yer mouf



Joe Borfo
02.20.08 - 2:04 pm

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LOL

I agree with Fluffer AGAIN!!!!
Jeff, you are so reasonable without a megaphone.
I suggest an LED text sign for you next time.

Marino, I love you man !



skano
02.20.08 - 2:07 pm

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OK no problem. Just don't refer to MR as an open and free forum.

I've stopped!



User1
02.20.08 - 2:10 pm

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it IS open and free.
it doesn't cost you anything when you open your mouf



spiraldemon
02.20.08 - 2:15 pm

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it is pretty much an open and free forum... but sometimes at people's requests threads photos or comments get deleted. I deleted my thread because, while I still believe that REI should have better return policies for in stock brand new items with no receipt, as mk2454 pointed out, it was ridiculous for me to compare them with a regime that committed mass atrocities.... If I were to re-post I would retract that comparison.... but the topic was over and done anyway I didnt think anyone would be so passionate about it staying up.





Roadblock
02.20.08 - 2:25 pm

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"it IS open and free.
it doesn't cost you anything when you open your mouf"

Me -
That's not quite right. It cost people their time when someone devotes the time to properly explain how a little bit of commerce works when there's an on going discussion about it. It cost people their credibility when threads just vanish. Much like what would happen to people during the Nazi regime. There's no record of what happened, no guidelines set, just poof, and they're gone!



User1
02.20.08 - 2:33 pm

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Don -
"If I were to re-post I would retract that comparison.... but the topic was over and done anyway I didnt think anyone would be so passionate about it staying up."


Me -
Well it might have been over and done with for you, but what about the rest of us? It didn't even have a chance to drop down to mid-range of the Topic Box.

And it's not that I'm passionate about that thread in particular. I'm passionate about a lack of disclosure. I'm passionate about the lack of guidelines. I'm passionate about someone just pulling a thread that doesn't violate any of the points you bring up as to why threads are pulled.



User1
02.20.08 - 2:39 pm

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Alan. read up top above "post new" the guideline is pretty clear. get over it.



Roadblock
02.20.08 - 2:41 pm

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yes RB, you do censor yourself a little too much. I do think that saying "Nazi regime" is a "catch all" phrase for something is totalitarian, and unreasonable in its actions. I don't think most take it as REI or whoever killed 6 million plus purposely of innocent people and try to take over all of Europe. I think some just throw that out there, because they heard it before (it not like what the Nazi's did) and it is a easy bitch slap in an argument, for somebody who uses it.

I have a concern that I don't think most take into consideration. It this name that we all associate with. I'm sure everybody thinks they are part of midnight Ridazz, but the reality that I hear, Is that it belongs to this girl name Kim, who isn't really part of this anymore.
It is a shame that so many people put so much effort into the rides and into this site, and the realitiy is that it is a name that is controlled by someone is isn't part of this.

My wish was that when the original organizers of this ride gave it over, that they would have let the name go too. But my understanding is that they didn't. So the original organizers put in 31 rides, and everybody else has now put in 50something rides and folks.... It's not your name. You are all not midnightRidazz. This is sad to my, because so many people associate what is going on with this sites, with the rides, with the whole bicycle community in LA as MidnightRidazzz.

I wish that name would have died with the original organizer participation in these ride. I wish it had another name.

OR that the original organizers let the name go to the people who are involved in it now.

Correct me if I'm wrong.



sexy
02.20.08 - 2:47 pm

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alright "the whole bicycle community in LA" I know it's not the whole bicycle community in LA, its what we are doing here. GO AHEAD Bitch slap me on that one.



sexy
02.20.08 - 2:50 pm

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the name is out there for everyone to use but there are guidelines as to what it stands for of course, and there are restrictions on people using it for profit. someone can not just take the name ridazz and use it to promote a for profit venture nor can they create items for sale bearing the name or mark because the name Ridazz, Midnight Ridazz and the logo are all copyrighted trademarked works. it works to ensure that some company or person doesnt abuse the name or try to hijack it's original meaning. we are all midnight ridazz because the rides and the movement is composed of everyone who participates. but dont expect to take it and profit from it.



Roadblock
02.20.08 - 2:54 pm

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Don,

Yes the "post new" button states in part, "The Midnight Ridazz reserve the right to remove, edit, move or delete anything for any reason.", but this is very misleading. It gives the impression that there's a governing force of a group behind this site. When in fact it's just you. So wouldn't it be better to disclose that to all the visitors here? Either put your name in place of "The Midnight Ridazz", or let the people know who are "The Midnight Ridazz." One female and one male is the governing force behind MR or whatever it is.

Disclosure is what is asked for here Don. If it's just one person, which I think it is, I see you abusing our trust in you.

Why not put, The owner reserve the right to remove, edit, move or delete anything for any reason."?

Isn't that far more accurate?



User1
02.20.08 - 3:09 pm

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no it's NOT accurate Alan, as I said before, people (members of the midnight ridazz community) have asked for their threads or photos to be removed on occasion.



Roadblock
02.20.08 - 3:18 pm

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and sometimes they ask, and the threads remain the same.

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sexy
02.20.08 - 3:21 pm

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I can see Alan taking this and obsessing over it until he keels over asking to have everything removed in a fit of OCD rage so before that happens I will make an adjustment to the guidelines and make us both happy.



Roadblock
02.20.08 - 3:23 pm

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"and sometimes they ask, and the threads remain the same."


only if it's funny.



Roadblock
02.20.08 - 3:24 pm

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www.RoadblocksMidnightRidazz.com



sexy
02.20.08 - 3:46 pm

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i guess it's a no-win situation for me



Roadblock
02.20.08 - 3:49 pm

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Don -
no it's NOT accurate Alan, as I said before, people (members of the midnight ridazz community) have asked for their threads or photos to be removed on occasion.


Me -
Yeah people have asked for stuff removed that is insulting or whatever, I've addressed this and understand this. Stop skating around the issue. You know this is not what I'm addressing. I'm addressing that you and you alone have the power to remove text or pics on this site. So why not state this on the "post new" button? Why have this text that would explain it far more accurately?


NOTE: All timestamps are eastern time until we can figure out how the hell to change them to pacific time! The owner of Midnight Ridazz.com reserves the right to remove, edit, move or delete anything for any reason.






User1
02.20.08 - 3:57 pm

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because competent people generally understand what it means. therefore it needs no further explanation.



Roadblock
02.20.08 - 4:03 pm

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SInk alert sink alert....



Regular Mike
02.20.08 - 4:07 pm

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A TOTALLY FUN AND EXCITING WEBSITE THAT ENCOURAGES ANYONE THAT ENJOYS RIDING A BIKE, AND POSSIBLY CONSIDERING RIDING A BIKE, AND HERE WE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS SHIT, --- IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE WAY "MR" WEBSITE WHEELS ROLL, THEN YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE TO LOG-IN, READ, OR ADD YOUR TWO (2) CENT TO THE POT, I VOTE WE DIS-BAN THE ELITE CORE, THEY THINK THEY ARE "GODS" OR SOMETHING, THE REALITY IS THEY TAKE A SHIT, RIDE A BIKE, MAKE OTHER PEOPLE ANGRY, CRASH, AND ALL AROUND JUST TOTAL ASS-HOLES ( LOL ), THAT DON'T HAVE A LIFE "OUTSIDE" OF THIS BICYCLE SHIT, BE A MAN AND QUIT FUCKING WITH PEOPLE, GROW UP, AND REALIZE THAT WE HAVE A GOOD THING HERE, IT CLEARLY STATES THAT THE WEBSITE CAN EDIT, DELETE, SHIT THAT DOES HURT OTHER PEOPLE, YOU AGREED TO IT WHEN YOU CREATED YOU PROFILE, SUCK IT UP BITCHES.

---- I'M JUST SAYING!!!!!



eddieboyinla
02.20.08 - 4:07 pm

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That's such BS!!

Competent people don't have a clue who's in control and who can delete what. And you perfer it that way!



User1
02.20.08 - 4:09 pm

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AIlan just hates his day job.



Joe Borfo
02.20.08 - 4:10 pm

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Big Gay Al needs a job so he's not on the forums all the time, like me.

wait, I have a job.



spiraldemon
02.20.08 - 4:11 pm

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THE DESERT FUCKED HIM UP, HE WAS PRETTY COOL LAST NIGHT, JEFF MUST HAVE TURNED HIM DOWN TO " GO AROUND THE WORLD".



eddieboyinla
02.20.08 - 4:12 pm

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Party on his Roof this Friday!



Joe Borfo
02.20.08 - 4:13 pm

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"Competent people don't have a clue who's in control and who can delete what. And you perfer it that way!"

ha. I DO prefer it that way. so? stop obsessing about it Alan. you will go bananas. I deleted a thread. it happens. get over it. or go to those forums that allow you to be free and open and never delete anything....



Roadblock
02.20.08 - 4:14 pm

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PARTY IN BIG GAY AL'S MOUF SHOULD MAKE HIM HAPPY AGAIN! LOL



eddieboyinla
02.20.08 - 4:15 pm

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IT CLEARLY STATES THAT THE WEBSITE CAN EDIT, DELETE, SHIT THAT DOES HURT OTHER PEOPLE, YOU AGREED TO IT WHEN YOU CREATED YOU PROFILE, SUCK IT UP BITCHES.


ME -

IT'S AMBIGUOUS! IT DOESN'T STATE WHO IS IN CHARGE AND GIVES THE IMPRESSION THAT THERE'S A GOVERNING BODY, WHEN IN FACT IT'S ONE PERSON DELETING CRAP THAT HE DOESN'T LIKE OR THAT SOMEONE MAKES A REQUEST TO HAVE DELETED. THE SIMPLE ADDITION OF THREE WORDS WOULD MAKE IT FAR CLEARER TO WHO'S IN CHARGE.

AND HOW DO YOU KNOW IT DIDN'T HURT SOMEONE? SOMEONE SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME EXPLAINING HOW A LITTLE PIECE OF COMMERCE WORKS AND IT'S ALL GONE. HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT PERSON IS NOT HURT BY THAT?

AND NO I DID NOT AGREE TO THESE TACTICS WHEN I MADE MY PROFILE. WHERE DOES IT SHOW THAT WE AGREE TO THE ABOVE WHEN WE SIGN UP?

I'M JUST SAYING.



User1
02.20.08 - 4:18 pm

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50mmlosangeles.com



Regular Mike
02.20.08 - 4:18 pm

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Man you guys don't see how three simple words can clear up as to who's in charge?

I'm really loosing it.

Wait, you guys are messing with me right?



User1
02.20.08 - 4:21 pm

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Allan, I believe this link will explain it all to you clearly:

THREAD DELETION THEORY





Joe Borfo
02.20.08 - 4:21 pm

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Regular Mike, eddieboyinla,

When was the last time you had a debate about ANYTHING? I'll give you each a 6 pack of beer if you can find a thread you actually had a debate on.

Oh yeah Fluffa ain't far behind, but I think I remember something that resembled a debate.



User1
02.20.08 - 4:24 pm

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I hear what you're saying Alan... ideasculptor put a lot of thought into his words. I hope he can forgive me for deleting them. if not, I have a copy I can send over to him so his words are preserved. other than that... try not to obsess too much over it.



Roadblock
02.20.08 - 4:26 pm

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FORGET IT, TOO LATE SHE'S ON HER PERIOD.



eddieboyinla
02.20.08 - 4:28 pm

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QUIT TRYING TO "SWEET TALK" FLUFFA MAN!!!



eddieboyinla
02.20.08 - 4:30 pm

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!!!!!!!!!!!



turrican
02.20.08 - 4:32 pm

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as soon as you make rules, people are going to try to skirt them and push them and argue about how they're applied.

the site honestly runs fine with roadblocks infrequent and completely nontransparent moderation, why change it? he's the one paying the bills and keeping things running.



stevestevesteve
02.20.08 - 4:35 pm

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Don,

No dude this has come up before. Why do you want to hide behind this ambiguity? Have the best of both worlds? Not bad, gives the site more legitimatize. And I'm obsessing about you deleting my thread when I first asked what happened to the REI thread more than the original one. That one started with "WTF? REI Gone?!?!?!" That's what blew my mind. Talk about an authoritarian dictator huh?



User1
02.20.08 - 4:36 pm

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I had the same issue with the note above 'post new', until I realized that midnightridazz.com is Don/Kim and Midnight Ridazz is all of us. Someday there will be other sites that will provided an enhanced service but until then this all we got. It's all part of an evolution, before this site we had bikeboom.com.



sc_nomad
02.20.08 - 4:37 pm

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Big Gay Al can haz waaahhhm-burger?

deluxe.

dot com.

in yer mouf.



spiraldemon
02.20.08 - 4:39 pm

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TRIED TO SAY IT GENTLE ABOVE, NOW ILL SAY IT PROPER BIG GAY AL, GO SUCK A ...YOU KNOW, (( WAAAA.....WAAAAAAA......WWWAAAAAAAAA......)) BIG BABY!!!! LOL



eddieboyinla
02.20.08 - 4:39 pm

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all I have to say about this is

at least Al Jarreau isn't playing at your workplace right now



hartwick, youre a pussy
02.20.08 - 4:39 pm

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Allan I fixed that link for you: CLICK HERE



Joe Borfo
02.20.08 - 4:40 pm

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No steve, he deleted a thread when I questioned what had happened to the original REI thread. The claim made was that it was over and done with. That might have been the case for Don, but he doesn't speak for everyone that had a part in the thread. And since when do we delete threads after they are "over and done"?



User1
02.20.08 - 4:43 pm

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after 2 emails, i've still not heard back from the Bikeboom guy about an account so i can post. Now that's frustrating.



stevo4
02.20.08 - 4:45 pm

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Borfo -

that site's funny, but this is the one you should be looking at:

http://tinyurl.com/2lp4lt





turrican
02.20.08 - 4:46 pm

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EDDIE,

TRIED TO SAY IT GENTLE ABOVE, NOW ILL SAY IT PROPER, YOU HAVE THE INTELLIGENCE OF NINTH GRADER. DAAHHHHH HEY SMOKE ME OUT!!! DAAAHHHHH

OK I'LL MAKE IT A CASE OF BEER. FIND ME A THREAD THAT YOU HAD A DEBATE ON. AND NO FIGURING OUT WHERE TO MEET TO RIDE IS NOT A DEBATE!

LOL YOU LITTLE MEXICAN DUMMY!!!!



User1
02.20.08 - 4:48 pm

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RB whatever you do, for god sake please do not delete this thread....can you imagine CRYBABY's true identity unveiled.



Regular Mike
02.20.08 - 4:50 pm

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normally I would move to delete racist remarks from the site but since alan is obviously going to obsess over getting censorred....



Roadblock
02.20.08 - 4:50 pm

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.



turrican
02.20.08 - 4:54 pm

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Wait ! racist remarks should not be tolerated by any means ,fuck ones obession, delete this thread.



Regular Mike
02.20.08 - 4:54 pm

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i'm mexican and i'm not fuckin offended, so dont delete it rd!! thanks




eddieboyinla
02.20.08 - 5:01 pm

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So why do we HAVE to a debate? I didn't know this was a debating web site. Personally, I like to check out this site to see what rides are going on that I can try and catch. I heard this site described as a place to go if you're looking for a ride.

I am a competent and reasonable person and I don't feel mislead and I really don't care if there are any restrictions. I'm a big boy, if I didn't like the way this site is being run, I'd start one up myself. As I recall, I asked to join this site, RB didn't force me into it.I don't see where RB is saying no one else can start up a site. If you want a site where we can debate, then have at it and start your own. Otherwise, as far as I'm concerned, talk is cheap. I'm sure you have the ability to start up your own website and maintain it. I'm sure you can find a server to host it on, so have at it.

Rather than piss and moan about it, I'm just glad he's taking the time to maintain the site and for that, I'm extremely grateful.



mk4524
02.20.08 - 5:01 pm

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Allan. It's time to plan that Long Beach to San Pedro Spoken Art Ride we were talking about the other night.



Joe Borfo
02.20.08 - 5:05 pm

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@steve4,

Lars from Bikeboom is pretty busy. There are other people on this site that can post for you, I think Richie has posting rights. Bikeboom has been instrumental in getting the movement started. Lars is certainly one of the pioneers of this movement and is a very strong biking advocate.



sc_nomad
02.20.08 - 5:05 pm

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WTF!?!?!? You can call a non-gay person gay but you can't call a Mexican a Mexican?

Has this place gone insane?

So let's see, it's OK to offend gays by calling people gay and make them feel their less than a part of our society as others. Just don't try to call a Mexican a Mexican, a Greek a Greek or an Italian an Italian.

Am I getting this correctly?



User1
02.20.08 - 5:06 pm

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OH SHIT, I JUST NOTICED I GOT EDDIE TO STOP THE CAPS SHIT!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA



User1
02.20.08 - 5:07 pm

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FUCK YOU!!!



eddieboyinla
02.20.08 - 5:11 pm

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you're still gay, Big Gay Al



spiraldemon
02.20.08 - 5:12 pm

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LOL




eddieboyinla
02.20.08 - 5:13 pm

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OK SO IT WORKED FOR A FRACTION OF A MINUTE!!!

LOL

BTW, FLUFFA IS THE ONLY I'VE GIVEN MY BLESSING TO CALL ME BIG GAY AL!!!!!





User1
02.20.08 - 5:14 pm

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HEY WEBMASTER CAN I CALL BIG GAY AL A !@#$? ON THIS WEBSITE?




eddieboyinla
02.20.08 - 5:14 pm

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AND FUCK YOU TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!



User1
02.20.08 - 5:14 pm

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AND CAN WE CALL MEXICANS MEXICANS? AND GREEKS GREEKS? AND ITALIANS ITALIANS? AND AMERICANS AMERICANS?

WE AWAIT YOUR WORD OF POWERFUL ONE.......



User1
02.20.08 - 5:16 pm

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actually I honestly thought you were gay and it was some inside joke Alan serious. I've removed a few posts that are offensive to gays and there are words that are outright censorred in the word filter. regardless, the intent of your remark was racist any competant person can see that.



Roadblock
02.20.08 - 5:16 pm

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Thread got long while I was typing the following, but here it is anyway:

This is why my favourite motorcycle forum doesn't allow any topics of a political nature.

So there's kind of a slow moving offline discussion going on about upgrading the forum aspect of the MR site to software that offers more functionality, including the ability to edit your own posts, have multiple topic areas, and maybe even have (gulp!) moderators. Clearly, there are some who think we ought to drive that conversation forward a little harder.

These kind of meta-threads about the forum have arisen a couple of times since I've started participating, and there are obviously some people with strong opinions. I don't know anything about the midnight ridazz name, but it has a couple of things going for it - it is cool as hell and has pretty good brand recognition at this point, so I'd be loathe to abandon it. It seems more likely that we could reason with whoever does 'control' the name and allow it to be controlled by the community, if we are willing to define what that community is. But that would probably mean establishing some kind of guidelines for how the ridazz conduct their business. Bylaws, if you will. Personally, I hate having to get all formal over crap like this, and it seems to rub against the grain of anarchy the generally rules here, but it could be that at least a little formalizing of policy would be in order. We could use the opportunity to put together a committee of techno-geeks who would be responsible for putting together a plan for upgrading the site, too. I already know at least a couple of folks who are very much interested in that aspect of things.

My biggest concern in all this is to, as much as possible, not fuck with the spirit of Midnight Ridazz and the feel of this little community we've got going here, cause I really like the way it works for the most part.

I'm going to leave it to Roadblock to cast a yay or nay vote on whether we should proceed, but I'll offer up my house for a dinner and discussion for how we might proceed if the consensus is that we should do it that way (and the numbers look small enough to fit in my space).

Obviously, the tech improvements can and should be totally separate from any discussion of structural changes to the way MR conducts itself from an organizational perspective, but a single meeting in which we decide how to proceed from there will almost certainly be better than having the discussion on a thread in the forum. Personally, I'm pretty comfortable with roadblock staying on as a benevolent dictator. There's a reason the vast majority of successful open source software projects have someone sitting in just such a role. But it is also good to know the guidelines from which the BD will be working, too. It makes everyone feel more comfortable. And some folks object purely because their egos want the opportunity to be 'in charge' to some degree themselves, and anyone who is feeling that way probably ought to just go start their own community. My only concern is keeping MR as close to its original feel and purpose as possible even while we grow into an ever larger community. Yes, we'll probably have to make compromises along the way, but the trick is to keep them to a minimum.

And just for the record, it is important for folks to remember that a heated conversation on a forum thread, no matter the topic, isn't personal. People tend to speak more strongly online than they do in person, especially when they disagree, and that's generally cool, but it would be good for folks to keep that in mind. I certainly don't take anything about the REI thread personally, that's for damn sure, and I hope no one else does, either. I happen to like the company and stood up to defend them, but if I can't convince anyone else, that's OK, too. I'll still shop there. Politics of any kind online are pretty hard to moderate, but also a very interesting and entertaining topic of conversation. It is just as easy to post a retraction or apology as it is to delete a thread, though allowing post edits through more sophisticated software seems the ultimate answer to that particular problem. Some of the people whose opinions I respect most were originally adversaries in political conversations online, and we still disagree almost as much today as we did back then. Damn conservatives! But they are still dear friends, and we'd all be wise to remember that friendship is way more important than partisan opinion.

Oh, and Don, for the record, I am not in the slightest bit bothered by the content of, or the fate of, the REI thread. I just found it to be an interesting conversation.



ideasculptor
02.20.08 - 5:18 pm

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brown-nosers really make me laugh.
now i really wish i had taken pictures of the black poop made in the porta-potties in niland.



meandmybluebike
02.20.08 - 5:20 pm

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black poop score!



hartwick, youre a pussy
02.20.08 - 5:20 pm

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Borfo, you're an evil fucker! I haven't fallen prey to a rick roll in a long time and that one was particularly obnoxious. Well done, sir!



ideasculptor
02.20.08 - 5:22 pm

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I'd rather see pictures of Annie's Tar Poopies than read this thread.



Joe Borfo
02.20.08 - 5:22 pm

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Just noticed this WAAAAY near the top of the thread:

"Much like what would happen to people during the Nazi regime."




turrican
02.20.08 - 5:24 pm

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HE IS GAY MAN, RB, CANT YOU SEE IT, LOL.



eddieboyinla
02.20.08 - 5:26 pm

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actually if you remember (or not)
at the end of bikesummer LA, Lars created bikeboom.com

and

NY Joe, The kid who had the 5 dollar buy in race, which then become the controversy race. Team Drif LA, danceatiria, etc
created http://the1percent.myfreeforum.org at the same time.
Unfortunately, that does not exist anymore to see how similar in context it was to this.

It had:
calendar
photo
buy/sell/trade
Maintenance
Bloggs/Stories

At the time, people just wanted a place to post and find where the next ride was.

So bikeboom.com being simpler, and meeting the needs of the people at the time was used more, and the1percent never really took off.

then RB created this.

Who knows maybe Ibikeu will take of,f one day.



sexy
02.20.08 - 5:29 pm

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I agree with ideasculptor with the site being apoilitical. Aside from I bike bias, I think this forum should have no bias whatsoever. I even think that discussing CM in this forum was a little too much but the Obama thread that clearly political. Obama's popularity and the fact that the thread was posted by RB probably made it OK but it bothered me a bit.



sc_nomad
02.20.08 - 5:30 pm

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oh totally there are plenty of bike sites that do a better job technology-wise...

www.bikely.com

www.bikeforums.net

I like this one the best: www.bikespace.net it's like myspace but for bikes!





Roadblock
02.20.08 - 5:32 pm

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did we get an answer as to why several words of clarification on the post note were such a bad or even difficult thing? why not?

back to pooping. oh, and whoever made the black poop in niland, you should probably get that checked out. too much iron in the diet?



meandmybluebike
02.20.08 - 5:33 pm

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they were probably eating anvils



hartwick, youre a pussy
02.20.08 - 5:35 pm

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iron causes black poo?

wow. I'm going to fact check that on wikipedia BRB



Roadblock
02.20.08 - 5:35 pm

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TODAY IN MIDNIGHT RIDAZZ,

User1 questions the topic deletion practices of Roadblock, the conversation turns for the worst.



the reverend dak
02.20.08 - 5:42 pm

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I just wish people would stop mentioning the EPIC POOP..











(only because I MISSED OUT on seeing it!)



turrican
02.20.08 - 5:45 pm

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meandmybluebike -

back to pooping. oh, and whoever made the black poop in niland, you should probably get that checked out. too much iron in the diet?


Me -
Was that in the men's or women's pooper?



User1
02.20.08 - 5:46 pm

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So what's it going to be master? Can we call a Mexican a Mexican? Can we call non-gays gay? Are gays less than a full member in our society or not? Can I call Eddie a retard? Can I call him a Mexican retard?



User1
02.20.08 - 5:49 pm

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who wants to go out for some ice cream. Anybody want to meet up for some ice cream? This discussion needs ice cream.



sexy
02.20.08 - 5:53 pm

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That depends. Can we get some clarification on what you mean by "ice cream"?



turrican
02.20.08 - 5:57 pm

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ideasculptor -
And some folks object purely because their egos want the opportunity to be 'in charge' to some degree themselves, and anyone who is feeling that way probably ought to just go start their own community.


Me -
And some folks would just like it spelled out as to what gets deleted and what doesn't. Just because a member questions the authority of the o powerful one, should that grievance be addressed or is it off to the volcano with this member for a sacrifice to the bike gods? Do we delete all of the posts from our human sacrifice?

Before I am sacrificed I would like one more requests. Get some freaking moderators in here! And make it an odd number so it would be better govern. OK, I'm ready for the volcano.




User1
02.20.08 - 5:59 pm

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ice-cream (originally iced cream) is a frozen dessert made from dairy products, such as milk and cream, combined with flavorings and sweeteners, such as sugar. This mixture is stirred slowly while cooling to prevent large ice crystals from forming, which results in a smoothly textured ice cream. Similar frozen desserts have been developed substituting non-dairy ingredients (soy cream, soy milk, rice milk) for the milk and cream.[1][2] Although the term "ice cream" is sometimes used to mean frozen desserts and snacks in general, it is usually legally reserved for frozen desserts and snacks made with a high percentage of milk fat. Frozen custard, frozen yogurt, sorbet, gelato, and other similar products are sometimes informally called ice cream, but governments generally regulate the commercial use of these terms based on quantities of ingredients.[3] Ice cream is generally served as a chilled product. It may also be found in dishes where the coldness of the ice cream is used as a temperature contrast, for example, as a topping on warm desserts, or even in fried ice cream. Some commercial institutions such as creameries specialize in serving ice cream and products that are related.



sexy
02.20.08 - 6:02 pm

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OH SHIT.. watch out, now you're gonna trigger a fuckin' PLAGARISM DEBATE..



turrican
02.20.08 - 6:03 pm

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yeah, that Salton Sea was crazy. I was only their for 8 hours and it took me a couple of days to recover. I guess it affect everybody differently. I was a crazy dynamo with all this tension for a day, and the two times I released that tension, I was drained to where I couldn't move after.

Maybe that is what is going on, maybe somebody has some serious tension buildup that is being released around.



sexy
02.20.08 - 6:10 pm

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"who wants to go out for some ice cream. Anybody want to meet up for some ice cream? This discussion needs ice cream."


...and kittens.



stevo4
02.20.08 - 6:14 pm

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No, maybe it's someone deleting threads that question him overstepping the boundaries that that person has professed to exist. In other words he is deleting stuff that isn't objectionable or offensive.




User1
02.20.08 - 6:15 pm

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All that's missing are some disgruntled Ridazz



turrican
02.20.08 - 6:16 pm

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Hey Allan, I wasn't thinking of you when I posted about the ego thing. I wasn't thinking about anyone in particular, actually. I've just had enough experience with the internets to know that there are always folks who crave that moderator label just so they can be the big fish. Those people should never be moderators. If they don't have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the job, they shouldn't be doing it, if you ask me.

Oh, and about that black poop. I bet they ate some of Charlie's deck screws. That'd do it, don'tcha think?



ideasculptor
02.20.08 - 6:29 pm

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Sam, when you mentioned the ego thing. I thought you where talking about the kittens eating ice cream at the REI and the store manager telling the kittens that there is no eating ice cream in the store. Then the kitten say that they are members at REI and they redeemed their rebates, with the ability to eat ice cream inside the store.



sexy
02.20.08 - 6:39 pm

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the infamous Black Poop was in the 'women's toilet, but i saw a few men come out of there.
we should have had toilet meowoderators to make sure the proper sex enters the correct toilet and then to check to see if they make black poop or not. if they do, meowoderators yells out: "MEOWIEZZ!" to alert the entire camp so a photo opportunity is not missed and then we can throw the culprit into the fire pit.




meandmybluebike
02.20.08 - 6:50 pm

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did they have cats and ice cream in Niland?



sexy
02.20.08 - 6:51 pm

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If anyone removes their poop from the latrine after others have seen it, and also pooped on top of it, though?

OH MAN..



turrican
02.20.08 - 6:55 pm

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sexy,
they certainly do have cats in niland.



meandmybluebike
02.20.08 - 6:58 pm

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Oh how I wish I had seen this before heading to the Salton Sea. That right there is a 25 round nerf machine gun. How badly do I want to mount that on my sidecar rig?!!!!



ideasculptor
02.20.08 - 6:59 pm

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oops, wrong thread



ideasculptor
02.20.08 - 7:00 pm

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I want to know who in the f#@k used the urinenator in the men's pooper?

Dude you got a whole freakin desert out there!



User1
02.20.08 - 7:09 pm

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it must have been leonard knight.



meandmybluebike
02.20.08 - 7:15 pm

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I did.
I had just woken up. I had a splitting headache and I didn't want to figure out where I could pull my wiener without offending anybody. It also had a sink where I could wash my face and my hands before handling your breakfast.

Why all the anger today Allan ? Is it the eclipse?



marino
02.20.08 - 7:25 pm

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who needs a whole desert when you've got fluffa's mouf?



ideasculptor
02.20.08 - 7:51 pm

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Benevolent Dictator - that's funny. They all start out benevolent.



sc_nomad
02.20.08 - 8:59 pm

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Not my term, unfortunately. Its the (semi?) official title of the person who controls what code gets accepted in some open source projects, particularly the linux kernel, where Linus has long been referred to as a benevolent dictator.



ideasculptor
02.20.08 - 10:37 pm

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Allan, do you want your fire pit back?



Joe Borfo
02.20.08 - 10:56 pm

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new thread about the "fire pit?????"



eddieboyinla
02.20.08 - 10:59 pm

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YOU DIDNT DO CAPS!



Joe Borfo
02.20.08 - 11:01 pm

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OPPS....NEW THREAD ABOUT THE "FIRE PIT????"



eddieboyinla
02.20.08 - 11:03 pm

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THANK YOU!



eddieboyinla
02.20.08 - 11:03 pm

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Yes, this is now the Linus Torvalds thread.





kyber
02.20.08 - 11:03 pm

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"No, no, no. I'm not the walrus, I'm a walrus."



lackflag
02.20.08 - 11:12 pm

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"did they have cats and ice cream in Niland?"

We actually had Blackjack the Cat in camp. I still don't know what happened to him.



toweliesbong
02.21.08 - 12:23 am

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"I want to know who in the f#@k used the urinenator in the men's pooper?"

I did. I went to take a dump and decided to piss in the urinenator first.



toweliesbong
02.21.08 - 12:25 am

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I tried to stop him but blackjack leaped into the fire sunday night.

musta been all the amplification!



420LaHaRR
02.21.08 - 6:37 pm

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"I tried to stop him but blackjack leaped into the fire sunday night."

Poor Blackjack, I hope he kept you warm for a second or two.



toweliesbong
02.21.08 - 6:40 pm

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