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lancearmstrong: LA Ride
Thread started by Joe Borfo at 09.9.09 - 3:51 pm

From Twitter

RT @lancearmstrong: Hey LA -... get on your bikes. Time to ride. 7:30 tomorrow am. Griffith Park, LA Zoo parking lot. See you there..

I might do this.

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Stay out all night tonite?



User1
09.9.09 - 3:52 pm

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too early must work



_iJunes
09.9.09 - 3:53 pm

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ahh shit. I guess I'm in.



Roadblock
09.9.09 - 3:54 pm

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i just got this texted to me...

sounds cool...

might do it before work...



md2
09.9.09 - 3:54 pm

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I'm in if I can get my ass out of bed that early. Which means I'm not doing it.



la duderina
09.9.09 - 3:59 pm

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Hundreds of people showed up to same sort of invite in Scotland in the pouring rain and cold, so we should be able to best them at least. Sadly my arm is hurt pretty bad from off road fall this weekend but I may try to come out anyways.



GarySe7en
09.9.09 - 4:02 pm

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come on... join the hype...

its Lance after all... Greg Lemond would be better.... bet Lance is cool too.

I just emailed the boss man... i might do this and show up late...

thats kind of cool that you get to sleep in past 7:30am...



md2
responding to a comment by la duderina
09.9.09 - 4:04 pm

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7:30 is early?!

Fuck, I've been in the military too long.



merrickx
09.9.09 - 4:07 pm

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I think this will be a neat opportunity for a large Mass LA ride.

Let's due et!



Joe Borfo
09.9.09 - 4:11 pm

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Someone post an meet up ride so we can all gather up and see lance's facial expression when he see's the mass of ridazz following him.



madmike
09.9.09 - 4:16 pm

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I think I just want to be a student for the rest of my life.

Maybe. we'll see. Could be cool.



la duderina
responding to a comment by md2
09.9.09 - 4:16 pm

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griffith park is a short safe jaunt.... I've been trying to get people to tweet bomb Lance to ride the streets of LA with @wolfpackhustle forevers.... no response from the man though. He is big enough to cause some change in LA if he would get on board and start making noise at the politrickcians.



Roadblock
09.9.09 - 4:17 pm

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Im at work ....



OsnapsonJC
09.9.09 - 4:18 pm

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LETS meet at the fountain at 6:45 AM at Riverside and Los Feliz.





Roadblock
responding to a comment by madmike
09.9.09 - 4:18 pm

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See you there!



Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by Roadblock
09.9.09 - 4:22 pm

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Ride with LANCE ARMSTRONG
09.10.09



SEE YOU THARRRR!



Roadblock
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
09.9.09 - 4:26 pm

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Not like I have school or anything.



rayrayray
09.9.09 - 4:51 pm

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will try to get there before work.



tfunk408
09.9.09 - 4:57 pm

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do it...

being a student (being able to be a student) for the past year would have been awesome... (recession)

And by they way... if youre a student... shit, I would be up at 6am with a hang over, sheets of notes all over my bed, ready to ride with some people (and this Lance guy)...

just do it

-nike



md2
responding to a comment by la duderina
09.9.09 - 4:57 pm

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tempting, but it's just on the wrong damn day for me.



Gav
09.9.09 - 5:51 pm

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tempting, but it's just on the wrong damn day for me.



Gav
09.9.09 - 5:51 pm

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GAV x2



_iJunes
09.9.09 - 5:56 pm

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ok i want to go. anyone on the east side have a place i can crash tonight?



larsenf
09.9.09 - 6:02 pm

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ride tomorrow is all well and good. i'll probably go. but somebody should tweet his ass and get him out on a ride tonight!!!



cassidy
responding to a comment by _iJunes
09.9.09 - 6:03 pm

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I'll set my alarm.



la duderina
responding to a comment by md2
09.9.09 - 6:04 pm

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You know you liked it Junes



Gav
responding to a comment by _iJunes
09.9.09 - 6:10 pm

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that throws my route out the window



Gav
09.9.09 - 7:22 pm

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What was yours? Mine isn't set in stone.



BMFW
responding to a comment by Gav
09.9.09 - 7:46 pm

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IN!!



ChaosRR
09.9.09 - 9:06 pm

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I was just going to do something simple.

Fairfax to Hollywood. Hollywood to Western. Western to Los Feliz. Los Feliz to Crystal Springs/griffith park rd.

I've never ridden on the last part so I don't know how that is, and I've only ridden on Los Feliz once or twice.



Gav
responding to a comment by BMFW
09.9.09 - 9:24 pm

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Your mission--should you choose to accept it: slap a Wolfpack Hustle™ sticker on Lance's bike frame.



two wheels good
09.9.09 - 9:41 pm

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I'm in. I'll bring the spandex repellent in case anyone starts to break out big time.



dudeonabike
09.9.09 - 10:06 pm

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see you out there



Dedicated818
responding to a comment by dudeonabike
09.9.09 - 10:55 pm

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soo i was on the blue line back to lb and was txting some people about riding with lance tomorrow but the train moved and i dropped my bike and the der hanger is now bent so it looks like i won't be riding after all =[



tfunk408
09.9.09 - 11:00 pm

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Hhahah!

Fuck it I'm wearing spandex tomorrow. I need every advantage.



Roadblock
responding to a comment by two wheels good
09.9.09 - 11:37 pm

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is it going to be a fast ride? I was gonna bring my commuter...



la duderina
responding to a comment by Roadblock
09.9.09 - 11:44 pm

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DAMN IT! I'M IN FRANCE! OHHHHH the IRONY!

PS - ROADBLOCK: I have tweet bombed him at least 5 times about Wolfpack. Make sure to hit him up in person about it.



warrenpeace
09.9.09 - 11:50 pm

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Res ipsa, Ms. Loquitur.

Guys who can roll at 30mph, like to ride at 30mph.



two wheels good
responding to a comment by la duderina
09.9.09 - 11:52 pm

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I suppose....but I thought racers like Lance don't usually like to roll at 30 mph in a huge group of people they don't know...



la duderina
responding to a comment by two wheels good
09.9.09 - 11:57 pm

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Man, I can see it now... Lance passing everyone at 35mph and here comes Roadblock, totally mashing past Lance!!!



speedybrian2000
09.10.09 - 12:00 am

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pffff... Lance has got RB on sheer aerodynamics.



la duderina
responding to a comment by speedybrian2000
09.10.09 - 12:02 am

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hey,its not cavendish but ill be at the fountain at 645 fuckheads



mandingo
09.10.09 - 12:05 am

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And everyone behave, please do not ass smack Lance even if you are tempted!



speedybrian2000
09.10.09 - 12:10 am

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aw damn.



la duderina
responding to a comment by speedybrian2000
09.10.09 - 12:17 am

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Dang, I'm having to miss this, yesterday I could have done it, but I actually have to be at work this morning!

It's a gorgeous morning to be out riding - enjoy it.



mr rollers
09.10.09 - 6:32 am

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I'm not gonna lie. That was SO MUCH FUN.
Too bad I had to leave after the first lap to come home and get ready for work... where did everyone go after that? I did the first loop around the zoo, but a lot of people were just stopping there... did the ride keep going?



canadienne
09.10.09 - 9:04 am

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pics or it didn't happen



AIDS66
09.10.09 - 10:22 am

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The ride was only like 3 laps.



Gav
responding to a comment by canadienne
09.10.09 - 10:27 am

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three loops. i couldn't catch up to the main peloton so i waited for him to come around for the third loop and jumped in.



then i ate it trying to take a picture. ha



Maulie
09.10.09 - 10:27 am

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I did two or three laps... I dont remember well... I know I did one less than the people who did all the laps...I thought it was late, and to my disappointment it was barely a little after 8am.

Lance ended up signing some autographs, but it was kind of bummer because everyone swamped him. He jumped in his SUV... the crowd got silent, we cried a little, gave each other hugs... and then I called work to let them know Id be late.

THAT WAS FUN... especially passing a bunch of fat roadies on $2000 bikes.

I can say that I passed up Lance Armstrong on a ride (but dont read too much into it).

What up to Roadblock, Borfo, Dak, Dingo and others... cool chilling...



md2
responding to a comment by canadienne
09.10.09 - 10:29 am

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I hope that your "ha" means that you weren't hurt at all!

man... I wish I could do the other 2 laps... but I was still a bit late for work even doing just the one.

I had so much fun though. I wish I had a group to bomb those hills with every morning...



canadienne
responding to a comment by Maulie
09.10.09 - 10:50 am

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THAT WAS FUN... especially passing a bunch of fat roadies on $2000 bikes.

I will always remember the looks on the all the wheezing spandies when I thrashed by them up the hill in my cut-off shirt and jean shorts, blasting Justice from my speakerpack. There's a certain level of delicious joy that I got from that.



BMFW
responding to a comment by md2
09.10.09 - 10:50 am

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yeah... I have to admit, I take pleasure in passing a bunch of muscly men on expensive road bikes.

It was kind of like ALC in that sense, but with NO RULES which was soooo much better. Imagine how lame that ride would have been if you had to ride single file, and stop at all the stop signs...



canadienne
responding to a comment by BMFW
09.10.09 - 10:54 am

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Did you, or anyone else get good photos?

I was right next to him about 3/4 into the first lap (turns out MR picked a bad spot to camp out in the lot)... I saw everyone cut through the lot (cheaters)...

I caught up to Lance and the front group about 3/4 into the first lap... but it got really tight riding there, so trying to take a pic would have been dangerous.

Once he hit the lot at the end... there were all these funny people "running" next to him as he cruised up to his SUV.. I have a photo of some Asian dude in sandals running next to Lance, totally blocking Lance int the shot... i was like "what the fuck?"-- thats not fair, you didnt even ride.



md2
responding to a comment by Maulie
09.10.09 - 10:58 am

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damn doing a lap would of been the shit, i snoozed it till 830



Jeff Yess
09.10.09 - 11:40 am

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way too much spandex for me that early in the morning.



Joe Borfo
09.10.09 - 11:48 am

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I thought it was just random fan-dom, but this is really disturbing when a stick from Texas is treated and possibly worshiped like some kind of God.

******dragged from keyboard and crucified on cross made of old frames******



bentstrider
09.10.09 - 11:55 am

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I finished my beer about 1/3 way in the first lap.

There were just too many boners for Lance Armstrong, silly roadies.



the reverend dak
responding to a comment by md2
09.10.09 - 11:58 am

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heres some good footage of roadblock throwing up the wofpack sign.also one of the guys from orange 20 looking a little too happy to be on camera...
http://www.ktla.com/videobeta/watch/?watch=0777a0d9-18ad-4e30-aa61-c60cf5efbe69&src=front



mandingo
09.10.09 - 12:04 pm

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Woot, was so awesome. I'm glad I decided to come despite the arm injury, I managed just fine.



GarySe7en
09.10.09 - 12:33 pm

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I thought I was in a good spot to get a photo of Lance ending the ride... but...

Note the guys "running"... and in sandals (already)...

In this photo happy world.. I wonder what that photo means to the runner.

"I ran next to Lance and totally got in his face for a photo",

Im bitter.



md2
responding to a comment by mandingo
09.10.09 - 12:37 pm

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Joe Borfo
09.10.09 - 12:41 pm

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dap it



666
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
09.10.09 - 12:52 pm

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It was pretty dope. TWBG repped.... saw User1... Jvu.... RB, G7, and others... and I heard the Justice playing. Cool seeing MR ridazz out amongst the spandex peeps. Oh and.. the ped xing w/ those huge light humps on the floor surprised quite a few. Also heard someone ran into the back of a Jag. Park Rangers didn't know what was going on...

Awesome find on the vid dingo... throwing up the W!!



digablesoul
responding to a comment by GarySe7en
09.10.09 - 12:52 pm

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There's a couple of great pics of Road Block in the lead on face book...sorry I don't know how to link it here http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/photo.php?pid=8785447&id=755910719
Love him or hate him...he's more than a "stick"...he uses his notoriety for good...he's a hero IMO...even if he's not my favorite pro cyclist



TheJen
09.10.09 - 12:55 pm

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Jealous much? He ain't in the sticks no more!



TheJen
responding to a comment by bentstrider
09.10.09 - 12:57 pm

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Could anyone who attended guess the percentage of people who drove there to ride? I love that Lance specifically said 'Get out of your cars LA,' but doubt many took it to mean leave the damn things at home.

On a normal day in Griffith Park I'd guess that 50% or more of the people I see riding drove there...which is embarrassing, but exemplary of the problem here in LA.





bike punk
09.10.09 - 12:59 pm

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So is Lance coming out on Monday night or what.



la duderina
09.10.09 - 12:59 pm

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Joe Borfo
09.10.09 - 1:03 pm

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lmfao.dammit Don! you're BLOCKin' Lance! haha god damn look at all those roadies.



la duderina
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
09.10.09 - 1:06 pm

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Lance was in a car...

I think people came from all over though... I met one girl who said she was from San Pedro and had to work after.

I think its cool she showed up even if she drove.

But I agree in regards to people who drove, could barely make it up the incline, and decked themselves out, as if they were sponsored by their jersey logos.








md2
responding to a comment by bike punk
09.10.09 - 1:07 pm

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Thank you Borfo xo



TheJen
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
09.10.09 - 1:07 pm

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His balls must hurt..what with all those people swingin' off 'em and such.



la duderina
09.10.09 - 1:09 pm

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I'm sure plenty of folks drove...it's a work day for many and not everyone has a bike convenient lifestyle. Though I wish I did...I don't. And I do ride to training rides from Griffith Park to Ventura Coast...I haz no shame!



TheJen
responding to a comment by bike punk
09.10.09 - 1:10 pm

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W





_iJunes
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
09.10.09 - 1:16 pm

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*ball* lol...he's only got one ; )



TheJen
responding to a comment by la duderina
09.10.09 - 1:20 pm

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ahaha fuck! that poor photographer's shot got all crussed up. what a big jerk that guy is.



Roadblock
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
09.10.09 - 2:28 pm

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cool beans, but damn guy in sandals honestly WTF!?



Jeff Yess
09.10.09 - 2:30 pm

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So Lance when you coming out for Wolfpack???

LOL :)




ChaosRR
09.10.09 - 3:25 pm

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Actually that quote goes with THIS photo ...

LOL




ChaosRR
09.10.09 - 4:00 pm

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I got a good photo of Rich and Lance shooting the shit up the hill and then I stuck a wolfpack sticker in Lance's jersey while he was being mobbed at the end, I wish I could see the expression on his face when he finds it.



echo
09.10.09 - 4:18 pm

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excellent



Gav
responding to a comment by echo
09.10.09 - 4:20 pm

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+ une



BMFW
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09.10.09 - 4:59 pm

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I'm not talking about where he's from or where he's been, but the mere fact that he IS A STICK, body-wise.

Face it, I'm just one of the few here who could care less about the guy.
Yes, he won a hard-battle with cancer and such, but he's just become another celebrity in my eyes.
Just think of my thoughts as "shooting BB's at a freight train", because he's got enough fans and endorsement deals going around, nothing I say will ever hurt this guy.



bentstrider
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09.10.09 - 5:36 pm

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I drove, I got up at 4am to make the 100 mile drive down to LA. Sorry if that's a problem and I wasn't supposed to do it.

I could barely make it up those inclines but I made it. I had a tough time with the inclines when I did the ALC ride too. Does that mean I should quit riding?



mk4524
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09.10.09 - 5:48 pm

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i didnt make that comment about driving... someone else did (i didnt agree with the post, but joked about something else)

I just joked about the guys with $$$ bikes and all the fancy gear but couldnt do the ride...

no biggie, but yeah, I think the point is to keep riding.



md2
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09.10.09 - 5:54 pm

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now to deal with the aftermath: FRED explosion on griffith park dr.



_iJunes
responding to a comment by md2
09.10.09 - 5:58 pm

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PRO CYCLISTS ARENT BODY BUILDERS. WHAT DOES IT MATTER?



ruinedbyidiots
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09.10.09 - 5:58 pm

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He has lost some of the upper body weight since this photo for the Tour De France, but for being a cyclist, and a "stick", dude is pretty built, and some full body fitness is important to cycling performance.

Lance Weight Training Vid




GarySe7en
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09.10.09 - 6:13 pm

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I just noticed the no saddle unicycle in the background there, interesting...



GarySe7en
09.10.09 - 6:16 pm

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Stop screaming, you'll blow out your vocal chords.



bentstrider
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09.10.09 - 6:18 pm

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I see what you mean, but I've never really looked up to any athletes whatsoever for any fitness-motivation.
I just see these guys as overpaid, average-Joes that are extremely good at whatever sport they excel at.

Strip away the hype and glitter and they become a typical member of society again.

I'm done.



bentstrider
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09.10.09 - 6:28 pm

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someones jealous.



ruinedbyidiots
09.10.09 - 6:30 pm

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Go meditate.



bentstrider
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09.10.09 - 6:36 pm

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Dinking a beer, waiting for Lance.



Joe Borfo
09.10.09 - 7:06 pm

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Yeah, Michael you should have rode down from Santa Barbara, it's only what, 100 miles?!

BTW, I hear you did just fine on those ALC hills.



mr rollers
responding to a comment by mk4524
09.10.09 - 7:07 pm

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Armstrong! Why you hatin'?



Roadblock
responding to a comment by bentstrider
09.10.09 - 7:08 pm

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Why's it such a big deal?

I don't necessarily hate him like he needs to be taught a lesson, I just don't care for him all that much.
It's not like he's going to start crying if he reads any of this stuff.



bentstrider
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09.10.09 - 7:11 pm

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I've met quite a few pro cyclists over the last year...most in my experience are pretty humble and grateful that they get to do what we WANT to do nearly every day...



TheJen
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09.10.09 - 7:19 pm

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http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2578/3908575084_7783691fa2_o.jpg



Joe Borfo
09.10.09 - 8:07 pm

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Man he's ripped in that pic. That wheel thingy is probably how those crazy abs. I'm jealous!

That video of him w/ Mash SF in Austin is dope and would be super sweet if he did that with Wolfpack!

I give him props for riding with the LA folks. And Mike!! That first incline is a bitch and I give you props, as always, for coming into LA like you always do!! Hell... you did ALC!



digablesoul
responding to a comment by GarySe7en
09.10.09 - 8:12 pm

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damn thats a shit load of heads , didnt know it spread that big.




Jeff Yess
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
09.10.09 - 8:19 pm

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Shortly after this photo was taken Rich gave Lance the look and smoked him.



echo
09.10.09 - 9:16 pm

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Well, at least there was that.



bentstrider
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09.10.09 - 10:52 pm

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I think I got a couple of not too bad pics and a video that's kinda cool, if you're a Lance freak. If I have a chance, I'll post it up tomorrow.



User1
09.11.09 - 1:15 am

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That's Officer Lozze Bicycle Unit Division. More like Officer Lolzz!!!



User1
09.11.09 - 1:19 am

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What sort of hair-do is that for an officer of the law?!?!?!?!?!?!?



bentstrider
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09.11.09 - 1:19 am

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Armstrong jockers....sighhhhh



deesimple
09.11.09 - 1:20 am

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i believe that is more of a hair-DONT



Jeff Yess
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09.11.09 - 1:50 am

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I would probably be tasered, then hauled off for laughing my ass off at whatever that thing is on his head!!!



bentstrider
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09.11.09 - 1:59 am

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Yeah I really wanted to get a shot with the officer, but when I was free he was chatting with two other officers. The other two would have known what was up and would probably not be too happy with me if I asked him. LOL



User1
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09.11.09 - 2:07 am

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damn. dude's in shape.

I wonder how much weight he's using? I'm going to try some of that stuff.

wolfpack better wtfo.



la duderina
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09.11.09 - 11:37 am

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Thx for the pix @ChaosRR--I can just barely see my head peeking into the frame. Soooo nice staring at Lance's ass for most of the ride.



dudeonabike
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09.11.09 - 1:06 pm

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I was at this ride too. I'm not even a huge fan of his but it just seemed like it would be awesome and as a result now I can imagine when I'm old in about 50 years sitting around telling my grandkids "i went riding with Lance Armstrong once"

I started way too far back even behind most Midnight ridazzzzzz so on the first loop around I was no where near Lance and in fact i hadnt even seen him so when i got back to the start I camped out with a bunch of other riders and waited for the pack to reemerge where I blended in near the front, I managed to to move up the pack a bit to where I was on the far left right near the front and then we hit the big hill and I couldn't hang anymore since I'm as much in biking shape this summer as I was.

But it was still sweet as fucc and myself on my 300 dollar fixie in my baggy I bike LA t shirt flapping in the wind managed to hang in there with at least half of the "racers" a little too much spandex for my tastes but I'm a pacifist so it's ok.



hybrid rida
09.11.09 - 1:26 pm

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too much spandex



snowcone
09.11.09 - 1:28 pm

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I think that's a touppet actually.
This pic causes me to lulz out loud.

I mean...is that really the best we can get, as head of our Bicycle division of the Police dept hahaha



hybrid rida
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09.11.09 - 1:29 pm

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What’s with all the spandex animosity? Last time I checked we are all bike riders regardless of what we are wearing.



John
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09.11.09 - 2:14 pm

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Lance is built to conquer grand tours, he's skinny and ripped. Most of the best stage racers are like 140-150 pounds. You gotta be that light because you gain most time on the mountain stages.

I would have loved it even more if Lance did a commuting ride instead of doing laps in Griffith Park, but I don't think it's productive to rip on people for doing purely recreational riding or wearing comfortable clothing or even for driving to the ride.

I got up too late and missed the ride but got to see many Ridazz on my way there and while looking for Lance. I wasn't aware they were just doing loops so another rider and I went out to Frogtown before someone told us they were still at the park! It was nice to get a ride on before going to work nonetheless.



cabhauler
09.11.09 - 2:45 pm

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i was wearing spandex under my denim.

fyi, just because someone is wearing spandex, doesn't mean they are fast or even trying to be fast. sometimes it means someone is just trying to remain comfortable and stay cool. sorry if that makes you uncomfortable but keep that in mind next time you pat yourself on the back for passing someone clad in synthetics.



onethirtynine
09.11.09 - 2:57 pm

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p.s. 139 - some of us are considering going to Tour de Fat now.



Joe Borfo
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09.11.09 - 3:17 pm

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me too...

#secretpandasex



Joe Borfo
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09.11.09 - 3:18 pm

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I was wearing cotton under my fancy shorts.

fyi, just because people make fun of spandex doesnt mean spandex itself needs to be defended nor the act of wearing it.

however... i doubt, highly doubt, those targeted by the spandex jokes, were wearing spandex to "remain" comfortable (as if they were comfortable before, and only spandex would keep them comfortable) nor to stay cool (as in temperature).

Come on... why pretend like you dont know what others are talking about...

its happens in every sport...

fuck it... im a poseur as much as the next guy compared to Lance or the guy who can barspin his track bike.... who gives a fuck?





md2
responding to a comment by onethirtynine
09.11.09 - 3:19 pm

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I just look good in it.



Gav
responding to a comment by md2
09.11.09 - 3:25 pm

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see... now thats an honest answer... come on just say the truth... (dont hide your spandex under your pants -- thats worse than criticizing others for criticizing spandex -- imagine how your spandex feels),

comfort and cool? yeah right...





md2
responding to a comment by Gav
09.11.09 - 3:30 pm

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you are hilarious.






onethirtynine
responding to a comment by md2
09.11.09 - 3:40 pm

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the honest answer is - "I want everyone to see my cock."



Joe Borfo
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09.11.09 - 4:00 pm

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I've most likely only got "spandex-animosity" towards those living in my area.
Who am I kidding, nobody likes anyone up here.

I've yet to experience any spandex-hatred when I go to the LA Basin, simply due to the fact I never see that many people donning it.



bentstrider
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09.11.09 - 4:02 pm

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I see making fun of spandex-clad riders as equivalent to making fun of mullets.,

It's very easy to do, and sometimes very funny. Now if you see a good reason to wear it and it works for you, then fuck the rest and don't mind the silly joking, after all who cares what others think..however I really dont see any good reason why anyone would have a mullet however



hybrid rida
09.11.09 - 4:09 pm

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I prefer the "Guyver" myself anyway.



bentstrider
responding to a comment by hybrid rida
09.11.09 - 4:17 pm

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you may look down on the spandex-clad riders, but take note, they look down on you.



la duderina
09.11.09 - 4:29 pm

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everyone looks down on short people. HEY-O!



ruinedbyidiots
09.11.09 - 4:31 pm

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I thought that Performance video was pretty clear on the subject (no I am not re-posting it). Spandex warriors hate hipsters and hipsters hate spandex warriors. What can you do.

Me I am neither so I ain't sweating it either.



Foldie
responding to a comment by la duderina
09.11.09 - 4:33 pm

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I wear spandex and it keeps my vagina happy.



la duderina
09.11.09 - 4:34 pm

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cabhauler, sorry you missed it's fun to see you on rides.

I agree with what you say. I found on long rides, I like the padding in my spandex, it really helps so I can't quite figure out what the problem is.

Same with my having to drive to the ride. I can't figure out why I have to be negatively judged because I happen to live far away. WTF, at least I went to the ride and gave it my best. Instead of driving would it have been better to lie on my couch and watch TV instead? Give me a break. The woman next to me in the parking lot told me she hadn't been riding in three years and this gave her an excuse to give it a try. She followed it up by telling me she wants to do it again and now that she got her bike out, it's time to do more riding.

Added to all that, I don't much give a shit how anyone feels about Lance or why that even matters. At least he was able to tweet out a message and pull a lot of riders out on an early weekday morning on really short notice.

When I hit that hill on the first lap, I dropped way back. When I got back to the start, I saw a lot of people hanging around but it didn't look like the ride was over so I went on. Just as I got to the top of the hill on lap 2, I looked to my side and saw Lance surrounded by a lot of riders and followed them downhill. I brought the wrong bike, it had a mountain cassette and the most I could squeeze out of that combination was 33mph, those bastards were really moving.



mk4524
responding to a comment by cabhauler
09.11.09 - 4:34 pm

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moar of this, please.



Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by la duderina
09.11.09 - 4:34 pm

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anyway, i wasn't calling out the peeps who make fun of spandex. i'll poke fun at spandexed riders just as much as the next guy.

i was calling out the folks who feel some sense of accomplishment for passing someone wearing spandex. juss saying that a sheep in wolf's clothing is still just a sheep.





onethirtynine
09.11.09 - 4:36 pm

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I used to drive to the rides. haha I used to think that vermont to echo park was far enough to drive... but the more I went on rides the more confident I got just riding to the rides. It takes time to get into it... but it does happen. some people end up riding to the ride...



Roadblock
09.11.09 - 4:38 pm

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Are you riding to the ride tonight? See you there!

c'MOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN!!



Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by Roadblock
09.11.09 - 4:40 pm

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yes sir.










'mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!



Roadblock
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
09.11.09 - 4:42 pm

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I pretty much have no other choice unless I want to spend the better part of the day getting down there.
I'm still a little unsure of the route I mentioned earlier, but who knows.
30 miles of easy riding to the Rancho Metrolink station, or 30 miles of Hells Highway?



bentstrider
responding to a comment by Roadblock
09.11.09 - 4:46 pm

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Midnight Drivazz!!!!

YEAH!!!



User1
09.11.09 - 5:10 pm

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Adam, did you ever respond to my post about a route over the pass?



User1
responding to a comment by bentstrider
09.11.09 - 5:11 pm

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Here you go



bentstrider
responding to a comment by User1
09.11.09 - 5:14 pm

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I wuv you... #secretpandasex and I would go to TDF...but will be doing the MS 160 that weekend...



TheJen
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
09.11.09 - 5:21 pm

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Amen to that! Spandex does have function! I'd like to think I look pretty good in it too...I'm not stupid enough to show up in kits and on the cervelo at night rides tho...when in Rome. I did giggle a bit yesterday riding through GP (post L.A. ride) at a couple of hipsters riding laps through the park looking like sweaty messes in their cut offs, full messenger bags and t shirts...and of course no helmet. I love my hipster bretheren..we're all just people who love bikes in the end. You can giggle at my obsession with matching my bike, kits, helmet and sunglasses...it is pretty pathetic!



TheJen
responding to a comment by la duderina
09.11.09 - 5:28 pm

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protip: if you want to attract cyclists of the opposite sex, save up your pennies and splurge on some assos.



ruinedbyidiots
09.11.09 - 5:30 pm

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Well, at least the uber-roadies and myself see the importance of wearing helmets.

Whether it's protecting your skull from a crash, or a wayward beer-bottle, they serve their rightful purpose.

Now, if the padded-lycra shorts actually became somewhat cheaper, then maybe I'd start buying a couple.




bentstrider
responding to a comment by TheJen
09.11.09 - 5:35 pm

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You can get base layers with padding for not too much. Performance (no I don't shop there much) has decent cheap shorts



TheJen
responding to a comment by bentstrider
09.11.09 - 5:37 pm

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Haha...or just be able to ride your bike...that's hot!



TheJen
responding to a comment by ruinedbyidiots
09.11.09 - 5:38 pm

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I've still got to go in there anyway to get some tires for my only bike.

Killing the local economy, one trip down the Cajon Pass at a time!!



bentstrider
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09.11.09 - 5:40 pm

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I wouldnt throw the hipster tern around so loosely... that is reserved for a pretty specific attire...

this spandex thing created a buzz...

This my opinion about gear...

I dont need spandex to grab a 40oz
nor to grab dinner

nor to get to work
nor to ride 2 miles to Griffith Park..
nor to ride a few laps

I do wear chamois when riding longer distances on the trail.

Other than that... im in cut off shorts -- sweating, sure... but what the hell, I have shit to do on my bike... Im not running errands in full cycling attire... its like I dont need to wear speedos at the pool...

but some do... fuck it...

Hipsters? I didnt see any show up really....

Can we make this discussion about fat people and spandex????? Someone is on my side in this case, right???



md2
responding to a comment by TheJen
09.11.09 - 5:40 pm

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HAHAHAHAH You sir(or madam) are a hater!




hybrid rida
responding to a comment by onethirtynine
09.11.09 - 5:43 pm

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I am with you 110% on this. I felt accomplished passing fat spandexed riders. Apparently this doesnt make me bad ass though



hybrid rida
responding to a comment by md2
09.11.09 - 5:45 pm

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Lulz...in no way is it used in a derogatory manner...haha



TheJen
responding to a comment by md2
09.11.09 - 5:45 pm

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Sure it does...I have a group of friends who ride from SF to LA on fixed gear bixes...they are bad ass! It's not about this or that...it's about the love of bikes!



TheJen
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09.11.09 - 5:47 pm

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The Jen you speak truth



hybrid rida
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09.11.09 - 5:51 pm

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The spandex versus hipster thing always seems to boil down to an either or debate, but I think quite a few roadies ride casual dressed for some rides, but prefer comfort of spandex on most rides. I've basically turned into a roadie, I wear spandex for what I consider training rides, but if I am commuting or casual social riding I dress more casually, although sometimes still with bike shorts underneath depending on how long I expect to be out and how much sweat will be involved. When you spend a lot of the time in the saddle, the bike shorts really are a god send and help prevent saddle sores and chaffing. As far as I am concerned everyone on a bike is a good thing, no matter the type of bike, the way they dress, and yes even if they drove there, but I do think people ought to ride to rides when feasible. Ironically the few times I am in a car anymore is car pooling to bike races where riding to the race is a lot more than a warm up.

About the people feeling good about passing people who aren't racing you, maybe you should sign up for a cat 5 race and see what it's like to race people who are trying. You would also be surprised sometimes just how fast some fat dudes in spandex can be in the flat land races like crits. And if you don't feel like racing in spandex, I did see a guy in jeans and a skater helmet and t-shirt at dana point race. He got points for style, but he dropped off the back.



GarySe7en
09.11.09 - 6:34 pm

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why are some of you taking it so literal?

Do you really think anyone feels good passing someone in spandex? It wasnt a race... it was just a bike ride... and even if we pass a rider (shit in that sense, I passed Lance Armstrong on the ride)... come on... im not that delusional

Damn... this isnt a real debate is it? I mean seriously, there isnt a genuine deabte about spandex versus casual attire that is taken serious, right?





md2
responding to a comment by GarySe7en
09.11.09 - 8:15 pm

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I guess some of us just don't have anything better to do between work hours.

I know I sure don't.



bentstrider
responding to a comment by md2
09.11.09 - 8:46 pm

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If someone didn't feel something about the issue...it wouldn't get brought up time after time...



TheJen
responding to a comment by md2
09.11.09 - 11:48 pm

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I hear there was quite a few people rocking their I Bike LA shirts at this - way to represent, ridazz!



ephemerae
09.12.09 - 1:02 am

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i rock my "dex' in the bedroom ladies...



mandingo
09.12.09 - 1:49 am

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Why is SPANDEX an issue with some of you ?
It may be reversed !@#$?sexual aggression ?
as you get excited when you see the outline of someones ass.
then when you are unable to deal with your excitement you become aggressive.

and no I am not gay, and I don't think twice about what someone is wearing.
other than that rider is foolish for wearing street wear on a training ride.





Dedicated818
09.12.09 - 11:23 am

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Personally, I love looking at asses in Lycra!
Not crazy about rocking the moose knuckle in stores and art galleries, but, man, there is no better thing than bike shorts when you are cycling long distances. Even the baggy mt. bike shorts are too cumbersome for me.
Most M.R. rides, I'll slip on a pair of nylon shorts or cotton knickers over my bike shorts sos I look cool.
If I cycle up to the event (I live 25 miles from dntn), I'll get up there sporting the lycra, then put on the outer garment to do the group ride in.



Creative Thing
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09.12.09 - 11:50 am

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I think the main issue people have with those spandex suits is about all the corporate advertising printed all over them. That is the main thing that annoying to some, I think. Just saying.

I wear my secretpandasex all the time and am happy when I see those Ridazz Jerseys.



Joe Borfo
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09.12.09 - 11:56 am

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I honestly think what it is is that many "Ridazz" have a skewed sense of the cycling world as a whole and have this idea stuck in their head that because they get drunk on party rides and then maybe ride 5 miles to work in the morning that they are these big bad hardcore cyclists and they don't "need" to wear cycling clothes, or they are somehow "better" than the people who choose to wear cycling clothes, maybe even that "real" cyclists don't need spandex....

and I would just like to point out that most of you shake in your denim cut offs when someone drops the word "WOLFPACK" and they ALL wear spandex. At least 90% of them anyway..


I think that "Ridazz" need to realize that they are "RIDAZZ" and that the cycling world is much bigger than they are and that when people put on spandex they are putting it on for a reason (ie, performance, comfort, crotchal protection). I believe there is a difference between RIDA and Cyclist and I think the ridazz need to shut up and know their place. no offense.

Not to dog all "ridazz" but you know the ones I mean.



la duderina
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
09.12.09 - 12:12 pm

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That's cool. But what has that to do with what I said?



Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by la duderina
09.12.09 - 12:29 pm

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+a million



ruinedbyidiots
responding to a comment by la duderina
09.12.09 - 12:33 pm

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Plus - can you think of anything better than a "happy vagina"!!!



adventurich
responding to a comment by la duderina
09.12.09 - 2:42 pm

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a happy wet vagina?



John
responding to a comment by adventurich
09.12.09 - 3:36 pm

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I honestly think what it is is that many "Ridazz" have a skewed sense of the cycling world as a whole and have this idea stuck in their head that because they get drunk on party rides and then maybe ride 5 miles to work in the morning that they are these big bad hardcore cyclists and they don't "need" to wear cycling clothes, or they are somehow "better" than the people who choose to wear cycling clothes, maybe even that "real" cyclists don't need spandex....

and I would just like to point out that most of you shake in your denim cut offs when someone drops the word "WOLFPACK" and they ALL wear spandex. At least 90% of them anyway..


I think that "Ridazz" need to realize that they are "RIDAZZ" and that the cycling world is much bigger than they are and that when people put on spandex they are putting it on for a reason (ie, performance, comfort, crotchal protection). I believe there is a difference between RIDA and Cyclist and I think the ridazz need to shut up and know their place. no offense.


I'm pretty sure there's a grain of truth in here somewhere, but I'm not sure it's worth digging through the layers of pretentious bullshit to get to it.



PC
responding to a comment by la duderina
09.12.09 - 3:50 pm

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...



Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by PC
09.12.09 - 4:34 pm

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You're accusing your biggest fan of "pretentious bullshit"? That's some tough love, man.

You need to get back on your bike soon, "Diamond"!



mr rollers
responding to a comment by PC
09.12.09 - 11:01 pm

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I think Poser Cyclist feels a little guilty..



la duderina
responding to a comment by PC
09.13.09 - 12:48 am

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I didn't get to be the beloved figure I am by being a wimp, Mr. R.



PC
responding to a comment by mr rollers
09.13.09 - 12:54 am

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pot meet kettle..



la duderina
responding to a comment by PC
09.13.09 - 10:38 am

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Explain your metaphor.



PC
responding to a comment by la duderina
09.13.09 - 12:57 pm

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It's sexual.



Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by PC
09.13.09 - 1:01 pm

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I'll kettle your pot.



PC
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
09.13.09 - 1:07 pm

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G-d bless the netherlands. You can spend an entire week there, see thousands of serious cyclists and not a spandex kit to be found. :)



Roadblock
09.13.09 - 2:46 pm

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dayum! Is this conversation still going on?

What's the big deal? I wore my chamois and MR jersey to this ride. If I'm riding to ride and not to socialize or commute, I go for comfort. Had I thought Mr. Armstrong would take us to the nearest 7/11 at a breezy 10mph, I'd have dressed accordingly.



canadienne
09.13.09 - 3:44 pm

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Meh.



palucha66
09.13.09 - 4:15 pm

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Its funny it turned into a SPANDEX discussion... when I think some of were joking about the whole package (no pun intended)...

I thought it was clearly about people showing up to rides, not only decked out in $$$$ gear.. (cycling gear is expensive you know)... but in a $$$$ bike, shoes, sunglasses, helmet... and brought their powergel for the second lap.

I think it was a joke about them... and like I said every sport has their "freds"... i believe i am one.

anyhow... i don think it was really anything against spandex, just as it wasnt anything agianst carbon frames and dura-ace. Ill ride a carbon frame (i wont buy one).... but like spandex, i wont ride my carbon frame to grab a 40oz, or some Coconut Thai Ice Tea scoops of ice cream.

recall the attached ride?

"Don your sponsored team jersey, your Puma® cap, and your Chrome® Messenger pants with reticulated knee, and grab a Red Bull® and a Clif Bar®... It’s a hostile takeover with Midnight Ridazz® cornering the market on branded bike culture! We’re buying what they’re selling, but you can’t put a price on FUN™ (studies are inconclusive). Capitalize and get your share before the market takes a turn..."



md2
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09.13.09 - 4:27 pm

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i should have noted... it was the $$$$ guys... but had trouble doing the ride or just brought their stuff to show off in the lot.



md2
09.13.09 - 4:30 pm

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Doubtfull that the serious Euro racers are wearing street clothes.



Dedicated818
responding to a comment by Roadblock
09.13.09 - 6:09 pm

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They are as much "serious cyclists" as these millions of motorists in LA are "serious drivers."



la duderina
responding to a comment by Roadblock
09.13.09 - 6:33 pm

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Wow. What is the internet equivalent of spandex? Are you guys wearing it right now? Because this is a serious forum discussion.



nathansnider
09.13.09 - 6:54 pm

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Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by la duderina
09.13.09 - 7:25 pm

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one of them is doing it wrong



onemanstrash
09.13.09 - 7:28 pm

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la duderina
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09.13.09 - 7:29 pm

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I guess my point was that you can be a serious cyclist dressed in civilian garb too.

Wp wasn't originally intended to be a Spandex fest. It was not a race. Ha. But spandex gets you that extra edge. Can't blame people for wearing. I wear em on long trips and wp. Most of the time under my dickies but sometimes I like to go butt tight on that azz.



Roadblock
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09.13.09 - 11:01 pm

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Ooops that was for dudereena



Roadblock
09.13.09 - 11:04 pm

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I suppose attitude is everything.



la duderina
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09.14.09 - 12:24 am

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Yeah I've heard stories of old school wolfpack...pounding Sparks before the ride, enormous clouds of smoke emanating from the crowd of street-clothed bikers.

But there's a lot less of that now.. And I believe I am correct in saying that wolfpack is faster now than it was before, yes?...and in a way, more serious than it was before? Just as there's more spandex as there was before?





la duderina
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09.14.09 - 12:48 am

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more spandex *than* before.

My point is, there's a relationship here.



la duderina
09.14.09 - 12:49 am

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But is it a causal relationship or merely a correlative one? Hmm? Hmm?



PC
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09.14.09 - 12:56 am

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Depends.



la duderina
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09.14.09 - 1:01 am

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Actually, it's causal.



la duderina
09.14.09 - 1:02 am

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You really believe this? And, as a possibly related question: are you pretty high right now?



PC
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09.14.09 - 1:04 am

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Actually, let me clarify.

Which way do you believe the causal arrow points: from spandex to fastness, or the other way around? If the latter, then please disregard the question about being high.



PC
09.14.09 - 1:06 am

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When in Wolfpack's case it is a correlative relationship

But let us say someone who was not serious about cycling suddenly decides to get serious and goes out and buys spandex. In this case, you could say there's a causal relationship.





la duderina
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09.14.09 - 1:07 am

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Spandex has little bearing on 'fastness,' or speed, if you will. I'm talking spandex and seriousness.

and yes I am, as a matter of fucking fact.



la duderina
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09.14.09 - 1:09 am

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Excellent backpedal. I do believe I'll make a lawyer out of you yet, kid.



PC
09.14.09 - 1:13 am

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Ah, but is there a relationship between your degree of high-ness and your posting frequency? If so, is it correlative or causal? (Short answer, 150 words max.)



nathansnider
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09.14.09 - 1:17 am

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You may claim no such thing when you aren't ever around!



la duderina
responding to a comment by PC
09.14.09 - 1:23 am

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No, I don't know what my posting frequency is related to, but it's not that.



la duderina
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09.14.09 - 1:25 am

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I heard if you put a type R sticker on your spandex it makes you go 10mph faster



XPC
09.14.09 - 9:03 am

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The clouds of smoke were there but alchohol was never part of the equation. Sparks?! Yuck. I don't even think people drink energy drinks.



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09.14.09 - 9:08 am

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snowcone
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09.14.09 - 9:21 am

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Spandex or Street Clothing

High or Low

Casual or Correlative

Serious or Relaxed

None of it matters as long as you ALL show up to Tangs tonight ready to ride.




John
09.14.09 - 9:31 am

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studies prove it.

wearing spandex makes you look 10% faster


actually... i think it's just more comfortable, and it makes me feel sexy too.



snowcone
09.14.09 - 9:37 am

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i def remember driving to the tangs parking lot and seeing a few peope pounding sparks and 40s of oe. they didnt finish the ride.



ruinedbyidiots
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09.14.09 - 9:38 am

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"But there's a lot less of that now.. And I believe I am correct in saying that wolfpack is faster now than it was before, yes?...and in a way, more serious than it was before? Just as there's more spandex as there was before?"

If the argument is:

1. Wolfpack riders are faster and in a way more serious than before
2. Wolfpack has more riders wearing spandex than before

Concl: There must be a relationship between the increase in spandex, and wolfpack becoming faster and more serious.


I dont think this is an argument, as much as its a question of "what is the relationship (if there is one),

The conclsuion that does not follow is:

Therefore, the increase in spandex "causes" or is a reason for WP becoming faster or more serious.

or

Therefore, the increase of speed and seriousness, is the "cause" or reason for more spandex.


whats missing:

The causal connection (does causation exist though?)... you need at least another premise, such as:

1. Wolfpack riders are faster and in a way more serious than before
2. Wolfpack has more riders wearing spandex than before
3. If more riders wear spandex, they will become faster and more serious


The problem, is that (3) is where this whole argument started...

Wearing spandex doesnt mean shit -- it means you found spandex in a size that fits you (or you think fits you). Some wear spandex and sit in a parking lot, others wear it and ride great. others wear it and walk around malls buying burgers and soda.

back to work... what the hell am i doing?



md2
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09.14.09 - 10:37 am

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I'm sorry, but we've already established that the Spandex to Seriousness relationship in Wolfpack is a correlative one, thus nullifying your entire post.



la duderina
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09.14.09 - 10:42 am

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the causal relationship goes the OTHER way. Seriousness CAUSES spandex. whereas Spandex does NOT cause seriousness, but is only correlated to it.



la duderina
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09.14.09 - 10:44 am

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idk RBI told me that one.



la duderina
responding to a comment by Roadblock
09.14.09 - 10:44 am

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yo yo yo, yall smell less bad with spandex on... the smell molecules slow you down... yall shirts are all gamey and sheit. washing spandex is like, whuh, sooo YOU tidy. i'm going to wear one of those swimming suits them scientists are racing with. FAST!!!



neverclever
09.14.09 - 10:56 am

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I dispute that to the highest degree. if there were any they were definitely first timers if not just people who happened to be there... no one hustles drunk not even Bearclaw.



Roadblock
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09.14.09 - 12:00 pm

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i know.. i got...

i thought i was addressing that at the end.

my point is that it can be causal (i.e. the reason a rider is fastER).

it can be correlative (i.e. some riders progress toward spandex)

but neither is necessarily true.

parking lot guys show that you can be neither serious nor fast but wear spandex.

Wolfpack may be faster and more serious, but to simply say its correlative may not be the case either.

It could be everyone in Wolfpack had there wardrobe burned except spandex, thus having nothing to do with seriousness or speed.

whatever...



md2
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09.14.09 - 12:02 pm

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here's how the spandex transformation happened on WP. it was all Wise's fault. He started showing up in full kits.



Roadblock
09.14.09 - 12:06 pm

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Joe Borfo
09.14.09 - 12:11 pm

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So did he start showing up in kits because he was getting more serious on Wolfpack, or did his kit wearing make him more serious? hmmmmm. The first, for sure.



la duderina
responding to a comment by Roadblock
09.14.09 - 12:30 pm

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I'm gonna start riding in full BMX gear. pretty soon y'all will be wearing leathers and full face helmets. bahahaha



la duderina
09.14.09 - 12:31 pm

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I think he was getting more serious about competing in races outside of WP but you'd have to ask him....

damn. do you realize how many people started on wp, got into racing and excelled in that arena? riders climbing through the CAT ranks, we got 2 state champions, a national champion and who knows where the hell Johnell is but I bet he's doing something insane too!

the question is.... do champions gravitate towards wp or does wp churn out champions!?







Roadblock
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09.14.09 - 12:48 pm

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due et! all that extra weight means you'll get dropped off at chuck norris's crib before the first stop hahah



Roadblock
responding to a comment by la duderina
09.14.09 - 12:50 pm

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at the end of the day...

Dont most people dress as they mostly associate with?

Ridazz tend to have the same style....





md2
responding to a comment by Roadblock
09.14.09 - 12:54 pm

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preeeety much.


austin-powers-mike-myers-as-dr-evil4.jpg



Roadblock
responding to a comment by md2
09.14.09 - 12:56 pm

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is Lance showing up to Wolfpack tonight ?



Dedicated818
responding to a comment by Roadblock
09.14.09 - 12:59 pm

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we'll see in October....



la duderina
responding to a comment by Roadblock
09.14.09 - 1:00 pm

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shhhhhhhhhh we dont want 400 roadies showing up.



Roadblock
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09.14.09 - 1:01 pm

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While it is hardly my place to make this criticism, it would seem that you are all looking at things too rigidly (so to speak). The question is not one of correlation v. causation but rather one of dynamic equilibrium based on underlying structural relationships.

I would urge you to consider the structural model of speedy cycling, in which "spandex" plays the role of the ego, acting as a mediator between the demands of the super-ego (i.e. "seriousness") and those of the id (i.e. "your junk"). "Spandex" employs certain defense mechanisms that allow you to cope with the insecurities produced by "seriousness" and also shields the external world (with varying degrees of success) from the often inappropriate impulses of "your junk." At the same time, "spandex" allows one to express the socially-responsible demands of "seriousness" while protecting "your junk" from the ill effects that could result from direct interactions with the external world.

It's all quite simple, you see. You have been talking too much about "spandex" and "seriousness" when you should be talking about "your junk."



Sigmund Freud
09.14.09 - 1:03 pm

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I wear spandex and it keeps my vagina happy.



la duderina
09.11.09 - 7:34 pm

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la duderina
responding to a comment by Sigmund Freud
09.14.09 - 1:08 pm

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"I wear spandex and it keeps my vagina happy." -la duderina

Her junk is happy - We're all happy.



Joe Borfo
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09.14.09 - 1:10 pm

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dammit you're fast.



Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by la duderina
09.14.09 - 1:10 pm

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Her junk is happy - We're all happy.

lmfao. ain't that the truth!




la duderina
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
09.14.09 - 1:17 pm

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Well there you have it! Now do you see how easily the conflict has been resolved? If only more people would consider the crucial role of their junk, this discussion would be much more productive from the start.



Sigmund Freud
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09.14.09 - 1:30 pm

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Is this how the threads are in the roadies' forums?





User1
09.14.09 - 1:33 pm

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I would personally like to thank everyone who has participated in this forum.



buckchin
09.14.09 - 1:53 pm

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This thread makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside...like old times.. sigh..



la duderina
09.14.09 - 6:26 pm

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what if someone wears a full kit during sex?



coldcut
09.14.09 - 6:36 pm

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it's like a body condom!



Roadblock
responding to a comment by coldcut
09.14.09 - 6:37 pm

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that depends on what you mean by "full kit"



la duderina
responding to a comment by coldcut
09.14.09 - 6:40 pm

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LOL!!

will it boost your sexual performance, or are you wearing it because you're already that good?



coldcut
09.14.09 - 6:46 pm

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that's for me to know....



la duderina
responding to a comment by coldcut
09.14.09 - 6:49 pm

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knowing is half the battle.



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