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Tallbike Ticket! Courtesy of the LAPD
Thread started by SPOOK at 05.16.08 - 3:47 pm

The story:

I was riding my tallbike West, down Santa Monica Blvd (at Barrington Ave.) when a cruiser came up behind me and asked me to pull over. The two officers were some sort of traffic investigation team who had just came from a bike/vehicle accident scene and were very CVC savvy. The one in charge pulled out his CVC book and found the chapter regarding tallbikes being illegal [21201 (c)] in about 30 seconds. The officers were actually very respectful and polite, while I was clearly (and knowingly) in the wrong. The other officer (the one issuing the ticket) was stoked on my bike. Secretly, I think he wants one now.

In the end, I received a "fix it" ticket. Check it out.

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See the "how to fight a ticket" thread.



kyber
05.16.08 - 3:49 pm

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so what exactly does a "fix it" ticket mean in this type of case? somewhat confusing that it's a fix it ticket and not a citation of some sort.



barleye
05.16.08 - 3:51 pm

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it means you ride your langster to the court house to show the judge so you can be like "i fixed it, lol" and be done with it.



ruinedbyidiots
05.16.08 - 3:52 pm

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Or I could show up with Brassknuckle's tallbike.

"What? It is fixed!"



SPOOK
05.16.08 - 3:53 pm

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If only you were still in school right now...



stevo4
05.16.08 - 3:53 pm

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I AM in school still!



Apparently, I have two options:
1) Tell them that I'm going to scrap the bike.
2) Tell them that I will no longer ride it.

The ticketing officer wasn't quite sure what could, in fact, be 'fixed'.



SPOOK
05.16.08 - 3:55 pm

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A "fix-it" ticket.
Well, just be glad you're not driving a rig, got cited at a scale for a safety-violation, and have to return to that same scale to get the ticket written off.



bentstrider
05.16.08 - 3:55 pm

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They want you to make it a fixed gear!



duh

-J-



Justin
05.16.08 - 3:59 pm

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solution:
tell the courts you dismantled the bike by showing a picture of a pile of bike parts then.....

paint the bike for future citations. the color is the only legit. description of the bike on the citation.



barleye
05.16.08 - 4:03 pm

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I wonder how many times the fixed gear joke will be made in this single thread.



seanbonner
05.16.08 - 4:06 pm

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ruinedbyidiots
05.16.08 - 4:08 pm

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at least 3 more.



barleye
05.16.08 - 4:08 pm

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I'm REALLY sorry sean.


Realistically, i'm not though.


-J-



Justin
05.16.08 - 4:09 pm

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@SPOOK
That was the best "fixed" joke I've ever heard!
Why don't you show up as Elder Spook with the BikeBQ and grill their meatz?!



Leetard
05.16.08 - 4:10 pm

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@Lee
Haha, that is an excellent idea. "You think the tallbike was illegal? You ain't seen nuffin yet!"

@Barleye
This is probably the best idea I've heard thus far. The officers asked the make of the bike, after looking at it for a second. The only thing I could say in reply was, "Which part? There are like five bikes there." If it was painted, they'd have no way of knowing it was the same bike, right? Do you think this would avoid a stiffer citation if I were to get pulled over again?



SPOOK
05.16.08 - 4:16 pm

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Add a sidecar and pedal in sitting on that side?

OR get stilts.



neverclever
05.16.08 - 4:18 pm

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I wonder if adding some sort of pole with a toe clip on it that you could hook your foot into and support yourself like on a stilt (those are legal right) while stopped then hook it back onto (or make it some sort of long reach kickstand like device) the bike would solve it? you would be able to support the bike with one very long "shoe" on the ground. you could even put a shoe on the bottom.



FuzzBeast
05.16.08 - 4:19 pm

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lol, damn you beat me to it



FuzzBeast
05.16.08 - 4:20 pm

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Spook,

well.. you can't fix it, how else are we supposed to breed more tallbikes....



e-rock
05.16.08 - 4:26 pm

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also, i wonder if those cops would have ticketed someone on a penny farthing?



FuzzBeast
05.16.08 - 4:27 pm

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Kyle




sexy
05.16.08 - 4:29 pm

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There is no license or VIN number on the ticket.
All it says is "Rally White Bike".
Just show up with another "White Rally" and you fixed it.



marino
05.16.08 - 4:30 pm

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Spook,

Sell you bike to Alec for $100.

Alec, sell your bike to Spook for $100.

Do it at the same time.

Now you no longer ride it.

MATH



Alex Thompson
05.16.08 - 4:38 pm

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If they start cracking down, does this also mean that the bike build day is a fully illegal activity, and might get raided???



speedybrian2000
05.16.08 - 4:42 pm

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Bentstrider,

I'm always getting cited at scales,

because I'm so heavy!



Alex Thompson
05.16.08 - 4:43 pm

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So you just need a 6 foot kick-stand to fix the bike so at any moment you can stop the bike and it won't fall over. Or something.



0gravity
05.16.08 - 4:51 pm

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@Alex Thompson

Then quit holding it all in and take an RnR break there driver!!!
Hope you've got a HAZMAT for it as well.



bentstrider
05.16.08 - 4:54 pm

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IN A WEIRD WAY IT'S A RELEVANT VIDEO WHEN USING A CRUTCH OR STILT WOULD BE NEEDED TO RIDE A BIKE TO BE WITHIN THE LAW....I GUESS....





barleye
05.16.08 - 5:00 pm

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barleye
05.16.08 - 5:02 pm

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Dude, we (you) should make a time lapse hoax of you "disassembling" the bike and putting it back together as two regular bikes. We could have a fake movement and a website (tootallbikes.com) and everything.

It would be funny if you end up with two complete bikes and just keep insisting that you only used the parts from the original bike. We can provide a demo on how to "divide" a wheel to get two wheels from one. A whole generation would believe in magic again and fairies and sprites and elves would return from the forest to live amongst us again.



Knittens
05.16.08 - 5:03 pm

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dat was FRANZ, he psoted at my computer

BAD FRANZ - NO!



Knittens
05.16.08 - 5:05 pm

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"Rally" bike? As a former citizen of the British Empire, I'm insulted by the cops ignorance (and inability to read and spell).

Maybe that's your way out of the ticket right there; they couldn't even describe the bike accurately!



mr rollers
05.16.08 - 5:11 pm

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i agree wth 'marino' above, swap your 'really white bike' with another 'really white bike' that is still legal, you could claim that you took it to brassknucles "CHOP-SHOP".

DO YOU WANT ME TO SIGN YOUR TICKET, ON THE BACK?

REALLY ITS QUITE SIMPLE.

( NOW LET ME GET BACK TO "YMCA" <---DISCO OLDIE )



eddieboyinla
05.16.08 - 5:11 pm

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@speedybrian2000



SPOOK
05.16.08 - 5:12 pm

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Show up on a motorcycle and tell them you "upgraded" it.

Just make sure it's not a chopper.



turrican
05.16.08 - 5:16 pm

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spooks

there iz no kitteh in dta picshur

kittehs are killers, we sharps claws on bicyz

definitry kittehs wud be part uf diz raid

plz fix picshur, fanks

bai



Knittens
05.16.08 - 5:18 pm

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go go gadget foot






dannyzuko
05.16.08 - 5:20 pm

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do not dismantle the best tall bike in LA,

install pedals on lower crank,
show then you can safely climb down and put a foot down on lower crank pedal and beat the ticket, or else every other tall bike in LA is doomed



dannyzuko
05.16.08 - 5:22 pm

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show up on stilts..



sayton
05.16.08 - 5:23 pm

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Thanks for posting that Judas Priest clip, RBI.

Every time I roll a stop on one of my Reynolds-tubed bikes, I'm BREAKING THE LAW on BRITISH STEEL.



cabhauler
05.16.08 - 5:27 pm

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I think showing up on a different bike, or even just taking a picture of yourself next to a white bike would cover your bases. Like the police offers will 1. show up when you go in to prove its fixed and 2. remember exactly what it looks like. Hell, you could take a pink and orange bike with you and tell em you had to paint it from all the welding you had to do to take it apart.

If you don't ride there, make sure you tell em you drove because driving cars is much cooler then riding bikes, obviously. Then wink at the judge and give him the thumbs up. Stand there smiling and waiting for this:



DetroitRider
05.16.08 - 6:40 pm

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Will there ever be a day when tall bikes are legal?

Gay marriage is legal now.

Is the law against tall bikes discriminatory? An ordinance implemented by a bunch of Bible-thumping, conservative wackos who refuse to understand the alternative-lifestyle that is tall biking?






skd
05.16.08 - 7:32 pm

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why don't you make it into a fixed gear?



Joe Borfo
05.16.08 - 9:02 pm

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what?



Joe Borfo
05.16.08 - 9:03 pm

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what yourself!



FuzzBeast
05.17.08 - 8:18 am

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Bike Build Day's are still legit...
It is legal to build these 'Tall Bikes', as it is legal to ride them in 'a closed course'. Come on down & build em', Where you ride is up to you.



Gern
05.17.08 - 11:29 am

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Illegalize your bikes!



SPOOK
05.17.08 - 6:40 pm

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I wonder if there's any restrictions on LONG bikes...



angle
05.17.08 - 8:45 pm

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Dude, you could have easily photoshopped the 10mph to something decently faster...

The fact that this is even happening, right now, in LA (tall people getting politely cited for riding tall bikes) furthermore proves that 2008 is the year of the bike.





jericho1ne
05.17.08 - 8:52 pm

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jericho1ne brings up a good point.

SPOOK, you're, like, 6'19". Of COURSE you ride a tall bike. This is heightism.



katiepoche
05.18.08 - 1:41 am

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i just had a thought about this. Where in the CVC does it actually say the tallbike is illegal. Here is what spook was cited for:

(c) No person shall operate upon a highway a bicycle that is of a size that prevents the operator from safely stopping the bicycle, supporting it in an upright position with at least one foot on the ground, and restarting it in a safe manner.

It doesn't say anything in that paragraph about having to remain on the bicycle at a stop. When you stop the bike and get off it, you are still supporting the bike in an upright position as long as you don't lay it down. When the light changes you can climb right back up and safely start riding again.



brassknuckle
06.20.08 - 4:51 pm

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True, Dan.
I man, it seems odd to make highweels (or penny-farthings) illegal, and this is pretty much what you need to do with one of those at a stop... unless you can trackstand it... I've never seen that happen,. and would like to.



FuzzBeast
06.20.08 - 4:54 pm

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i'm going to continue riding my tallbike and use that as an argument if they try to ticket me. my interpretation is that i'm not doing anything wrong. Until the CVC says i must remain on the bike at a stop with at least one foot on the ground, climbing off the bike at a stop is prefectly legal in my opinion.



brassknuckle
06.20.08 - 4:58 pm

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Yeah, Horray for vague wording of laws!

Or, if you're tall enough, use a step through frame or a mixte for the top bike, you might be able to reach the ground. Also, the law doesnt specify an angle that is considered "upright"...



FuzzBeast
06.20.08 - 5:04 pm

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plus it says "highway", just stay of PCH.




alec
06.20.08 - 5:08 pm

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I just went and looked at my tallbike, and from what i can tell it's legal. I have two front headlights (one on each frame), two rear blinkies (on each frame), a rear reflector, reflectors on both pedals, an orange reflector on the front wheel, and a red reflector on the rear wheel. Because it's a fixed gear, i am able to "make one braked wheel skid on dry, level, clean pavement", and i am able to stand next to the bike at a stop and keep it in an upright position. I will now ride it without fear of a ticket.



brassknuckle
06.20.08 - 6:08 pm

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