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Hell yeah. Great route. I love dark westside residential streets and picking up random bike riders along the way. Dance party on the pier with watergun homies was GOLD! Riding the sunrise home east is amazing.
SKD, I don't know who you are but thank you for the "thank you" but I feel I need to clarify something. When the Culver City Cops asked J to step over to the cop car for questioning the only one that went with him was WonderDave. Since I am Daves partner I felt it necessary to go over and see and hear what was going on. WonderDave introduced himself as one of the organizers of the ride and handled the situation calmly and smoothly. After the officer explained his position that he had to respond to neighbors complaints W'Dave explained who were were and what the ride was all about. W'Dave specifically asked the officer not to give J a ticket and said that we would leave calmly, quietly and move our ride along. It was at this point when Harry (and you know I love ya man) came upon the scene in a grand and booming voice agitating the officers and making an already resolved situation flair up again. At this point that's when I asked Harry to back off to let them finish their conversation(and thanks for doing so Harry) . I very much appreciate when you make announcements re: trash clean up and staying to the right. If Harry had assessed the situation before interceding it would have been clear that the situation was being handled in a calm and diplomatic manner.
The manner in which the Culver City PD was handled shows that negotiations and cool heads always prevail.
It was a win-win situation. We were able to finish the ride and the Culver City PD was able to go back to patrolling their boring and uneventful city. No paperwork, no mess.
You are very fortunate to get out of Culver City the way you did. Myself and many others I have come across, have not been so lucky. CCPD has a reputation, (and that reputation comes from peoples experience) of arresting people, holding them for the maximum amount of time before having to go to court(usually two days), and then releasing you. Usually without the D.A. filing against the arrested person, but the belongings of a person, money, cell phone, etc, being held forever as evidence. It can be real ugly in Culver City. I avoid that place, I would suggest that rides do the same, it just asking for a headache.
Everybody is free to do what they want, and take ride where they want to. I don't think I will ever be comfortable in Culver City again. I hope nobody around here has to go through the nightmare that I and others have gone through with their Police Department. They don't care about the paper work, they have to do something to justify their police force.
I watched the video again, and you are right. You kept the beer from spilling, so there were no casualties. It would have been a damn shame to have spilled that beer.
I don't recall reading about your ordeal in Culver City. Is it on the boards here? The person you are referencing here, I think had some warrants out for his arrest, and failure to appear. I think just about any officer in any district would have done the same thing. Sure we've had run ins with the Culver City police, but it hardly has gotten to the point that it's best to avoid this city. I really can't think of one area that has gotten to the point that it's best to avoid. I think it sets a really bad precedence if we ever got to the point that we come to this resolution.
I wouldn't even really call it an incident. Sure, the music was playing but at that point, Harry had it turned down to almost nothing I believe. And it wasn't even very loud while the track stand battle was going on. CCPD rolled into the lot and gratefully it was handled very well. The police stayed off to the side and talked it out, I think largely in part to the fact that we weren't looking too crazy and reps from our group talked to them right away. Well done and thanks for taking the high road and handling it responsibly. I was wondering if any tickets were handed out.
Unless I was completely drunk - and I know I wasn't, I''m wondering if you are mistaking me for someone else (probably not possible) My recolection was observing the police officer, talking to his buddy and asking him if he'd had a complaint and he said yes and I said ok we'll leave as quickly as possible which we did, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IN YOUR EARLIER COMMENT.............???? is it poossible you had a wee bit too much, just sayin'????
You never read about my experience with Culver City on this board. I never wrote about it. It wasn't bike related, it happened while I was driving a car. I have talked to people over the years that had problems with CCPD on bicycles, cars, motorcycles, as pedestrians and while minding their own business is an motel.
My post was a FYI. I just talked about having a bad experience and talking to others who went through the same non-sense. Like I posted before, everybody is free to do what they want, if they want to take rides there, they can do whatever fancy themselves. I know I'm not comfortable there (thats what I was sharing), and was just giving everybody on the board a heads up.
If people do have rides through Culver City. I wish them the best, and hope nothing every arises like the issues I and many other have had with there Police Department. Like I said before, they don't mind paper work. They need to justify their department.
Hey Harry, Dave here. Nope neither Crespin or I had too much to drink on the ride. The situation happened exactly as Crespin said. I stayed with Jared the entire time, as the cop asked him to walk over to the car. Crespin joined me at that time. The cop had Jared's ID. I introduced myself as one of the leaders of S&S and the cop addressed his concerns to me. He was writing Jared a ticket and I asked him not to. He said that there were alot of rides that came out that way and he supported them and they seemed like fun, but we had to keep the noise down. Once I assured him that we would leave quietly he agreed to not write J a ticket. The situation was resolved and I was about to let our group know.
That's when you came over and the thing almost got heated again. DS was videotaping and the cop asked him to stop, since he was cutting us a break. You came into the situation without knowing what was going on...or you would have known that it was resolved.
Crespin told you to back off that it was ok. You didn't listen to him and kept on with the cops. Crespin tapped you on the shoulder a few times before you seemed to hear him.
Funny, but someone posted some pics from the ride, and there is a pic that shows the happening pretty clearly...me and Crespin and Jared with the cops at the cop car. You're nowhere in sight, mate. Perhaps you had a lager or two too much, cause I heard you taking credit for the whole thing later that night.
um i was there..a cop came up to me a smiled..asked what was happening ..said "is this some kind of church thing?" and i said "noooo! we're just riding bikes. we'll be taking off" and he said "just responding to a noise complaint. you are pretty close to residents that's all" and i said "yeah i understand we'll be on our way".
he was so nice to me and i was blown away. another one walked over to jared and asked him to put his beer down. i don't know what happened after that.
i thought the cops were really nice and the whole thing was pretty short and we took off without a problem.
i do think a lot of times the guys get a little defensive with the police and that's when problems start but i don't think anyone was being disrespectful that night. i thought it was a fun, carefree ride and that the cops were decent.
can't wait for the next one!!
ps leave limefly alone. would you let it go already? i doubt that it was that dramatic. it doesn't matter now either. all that matters is that the cops let us go and we had a good time.
Great it is all cleared up now. The situation has been explained and we all now know it might be best to pay attention and listen to everything, that is happening before speaking up. I have learned something new with dealing with the police.
Everybody knows Harry had the best interest of everybody at hand, and didn't mean any harm. Everybody also knows that things look different, to different people, from different angle. We are all in this together, and everybody has everybody best interest at heart. Glad that Jarred didn't get a violation and that it was handled in way that wasn't an experience similar to mine with the Culver City PD.
I'd like to thank S&S for another great ride.... a ride that I always look forward to. The thing at the parking lot could've went bad and Culver City don't joke around... I remember like Crank Mob 1 or 2 rolling through... and they went all out.
Jared didn't get a ticket... I got blinded w/ the cops flashlight taking pics and figured I better go back and to see if I can get a pic of RBI falling again.
Harry has countless number of times been awesome dealing w/ the cops. I'm just saying that it's just a little misunderstanding and that it's all behind us now and... that it was an awesome ride!!
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Hey Harry, Dave here. Nope neither Crespin or I had too much to drink on the ride. The situation happened exactly as Crespin said. I stayed with Jared the entire time, as the cop asked him to walk over to the car. Crespin joined me at that time. The cop had Jared's ID. I introduced myself as one of the leaders of S&S and the cop addressed his concerns to me. He was writing Jared a ticket and I asked him not to. He said that there were alot of rides that came out that way and he supported them and they seemed like fun, but we had to keep the noise down. Once I assured him that we would leave quietly he agreed to not write J a ticket. The situation was resolved and I was about to let our group know.