6GYC11 Hit and Run
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Roadblock at 05.19.09 - 2:15 am
Yep, I'm at county USC. Was heading N. On glendale blvd. Was in far right lane preparing for a change to left lane to make left at park. I looked back and saw a car approaching at extremely high speed. I aborted my lane transfer and the car swerved into my lane and rear ended me at about 45mph. I flew up onto hood and probably dented hood and windshield. Drive applied breaks and I flew off into the street in the right lane. My read wheel is taco-ed and rear of bike smashed.
I had a helmet on. I was solo. Rear light on. Reflectors on shoes and headlight on flash minewt night rider.
Dark grey sedan 4 door possibly nissan or? Modern car modern headlights.
I will find this mother fucker. I put that on wolfpack hustle.
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Dude.... so shitty.
I take it that 6GYC11 is the plate numbers of the car?
Find him. Catch him. Hang him by his vas deferens.
TheDude05.19.09 - 2:18 am
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ARE YOU OK? this is terrible. i was wondering why you weren't at tang's. let us know if you need anything.
cassidy responding to a
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05.19.09 - 2:25 am
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Yeah that's the plate. Fuck I think its only partial. Someone saw me laying on the ground and saw the car. I think he took off after it.
Roadblock responding to a
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05.19.09 - 2:26 am
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were you / are you able to call the police to take a report?
cassidy responding to a
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05.19.09 - 2:27 am
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Yeah I think I'm ok. I was wearing a helmet. My elbows and tailbone hurt but I think I'm ok. Dude was gouing about 45-50
Roadblock05.19.09 - 2:29 am
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@RB:
shit that fucker needs to die..or get hit with his own car..
i'll ask a few cops i know, actually a few regular police customers to see if they can do anything.
if not i'll have to use my bribing powers with BURGERS :)
tekmo responding to a
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05.19.09 - 2:52 am
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poor car, no seriously thats super fucked. hope you're okay
HANDBONE responding to a
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05.19.09 - 2:53 am
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Horrifying and infuriating to say the least. To take off after nailing someone is fucking unforgivable. I hope your feeling ok in the morning. What size frame you need? I got a wheel you can use, too (Shimano 10)
James
horse sense05.19.09 - 3:04 am
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Holy shit. Are you going to be at the hospital overnight?
Need any parts besides wheel and frame?
zombiefiesta05.19.09 - 3:09 am
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Damn I got the plate mixed up it is 6GYC11_
I fucking hope I got the plate right god damn. There was a witness who saw the driver she gave an ID to the cops.
I think I got really lucky this dude was JETTING
Roadblock responding to a
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05.19.09 - 3:11 am
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your bike and helmet are safe in my apt. near tangs. You can keep it here as long as want. The frame looks intact. I think it's just the back wheel is taco'd.
I'm so angry that this person took off. It's the most chicken shit , cowardice thing to do( flee the scene) man up and face the music.
You really gave me a scare when i rolled up and saw you laying face down on glendale. I'm glad your ok so far!
onemanstrash05.19.09 - 3:13 am
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THAT SUCKS!!! Hope it turns out not to be major serious, but it sounds fu#%king bad!
Hope you did a police report, or do one asap. They usually can do a license plate match with a partial plate number and the other info. Request the hospital to call the PD to do a report at the hospital.
GET THEIR ASSES!!!!
Stay Up and Get Better Soon!!!
X-Large05.19.09 - 3:13 am
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This is really fucked. How can people stop for car accidents and always take off when they hit a biker. It should be easy to catch some asshole like this, and i hope hes caught. What size frame do you ride?
angrytoaster3005.19.09 - 3:14 am
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Man all you people RULE. Thanks for offering me parts and so forth.
I'm just fucking glad I'm alive. I got thrown pretty far....
What a fucking punk pussy little bitch. I'm going to try EVERYTHING I can to get this motherfucker and make him pay.
Right now my lower back hurts and I'm starving for a tangs sandwhich.
They just took xrays so hopefully I can ge the hell outta here. I just want to go home and eat.
Roadblock responding to a
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05.19.09 - 3:20 am
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IF YOU NEED I RIDE HOME, 310-621-1869
STILL UP FOR A WHILE.
XL
X-Large responding to a
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05.19.09 - 3:26 am
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Thankyou so much bro. I'm still waiting to see what they do with me. I don't know how long this will take.... I got it man... worse comes to worse ill take a cab or a bus. Thanks though.
Roadblock responding to a
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05.19.09 - 3:30 am
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WTF
Did he slow down before he hit you and did it seem like he was trying to hit you?
larsenf05.19.09 - 3:40 am
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unless it was a vanity plate (i doubt it), all standard issue california licence plates are numeric, alpha, alpha, alpha, numeric, numeric, numeric.
"6GYC11" is probably the dude's plate, given the the "5" in "6G
5C11"
Candy Cane05.19.09 - 4:20 am
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At the very least, the perp should have their license taken away and then their eyes gouged out to make them legally blind.
Next thing we'll hear is "I didn't see him!!"
Anywho, glad it wasn't any worse than it already is.
Heal up fast and saddle up soon.
bentstrider05.19.09 - 4:26 am
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"Damn I got the plate mixed up it is 6GYC11_ "
shit. i didnt see this comment.
Candy Cane responding to a
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05.19.09 - 4:32 am
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He was coming so fast... I mean... it might have been 45 or 50 who know maybe more because I panicked and had a split second decision to move to get right and get out of the motherfucker's way. He swerved right into me full steam I mean I didn't hear any breaks nothing until I was up on his hood and hopefully cracked his windshield. He braked and I ended up about 30 feet from my bike where I came to rest on my stomach. He drove around me and the bike kinda slow so I hope to fucking god I got his plates right.... my vision was blurry...
Big thanks to XLarge man you are a real angel dude. Thanks for picking me up and driving me home so late in the evening.... we really got something special here in this ridazz community. Fuck. I'm just sore as hell but luckily no broken bones. I know for a fact the hood is crumpled, I felt it.
I'm gonna do everything I can to get this bitch prosecuted.
Wow.
Be careful out there everyone. Be safe. You never know when its your time..... these ignorant careless fucking LA drivers just don't give a fuck about you.
Thanks wolfies for taking care of my bike. That's the last time I take a shortcut. :)
Yeah that's good news about the plate format. Looks like I got it at least partly right. I'm gonna be so pissed if nothing happens to this punk bitch. I'm fucking steaming mad right now. Can't sleep.
Roadblock responding to a
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05.19.09 - 4:47 am
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I am so sorry Roadblock!
And I am also really fucking pissed! I cannot believe someone would do that and then just leave you!
But I am glad you are alive! If you haven't seen the doctor already, please do. I'd hate for any sort of latent injury to sneak up on you.
Do you think it was intentional? Or just an accident? I bet the fucker was drunk.
HappyLand05.19.09 - 6:17 am
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Oh, I just saw that you did indeed go to the doctor. Good!
Also, if you need any legal advice, let me know, I might be able to help. My dad is a cyclist and the Deputy DA for Ventura County.
HappyLand05.19.09 - 6:21 am
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I am hella glad you're alive man!!! *hugs you* What was the doctors prognosis?
Will keep an eye open for that car.
I am sooo glad you were wearing a helmet. I really am. Which is funny because I've never actually seen you wear a helmet before. Are you going to start a new trend?
P.S. people drive incredibly aggressive on Glendale (north). i purposely drive under the speed limit there because there are so many douche bags tailgating.
Wear your helmets people!! Summer is around the corner and lots of kids getting their licences and cars in a month!!
revolutionary05.19.09 - 7:01 am
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Lawyer up, bro.
When they track down this scumbag, you will need legal aide.
I was hit last December and chose to deal with the driver's insurance company on my own. Everything was cool until it came time to settle up.
Mercury Insurance started playing hard ball over the lunch money I asked for for "general damages" (pain & suffering).
I'm taking them to Small Claims Court now.
Start by contacting Happy. That sounds like a great connection.
I am overjoyed you came out of this as intact as you did. The bike Gods were with you last night.
Dude, I have NEVER seen you sporting a skid lid. Chalk up that to the bike Gods too!
Creative Thing responding to a
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05.19.09 - 7:28 am
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You must certainly could have been killed and a ghost bike would have had to been erected at the spot. This motherfucker better be found and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. To not even make sure that you were ok or even alive makes this guy a total piece of human shit. Good luck and thank God you're ok.
GodLovesUgly05.19.09 - 7:31 am
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dude wtf?!
thats really not cool.
that guy will get what is coming to him don't worry!
and most importantly, glad yer alive. with minimal injuries
ugh this is such bullshit!
aksendz responding to a
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05.19.09 - 7:31 am
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Sorry to hear what has happened, I'm glad you're ok. Hope you recover soon.
mattspeed05.19.09 - 7:32 am
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Roadblock, I am so glad you're OK! That is so scary, I can't believe what some people do, goddamn. Thank the bike gods you're alive & well, I hope the guy pays in all ways karmically possible.
kryxtanicole05.19.09 - 7:41 am
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So, so sorry you got hit.
The good...seems like you are OK...hope the guy gets caught.
alicestrong05.19.09 - 7:54 am
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I am incredibly thankful you're alive and walking.
you're the absolute safest rider i know, i can't believe this happened to you. You always say that cars are out to kill you, and perhaps you're right. Getting hit from behind at 50mph is no joke, you either have some resilient ass genetics or the fates were on your side last night. Something tells me its both. I still can't believe it. :(
we've got to wear our brain buckets more often.
If you need
anything lemme know.
I hope you can find out, and confirm that last number of the plate; and see some justice.
I thought about this whole thing for a while... im starting to think the only justice left is
street justice. i hope I'm wrong. Make an example out of it: sue the shit out of this guy, and get him behind bars.
You're so lucky, D. You could have gone
under the car instead of on top of it. I can't even think about this anymore.
Candy Cane05.19.09 - 8:12 am
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Definitely lawyer up. I am happy to chip in for your legal funds.
ephemerae05.19.09 - 8:21 am
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Don, man your alive because you have spread a lifetime of good karma just in the 4 or so years I have known of you... Your a good person... It wasn't your time... Looks like the cycling gods have more plans for you bro...
Heal up then get back on...
Rogue Rida05.19.09 - 8:25 am
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Ugh..... can't sleep. I'm sore as fuck.... I was lucky I think because the hood scooped me from under my tall ass..... I remember the hood crumpling and it feeling cusiony.... maybe he had antiloc brakes because I did not hear any skidding. I'm going to go back to the scene and see if there's any evidence of skidding - later after I rest some more.
Yes I always wear a helmet when I ride on monday nights. I had a really strong tail light and my flashing minewt night rider 2 and I had reflectors on the back of my sidi shoes.... it still happened.
I think I'm just going to start wearing a helmet all the time. This shit was so random..... I remember it pretty clear. I got really really lucky. Thanks to the bike gods and the universe.
Thanks for the kind words everybody.
Roadblock responding to a
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05.19.09 - 8:41 am
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Shit man, just saw this! First, glad you're mostly OK, let me know if I can do anything.
That stretch of Glendale is right near my home and I make that left often coming home. Drivers basically use it as freeway and the sight lines are compromised because of the curvature and slight elevation change of the road. I've seen numerous accidents along there.
It's bad enough to hit someone due to driving drunk, careless, and at excessive speed, but hit & run is just inexcusable. Let's hope they can find this guy and throw the book at him.
mr rollers05.19.09 - 8:57 am
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it's a good thing you weren't knocked out.
I can't even imagine the terror that would have filled me if I had seen it coming when I was hit.
Gav05.19.09 - 8:58 am
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DAMN.
roadblock, if you need some vicodin, i have maybe 10 or 15 left from my recent oral surgeries. if you want them, they are yours. shoot me an email with your address and ill bring them to you. also, if your bike is thrashed and you need a new frame, you are more than welcome to ride my trek. its big enough for you.
ruinedbyidiots05.19.09 - 9:04 am
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The Roadblock still stands.
So glad you are okay.
They fucked with the wrong guy.
Joe Borfo responding to a
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05.19.09 - 9:20 am
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Seroiusly... MAN did they fuck with the wrong guy.
I'm REALLY glad you were wearing a helmet and came out of this relatively well. You're so important to this community. I can't even express how infuriated I feel right now. This guy will be put behind bars... and you know you've got all of us to back you up. Awesome job getting the license plate. Even if it isn't 100% accurate, you did it. This guy is fucked.
canadienne05.19.09 - 9:24 am
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glad you are ok.
that's effin wack.
hope you get riding again soon, and hope that mofo gets the karma comin.
sciencefriction05.19.09 - 9:25 am
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Wow- super scary. I too am so glad you're okay - you're very lucky to have survived something that hardcore. I need to go buy a helmet. I got hit as as a pedestrian last year - scared the fuck out of me. This driver needs to be tracked down and prosecuted.
Jessica responding to a
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05.19.09 - 9:32 am
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thank god you're all right, and thank god you were wearing your helmet! im sure you're pretty banged up. can we bring you a casserole? i can't believe you got his license plate number after he hit you!
tortuga_veloce05.19.09 - 9:42 am
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that location is very close to where we put up the Ghost bike last month. What is up with that area?
skd05.19.09 - 9:46 am
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shit man. we'll definitely keep an eye out for a car that looks like that. fucking hell. soo glad yr okay (for the most part)...
neverclever05.19.09 - 9:52 am
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This is what I picture when imagine a car hitting RB.
SPOOK05.19.09 - 9:58 am
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dood, this could have been so much worse.
I'm glad you're well enough to drop more fart bombs.
spiraldemon responding to a
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05.19.09 - 10:13 am
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What is up with this area is that it's used as a corridor in & out of downtown because it connects to the 2 Freeway terminus about a mile north on Glendale Blvd. If it isn't choked with commuter traffic, it's cars blasting along way in excess of the speed limit.
I've lived above this stretch of road for 17 years and have witnessed numerous car accidents and even a pedestrian fatality. Yes, where Roadblock was hit is less than a block from where the ghost bike was located.
There are plans afoot to re-do the 2 terminus and people have also started talking about making the whole Glendale corridor more neighborhood friendly, but knowing the way government works I wouldn't hold your breath.
In the meantime, exercise caution if you ride this street!
mr rollers responding to a
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05.19.09 - 10:23 am
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RB, Thank God you're OK! Our spirits would have been crushed if anything would've happen to you.
This Wack-Job that Hit you has a storm coming at him.
Lawyer up and release the hounds on his Bitch Made ass!
skano responding to a
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05.19.09 - 10:28 am
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Damn this is fucked up! Hope you're going to be ok RB. Could have easily been much worse. You're an outstanding dude and you know we got your back.
That's awesome you were able to get almost all the license plate. With a description of the car, it shouldn't be that hard for the cops to track down the car. I hope all goes well with those fuckwads (some anyways).
Yeah, if they didn't give you pain meds, I got vicodin too. Post up what you need.
User105.19.09 - 10:28 am
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Fucker hit the wrong dude!!! RB WILL get revenge... he's gonna get all Princess Bride on that dude!
"Hello. My name is Inigo Roablock. You hit my bike. Prepare to die."
Don, PLEASE let me know if you need anything at all. Godspeed.
BICYKILLER05.19.09 - 10:33 am
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i'm so glad that you walked away with minor injuries. glad that you were wearing your helmet.
fucking pissed at the asshole that did this to you and left you there. we will find them.
heal up fast. we're all here for you!
tomato05.19.09 - 10:43 am
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You guys are crackin me up. Love you guise seriously. Feels great to be part of this big family of caring ridazz.
Just fed myself a big ole breakfast and I'm on my way to grab some wood and spray paint.... gonna put up some big signs and see if I can get more witnesses. There was a witness last night who said she saw the driver and gave the cops a description, so that coupled with hopefully an accurate plate and boom, fingers crossed this guy gets caught...
Sorry for my angry words up there, I was so steamed up that someone could be that careless and ruthless. The law will run its course and hopefully this guy had insurance or something I can sue for in a civil suit. I'm hobbling around cause I'm sore as hell but again, I got lucky nothing broke.
Thanks everyone.
Wear your helmets, use bright bike lights in the daytime as well.... you need to be 100% and even then something like this can still happen and it won't change until there is paint on the streets and traffic is tamed... wow.
Roadblock responding to a
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05.19.09 - 10:50 am
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WHAATTT TTHEE FUCKKKK!!!!!!!
Hey man, I'm glad you are alive. We need to make this thing a HUGE deal because this is one of the serious problem cyclists face--not just terrible drivers who do not know how to drive with cyclists, but drivers who hit cyclists and take off! This is so fucked.
HEY EVERYBODY!!!
Let's organize a ride to visit roadblock and bring him a tang's sandwich and whiskey!!!!!
who's in?
snowcone responding to a
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05.19.09 - 10:57 am
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FUCK!
Just thinking about how much worse this could have been. Freaks me the fuck out.
I am so happy you are OK.
Lets form a posse and find this Fucker and bring Him or Her to JUSTICE.
trickmilla05.19.09 - 10:58 am
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I think that streatch of 2nd/Glendale, from the 2nd. st. tunnel to Sunset, is one of the most traveled streets by bikes in the city. At least I always take that route when I'm in the area and I always see other bikes there.
Its a little tight along Echo Park Lake and the left onto Park can be tricky in traffic, but I have never felt in danger there. Now I'll always be extra vigilant when on that road.
"...You wrecked my bicycle, prepare to die!"...I'm rolling on the floor here!!!
Creative Thing responding to a
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05.19.09 - 11:02 am
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i think i want to plan a SHARE THE ROAD ride
if i can get enough people together, we can ride during rush hour.. splitting up into groups of 10 or so and ride along bike routes with heavy usage.
we will have signs that say "SHARE THE ROAD"
what do you all think?
snowcone05.19.09 - 11:04 am
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Justice sort of looks like this when coming straight at you at high speed.
Joe Borfo responding to a
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05.19.09 - 11:04 am
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Holy crap, I'm glad you're alright, relatively speaking, Roadblock. This is fucked, I hope you find the fucker and screw him over in court. The hit and run thing is really starting to sound epidemic in LA lately. I'm not sure we get it, but somehow we've got to make it a standard that hit and run drivers lose their license, period, end of story, those fuckers deserve to never drive again. With an impact at that speed, it's quite possible a cyclist could die, and he would have left you for dead. Rest up, and hope you heal quick.
GarySe7en05.19.09 - 11:12 am
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it's really nothing short of a miracle that you're ok. heal up quick, big guy.
tortuga_veloce responding to a
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05.19.09 - 11:30 am
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See, they call him RoadBLOCK for a reason. Fuck! I'm glad you're OK.
PC05.19.09 - 11:51 am
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could the plate be 6GYC511?
larsenf05.19.09 - 12:10 pm
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It could be. He has a few numbers possibly wrong he said.
Joe Borfo responding to a
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05.19.09 - 12:16 pm
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also if the car is old enough to have gotten a smog check there is a smog check database you can search here: http://www.bar.ca.gov/applications/VehTests/PubTstQry.aspx but i had no luck with the above plates, they either could be wrong or the car is just not 2 (or is it 4 i ca?) years old.
larsenf05.19.09 - 12:19 pm
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Feel better, brother. I hope you get over all the soreness quickly and with no residual effects. And let's hope for some justice as well.
hatehills05.19.09 - 12:26 pm
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share the road ride sounds good... glad to hear you are okay...this sort of thing makes me want to resort to violence. But make sure u tap that ass in court!
pretti*ugli05.19.09 - 12:36 pm
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Glad your not seriously injured. Still sucks. Hope we find the driver. Get well soon.
-Lon
tofuterror05.19.09 - 12:41 pm
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Maybe you can use this to get a lil' sympathy action from a certain Councilwoman who has the hots for you...
(And I ain't talking about no paint on the ground)
PC05.19.09 - 12:41 pm
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i think everyone has the hots for roadblock
and now with 200% moar bike scarz SWOON
=P
tomato05.19.09 - 12:57 pm
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really glad ur mostly ok.... epsom salt bath for your soreness? please take care RB and keep us posted. will keep a lookout for that shitfacedouchebagmofoasswipe.
redridinghood05.19.09 - 1:17 pm
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Let me know if you need a fluffa over there. I got three on standby!
User105.19.09 - 1:28 pm
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GOD DAMN, i'm really glad you're okay.
coldcut05.19.09 - 1:48 pm
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So glad to hear you're ok. Last night was such a good ride, too. This happened between the time I got dropped and made it home! Scary to read this, man. Just happy you're somewhat good.
They're f*cking with the wrong Wolf though. Hit them for all they got. THINK ABOUT THIS: You could be dead, for all they know. They would still be making the same DICK MOVE.
Are you home now? You need wolf-treats!
SKIDMARCUS05.19.09 - 2:24 pm
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Awww helll! WTF! I am so glad yr OK Don! I saw the tweet lastnight and didn't even think of it being a licence plate. I have a friend who was hit and had a good lawyer so if you need one let me know I'll get ya the info! That's right near where the ghostbike was right?
mixtemotions05.19.09 - 2:52 pm
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I'm really glad you're okay Roadblock. Really, really glad.
Ms. Stephanie05.19.09 - 3:05 pm
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Trickmilla and I Just got done posting some signs with contact info for anyone that might have seen something. Trying everything I can to get this guy....
Thanks again for the kind words everyone. It means a lot to me. Ill be back on the bike soon enough to ride with y'all.
Roadblock responding to a
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05.19.09 - 3:32 pm
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I'm amazed you got the plate numbers. glad your OK.
Mook05.19.09 - 3:43 pm
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RB gets hit by a car and walks away!! Dude your effing tough like a rock. Glad ur ok. Hope you get your revenge on this cock sucker...
Debut21305.19.09 - 3:52 pm
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glad your ok roadblock if u need anything to help find this car let me know.
tenaandres@yahoo.com
andres8405.19.09 - 4:12 pm
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lemme know if you find that car. I'll roll with you.
stillline05.19.09 - 4:24 pm
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i passed one of the signs right after a douchebag in an suv almost hit me
snowcone responding to a
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05.19.09 - 4:25 pm
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Maybe one of you creative ridazz can design the "lucky to be alive" spoke card, available to anyone who has had their life jeapordized by a careless motorist, or had their helmet save them in a crash....
horse sense responding to a
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05.19.09 - 4:39 pm
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"I was almost killed by a hit and run driver and all I got was this lousy spoke card"
tortuga_veloce responding to a
comment by ruinedbyidiots
05.19.09 - 4:48 pm
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Councilmember Garcetti,
I am writing to inform you that a member of your council district was the victim of a hit and run last night. Miraculously, he survived with very minor injuries.
Ironically, he was at the city council meeting, just yesterday morning advocating for the preservation of LADOT's bikeways program in this year's budget.
This is the 3rd such incident that I know of in that area (glendale between the 101 and Sunset) in the last few months including the fatal hit and run of Jesus Castillo last month.
I know there is little you can do about this specific incident, however I hope that awareness of this ongoing problem will lead you to push for improvements to Glendale blvd. that will reflect the needs of cyclists, pedestrians, and the safer movement of automobiles.
sincerely,
- Patrick Miller
trickmilla05.19.09 - 4:49 pm
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Oh fuck! Just reading this now… glad you are OK
let me know if you need anything… maybe TrenWay can come visit you and bring foods and beerz..
-e-
Kakihara05.19.09 - 4:52 pm
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Maybe tacky, but a visual reminder to other riders that helmets can save your life. I guess there's always ghost-bikes.
horse sense responding to a
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05.19.09 - 4:53 pm
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god damn I really DO feel lucky to be alive. LUCKY. I put together the approximate spot where I was hit and the place that I ended up. It was between 100 and 150 feet of distance.....
I called the detectives and it they really made me feel dis-heartened.... the guy was telling me it could take "a while" to look up the plate since I "only got 6 of 7 digits" I mean... I just feel really sick to my stomach if I don't get justice. It means it will be the second time I've personally witnessed a hit and run and nothing could be done.
Essentially... our government is BROKE. the detectives are so backed up they can really only go after things if there is a death.
Roadblock responding to a
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05.19.09 - 5:10 pm
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That's total bull. Well, I've got the plate memorized... and will keep my eyes out. It's a needle in a haystack... but hey, obviously luck is on your side.
canadienne responding to a
comment by Roadblock
05.19.09 - 5:15 pm
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i'm up for a posse ride. With a big enough group we could comb that entire neighborhood in an hour or two.
trickmilla responding to a
comment by canadienne
05.19.09 - 5:21 pm
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hey Trickmills thanks for taking up your day helping me put these up. I hope it will produce some results but even if they don't at least they will spread the word about what happened....
Roadblock responding to a
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05.19.09 - 5:32 pm
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TOTAL BULLSHIT 6 of 7?! mathmatically there are, what? 24 + 10 combinations? That's not much work.......
In any case, NICE SIGNS!
neverclever responding to a
comment by Roadblock
05.19.09 - 5:36 pm
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There's a bunch of little auto repair places all along the street I work, so just took a little stroll to peek my head in the garages. I'll keep doing that for the next little while.
canadienne05.19.09 - 5:38 pm
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0 wait, are there 0's and O's? and symbols now?
neverclever05.19.09 - 5:41 pm
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The signs are good and big and posted in both directions. Good work. I totally saw them on
My wayto my studio. Can't remember if I saw the date of the accident though.. I'm sure it's there..
redridinghood05.19.09 - 5:41 pm
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I chose not to post the date. If you saw something you saw it. and if it wasnt my accident then at least they might contact about another accident.... and if the signs are still there after a week we can save them and use them for another accident that is sure to happen again unfortunately because drivers in this town are never taught by the law to respect cyclists.
I'm not giving up. I'm not. this is NOT over.
Roadblock responding to a
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05.19.09 - 5:45 pm
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Wow, that's ridiculous!! Heal up well, Don! I hope whoever did this gets a hugeass rusty screwdriver up their asshole. Motherfuckers.
imachynna05.19.09 - 5:53 pm
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I like how Roadblock uses his magic powers to edit the thread title to make up for fuzzyheaded hospital posting. Nice work!
trickmilla responding to a
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05.19.09 - 5:54 pm
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Once again, he exhibits his omnipotence!
canadienne responding to a
comment by trickmilla
05.19.09 - 6:24 pm
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Im down for the posse ride. I have a nice set of shackles in case we find him.
Hope youre feeling better RB.
ONEpedalDEATHkick 81805.19.09 - 6:33 pm
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damn Will, why you gotta make me all misty eyed and shit....
Roadblock responding to a
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05.19.09 - 6:38 pm
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Scary stuff, Don. Glad you are OK.
I'm up for a posse ride to look for this car. Anybody want to try it Wednesday morning?
NixonTwin responding to a
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05.19.09 - 6:40 pm
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it's gonna be like finding a needle in a hay stack....
the detective told me to keep an eye out for it and get a complete plate number.
Stephen Box hooked me up with the name of a great bicycle advocate detective, I will hit him up when he gets back in next week.... fuck. I have a sinking feeling the trail will run cold by then but I'm keeping my hopes up. I want justice very very badleeeeeeee.
Roadblock responding to a
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05.19.09 - 6:50 pm
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Oh no!
+1 to what everyone in this fam said. I hope you heal up fast and find that motherf*^ker. Sheesh.
Coe coe buttaa05.19.09 - 7:02 pm
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damn, dude!
- stoked you're in one piece
- pity the foo who took off!
so does anyone out in MR land have a robo-dialing fax machine sw program for their computer? if we sent out a blanket flier blast via fax to the auto-body shops in the area with the description of the car it might turn up some good leads.
Cranktankerous05.19.09 - 7:03 pm
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hey, I am glad you're doing somewhat well... MR needs riders like you.... everyone ride try to stay safe out there...
dayone05.19.09 - 7:06 pm
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hey thanks Happyland I may just take you up on what ever help I can get.... judging by the convo with the detectives today, I'm gonna need some extra special sauce to get to the bottom of this shit.
Roadblock responding to a
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05.19.09 - 7:07 pm
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I'm broke as fuck but you know if you need to set up a Roadblock Legal/ Investigation Fundraiser we will be there in full and total effect.
This mofo is goin' down.
Seriously dude. Tell us how you want to handle this and we will get on it.
Press Release?
Search Party?
Political Pressure?
Gang of Zombie Thugs?
Drunkie fucked with the wrong biker.
Lets send a message!
trickmilla responding to a
comment by Roadblock
05.19.09 - 7:10 pm
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Do we have a vehicle description yet? Would love to get this perp.
+1 on the nice edit of the thread too.
User105.19.09 - 7:46 pm
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I'm also glad to hear you're ok, helmets ftw
dannyzuko05.19.09 - 7:48 pm
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I thought I seen the person so i took this photo, can you tell me if this is him?
Yetiman05.19.09 - 8:51 pm
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Definitely! All my contact info is at my site, which is linked in my profile. Just let me know.
HappyLand responding to a
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05.19.09 - 9:27 pm
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best I can recollect the paths... and the collision...
MAP
Roadblock05.19.09 - 9:39 pm
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Roadblock,
In addition to filing the police report, file an accident report with the DMV, so you can get them to look into it as well / get the driver on record with the DMV as well as the police.
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/forms/sr/sr1.htm
Also, you can google "CA license plate search" and get a whole variety of services that will pull license plate info for you for a fee of $20-40.
Good luck finding this guy.
JB05.19.09 - 9:40 pm
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Roadblock,
Apparently the license plate lookup websites are a scam, but the DMV will perform a search for you if you fill out the form below and send it in with a $5 fee.
This is probably the way to go:
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/forms/inf/inf70.pdf
JB05.19.09 - 9:51 pm
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Also, once you obtain counsel (lawyering up should be free for you as it's a slam-dunk contingency fee case once they find the car (assuming the driver is insured)), have them fill out this form to get the info (if they don't already know about this).
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/forms/inf/inf1161e.pdf
JB05.19.09 - 9:58 pm
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should I be getting a lawyer right now? even without having located the suspect?
Roadblock responding to a
comment by JB
05.19.09 - 10:02 pm
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Glad you are...ok. Though wish you full recovery at best! Watched the council meeting on Channel 35 and to my surprise saw Box. So I watched till it was his moment at the mic. To my surprise, shock and disbelief Stephen mentions that not only were you present at the meeting yesterday Monday but that you had been hit by a driver last night who fled the scene! I am optimistic in that LA will change in what is pretty dark for us cyclists. However, I will do my darndest best to partake in what is our right to give voice before our council members when meetings are scheduled! I was there on Monday and did speak as eloquently as possible. Unfortunately, I was not included in the edited video that was posted earlier. Again, best recovery to you and so glad you were wearing your helmet! Leticia from TheBikeOven
Velomama05.19.09 - 10:13 pm
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Any of the reputable bike lawyers in L.A. will offer a free consultation. Might be worth it to see if they have staff/ private investigators that can help search for vehicles and their registered owners in cases where you only have a partial plate. See if they've had success tracking down partials.
DJwheels responding to a
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05.19.09 - 10:36 pm
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"should I be getting a lawyer right now? even without having located the suspect? "
Yes.
They'll be telling you what you need to do to maximize chances of recovery / working on retrieving info / finding the suspect etc., etc.
Look at the forums here to find who the better ones are, and take advantage of the free consultations to find one that you can work effectively with.
JB05.19.09 - 10:48 pm
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I FUCKING LOVE YOU DUDE!
Don I'm really sad to hear you have fallen victim to a hit and run. I hope we can find this shit head. Make him pay. Recover quickly man, hope to see you soon and in better health.
You do have angels with you.
puglife responding to a
comment by la duderina
05.19.09 - 11:06 pm
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The fucking love you part was regards to duduerina's God damit post!!!!!....I love you to heal up man.
puglife05.19.09 - 11:08 pm
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Fuuuuuuucccccck... Damn Roadblock, so fucking glad you're alright. That photo of you with the neck brace is scary as shit. Whatever you need let me know.
studiodrome05.19.09 - 11:14 pm
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Very sorry to hear this Roadblock, just saw the thread!!!
I'm tryng to find the phone number of a cop friend I know. If I find it I'll ask if he can look up that licence plate.
Limeyfly responding to a
comment by studiodrome
05.20.09 - 12:22 am
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Y'all know that Glendale was going to be a freeway connecting the 5 to the 101 right?
Neighborhood dissent killed the project in the 1970's, but the roads are widened to the max and designed for insane speeds (considering the land use zoning in the area).
TRAFFIC CALMING NEEDED. Anyone in City Hall give a damn?
ubrayj0205.20.09 - 12:54 am
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High-strength fishing line tied to metal trashcans on both sides of the street.
Speeding car hits the line, pulls the trashcans towards each other then
BOOM!!
Driver shits pants and slows the fuck down in a cold sweat that momma's hand would be able to comfort.
bentstrider05.20.09 - 12:57 am
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RB... Glad you're alive! Can't believe the fucker ran. LIke the rest said... heal up quick and glad you're ok.
digablesoul05.20.09 - 1:00 am
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DAM.... So sorry to read this! Much love and healing thoughts to you Don!
bigsexxy responding to a
comment by Limeyfly
05.20.09 - 1:12 am
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Roadblock, do not give up. If anything, try to find a cop that has access to license plate databases, maybe a friend of a friend or something. It shouldn't be that tough to search for different variations, just sit down w/ a couple of folks and put your minds together on what the missing digit could be.
I refuse to believe that a streamlined process to search for partial plates does not exist, it's 2009 for fuck's sake.
Also keep up your search for witnesses, putting up signs is a great idea. Some of the best leads I got on the BikeCar were from people in the neighborhood where it was spotted. I put in a few hours of personal time, but it paid off.
Cops are "too busy" w/ other shit nowadays, we have to become vigilantes more or less until the "economic problems" go away.
jericho1ne responding to a
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05.20.09 - 9:51 am
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So how are you feeling today? Take care, as some problems may not show immediately...
alicestrong05.20.09 - 9:53 am
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If all else fails, try a private investigator. My dad is good friends with one, let me know if you want his digits. They've got all kinds of tricks they use to get info...
la duderina05.20.09 - 10:18 am
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I rode by after, saw your feet on the gurney. How can I help? Is there a ride or a meeting?
Also, there's a crazy woman who has taken up residence at the bus stop on the corner across the street from the church. Maybe she can remember something? I know it's a long shot, but...
Yellow_Bike05.20.09 - 10:43 am
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hey, I'm feeling it today... more soreness... and some neck pain.... but still mobile. thanks for the advice. I think it might be time to go private investigator... the detectives are basically saying, you lived, you didnt sustain a ton of injury so it might take weeks before we get to your case...
Roadblock responding to a
comment by alicestrong
05.20.09 - 11:19 am
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Roadblock, hope you are feeling better and that they find that asshole and serve him justice. Not right.
I heard about your accident via my ALC TMR teammates, and did a little write up on LAist this morning (bit.ly/roadblock), hope it's cool I used your pic of the signs. And if there is anything I can do to help or info you want me to add, please let me know!
Get well soon!
retoxinla responding to a
comment by Roadblock
05.20.09 - 11:41 am
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Roadblock,
I normally have a pretty quiet internet voice. I lurk a lot, but this is the first time I've actually posted on MR. Thanks for maintaining this great site. Much respect. It's strange that it took such an unfortunate incident to get me to participate in what is normally a really positive place.
I just wanted to express my sympathy for your pain and empathy for your anger as well as support for you and your cause. I live on Glendale Blvd and regularly ride between the 2nd St tunnel and 2 freeway. This section makes me more uncomfortable on a bike than any other normal roads I have been on. The recent collisions in this area are a grim reminder that we are not invincible on our roads and that some places are more dangerous than others.
Send a shout if I can help with anything. I saw your signs. It sounds like you are doing things right. I know you know this, but here's a quick reminder: you are not alone. Say the word and you'll have an army behind you.
jxjx05.20.09 - 12:10 pm
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Holy shit. I'm late to the party, but dude, I'm glad to hear you're alright, Don. I hope that asshole gets brought to justice.
nathansnider05.20.09 - 12:17 pm
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my cop friend ran a check on the partial plate provided above and all that comes up are volkswagens, no nissans.
twindc2305.20.09 - 12:45 pm
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Yesterday's earthquake was the world shaking in anger.
See? Even the EARTH is pissed off that someone did this to Roadblock!
HappyLand05.20.09 - 12:48 pm
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LOLed - or yesterday was the aftershock to Roadblock's earthquake! Damn! i cannot believe that happened and i am just still in shock and so glad that you (Roadblock) are alive and walking and still existing with us. Damn!
bondink responding to a
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05.20.09 - 12:52 pm
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seriously man, if you need some vicodin for the pain, just let me know.
out of curiosity, what bike were you riding? i hope it wasnt your big cannondale.
ruinedbyidiots responding to a
comment by Roadblock
05.20.09 - 12:54 pm
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@twindc23
i'm sure that a vw and a nissan can look pretty similar at 2am when you've just been hit from behind.
can you ask your friend if any of them are dark gray or gray and if any of them are registered near LA?
cassidy responding to a
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05.20.09 - 1:19 pm
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Fom the comment section of metroblog:
Some dude claims you can get your insurance company to represent you if you have "uninsured motorist"
"Wow lucky he survived to tell you the story.
As a side bar when it comes to medical bills since he was hit by a car, specifically a hit and run auto, if he has uninsured motorist coverage on his auto policy he should submit the claim to them. Before anyone balks when I was a claims manager my unit handled a couple hundred auto vs bicyclist where our insured was the bicyclist who was hit by a car that either fled, was uninsured or underinsured. In short use the coverage if its available to help with the bills."
trickmilla05.20.09 - 2:02 pm
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Sorry to hear about your hit and run, that sucks! Hope you heal up!
I just asked another rida who is an insurance claims adjuster about filing an uninsured motorist claim as suggested a few posts ago, she said that it depends on the wording of your policy, does the UMP cover both parties or only the uninsured motorist that you hit? She said that people have been covered when struck while getting in and out of a parked car, but it's iffy when you're not actually in a car. However, you wouldn't be considered an at fault party so it wouldn't be a strike against you in the eyes of your insurance company if they reject the claim, and if they did cover you, it would most likely only extend to bodily injury and not property damage.
nancine05.20.09 - 2:35 pm
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oh correction, just got a followup email on uninsured motorist insurance:
"There is a VERY good likelihood that his UMBI would cover bodily injury, both specific (medical bills, chiro bills, etc) and general (pain and suffering, lost wages), IF there is not an exclusion clause specifically excluding coverage under certain situations.
He would need to go through the exclusions in his policy to find out.
Filing a claim would also help.
Now…if he has UMPD coverage, it may cover his bicycle as well, unless there is a "covered vehicle" clause that specifically excludes his bike or any other non-motorized vehicles. "
nancine05.20.09 - 2:37 pm
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i'm really sorry roadblock. when you find the fucker, you should call gary brustin. he's helped a lot of cyclists and helped them get good settlements, etc.
below is his info. i know it's looks too slick, but he's for real.
http://www.bicyclelawyer.com/
Gary C. Brustin
Tel: (800) 841-2453
info@bicyclelawyer.com
gohomedorothy05.20.09 - 5:54 pm
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I love all you ridazz. I really do.
there is no giving up on this. 100% ONE HUNDRED PERCENT.
Roadblock05.20.09 - 10:44 pm
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IF THERE IS ONE LESSON TO BE LEARNED FROM ALL OF THIS. NO MATTER WHAT. Even if you think they are going to be decent human beings and actually stop....
GET THE PLATES
Roadblock05.20.09 - 10:55 pm
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Maybe this is a stupid idea but, you know how the saying goes..criminals always return to the scene of the crime...well it is possible that if they drove down that street on that day, at that time once, they'll drive down that street again...so I don't know...maybe wolfpack needs to make a stop on glendale blvd around the place and time you got hit this monday? .......yeah i dont know..probably a futile endeavor.
la duderina05.21.09 - 10:36 am
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I've been thinking same thing.
In general we should be having rides around the area looking for this dickwad.
trickmilla responding to a
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05.21.09 - 7:19 pm
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I love all your ideas and all your help..... I have to tell you.... THE BALL IS ROLLING.
I was not kidding when I told y'all.... when I put it on wolfpack hustle that was my highest form of committment... my blood, my soul, my heart is in this..... don't sweat. THE BALL IS ROLLING. There are angels in this comunity. That's all I can say for now.
Roadblock responding to a
comment by trickmilla
05.21.09 - 8:00 pm
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I road a little bit in some of neighborhoods above echo park with the LP in my head.
Looking at cars and hoods and plates.
I want to see this fool go down.
Good Luck RB.
Keep us posted!
trickmilla05.21.09 - 8:53 pm
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It's good to have lots of friends and family.
We can do this !
DJwheels responding to a
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05.21.09 - 9:01 pm
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Bah!!!!! Glad you are ok man. Basically I am a cat that did the Hustle once, loved it but because of jobby job and laziness never did it again. Seen you around the ridazz rides. You even saw me once on a monday afternoon and in Loz Feliz and asked me if I would be riding that night. You are a class act.
Don't give up the fight man. Get this scared Mother Fucker!!!!!!!!
Peace,
Manq
Manq05.22.09 - 12:17 am
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And let me tell you. Everytime I call LAPD I become extremely dissappointed.... I'm going down first thing in the morning and bringing them everything. I get the feeling they won't have the resources to bother.... essentially, this city is BROKE. The detectives have hundreds of cases involving rape and murder and shootings.... a cyclist getting hit is not up on their priority. They have very little man power.
Thankyou DJ Wheels for all your help my brother. Without you I would be whistling in the wind...
Roadblock responding to a
comment by Manq
05.22.09 - 1:03 am
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I just read this post in its entirety, and am down as the south with the others that have mentioned a search mission for this fucker. I've received my fair share of asshole-ed-ness from L.A.'s drivers, and am fed the fuck up. Should the time come in which a peaceful resolve is thrown out of the window...
Consider me a big red fucking button.
Get well Roadblock.
BlAcKnYeLLoWfUji05.22.09 - 1:08 am
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Whoa man, that is just goddamned awful what happened to you. I hope this case gets solved quick and the perp nabbed soon, because it would just be an effing shame if another sleazebag got away with this. I hope you get a speedy recovery, dude.
On another note...I am now seriously considering buying a helmet....and soon. 8[
Stomachache05.22.09 - 2:36 am
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there should be no consideration...just do it. It's your freakin HEAD man!
la duderina responding to a
comment by Stomachache
05.22.09 - 8:53 am
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Just got back from detectives office.... very nice guy. A much more friendly and hopeful encounter than over the phone....
I trash talk too much sometimes. The problem is that the cops just don't have the resources to dedicate out of hundreds of cases, to a cyclist who survived a hit and run. Had I been killed or paralyzed it would be a different story.
The case has a lot of potential to bring light though to a major flaw with the laws....
The guy who hit me was undoubtedly drunk. And the fact is that hit and run, is a far lesser crime than drunk driving hit. So that's why this scum of the earth took off and that's why 90% of other shitbags take off.
There needs to be a change in the law regarding hit and runs. It needs to carry even stiffer penalties than drunk driving, which is a hard thing to top..... I'm going to start a new discussion thread on it....
Roadblock05.22.09 - 9:16 am
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+100000000001
Honestly, I am now convinced that if I get back on a bike, I'm wearing a helmet. You can do everything right... I signaled, I had bright flashing lights, I was riding on the right.... and still, some DRUNK piece of shit for a human being will change your whole life situation. I'm so lucky to be alive. Not 100yards from my final resting point another human being on a bike died from another drunk piece of shit subhuman....
We need to do everthing we can to be prepared for the worst and that includes wearing helmets, using bright flashing light day and night and like I say on many rides when drivers are acting irrate or beligerent... GET THE PLATES.
When you get hit. Get the plates and do whatever you can to remember. Recite the plates over and over until you can write them down until you can twitter them text them to yourself, write it on paper, yell it out to people, write it on the concrete in blood as you die. Its the first most crucial clue in the case that unfolds ahead of you...... if you get them... trust that this ridazz family is too resourceful and loving to let these incidents go. The new paradygm is that for these kinds of incidents you have to do all the work for the detectives to (hopefully) get justice....
Roadblock responding to a
comment by la duderina
05.22.09 - 10:00 am
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I don't get why cars are even allowed on the road without plates...like that bummer Hummer...
alicestrong responding to a
comment by Roadblock
05.22.09 - 10:03 am
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At this point its weird... but it feels like an IF. I know its not.... I think.... I don't know how to describe it but I find myself paranoid as I'm getting back into walking places.... this morning as I was crossing the street on a walk I looked back and a car was turning left into me not so much in a wreckless way but in a "hurry the fuck up" way. Yet that was scary to me.... I felt like he was going to keep going and run me down..... I know that when skull got hit and run she never really rode with the same vigor..... meh.....
Roadblock responding to a
comment by la duderina
05.22.09 - 10:58 am
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...and that's what has to change in Los Angeles, that "car first" attitude needs to be "people first" on our roads and in our public spaces.
But you'll be OK...more than OK
alicestrong responding to a
comment by Roadblock
05.22.09 - 11:03 am
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The mental trauma that you're feeling is to be expected - give it time, listen to yourself and do what you need to do to recover. We all want you back when it's right for you.
This guy took something precious - the joy of riding a bike - from you. Find it, take it back.
mr rollers responding to a
comment by Roadblock
05.22.09 - 11:18 am
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Give it a week or two Roadblock. It's going to take a little while to get unrattled.
Sounds like you were a victim of the "moth effect".
Maybe we all need to get Amber rear blinkies instead of red.
http://www.policedriving.com/article145.htm
POLICE VEHICLES AND LIGHTS
EMERGENCY WARNING LIGHTS: Are they really protecting YOU and making the emergency scene safer or making YOUR vehicle a target?
An article by Retired NYSP EVOC Instructor Robert J. Faugh - (Present NYS BMP & US DOT EVOC Instructor ) This article updated 1-20-06
Since the early 1950s, when the Beacon Ray replaced the single flashing light, we have seen more and more lights added to our emergency vehicles. It was believed that if 35 watt bulbs were good then 100 watt must be better. If two lights made it safer then six must make it really safe. How about a million candlepower strobe system? We have reached the point where the warning lights are becoming the problem at emergency scenes and traffic stops, making the area less safe and actually causing accidents! More bright warning lights DO NOT make ANY scene safer!
Studies of warning lights by the California Highway Patrol (CHP), Illinois State Police (ISP), University of Minnesota, NY State Police, NYS DOT and the US DOT, within the last few years have addressed the following factors: light output, flash rate, color and reaction to light emitted. In 1999 a five-state federally funded study also addressed the problem of warning lights when parked next to the roadway. (Fire/police/EMS/DOT/Tow Trucks) They identified two major problems. First, No emergency responder sets traffic control or warnings the same at a scene. Secondly, the public has no idea what to do when confronted with numerous colors of lights on vehicles parked every which way in the highway!
Most state Vehicle and Traffic Law requires if the emergency vehicle is parked in violation of the normal parking laws some type of warning must be displayed from that vehicle. Minimal lighting would be legal.
Every emergency vehicle has more than enough warning lights and is equipped so that if it is the only vehicle parked at a scene, the warning light law is complied with. The problem is that when there are six or seven emergency vehicles at a scene. When all the warning lights are left on, the area actually becomes unsafe due to all of the blinding and distracting lights. When you set up a "carnival" too much attention will be drawn to it. Officer safety is also an issue. All the flashing lights can distract the officer and also blind the officer while attempting to observe what is going in a vehicle or on the scene. The flashing lights also blind other motorist who then cannot see the officer. More lights DO NOT make the scene safer!
What effect do the flashing lights have on a motorist who is stopped in front of the police vehicle with all the lights glaring into their vehicle as they sit there waiting for their ticket? The police vehicle sits there with the flashing headlights blinding on-coming traffic. Put yourself in that position for a second, don't you think the situation would be less tense and less stressful without the warning lights flashing into the violators car? These same cops sit behind a disabled vehicle with minimal rear lights on, forwards lights off, what is the difference?
The ISP & CHP Studies questioned the use of light bars on their police cars and the safety of the officers while engaged in their duties next to the roadway. The collision rate for emergency vehicles displaying lights while parked next to the highway were two and one-half times higher for the same 100,000 miles driven than for non-emergency vehicles. Illinois removed the light bars from 50% of their cars and their study showed the cars without the roof-mounted bars were involved in 65% fewer accidents both parked and moving.
Many highway patrols have numerous "slick top" vehicles with a flashing lights in the rear window and no roof mounted lights. Many departments are going to the "slick top" cars for added safety, better gas mileage and increased productivity (more tickets).
More and more "slick top" cars are being used in New York state by local police, (Greece & Webster PD) sheriffs (Monroe & Onondagua) and NYSP. Roof-mounted light bars have their place but in many cases are over used and do not obtain the required protection. They also give the officer operating the vehicle a false sense of security that the lights will somehow protect them both moving and parked, which is not true.
What about color? Red lights send a message, emergency, stop and also tend to draw persons to the area of the emergency. The psychological reaction to red is rage, anger and hostility. Red lights invoke erratic behavior from other motorists. You are being subjected to the red warning light effects also.
The knowledge of human perception calls into question the use of red warning lights when the vehicle is parked in or next to the highway. Instead of warning people away, the red emergency lights actually draw drivers towards the lights. This so-called moth effect refers to "a state of narrowed attention associated with excessive concentration on some object or task with the resulting in a loss of voluntary control over response." People drive where they look! Drugged, drunk, elderly and fatigued drivers will drive right into the rear of the vehicle in the road and drive off the road to hit the vehicle parked on the shoulder that is displaying the red warning lights. This happens more than we like to admit. How many close calls have you had?
Amber lights are legal on emergency vehicles. The amber light also sends a very specific message to those who view it: danger, caution & stay away. A driver who is drugged, drunk, elderly, tired, fatigued or confused will avoid the vehicle displaying the amber light. Amber also travels through fog, rain or snow much farther than red, blue or clear. In California ALL emergency vehicles must display at least one amber light to the rear. Federal ambulance specs required one amber light on the rear of all new ambulance. NFPA fire apparatus "blocking mode" status recommend AMBER lights. (Phoenix Az allows ONLY amber when parked) Why are fog lights amber? Why does the FAA require amber on airport vehicles? Why does DOT use amber?
The NY State Police conducted tests on the vehicles equipped with the "Street Hawk" light bar back in 1991. They now have an amber lens on the driver's side rear flashing light position in the bar. 15 to 20 Cars were struck while parked on the side of the road with only red lights on.
Other New York State agencies reported between 75 and 90 vehicle struck while parked NEXT TO the highway annually. After amber was installed, and the rotating red lights were shut off, Not one NYSP car was struck in three years while displaying the amber light with the rotating reds shut off! As time has moved along the troopers are again leaving the rotating reds on along with the amber and more cars are being struck! NYSP have equipped most of their cars that work the interstates with "arrow sticks" in the back window. The 2002 NYS State bid "Federal Vista" light bar has a built in arrow stick. It works more effectively when the red rotators are shut off by sending one message - caution, danger and stay away! Inside the trunk one light is now amber.
What is the answer? For parking situations we should limit the use of the warning lights. Amber is the color to use to warn traffic. Shut off the red, blue and clear lights. Use the "arrow stick" as it was designed to be used.
Warn only from the direction that the traffic is coming towards the scene. Another reason to limit the amount of warning lights at a scene is the effect is has on the crowd. It's a known fact that the red, blue & clear lights at a scene will draw and effect a crowd. Shut them off and many will walk away.
Park your vehicles in a safest position possible, which should be at a slight angle 50 to 100 feet back from the next vehicle. (V& T Stops, stop at least 30' back - you are a smaller target the further away you get from the violator). The parking of vehicles is a whole other article. Just turning the wheels will not do it. Equip the rear of your vehicles with at least one amber light to send that message caution, danger & stay away. Equip you vehicle with an "arrow stick". The arrow stick light is more effective when used without the rotating flashing red, blue or clear lights. The more your vehicle looks like a DOT, tow truck or utility truck the less chance you vehicle will be struck. Be careful how you use your headlights, spot lights and other flood lamps, shut off the flashing headlights. You may blind on-coming drivers and also people working on the scene including yourself. Make your emergency scene look like a "work zone" and you will have a lot less problems, "close calls" and accidents.
Officer Safety: The officer should have the option to approach the violator or suspects vehicle from the passengers side of the car. Many states promote this, Texas and Virginia are two that do. The officer has a better view of everything in the front seat, is a smaller target. The violator doesn't expect the officer to show up there and the officer is in a safer position if one of the drugged, drunk, tired, elderly or confused drivers runs into the officers car or the violators car.
Many Monroe Co. NY agencies use this limited light policy at scenes and especially on the Interstate highways. The Rush Fire Dept & Ambulance Service has been using this procedure for 15 years.
The vehicle closest to on-coming traffic stops several hundred feet prior to the scene, parks at an angle and displays only rear-facing lights, amber on the left and red on the right ("arrow stick" is used if equipped). Other responding emergency vehicles (fire/EMS/police) shut down their lights and park in a safe position. All vehicles are then protected by the larger 20 ton fire apparatus. They don't need ANY warning lights!
The results have been much more control over the traffic that is moving past the accident or situation and less confusion - they don't have the flashing lights to look at. The other lane keeps moving without the gapers block or "rubbernecking". The traffic slow to 40 MPH or so and keep on going. When distracting warning lights are shut down, it is much easier to see. They use this at EVERY call not just highway incidents. Everyone calms down when the majority of the warning lights are shut off! Anyone working near traffic should wear a bright (lime-yellow) with reflective white stripped vest.
NEVER TRUST THE PEOPLE APPROACHING A SCENE. OPERATE AS IF THEY ARE TRYING TO HIT YOUR VEHICLE AND RUN YOU OVER!
JB05.22.09 - 11:26 am
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"This guy took something precious - the joy of riding a bike - from you. Find it, take it back." - rollers
perfect
Candy Cane05.22.09 - 11:45 am
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another problem is that when roadblock tried to move out of the way, the guy tried to swerve around him and ended up driving right into him. it is almost better in that situation to hold your line and expect the motorist to attempt to swerve around you.
snowcone responding to a
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05.22.09 - 1:19 pm
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well more technically speaking, I never made it out of my lane. he was approaching so fast that I aborted the idea of getting in to the guy's lane completely. I was looking back and he got swervy trying to predict if I was going to follow through on my left signal - rather than slow down he guessed that I would get in his lane and he continued at full speed into my lane. my reaction to his speeding was to not only abort changing lanes but to get the fuck over to the right to avoid being anywhere near his car as he seemed out of control. I was hit while in the middle of the right lane at full speed or damn near full speed. there was no skidding sound and I could see that he didnt even try to slow down when he plowed right into me. I was carried on the hood for probably 50 - 75 feet before he applied the brakes and threw me off the car where I landed about 40 feet beyond where my bicycle was thrown.
Roadblock responding to a
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05.22.09 - 2:10 pm
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My heart races just reading that.
But dude, when you fall off the horse, you gotta get right back on (When you're finished healing up, of course).
"Fear is the mind-killer."
HappyLand responding to a
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05.22.09 - 2:18 pm
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Awww man, I was worried this would happen.
Don, your ass better be out at Wolfpack on Monday, even if you have to ride that dorky ass cannondale. I'm not kidding about this. I know from experience...if you let yourself get spooked it will be really hard to recover. GET BACK ON THAT SADDLE. GET BACK ON AS SOON AS POSSIBLE
I got spooked my first time on a BMX track (went over the handlebars over the first jump my first time on the track...too cocky) ...it took months to get over it. DON'T let it happen to you. Go to Wolfpack and take us down that street. We gotta take back that street.
la duderina responding to a
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05.22.09 - 5:27 pm
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thanks for the inspiring words... I promise I will someday return to Wolfpack... that is my soul and I feel like it's the only reason I survived this crash so well... but right now I am still in pain and couldn't get on a bike if I wanted to. and my canondale is not dorky! that is my one true love... my red beauty my bike for life. we will ride together again.... soon...
Roadblock responding to a
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05.22.09 - 6:35 pm
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+1 Mr Rollers...
I've been hit twice. The first time by a piece of shit hit and Run driver and the second time the lady actually stopped. After the first Hit,I was really shook-en up hard. I woke up at Cedar-Sini with just flash back bits of recollection. My Lip and nose scared up mean. First thing I asked was weres my Bike and Luckly the EMT brought her along for the ride..(hehe) After two weeks of recovery I was still paranoid. It took time for me to ease in again, but all in all You will be back to Normal in no time. Just lose the IF word from your Vocab. Can you imagine if Mr Obama said "IF" no, right? Well you're like the Prez of this here MR Shiiite. So NoMo "IF's" from you Donny D!
skano responding to a
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05.22.09 - 7:11 pm
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When I saw those "ifs" i figured it must be some kind of typo.
It makes me 100x madder at that self-centered dickwad to think that even for a minute
the douchebag could make you consider not riding again.
That would fucking break my heart.
But yeah, We forget what a leap of faith it is to ride in the street.
After a driver breaks that trust, it can fuck with your head.
Most importantly, heal up proper.
Seriously, I've been talkin' to ridazz (including myself) that have had injuries that didn't heal up 100% correctly. I am still having minor shoulder pain 1 year after a fall that didn't seem very bad at the time.
Once you have a bead on this asshole's insurance co. feel free to get all the medical attention you need/ want. They are obligated by the law to pay an infinite amount of necessary medical bills. Seriously.
In the mean time those dirty Daylight Crawlerzz have be takin' over the sidewalks; it time we took them back!
trickmilla responding to a
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05.23.09 - 9:58 am
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Roadblock, call your insurance company. If you've got uninsured motorist insurance, that should cover your hospital/treatment/etc. bills, plus it adds some more folks that want to track this guy down, which could help.
JB05.23.09 - 10:15 am
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I'm going to see a doctor on tuesday and get all this looked at again. I have less pain today but my shoulder is still on the fritz. I will be back on a bike... but damn... I'm wearing a helmet at all times. Drunk drivers are a wild card... and this guy was DRUNK.
Roadblock responding to a
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05.23.09 - 10:24 am
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Hearing about other people getting hit, other people crashing, etc always made me think I should always wear my helmet no matter what. I mean I already knew I should, but never did.
YOU getting hit on WOLFPACK hit a lot closer to home...I wore my helmet to go mail a letter the other day.
la duderina responding to a
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05.23.09 - 10:44 am
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Call a lawyer. Even if you dont think you want to call one. Tom Forsyth is the lawyer i used when i got hit. he fights for you.
if you think your insurance company has your best interest at heart, you're crazy wrong. He works on contingency so it doesnt cost you anything. At least get a consultation. Then everything gets paid for and all you have to worry about is getting better.
Maulie05.23.09 - 10:49 pm
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+ 1 duderina
As much as I love to feel my hair blowing in the breeze I've been much more disciplined about wearing me helmet since this happened.
RB is a solid ridaa: visible confident, and smart.
Seeing this shit happen to him is yet another reminder that some random ass shit can happen at any time.
While RB's helmet, didn't really contribute to his lack of injury, it just as easily could have been the difference between life or death.
trickmilla05.26.09 - 11:58 pm
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Yo, meng. Did you call the detective to find out the status?
DJwheels responding to a
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10.8.09 - 12:11 pm
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court date has been set... unbelieve-able. I had to hem and haw and wait on hold for stretches of time until I got a person onthe phone at the CA office who listened to me and decided to add a charge of injury/bodily harm to the case! They were going to move forward only considering my property damage.
arraignment date is set for Nov. 2nd 8:30 AM dept. 60 metro court.
Roadblock responding to a
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10.8.09 - 2:54 pm
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Absolutely unbelievable. I remember I read your post when this happened. I can't believe you actually found the perpetrator. This fucker, whoever it is deserves to rot in jail for a long long time.
It's really sickening that hitting someone, and then running-which to me kind of assumes guilt is treated so lightly in the eyes of the law. If you accidentally hit someone and stay at the scene, you are being a fine, upstanding citizen who made a mistake or had an accident..fine insurance will take care of it...
But running from the scene...that is downright cockroach behavior. This person deserves to be treated like a cockroach, even if it is someone 'well known within city circles'
Sorry for getting so emotional about it but this kind of stuff just makes my blood boil. Roadblock, I can't imagine what you must feel about this. I've never actually formally met you but still I wish you the best of luck with this case and hopefully either this person can be made an example of or this can lead to a long overdue change in the punishment for this offense
hybrid rida responding to a
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10.9.09 - 1:00 am
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@SoapBox: Haha ure the dude that encouraged me to speak at city hall with u guys when I originally only meant to be a spectator..
profoscurity10.9.09 - 1:41 am
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@DJWheels, what are the implications if myself and others show up to this? could it hurt or harm my case? I can't believe its even a question that comes to mind but with our court system I don't doubt anything.
Roadblock10.21.09 - 10:52 am
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Well as long as it's not a circus and people are respectful, there's nothing really harmful about it.
I've said it before, there's no room for shenanigans in a courthouse. You have to be quiet and non disruptive, can't talk while court is in session, no cell phones, no cameras/video without the judge's permission, no communication with the witnesses or jurors.
Also, it's probably best to stay away from the defendant, if the person is actually not in custody and walking around in the hallways or out in the parking lot. Can't be following the person around and taking pictures, that should probably be left to the media who stick to the courthouse steps.
DJwheels responding to a
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10.21.09 - 11:49 am
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Dear DJ Wheels
Do letters to the DA help?
sexy10.21.09 - 11:52 am
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I'll give the standard lawyer response....it depends.
What kind of letters to the DA? Angry, annoying, nagging, pain in the ass type letters? Those probably don't help you gain the favor and trust of the prosecutor assigned to case.
DJwheels responding to a
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10.21.09 - 11:59 am
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hahaha I've been using that phrase so much more in the last year than I have in my entire life. "it depends"
la duderina responding to a
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10.21.09 - 12:20 pm
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Why do older people taste different when you go down on them?
sexy responding to a
comment by la duderina
10.21.09 - 12:21 pm
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it depends on the meaning of "older people", cause then the taste might depend on removing panties or depends.
md2 responding to a
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10.21.09 - 12:28 pm
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arraignment date is set for Nov. 2nd 8:30 AM
heyyy that's my Wolfpack 1 year anniversary. ha
la duderina responding to a
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10.21.09 - 12:31 pm
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take the depends talk to a new thread please.
Roadblock10.21.09 - 12:31 pm
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it depends actually
md2 responding to a
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10.21.09 - 12:31 pm
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The Punch line is just "
Depends"!
sexy10.21.09 - 3:02 pm
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Just remember, this could have been any of us.
jericho1ne responding to a
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12.24.09 - 2:52 pm
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