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Torelli
Thread started by Schwinner at 11.1.09 - 5:50 pm

I just ordered the Torelli Montefalco anyone have any thought on the bike / brand? Thanks...



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Man, I thought I was the only one to buy and then do my research! Welcome to the club winner!



User1
11.1.09 - 6:50 pm

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torelli has sweet bikes. montefalco is a sweet bike. too expensive for my taste, but sweet nontheless.

parlorbikes on here works at Torelli.

Torelli services my bike parts.

Torelli unofficially sponsors Team Touch



_iJunes
11.2.09 - 9:48 am

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tortellini?



la duderina
11.2.09 - 10:06 am

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the countach would have been a better purchase.



ruinedbyidiots
11.2.09 - 10:30 am

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the countach is not monocoque



_iJunes
responding to a comment by ruinedbyidiots
11.2.09 - 10:39 am

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Mmmmmm tortellini on a Torelli!!! Yumm!!!!!!



User1
responding to a comment by la duderina
11.2.09 - 12:11 pm

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The crabon bikes resemble the unlabeled 350 to 550 dollar Chinese frames available on ebay.



franz
responding to a comment by User1
11.2.09 - 1:40 pm

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Please do your research before opening your mouth I can assure you this frameset cannot be purchased through any of the cheap frame vendors on e-bay. This is part of my job.

Ijunes, the Montefalco is tube-to-tube process. The tubes are made specific for the size then assembled into a complete frame. This allows for more ride adjustability and a lighter overall frame.



parlorbikes
responding to a comment by franz
11.2.09 - 1:58 pm

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Oh my mistake, where were these frames made?



franz
responding to a comment by parlorbikes
11.2.09 - 1:59 pm

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i have a laker color corsa strada...
20 pound steel frame bike.
i like it...



d-styles
11.2.09 - 2:08 pm

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not chinese.



_iJunes
responding to a comment by franz
11.2.09 - 2:09 pm

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Depends on what you want to hear. Taiwan is what is on the "made in" sticker. However like 99% of the bikes in the world, most carbon fiber is fired in China. From Pinnarello to Cannondale, China is where most bikes carbon fiber is fired/produced. Now it comes down to how much of a certain process/paint/decal installation to officailly be able to put a "made in (whatever)" sticker on it. There are many ways to say made in USA. Sometimes even just painting a bike in a country(lets say USA) gives you the right under certain laws and regulation to say "made in the USA'. Most bikes will say "designed in the USA" or "Italy", however they might just have been put into an individual box from a larger quantity box in that country, now(according to some regulation) its "made" in that country.

To sum it up. 99% of bikes that come to this country originate in raw materials all over the world and made near complete in China, or Taiwan only to be sold all over the world. Its amazing to me the amount of "Italian" carbon, gets shipped to Italy, in the same box it gets shipped out of Italy inside of, without even seeing the light of day.

Torelli STEEL frames sold as frame only, are ALL HANDMADE IN ITALY.

www.torelli.com



parlorbikes
responding to a comment by franz
11.2.09 - 2:10 pm

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Steel is real and Italians are even realer!



User1
responding to a comment by parlorbikes
11.2.09 - 2:18 pm

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So the frames are designed and engineered by the Torelli R&D department in the USA and then the US designed specs are sent to China where they produce the Torelli frame to your exclusive specifications? That sounds reasonable.



franz
responding to a comment by parlorbikes
11.2.09 - 2:25 pm

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I like the Tipo Uno and the price......

nice bike



Foldie
11.2.09 - 2:40 pm

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Yes and No. Torelli carbon fiber is "made in Taiwan" take that for what it is, a sticker following a regulation.

Its complicated. Ask Pinnarello where their steel frames are made. OH, thats right, they don't make those anymore. iPinnarello for a while had a youtube video that shows their bike being made in a Chinese factory. Ask Bianchi where there steel frames are made. Yes they figured out last year they shouldn't take away steel completely. They figured no one buys those anymore. What ever happended to one of the best steel frames ever produced, the Bianchi BORON STEEL!!!!!?????? Ask Cannondale where their carbon bikes are made. Gary Fisher now makes road bike. Where are the Lemond mountain bikes?????



parlorbikes
responding to a comment by franz
11.2.09 - 2:52 pm

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So now that I've "done my research" Is it unreasonable to say "The crabon [BSNYC] bikes resemble the unlabeled 350 to 550 dollar Chinese frames..."

Since they physically have the look of each other, are created, and as far as I can gather from your writings, apparently but not explicitly designed in the same place?

I never criticized your company. I made an observation about the physical qualities of your carbon frames. I also never mentioned steel which you seem to have written quite a bit about in an attempt to defend your company, which again was never attacked.



franz
responding to a comment by parlorbikes
11.2.09 - 3:14 pm

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i was the one who first mentioned steel in this thread.



ruinedbyidiots
responding to a comment by franz
11.2.09 - 3:15 pm

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I did not assume that you were attacking anything. These are general statements to inform people of what they are getting. To say "made in blah" just depends on the regulation you are working around to get the BLAH you want.

Steel is what we are known for. Carbon was an add on to stay with the market a few years ago. We do get prototypes of different molds, designs, and different levels of carbon fiber. The Montefalco uses Toray T800 which is one of the best avaiable to use in bicycles.

No harm, no foul. Buy what rides well, because as you stated most are very similar when it comes down to it. We get a few different ones and decide upon which one rides the best to fit the Torelli market. We sell steel so our carbon reflects more on the ride of steel than does a full super stiff race bike. We have had people state its a carbon bike with some life to it. Unlike some that ride like a brick.

Just putting some information out there.

No harm, no foul.




parlorbikes
11.2.09 - 3:27 pm

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god dammit this linguini wasn't even made in Italy!! WTF?! damn ebay noodles



la duderina
11.2.09 - 3:35 pm

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okok you win



_iJunes
responding to a comment by la duderina
11.2.09 - 3:37 pm

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o'cock.



coldcut
11.2.09 - 3:41 pm

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monocoque!



la duderina
responding to a comment by coldcut
11.2.09 - 3:50 pm

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heh.





coldcut
responding to a comment by la duderina
11.2.09 - 3:58 pm

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after riding the Torelli Montefalco for a month now I must comment that it is an amazing ride - well worth the money spent to build it up!!

THANK YOU TORELLI!!





Schwinner
11.30.09 - 8:52 pm

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