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This year, and this year only, the fifth best camping weekend of 2008 is combining energies to make tSalton Sea II the ________________est trip ever! The 2nd Annual R2RRRR Poker Ride will be held in Slab City.
BRING PAINT for Jesus mountain or whatever it's called.
BRING BOOKS / MAGAZINES to donate to Slab City Public Library.
BRING TRASH BAGS and take your own non-burnable trash home with you.
These are all other people's awesome pictures - Spiral, MeandMyBlueBike, others. My camera died the first night out there...coincidentally, right after I took a picture of Borfo with his dong hanging out.
Elizabeth and I are spending the whole previous week van camping, bike riding, and hot springing ...somewhere or several somewheres.. Not Salton Sea but not too terribly far away either. Anyone have any other favorite spots in the out-theres of CA you would recommend? Say within 300 miles ?
There's a hot springs that's literally out in the middle of nowhere south of the place we're going to be camping. I was looking at it last year and it was maybe 10 miles on a dirt road off this freeway. It looked way cooooool!!! See if you can find it if that's what you're looking for.
DRUGS. For the record - DO NOT BRING SOME STUPID HUGE QUANTITY OF DRUGS.
This is why: On the way back is a HOMELAND SECURITY CHECKPOINT. There are these checkpoints on EVERY ROAD 40-70 miles from a Mexican border (why not from canada? because Americans are Racist.)
They have been known to strip WHOLE BUSES down to bare metal, arrest or detain EVERYONE on said buses, because the drugs dogs barked. Barked at the bus. Then they found an small, less than an ounce of POT. It took several hours for ONE GUY to claim the weed as his, but it still took up to TWO DAYS for many of the passengers to get released. Where were these folks coming from? A desert trip, just like us.
They will stop cars, they will search if provoked or have probable cause.
Don't do what happened last year, when one particular guy got so scared he ate a quarter of weed. That was actually funny tho, he got pretty high.
ATTITUDE: Bring your FUN LOVING self on this trip. This isn't your typical Midnight Ridazz social ride. Be respectful to other Ridazz, but most of all, you HAVE TO BE RESPECTFUL to the Salton Sea community. Leave your D.I.P.S.H.I.T attitudes at home.
LIST OF NAMES: Just because you're on the list, doesn't mean you're going. I know that, you know that. There will be a final list, but first off you MUST BE ON THE RIDAZZ CAMP MAILING LIST:
YES, you heard it. There will be a small fee this year. It will go towards to POTTIES, and other necessities. While, YES, anyone can camp at Slab City for free. You can't camp with US unless you pay your dues. This will be enforced, and there will also be a waiver & disclaimer, and a general set of standards that you will have to abide by to participate on this.
No one likes rules, but just like life, there are always a few. And if you know me, I HATE rules, especially formal rules. But having to deal with idiots like some of you, YOU NEED THEM. I don't need them, but some of you do.
Do you still love me? Do you still want to go on this trip?
we're doing the planning there. we're not talking about BM on that right now other than "tickets went on sale" and you probably wont hear anything about BM on it until way after saltson sea so when the trip is over you can easily unsubscribe...
"They will stop cars, they will search if provoked or have probable cause."
And they will not let you fix a flat on your bicycle under their lights at 10pm on a Saturday night. Even though they're the only lights around for 10 miles.
Who's kidding who? It's a BM group. Look at it. I'm going to Salton Sea NOT BM.
LAME!!!
Instead of building or using last years google group. The big advantage to this is that people can look and see years from now ((that is, if you leave it open)(like it's not right now! Very unMR like!)) what our trip was all about. They could use it as a resource. Now it's just going to buried in a lame ass BM google group. There's a billion of them out there. Why would anyone come to this current one? They aren't going find the Salton Sea info. The BM info better presented elsewhere.
Ok, User1, you win. I'm probably not going to BM this year, so how about you and me resume using the Ride to Nowhere Google Group? That'll be fun, just you and me, baby!
I understand where you're coming from. But I think a general Ridazz Camp group is a good idea, and it's not hard to filter out the events that you're not interested in.
But it's not a general camping google group. You guys are trying to sell it as such right now, but I ain't buying it. And it doesn't resolve that Salton Sea trip(s) should have it's own group for prosperity sake and as a resource. The way it is now, it's going to look like crap for the rest of it's life. That is, unless someone can work some real magic.
I wasn't trying to start a fight. Sorry if it was taken that way. I was simply asking when they are going to decide. Because I would like to be able to get time off of work.
Anyone can go, Stilline. I think in order to make sure people pay the $5 or $10 donation for the porta potties, nobody is going to get a map until they have pay palled their money. That's not set up yet, though.
But there is certainly no "they" making decisions about who can or can't come.
(Also, the fight is about the google group, not your question.)
"LIST OF NAMES: Just because you're on the list, doesn't mean you're going. I know that, you know that. There will be a final list, but first off you MUST BE ON THE RIDAZZ CAMP MAILING LIST:"
Looks like one of my girls is getting out of line again. Fluffa what did I tell you just the other day when you were servicing me? I'm your daddy, and you always like to make me happy, remember?
Now run along and make daddy happy. There's grown up talk here.
@Stilline, I think there is an expectation that not everybody who signs up is actually going to go in the end, which is what that was addressing. I hope everyone is as excited as they seem now, though. If all of us on the list can go, and can co-exist with the Slab City community and treat them with respect (which I know we can do), leave no trace (which I know we can do), AND have the amazing funtastic time we all have together (which I know we will do), this trip is going to be fucking rad!
Fluffa you're my best working girl. I don't want to see you go. It must be all the excitement of the weekend and all, so I'll turn a blind eye. Regardless I know where your heart is, and it's to please your daddy.
Speaking of vessels, this would be a good time for people who don't
already have them to go out and get a set of folding tableware. Last
year everybody was asking me about mine. Well, you can get the three-
piece set that I have right here:
These are the coolest things ever. I strongly recommend reading the
instructions and practicing folding all three pieces a couple of days
before you leave because it's counterintuitive, but once you learn it
it's easy. And write your name on the outside of the things, because
if everybody takes my advice there are going to be a lot of the little
fuckers floating around.
P.S. I don't think you can get these at REI anymore, hence the link to
an online retailer. Order now and you'll get the set in plenty of
time for the trip.
Drama
Glass bottles unless absolutely necessary
Water balloons
Confetti
Packaging (the stuff your supplies came in) that could be thrown away at home before you come out
The expectation that your parents are going to drive out to the middle of Imperial County on Tuesday morning and clean up after you
Seriously, this isn't CRANK Mob and we're not going to a Costco parking lot. You will be expected to clean up your own trash and to put your recyclables/burnables in the appropriate trash cans. If you violate these rules, Dan B will ejaculate inside your skull. You've been warned.
(Note: if you *want* Dan B to ejaculate inside your skull, just ask him. Do NOT intentionally litter just to get him to do it. We can tell.)
I *heart* me too, but unfortunately I forgot to make that link up there clickable (Google Groups does it automatically, MR doesn't).
So...click here to get your cool folding tableware. Seriously, these will eliminate a whole lot of paper plates and plastic cups that would otherwise have to be thrown away. And, really, practice folding them before you get out there. If you wait until nom time, you're gonna spend five minutes struggling with them before saying "fuck it" and grabbing a paper plate and disposable plastic cup.
Yeah, Allan may be (may be?) a big whiner but he's right. It's already a clusterfuck and will get clusterfuckier in the future (the FUTURE!). Also, it's slightly irritating for people who are not going to burning man to have their inboxes (har har) jammed full of emails about it.
hey Dak, quit the privatizing the Ridazz experience and bring the discussion back here for everyone to experience. I can't be part of yet another cluster fuck of a forum. I'm about to kill facebook too.
I honestly don't understand what the fuck anyone is bitching about.
User1, I created the Ridazz Camp google group as a general RIDAZZ CAMP email list, the first trip just happened to be Burning Man. What's there NOT to understand? Quite frankly the Ridazz Camp at Salton Sea and Burning Man are similar in logistics and organization. What's the fucking big deal.
No one has to read or subscribe to shit. If you want to participate and be part of the Ridazz Camp, then join the list, participate & help out.
This is not some stupid ALL INCLUSIVE RESORT, this isn't sponsored by APPLE. We are the ones organizing this trip, and I'm the first person to step up and take in consideration all the shit that's has to be covered. If someone desires to relay the pertinent information to THIS SITE, be my fucking guest. I don't care, I've already done so myself.
There are too many things to cover, and it just will NOT work using the linear format that Midnight Ridazz.com Forums formats conversation. I'm talking about planning, information and logistics.
I will do one thing though. For you lazy fucks that just want to sign up, show up, and "party". I'll post the sign-up and camp fee payment information on this site. I'll also post the rules, and links to any IMPORTANT information. That's all and likely most all you guys will need.
If you want to be part of the logistics and set-up, and have some input in the planning, then please join the google group.
Otherwise, just sit tight and run off a batch. Sometimes you guys are just toooo much.
It's just a fucking camping trip, but a trip like no other.
and the only bit of information here so far are the dates and a list of names of people that may or may not go. it wouldn't be a big deal if it was 30-40 people but we're looking at 80-100 people and we don't want a few people responsible for cleaning up after any irresponsible people who can't even take time to read a few "take these things or you will die and/or looking like a dumb hungry fuck for not bringing food"
and don't get me starting on trying to organize a carpool list of 100 people on a single file column,
Good intentions are good, but a clusterfuck is a clusterfuck. Please consider branching Burning Man off into its own discussion group, as it seems to be a year-round discussion (it takes half the year to get ready and the other half to decompress). This is not a personal attack, just constructive criticism.
I dont know how all 26 of us managed to get to NYC without a google groups but it happened or did I miss the google groups on that? It just sounds and looks overly complicated I guess is what my beef is but I went ahead and joined and added in a line that I need a rideski....
Last year I posted all the details on Ridazz forum. But you cant organize things like carpool lists, and itinerary shit on a forum like this. That's why we use the google groups. Last year I was leading the trip and That's why i used the Ride To Nowhere group. Now we have come up with Ridazz Camp. We have our own custom Burn Barrels and community shade structures. We even have a Midnight Ridazz tour bus in the works.
We've been to Salton Sea, We've been to San Diego, we've been to Portland, New York, and Black Rock city. We are going to go to Austin, Davis, an many more places to come.
Allan is just being dense. He hates burning man because it costs 250 dollars. Yet, when we first met in 2005 we used to talk all the time about how we are going to get Midnight Ridazz out to Black Rock City. And Ridazz Camp made it happen. And I don't care if he is crying about it, I just ignore it. Burning Man is an awesome experience and this year it will be even more so for Midnight Ridazz.
Salton Sea is the focus right now. I will make sure I post all the pertinent info on to this forum to those who are to lazy to sign up to a simple mailing list. People who sign up are usually people who commit to making things happen and are contributing to the group.
This is an exercise of group dynamics as well as adventure and fun. Let's just work together to have fun and quit bitching about trivial dogmatic drivel. Come on. We've done this so many times now, and it has always been a success. Everyone has the ability to help make our rides and events come together.
Don, we created a carpool list last year for New York. I know, I didn't go. But I tried to work up enough attention to get a lot of Ridazz out there even though I couldn't go. Yes, we didnt create a google group and it worked out fine. Maybe you are right... I just I dong know.
Borfo I'm 100% in the spirit you know that. but you have to admit, that forum is a clusterfuck and calling people lazy for not joining and threatening not to put important information about the trip on here was just getting a lil mean spirited.
No one is questioning that there's orgnization that needs to be addressed. No one is questioning that there shouldn't be a google's group to do do this. No is questioning that Burningman is super expreience is some peoples minds. I am questioning why you chose this way of doing it. And by this way, I'll itemize it so you can easily follow.
1) why choose to use the Burningman group from last year? Dak - "Quite frankly the Ridazz Camp at Salton Sea and Burning Man are similar in logistics and organization. What's the fucking big deal." If it wasn't a big deal, then why didn't you just use last years Salton Sea group? Or why not start a new one? Cause it's a con job for the Burningman group for 09!
2) You now have a cluster fuck that no can or wants to use as a resource or as a reference in the future. If the Salton Sea trip(s) had their own group, it could possibly be a great resource for others and/or a great reference to show what we did. It's currently going to be buried with a bunch of BM crap.
3) Why all the secrecy? Doesn't that go against what MR stands for? Why does someone have to join your EXCLUSIVE group to see what's going on?
You guys did NOTHING in addressing these issues, but have gone off stating that there needs to be a group to do the organizing. Again, no one is arguing that there doesn't need to be a group to do this. There's alot better ways of doing this and we could look back in 10 years and point to it with some pride. (That is, if it's open to the public.)
1) Why the fuck do you think it's a con job for BM? IT'S JUST A PLACE TO ORGANIZE RIDAZZ CAMPING! Why have a Google Group for each and every little camping trip that happens?
2) Why is it a cluster fuck? Google has spent billions working on their search and filtering. Take advantage of that.
3) WHAT'S SECRET?
"Why does someone have to join your EXCLUSIVE group to see what's going on?" That's funny. THERE WAS A GROUP FOR SALTON SEA LAST YEAR AND YOU WERE IN IT! What's the difference whether it's name "Ridazz Camp" or "Ride to Nowhere"? Yeah, that's right, nothing, they're both Google Groups.
If everyone can't see this as a con game, then I don't know what to say. I know one thing, I'm not signing up to a BM group to go to a Salton Sea trip. And I'm not referencing this google for people that want to go on this trip. Tell you the truth, I'm embarrassed to point to it for them. I'll just point them to the group site from 08, if even that.
oh brother.... this is where I part ways from agreeing with Allan again.... I'm not attributing any "evil" intentions as to why all the google grouping is happening. just that it is a different kind of cluster fuck but no less a cluster fuck
1)This is not a just a little camping trip. This looks like it will happen every year. What's so hard about having a devoted google group for it? They're free you know?
Not only that, we might make something that looks sweet! Hell I betcha people might even want to visit it!
2)You already got people that say the current site is a cluster fuck. You even have a member that doing some work there that says so. You're saying it not?
3)And yes it's set at private. In my eyes that screams EXCLUSIVE!!!
anyone want to help make THIS site more useful? I hate to see all the ridazz moments go to google just because they are a billion dollar company that makes better more useful websites. ha.
Well, having online single documents with version control a la Google would be great, especially for things like carpooling/transporting equipment out to the Salton Sea.
anyone can update the carpool page or events page on the gg."
one person. but thats why that person is the ride leader and why I many times feel like google groups is a cluster fuck cause anyone can add anything and then its hard to keep track of what is official done deal and what isnt.
Maybe I'm looking at the big picture and others aren't Fluffa. When you grow up and my age, but too fat and lazy to ride a bike, you can show people the google group of the Salton Sea trips you took. As opposed to some folder in some BM google group.
I have a tendency to want to provide info to everyone and to get people pepped up for a trip. That is why I always get involved an do this even though sometimes im not the Group Leader. I have a problem thinking nothing is going to happen if I don't step in to help.
The "google group" is just to maintain lists rather than in a thread. It also has a great functionality as a mailing list. reading a vertical thread is not easy to do. Dak made the calendar post. I cannot change or edit it. Unfortunately he does not have the opportunity to be on the web 24 hours a day like I have a habit of doing.
I was just trying to help Dak make this happen, that's all.
Allan's attitude is really making me feel like backing off from helping. I don't see him contributing anything except for bitching.
Once again you throw up some BS about needing a google group. NO ONE is arguing that we do or do not need a google groupe. I'm just wanting to know why you guys selected to use the BM group rather than last years Salton Sea group. Every thing else falls in place after this gets answered. And by answered I don't mean another diatribe about creating lists are not linear. Or that it can't be edited, or some other crap as to why we need a google group.
I have a solution. Put a money order for $84 in an envelop and drop it into the nearest dumpster you find that has the following symbol painted on it:
In the envelope include whether you need a ride or not, and on the outside of the envelope simply write "To: GET Bong, Lot 49, Amboy, CA". No postage necessary. Thurn und Taxis will deliver it to me.
I will hook you up with a ride, luxury accommodations, and a personal bike mechanic for the Salton Sea, and all the necessary info will be delivered by Thurn und Taxis back to the same dumpster you used to send your payment to me.
better yet why dont we just migrate midnight ridazz.com to google? then I wont have to bother with the monumental thankless task of upgrading this bullshit site that everyone complains about.
Don't you dare, RB. Heck, the general lack of usability of this place is the only reason any of us have jobs. If we actually could spend all day on here, we would. But since it is impossible to keep track of what is going on in which threads, and how much of each you have read, some of us do actually get productive now and again.
User1 sounds kind of like a condescending douche bag.
Regardless of what the group is called or where its hosted, Salton Sea and Burning Man are both phenomenal experiences and great camping expeditions. They are also both YOUR CHOICE to be involved. It seems that the people who have stepped up to pull Salton Sea together are using whatever method they choose - thats the choice that was made, for whatever reason.
Go or don't go - your choice. Leave the Grumpy Old Man at home though.
You're a douchbag, at least I still have my youth. Why are you on this board if we are all adolescents? Seems like you are out of place by your own admission.
I saw what PC and Roadblock were talking about, and i adjusted my stance appropriately. As has been said by both borfo AND me, i will be posting ALL pertinent information on this site.
I still don't understand what User1, on the otherhand, is griping about.
For the record, I like using a Google group: the editable carpool lists alone are worth their virtual weight in virtual gold. I also like consolidation: there's no reason a person should have to join a new group every single time there's a camping trip. I just don't like excessive consolidation: two major, yearly recurring trips are too much for one group. It defeats the purpose of consolidation, which purportedly was to make things easier for people. I don't know what the fuck Allan is talking about, either.
I never knew organizing a trip could be so much fun.
Nothing is more important then a name or a GG Allen, when planning a outing
I will let you all know at the last minute if I will be attending.
I want no part of this planning
What is most important in this whole conversation is what WWMD.
Thats right, what would Marino Do. Is Marino going to do what he always does and provide toilets.
This among many reasons as why Marino is a ten. He always provides, gives, and gives what is needed most, a place to shit.
(yeah I know, some of you think this forum is a place for you to take a dump. It is not, stop doing it). He brings "it" and when I say "it" I mean toilets.
Dan B stop trying to be a ten. Marino is the ten around here, like Bo Dereck. In case you haven't heard yet Mr. B this whole forum hates you. Why do they hate you, you ask? Because the Shues says so. Shues rulz. theshules=ROTY elect.
Damn it! I joined that google group because I thought it was about bike rides that camp and camping trips that ride bikes and I like to do both. Now I come to find out I've been tricked into going to Burning Man by that sneaky evil Rev. Dak ! This is an outrage ! ! !
I'm currently looking into whether I can legally avoid going to Burning Man or if I'm now obligated to buy a $300 ticket and cover myself in mud and glitter. I'll let you all know what happens when my lawyer calls back. We may have a class-action suit here people. Stand by.
Wait! Don't leave the group! Gripe about having to join the group to see what it's all about. Tell them it's very un-Midnight Ridazz like! Get back to us!
Bad news folks. My lawyer called and apparently by joining that group I am now required to attend Burning Man this year. Not only that but it has been suggested that I move out of my house immediately and into a structure made entirely of PVC and glowsticks. Bummer. I'm not sure if there are any shirt-cocking requirements but if I find out more I'll report back.
I certainly don't speak for the organizers, but I am just fucking sick of the whining that no one has answered your questions, Al. So, I've taken the time to digest what I have gleaned from this discussion, to make your life easier. You're welcome.
1) why choose to use the Burningman group from last year?
A - because it was intended as general camping list
B - because many of the logistics are the same
C - because the same people who organized that are organizing this
Answer A is admittedly questionable, but B & C do seem convincing enough. Plus, while I don't have any interest in BM, there has been almost no talk of it on that list since I signed up (1 threaded conversation out of, maybe 6 total). Any talk of "conspiracy" just sounds ridiculous.
2) You now have a cluster fuck that no can or wants to use as a resource or as a reference in the future. If the Salton Sea trip(s) had their own group, it could possibly be a great resource for others and/or a great reference to show what we did.
I can only imagine you think Google Groups is a clusterfuck because you don't use Gmail or another auto-threading mail service. If you did, you would find that the multiple messages are easily organized in your inbox. Alternatively, you can sign up for the group and choose to see no emails. That way, you can read the threads, but not receive a billion emails (note: email load does not actually approach a billion). As for the group page itself, it seems that someone has already organized that quite nicely.
As for "posterity," while I think the future importance of threaded messages about cleaning up your own trash is highly questionable, I see no reason why "posterity" won't understand that BM and Salton Sea (and NY and any other future trips) are related but different. Just because YOU don't want to be involved in one, doesn't mean they have to be treated separately (see question 1).
3) Why all the secrecy? Doesn't that go against what MR stands for? Why does someone have to join your EXCLUSIVE group to see what's going on?
ANYONE can sign up. Plus, they've already said they will post all important details here. Perhaps you don't understand the meaning of the word "exclusive"?
As far as I am concerned, people COULD organize this trip completely on MR, but there are many reasons why Google Groups makes more sense. And, in the end, that is the way the organizers want to do it. If you don't like it, organize your own trip.
An MidnightRidazz MediaWiki(http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki), and MailMan(http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/) mailinglist could be useful for this sort of thing, and beyond.
@Sexy What can I say? I blush. Although don't expect free toilets like in Toy Ride.That was for charity. This time we got to pay for them.
@royalacademy Sean, I can't believe you took User1 seriously and spent all that time to answer him. He's not worthy.
@user1 Al WTF I'm gonna do with you? There are people who have a contract out for you. I can't protect you forever. You are giving us old peeps a bad name.
OLD GRUMPY MEN IS THE NEW HIPSTERS, BITCHES.
THE GRUMPINESS IS IRONIC.
attn: i ask of you nicely to stop posting long ass messages complaining about your problems with HOW the trip is organized, and trying to defend yourself for being old and grumpy. im trying to update myself on whats going on and read what people need and have extra of. i have a hard enough time focusing on what i came here for in the first place. soooo, heres what i discovered i had in my house for who needs stuff.
-3 kinda VERY OK conditioned mnt bikes, as in i don't know if you'll last 40 miles on them, but they are mnt bikes. who ever really needs some can come over and test them out to see if they like. you can change some parts on them to suite yourself better
-2 tents. one of which is very large.
-camping stove
-lantern.
-if there is internet i can bring my laptop and we can post on midnight ridazz how much fun we are having and how we are all soooooooooooo fucked up and it;s liek the revolution and if we find cool plants we an google them. um emergency mapquesting? i don't know, i guess i'd rather do with out the fucking internet for a few days but it's up to other people if we want/need it for anyteeng.
Your response to question 1 can just as easily be made to have used the Salton Sea google group. And for the record, NO BODY is saying that there shouldn't be a google group to organize this, so can we dispense with the advantages of using a google group? Anyways the Salton Sea group was already established, there was logistics that needed to be created, it was there from last year. People that are organizing this last year, are doing it this year. Third point you made, it (the BM google group) was intended as a general list for MR camping events. That's what it's being sold as now. This was created for BM organizing and that's it's primary objective. Yeah there hasn't been any talk about BM since you joined, but how long have been a member? My guess is a week or so. Regardless, it's still a BM organizing group that has taken under it's wing the Salton Sea group. There's no denying this.
What's the big deal about this, some might be saying? It's a big deal if you want people to discover what you've done and where you've been. It's a big deal if you want to reference this to others that may have not gone. That is now currently deleted by our friend Borfo. The google from the first Salton Sea trip can't even be referenced anymore. cached link What's the big deal? Why do this Borfo?
You might argue that people may not want to read up about our trash situation out there, but who are we to judge what someone would find valuable in reading the group messages?
Again I'm asking, why wasn't the Salton Sea google group used from last year?
NO ONE said Google groups is a cluster fuck. They said that the BM google group was cluster fuck. You had four people here yesterday say the group was a cluster fuck. It was a cluster fuck. They since then did some editing and it looks better. Still doesn't do a thing for anyone that wants to do some research for this area. Still is a folder in the BM google group. To hell with posterity seems to be the order of the day.
And finally the issue of exclusivity. I don't consider having to join a group as they currently have it, as being open. My idea of being open is how this forum is setup. That my friend is open. LAfixed is not open, MR is open, yeah? Sure they'll post details here, if and what THEY deem we need to know. Why can't we see all the discussion going on like you do here? That's being exclusive. Perhaps you don't understand the meaning of the word "exclusive"? Look it up and get back to me.
Let me summarize the points cause some people have a hard time following.
1) Why use the BM google group as opposed to the Salton Sea google group?
2) Why diminish the significants of this trip by relegating it to a folder of another google group?
@user1 Thanks for sumarizing your questions?
1+2 is basically the same.
Q: Why move last year's Salton Sea google Group to the Ridazz Google Group?
A: To consolidate all travelling google groups and not have to make a new one for each trip.
3) Q: Why the group is closed to the public.
Name one person who has been excluded. Nobody. The reason from making it inaccessible to the whole wide web is that it becomes instantly searchable. We post our telephone lists there, home addresses for ride pick ups and other personal items that shouldn't be in a public forum.
Actually, you guise are wrong. I personally said that any google group is as much of a clusterfuck as this site. I hate google groups but that's just cause I don't know the system yet... I'm part of a fucking poker google group and I still can't just go on there and see the next poker game date. Prolly cause all I'm retarded I know.
The other reason I don't like google groups is because now we have all this ridazz history going on and its not archived on the this site. Where will it found in 10 years? Will google just become the new midnight ridazz? That would be a shame. That's my fault though for not updating this now aged 2003 designed format.
So...... if anyone out there can help me find open source code that does exactly what this site does - forum, photogallery calendar and has a unified user database plus adding a ride wiki and perhaps an email list or email function I will pay you to install it and make it happen so we can make this love bigger. I have ridazz donations that I can pay you with. Come on php programmers.... open source afficionados... all y'all code freeques. Help me. Help us keep the mommas and poppas aspect, the punk rock ethos off of billion dollar websites.....
Posterity has been around for a long time (go figure), and it has done just fine without having every last word of every last discussion about every last carpool to every last event in every single subculture of interest electronically archived and readily available to eager scholars.
I think we'll be fine, RB. Don't sweat it. The site's fine. Obsessing over "posterity" is for fucksticks who can't live in the now. Ride your bike.
Oh you guys did it now!! My girl Eddie calls me up crying about how their treating her daddy and shit. Don't break my little girl's heart like that!! You guys are ruthless!!
I'll get back to answering this tomorrow. I'm going out to do some riding, and hopefully all you guys are too.
I think using Drupal would be a good fit for the MR site. I am typically more partial to Python than PHP, so I'd love to recommend a Python solution, but this sort of thing is exactly what Drupal is made for. I'd be down to help with installing, migrating, and theming. Email me, and we can discuss? courier@braydon.com
yeah, why do we need a google group when we have this forum? i don't want to check the google group every week, only to have to sift through hundreds of posts about User1.
news flash: we have our own MIDNIGHT RIDAZZ WEBSITE!
Hey Rev Dak, Cap'n Borfo if we start a new Thread one AL *( CryBaby AL) is Not Allowed...
Srsly AL if you choose to Cry and disagree with Google Group, do so else where, with-out Clusterfucking up our INFO Thread. Also if you want to Organize rides/trips etc.do so on your own and on your own Thread with-out trying to control the way the Salton Sea Organizers are doing..
I got love for Ya AL, But just look at how you've reuined this thread ! (See you soon Ol' Friend)...
@Beth
If it's the paint I gave you when I moved, it's enviornmentally friendly and NOT harmful if it somehow... uh.. makes skin contact. It's a water based acrylic!
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Ridazz Roulette!
when is this ride supposed to start?
Why the hell not?
Might as well use my 666th post for something useful... Ah'm in!
Oooh, that's right. I have a ton of old spraypaint too, plus a few stencils of varying quality from "the old days."
A message for 1st timers and reminder for those returning:
Sunset at Bombay Beach, last year. I'm sorry, I don't remember who took this picture. But it's RAD.
Yazza.
Yacht Club.
Tour from Leondard of Salvation Mountain.
you really don't want the dong picture on the forum, do you?
we don't talk about such things online, sir.
I'll bring Internetz.
this trip is going to be full of rain! hail and ice!