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Gas could hit $1 a gallon shortly
Thread started by JB at 12.9.08 - 12:18 pm

Luckily we've got MR showing folks the joy of cycling, because gas prices aren't going to get people on bikes for a while.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i5TtajgUpSm7KY5jf-lCJGHBB-tAD94STB7G0

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expensive gas didnt really get that many more people on bikes either.



ruinedbyidiots
12.9.08 - 12:19 pm

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stock up now. we will need it for the years to come.



boneclaws42
12.9.08 - 12:22 pm

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RBI.....................that is up to one interpretation of the situation.

One thing for sure,lower gas prices lower the demand and brought down the price of used bikes.



sexy
12.9.08 - 12:27 pm

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@ RUINEDBYIDIOTS

not true, I am one of them, and i know 3 people at my work that started biking because of gas.



tortuga_veloce
12.9.08 - 1:09 pm

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ok, so four people out of how many that were affected? more people bought those hideous vespa scooters than they did bikes.



ruinedbyidiots
12.9.08 - 1:11 pm

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i couldnt afford my car/gas anymore, so i got a bike.
i can afford my car again, but i prefer my bike now.

thats makes 5 people





Candy Cane
12.9.08 - 1:21 pm

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Wait Sarah, you used to drive???

I just never pictured you as the driving-type at any stage in your life.



bentstrider
12.9.08 - 1:32 pm

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I still have my 8 mpg tank. Filled it all the way up for $30 the other day.

Time to take a road trip!



Mook
12.9.08 - 1:38 pm

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@rbi stop trolling. get a job
Everybody knows that the last few years bicycle sales have gone up, car sales have gone down.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/08/higher-fuel-price-increase-bike-sales.php

With gas prices down it's cheaper to drive that take public transportation. The increase in car traffic lately is noticeable.

That's way they should tax the fuck out of gasoline make it $7 a gallon and use the money to fund public transit.

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marino
12.9.08 - 2:01 pm

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(Rewrite for typos)
Everybody knows that the last few years bicycle sales have gone up, car sales have gone down.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/08/higher-fuel-price-increase-bike-sales.php

Now with gas prices down it's cheaper to drive than take public transportation. The increase in car traffic lately is noticeable.

That's why they should tax the fuck out of gasoline make it $7 a gallon and use the money to fund public transit.

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marino
12.9.08 - 2:03 pm

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1junes
12.9.08 - 2:11 pm

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people should drive more hybrid prius like cars that make no noise on the streets. sure they are saving they environment, but cyclists cant hear them.



ruinedbyidiots
12.9.08 - 2:14 pm

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I would say at least 4 or 5 more bikes showed up in our company bike parking racks during the gas price peak, and those bikes are still around. Public transit use spiked and has since dipped a bit, but is still quite a bit higher than this time last year despite lower gas prices.

If gas prices stay bottom of the barrel I think we'll be right back where we started, but this does seem to have been a wake up call for at least some people. I think people realize that the gas price drop has a lot to do with the economy bubble bursting, and can rise just as high again. Even though gas is cheap, people are being more frugal with spending generally, and part of that has been continued reductions in vehicle miles traveled from this time last year.



GarySe7en
12.9.08 - 2:21 pm

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Don't kid yourselves. The price of gas will be back up to $4-5 or higher once the economy is back up and humming along. It's this low cause there's no demand for it.



User1
12.9.08 - 2:39 pm

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@user1

Which would be a good thing for me, because business picking up equates to an easier job-hop into another company.

This local, container-hauling shit is bizzoring the fuck outta me!!



bentstrider
12.9.08 - 2:45 pm

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oo man once it bottoms out, i'ma fill up THE BOX!!!

on C.R.A.N..MAS it used $100 of gas... NOW it'll be more lie $30 WOOO HOOO!!!



richtotheie
12.9.08 - 2:52 pm

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Gas is your friend!!! Let no one tell you different. At $1.90 a gallon why ride a bike? Why invest in alternative fuels. They're not cost effective. Forget solar and wind. It's cheaper to pump and burn. We need to send our Arab friends a big collective love hug for pointing out the folly of our turning away from oil marriage and looking for a new lover. And those silly democrats with their green ways. But that's another story all together.



indigis
12.9.08 - 3:11 pm

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FUCK THATS EXPENSIVE!

and dang moreno. i never though of it that way. public transit is as if not more expensive then a car.

fuck my car.
the battery is dead
insurance is fkn expensive

FUCK IT.
beater bike > beater car.

thank god bike prices will go down :]

and i definitely saw much more bicycles on the road. but all on the sidewalks.

last night there was a bike orgy in a metro elevator.



aksendz
12.9.08 - 3:12 pm

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i dont own a car, and havent for awhile, i dont even think i have a DL, oh well.



theshues
12.9.08 - 3:13 pm

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moreno

MORENO!!!!!!!!!



Graham
12.9.08 - 3:16 pm

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The price of gas increases at a lesser rate than that of inflation. Which makes sense when you consider how advanced the world's oil scavenging techniques have become.

I can't wait 'till we run out of oil and great minds begin to focus on the world's next source of energy. It's bound to rock!!



Eric Hair
12.9.08 - 3:22 pm

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It's called solar thermal, and it does indeed rock.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_thermal_energy

Not much good at night though.



JB
12.9.08 - 3:31 pm

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crank engine....get it ...get it!



aksendz
12.9.08 - 3:42 pm

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I like wave buoys. Seems like a good idea. So long as we can get the energy from the ocean floor to the mainland, reliably.



Eric Hair
12.9.08 - 3:48 pm

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im still trying to sell my car. i don't need that thing anymore.



Jazzy Phat Nastee
12.9.08 - 4:27 pm

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Wave energy is pretty sweet, especially the new technology based on fish.

http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/12/03/vivace-vortex-hydro-energy/

I think that brief stint of $5 a gallon gas let the alternative energy genie out of the bottle, so hopefully we'll get some of this stuff online soon.



JB
12.9.08 - 4:41 pm

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@rbi Many many articles and interviews have been written and made about the fact that high gas prices directly effect the sales of entry level and commuter oriented bicycles. This was huge when gas was $4+. There was an industry shortage of 27 X 1 1/4" replacement tires when the gas prices were peaking. Everyone and their crippled mother were grabing the old Schwinn Letour out of the garage and putting fresh tires on for their commutes.

Does anyone here realize that gas prices are directly effected by the economic situation and easing the prices is what happens during a recession. Oil prices during stable economic times are mainly influenced by oil speculators. Basically people who tell you how much oil will be available in the near to distant future. With a slowing US economy and global slowdown of manufacturing brought to you by the failing consumer index. Less oil is needed for demand currently and with trends showing it has nowhere to go but down right now, oil and every other petrol product or shipping of those products will decrease in demand which gives a surplus in the chain which will take time to consume and get back to oil consumption at the rate we were headed. The problem there is, everyone now is looking at ways of cutting their costs. Mving closer to work buy more fuel effecient cars and so-forth. Which brings us back to the supply keeping up with demand. Now, China will grow and replace our consumption of imported oil in the global market by the year 2013 which at that point China will go to OPEC and say(make them) we need more oil and here is the money. OPEC will then start pumping more oil, but it won't be for us, and hopefully by that point we have started using all of the "green" vehicles and models for living, and that will regulate the oil speculators to increase prices to overcompensate for the loss of demand in the US market.


PLEASE READ AND UNDERSTAND BEFORE YOU COMMENT!!



parlorbikes
12.9.08 - 4:45 pm

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How about photovoltaic solar satellites?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_satellite



vor
12.9.08 - 5:03 pm

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+ wave technology!!!!!!



parlorbikes
12.9.08 - 5:04 pm

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You know, there's this price of gas thing, but it's weird, it's just sort of a number I see around, aside from the tangential effects on things like food costs, it's just that, a number to me, I havent bought gas in almost 3 years...



FuzzBeast
12.9.08 - 5:12 pm

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"im still trying to sell my car. i don't need that thing anymore. "

If reclaiming the monetary value of the vehicle is not as important to you, I know there are some transit bloggers looking for a donated vehicle to destroy as part of their murder a car project.

"Are you ready to release yourself from the chain of car ownership? Do you want it documented?

The Bus Bench wants to make that dream happen for you."

http://www.thebusbench.com/



GarySe7en
12.9.08 - 5:21 pm

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It directly effect just about the cost of everything you buy.

How do you think that bag of Bic pens at Wal-Mart got there and only costs $.97

Plastic bag=oil
printing on bag=oil
plastic pen barrel=oil
plastic barrel cap=oil
plastic pen cap=oil
plastic barrel cone=oil
plastic ink carrier barrel=oil
ink=oil
metal cone and ball=heated and smelted with energy produced by oil

Shipped from China to a Wal-Mart near you by........OIL




parlorbikes
12.9.08 - 5:24 pm

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My stepdad's actually got this old-school, roll-top desk with a train-conductors office, desk-lamp and a quill-pen!!!

Hand-made from an American forest, and the lamp was made somewhere in Pennsylvania.

The quill-pen set, fuck if I know.



bentstrider
12.10.08 - 2:08 am

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