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Thread started by sharkboi28 at 02.25.09 - 7:39 pm

who's going












can't wait

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im going. are there really gonna be no stops? or do you mean no "liquor" stops. stops help people catch up.
just saying.



javi
02.25.09 - 9:48 pm

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if you get dropped from lacm





keep coming until you don't get dropped.





they say the same for wolfpack....



and bicykillers......




and caturdays......



_iJunes
02.25.09 - 9:51 pm

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legit.



javi
02.25.09 - 9:55 pm

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i hope every one complains about this ride too




jabier
02.25.09 - 10:43 pm

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7pm start time




barleye
02.26.09 - 10:00 am

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I'm gonna go see Ghostbusters like its 1984.



la duderina
02.26.09 - 10:01 am

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Beverly Hills, here we come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



User1
02.26.09 - 10:08 am

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Facebook, Yelp and LA fixed has the ride time at 7:30pm



sgrant
02.26.09 - 10:13 am

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The real ride, read old school, starts at 7pm. That one rides all night and goes anywhere. The way it post ta be.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_Mass

Get ur beer before the ride!



User1
02.26.09 - 10:43 am

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... this cm is sounding like its gonna be something.



la duderina
02.26.09 - 11:08 am

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I posted on lafixed the 7pm start time.

where can you find it on yelp?



barleye
02.26.09 - 11:12 am

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if it's real old school style, then I'm there.



Joe Borfo
02.26.09 - 11:15 am

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REAL REAL REAL old school



barleye
02.26.09 - 11:31 am

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Go to Events on Yelp. Look for all the Friday events.

And the Facebook group is like 240 members. http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=22412540061





sgrant
02.26.09 - 11:36 am

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Yes sir, we're kickin it old school!

Workin on confirming BBD and da noise right now.



User1
02.26.09 - 11:36 am

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Yo Al, tell BBD Im willing to tow the trailer, and let him ride my bike instead or something, for this mission.



tallcans4tallbikes
02.26.09 - 11:42 am

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So much for the leaderless mass.....





stillline
02.26.09 - 11:52 am

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hater!



User1
02.26.09 - 11:55 am

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matt, it's about bringing the framework for the ride there and hoping for the best.... If it wasn't done this way, it would be led to a liquor store headed towards vermont and hollywood shortly after the start of the ride.



barleye
02.26.09 - 11:59 am

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stillline says:

"So much for the leaderless mass....."

+1

Let's get this debate rollin' folks. Come on now!



jonnyboy
02.26.09 - 12:07 pm

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This is my fourth CM. I thought it was leadersless before or at least it seemed spontaneous. Why is it changing now?




sgrant
02.26.09 - 12:11 pm

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Ok I was just kidding! Yowza!



jonnyboy
02.26.09 - 12:14 pm

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Trying to change the time on the day before the ride = FAIL.

You KNOW people are still going to show up at the same time as usual.

Good luck!



theroyalacademy
02.26.09 - 12:16 pm

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I dunno but the past months have been led, and so what? Its ok if people follow somebody its not like the C-MASS cops are gonna show up and tell us we're fuckin up. I'd love to lead a leg of this in friday



tallcans4tallbikes
02.26.09 - 12:17 pm

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it used to have a set end time so it could meet up with the peoples ride. not this time.



tortuga_veloce
02.26.09 - 12:23 pm

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OSR



la duderina
02.26.09 - 12:24 pm

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For anyone who wants to enjoy a night free of any drama and/or police attention, Venice Critical Mass is always an option for you too.

It's a bit more relaxed, chilled out, laid back... whatever you wanna call it! It is what it is.



jonnyboy
02.26.09 - 12:26 pm

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theroyalacademy,

The 7pm start time was called a couple of days after the last LACM ride.

And the only reason this is being done is to bring back the dynamics of how this ride is suppose to be done. No leaders, no route, no time limits, and no part of the city too far to travel.

It's driven by consensus.



User1
02.26.09 - 1:03 pm

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I remember when it was leaderless, routeless and without destination.

It was fun!!

I remember one time we were riding west on Olympic, and up in front with everyone following was EddieBoy. This is like one of the first times I met him, and I asked where he was going, and he says "I don't know, just ridin; I hope people aren't following me." LoL....I think we road to Westwood/Culver City just following Eddie.



Eric Hair
02.26.09 - 1:48 pm

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that's how it should be....worst case scenario is we ride at 7pm and come back around at 7:30 to pick up the 7:30 crew.....



barleye
02.26.09 - 1:55 pm

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I usually boycott LACm because something ALWAYS goes wrong. But Meh. I'm Leading you urban youth. Monster style. Which means I'll scream at you, if I want to.



Tarmonster.
02.26.09 - 1:58 pm

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CLARIFICATION -

My good experiences of CM has been when it was "leaderless",

However, that term is sort of deceptive, because there is always going to be someone who is in front who makes a decision or develops a spontaneous idea and the group follows. The point is not to have a planned idea...

To me its kind of like riding in a flock of birds, you just tend to naturally know where to go. A preconceived notion of where to ride is not the old school I am talking about. Perhaps that is more old school than I have experienced.

I feel that people have the ability to work together as a whole. When somebody's ego gets too big and they want to hijack, then it changes the flow. Get back to just riding and going with the flow.

If you don't get it, then don't worry about it.



Joe Borfo
02.26.09 - 1:58 pm

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not to dredge up last month....but the ride should be the polar opposite of last month...which was ride to bogey's (45 minutes stop)...ride to griffith park...ride to peoples ride....

the "route" was set beforehand and someone who knew the route was riding just a tad bit faster than everyone else so it was virtually impossible to change it unless you wanted a confrontation which is lame in itself.......





barleye
02.26.09 - 2:02 pm

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exactly. My point is No Pre Planned routes.

Vibes are always different in any group. You sort of feel each other out and then you just go in a direction that seems to flow. Its not about a raise of hands who wants to go where. It's about taking turns and sharing in following and fronting the ride. It's almost Zen-like when it is working, and in my opinion, the most fun.



Joe Borfo
02.26.09 - 2:05 pm

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Didn't we ride through Scientology last month? That was fun.




sgrant
02.26.09 - 2:05 pm

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Which was also the route the previous month too. Barley

I'm all for keeping this as organic as possible. I'm just getting my lobbing in a little early. ;-)



User1
02.26.09 - 2:06 pm

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LACM was awesome wheni first started last April...since it has gone downhill...more like Drunk Mass

when it becomes a RIDE again and not a liquor stop hop i will return untill then I will be a VCM

Brad, I hope you can bring it back



TheRaquel
02.26.09 - 2:08 pm

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Don't hope for one person to "bring it back". Its up to the entire group on how the ride plays out.



Graham
02.26.09 - 2:09 pm

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Not knowing where the next place is going to be is fun.
Not having expectations except to ride and to see other non riders get excited about it is fun.



Joe Borfo
02.26.09 - 2:10 pm

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hey Raquel....what Graham said.....also....how about coming out to LACM and riding with us????



barleye
02.26.09 - 2:17 pm

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Yeah Brad, don't fuck it up!



User1
02.26.09 - 2:19 pm

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I strongly advise on having stops for the ride. This is usually a lot of peoples first ride and who wants a persons first ride to be exhausting and frustrating? I don't care where the stop is, I'm actually for not having liquor store stops but we really should have elongated regroup stops.



Graham
02.26.09 - 2:21 pm

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it's also called REGROUPING.



Joe Borfo
02.26.09 - 2:28 pm

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I'll be there. I stopped going when the start time moved and the ride was just a pre-quel to the people's ride. It's really good to know that there are other people who were disappointed with that dynamic. Raquel, get your 94.7 smooth jazz ass to LACM.

I'm riding critical mass until it's time to go see Mike Watt at Spaceland. Old school critical mass, old school punk rock. That's how I roll.



Ms. Stephanie
02.26.09 - 2:31 pm

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Oh yeah. I forgot, I'm going to see Mike tWatt too!



Joe Borfo
02.26.09 - 2:33 pm

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re-groupings a given....



barleye
02.26.09 - 2:34 pm

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I don't feel like this ride should be obligated to meet up with the peoples ride. I usually leave before or in the beginning of the peoples ride, usually by then everything is a drunk mess & and the vibe of the whole thing is really weird and off putting.



Graham
02.26.09 - 2:36 pm

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Might I also encourage that we try to embrace some of the same ideals of "Critical Manners", in which riders focus on communication and civility between motorists instead of inviting confrontation.

I'm excited to ride LACM again.

I hope to see it become a fun, safe, and motivational symbol of bicycles on the streets.




Joe Borfo
02.26.09 - 2:51 pm

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Chances are pretty slim we'll be by there. Have your friends call and find out where we're at.

Then again, it is driven by consensus.



User1
02.26.09 - 2:52 pm

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wimp alert!



User1
02.26.09 - 2:58 pm

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I'll show you a teabag, Wimp1.



Joe Borfo
02.26.09 - 3:12 pm

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Damn, I gota do something about that belly!



User1
02.26.09 - 3:23 pm

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Can we confirm regroup stops? I wanna bring my dad out!!!



imachynna
02.26.09 - 3:32 pm

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What if a bunch of people need to poop?



jonnyboy
02.26.09 - 3:34 pm

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Are the regroup stops gonna occur near bathrooms. I am bringing two girls for their first ride.



sgrant
02.26.09 - 3:35 pm

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"What if a bunch of people need to poop?"

try -



Joe Borfo
02.26.09 - 3:41 pm

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we're gonna make a conscious effort to time our regroups near no restrooms....



barleye
02.26.09 - 3:47 pm

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POOP PANTS



POOP DICK
02.26.09 - 3:49 pm

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Al,
You gotta stop falling asleep around ridazz with cameras dude.



Creative Thing
02.26.09 - 3:51 pm

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That was stuped campin trip. I need to start bringing a tent like everyone else!



User1
02.26.09 - 4:10 pm

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Or, climb into a tree and make a hammock!!!



bentstrider
02.26.09 - 10:43 pm

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"That was stuped campin trip. I need to start bringing a tent like everyone else!"

I don't know, your setup at the Salton Sea was pretty rad.



toweliesbong
02.26.09 - 10:47 pm

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Mike tWatt at Spaceland? tWhat? I didn't even know.



PC
02.26.09 - 10:57 pm

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Yeah, that's right, I'm from San Pedro and I didn't know about a Mike tWatt show. What's it to you? Fuck off.



PC
02.26.09 - 10:58 pm

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I hope this months LACM is good.



funanu
02.26.09 - 11:06 pm

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OK boys and girls, the noise maker has been confirmed. BBD will be bringing the F.U.N. box.

Alex, Dan doesn't have your number. Can you email me your number so he can call you? He said to be there at the start at 6pm so he can put the hitch on your trailer. Get back to me asap so we can all get on the same page.

allanalessio a yahoo dog con



User1
02.26.09 - 11:10 pm

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damn. I am going to miss all of this yet again. have fun.



Joe Borfo
02.27.09 - 1:06 am

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this is going to be my first Critical Mass.

i'm just not clear on what happens if somebody gets a flat and they get left behind trying to fix their shit and they lose the group?

that would suck to be left in the middle of LA when there is a huge bicycling group riding around and you are all alone and don't know where to go anymore. :-/



Antranik
02.27.09 - 9:16 am

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yell out "flat" and someone will stay back and assist...most likely....bring an extra tube, levers, a hand pump, and whatever tools you may need for a repair.



barleye
02.27.09 - 9:54 am

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Make eye contact with a rida. Make those sad puppy dog eyes and say, "I got a flat."

You should definitely carry your own tools and tubes.



Joe Borfo
02.27.09 - 10:03 am

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here's what everyone should bring:

-wrench (if you dont have quick release wheels)
-tire levers (for prying off the tires)
-spare tube (at least one)
-patch kit (in case you only brought one tube)
-pump or CO2 cartridge (because being prepared is punk rock.)
-front and back lights (because whats the point of changing a tire if youre going to get run over on your way home?)

do as I say, and you'll be fine.



tortuga_veloce
02.27.09 - 10:26 am

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I yelled out flat before and it never works! i always get left behind waahh! never again!



pporras
02.27.09 - 10:30 am

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I yelled out flat before and it never works! i always get left behind waahh! never again!

I still think a bike-trailer with several, different tire/tubed wheels stowed away would be a good idea.

Basically, just use some "not so high-end" ones to quickly throw onto a disabled ridazz bike to ensure they're able to make it to the next stop point for the repair of their own wheel/tire/tube.



bentstrider
02.27.09 - 10:35 am

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It would be great if Tallcans Alex leads this ride.

As Allen is always fond of reminding us....there are rules to Critical mass. The main one is...."we are traffic." As a rule this ride should always endeavor to remain in traffic congested areas. Exerting our rights to the road, etc, etc.

Riding to desolate areas without traffic just isn't a Critical Mass and we do that with so many other Eastside rides.

As far as the stragglers and flat tires. Stillline, Eddieboy or a slew of other conscientious and helpful riders usually stop and give aid.
As long as the ride isn't fast and furious, and the regroup stops are spaced out evenly.





skd
02.27.09 - 10:35 am

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CHECK THE LAST FEW MINUTES OF THE VIDEO. IT'S ALL GOOD BUT THE LAST MINUTE OR SO IS AWESOME....






barleye
02.27.09 - 10:42 am

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dang, so much to do



Aqueous Atom
02.27.09 - 10:42 am

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@ PC--------ball hog or tugboat?




robert stanfield
02.27.09 - 11:03 am

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We need a playlist. For those that have a ipod, bring it.

Also I haven't heard from Alex yet. Alex get back to me,

5sixtoo six 7 tree 0 six for tree



User1
02.27.09 - 12:04 pm

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I AGREE critical mass should stay where it is congested. soooooooooooo we should TOTALLY ride through hollywood/highland and then sunset hahahahahaha



Antranik
02.27.09 - 12:05 pm

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Those that are worried about getting dropped. This is a chilled ride, not a hustle. We stay grouped for safety. Just bring a working bike and make sure the tires are pumped up, not just you!





User1
02.27.09 - 12:07 pm

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If this is your first CM ride, then what's up with calling out the route Antranik?

I mean any ride that I'm doing, I would want to lay back and get a feel for it. Know what I mean? Unless you just signed on with a fake account and have been around awhile.



User1
02.27.09 - 12:10 pm

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I for one am really tired of going into the hollywood area on LACM. I'd much rather go to the downtown/east LA area. Something relatively new.



Graham
02.27.09 - 12:12 pm

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So are we still leaving early and ditching all the people who arrive at the normal start time?





stillline
02.27.09 - 12:27 pm

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YES MR. PARTY FOUL....we're leaving at 7pm and riding. it's been posted here for a month about the 7pm time.



barleye
02.27.09 - 12:39 pm

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Why do that? Why cut the ride in half by leaving early?





stillline
02.27.09 - 12:41 pm

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Matt, welcome to midnightridazz. We hope you enjoy your time here.



User1
02.27.09 - 12:43 pm

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Im not trying t b a dick. I often am.

I'm just saying if you are trying to show people what a "Real" CM is then why not include some of the people who don't read the threads and are not aware of the new start time.






stillline
02.27.09 - 12:47 pm

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We got these modern conviences called cellphones. We plan on putting them to use. If you know someone that has one of these modern contraptions and is starting at 7:30, maybe they can call one of us?



User1
02.27.09 - 12:57 pm

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I know this isn't the only place LACM is posted....but at the very least, the people that read this thread or last months LACM thread should be ready to ride at 7pm.. if anyone hangs around for 7:30 arrivals, they can grab someones number if they wanna join in the fun.....who knows....the 7pm crew may happen to ride right past the start point at 7:30....



barleye
02.27.09 - 1:01 pm

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@Alan

I was talking about all the people who come that we don't know and who don't read this site.

There's a lot of non MR riders on Cm and they won't know anything about this time change or ho to call for the 411 on the "Real CM".







stillline
02.27.09 - 1:03 pm

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You don't think there will be one person there that's waiting for people at 7:30? I'm betting there will be at least one there. If not, we'll leave a message written on the sidewalk in chalk. Or the lady selling tamalli can give a messge, or we can send a police unit over and let them know what's up, or we can have them start there own and run into them by chance or we can fan out our ride and go looking for them and make up a new name for the ride or maybe we can



User1
02.27.09 - 1:09 pm

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My first ride w/ a group of peeps. Usually ride alone w/ my music :)
And about the light things I need to get some



Avis_One
02.27.09 - 1:16 pm

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99 cent store has red blinky lights....any bike store will have front lights.



barleye
02.27.09 - 1:21 pm

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Camel Walk FTW.



jericho1ne
02.27.09 - 1:28 pm

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*bump*



Avis_One
02.27.09 - 3:12 pm

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Some LACM history:
5 years ago the ride rode through 3 Safeway/Vons stores to support the strike. No 'to', but 'through'. It was awesome.

Los Angeles Critical Mass Rides Through Vons




bike punk
02.27.09 - 3:16 pm

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Late people can just come on over to The peoples ride we promise not to leave early or on time ..



Debut213
02.27.09 - 3:45 pm

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Tell me mores :)



Avis_One
02.27.09 - 3:47 pm

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Why don't you all just stay home and cry about lacm instead of riding your bikes?



kryxtanicole
02.27.09 - 3:52 pm

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100



jabier
02.27.09 - 4:04 pm

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i just made a website that will update you on the location of the critical mass if you happen to arrive late and don't know where to go... or get a flat tire and lag and get lost...

it just involves my twitter account that can be setup to send a text to your cell phone.. follow the directions on the site i just made here...

http://www.green-cycles.com/track/



Antranik
02.27.09 - 4:29 pm

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Man, we always ride north, east or west.

What about south?? Like way south. Like onto the Balogna Creek path and down to Marian Del Rey.

I know, I gotta get in front and make 'er happen, but I won't be there, so whoever leads..........GO SOUTH YOUNG PERSON!!!!!!!!



Eric Hair
02.27.09 - 5:06 pm

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i have all but lights and I seem to find my hand pump :(



Avis_One
02.27.09 - 5:25 pm

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Plenty of people on the ride have hand pumps. As long as you have a tube that fits your wheel you will be fine. If you have no tube, me and a bunch of other people have patch kits which work for most flats as long as you don't have some huge ass hole in your tire or something.

If you ride in traffic alone you really should have lights. However the cops that we usually run into on LACM don't give bikelight tickets very often if at all. So you should be okay with no lights this time but get them as soon as possible.

If this ride were in Santa Monica or Long Biatch you would stand a high chance of getting a ticket.









stillline
02.27.09 - 5:31 pm

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hi matt.



barleye
02.27.09 - 5:35 pm

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Why don't you all just stay home and cry about lacm instead of riding your bikes?

Yeah, go into your mommys closet and try on dresses!!!

Real Juggalos mount up and chase the posse like a flock of BBQ'd geese!!!



bentstrider
02.27.09 - 5:39 pm

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Yeah I have a patch kit as well my front light got stolen. I going to get one of those clip on for my back pack :)



Avis_One
02.27.09 - 5:50 pm

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knock on wood but Ive gone pretty far w/ out lights.



Avis_One
02.27.09 - 5:54 pm

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I love rules.



Alex Thompson
02.27.09 - 5:58 pm

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I hate rules.



Alex Repeats Himself
02.27.09 - 5:59 pm

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Fuck you.



Alex Thompson
02.27.09 - 5:59 pm

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Fuck you.



Alex Repeats Himself
02.27.09 - 6:00 pm

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blow me.



bentstrider
02.27.09 - 6:01 pm

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Have a good ride. Me and Uncle Nicks favorite ride. We miss it!
Do it RIGHT



sexy
02.27.09 - 6:32 pm

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Sad that I'm missing this. Critical Mass was my, and many peoples first group ride. So it's great to see it return to form.



wiz_vanmeter
02.27.09 - 7:03 pm

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Change is unavoidable



Debut213
02.27.09 - 7:10 pm

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it was kinda funny to have the chopper shine the light on us. what a fucking waste of resources.



coldcut
02.28.09 - 2:40 pm

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wrong thread.

that happened on the people's ride.





coldcut
02.28.09 - 2:41 pm

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