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BLM Oppression
Thread started by toweliesbong at 04.21.09 - 12:30 pm

Camp and ride bicycles in the desert with 24 of your closest friends and receive $1000 fine for not obtaining a recreation permit.

Funny that I see thousands of people camping in much larger groups in the desert without a permit every fucking weekend.

What? Just because we're not pumping gallons and gallons of gas and oil tax revenues through our bicycles we're the ones getting written up?

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you need an adventure pass, right?



ruinedbyidiots
04.21.09 - 12:31 pm

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regardless, that sucks. ive got $7 for you. just $993 left!



ruinedbyidiots
04.21.09 - 12:32 pm

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Cyclists are not the only ones who get hassled on BLM land.

Target Shooters get fucked with too.



el_spaniard
04.21.09 - 12:34 pm

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$1000!! Fuck!

If you have to pay that, I've got some $$ on it.



cured1
04.21.09 - 12:36 pm

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I like that they were like, "oh move guys" from probably the most frequently camped spot in the area, which we did to a spot they recommended and still this shit!



neverclever
04.21.09 - 12:40 pm

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No, this is open land with no Adventure Pass requirements.



toweliesbong
04.21.09 - 12:47 pm

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I'm fighting it and countersuing. The ranger that wrote my citation told me he was going to write a regular ticket for $250 but his supervisor overrode him and sent me a Class A Federal Misdemeanor.



toweliesbong
04.21.09 - 12:49 pm

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Do it do it do it! I still got monies on it if you lose.



PC
04.21.09 - 1:20 pm

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Or if you have to post bail to fight it.



PC
04.21.09 - 1:20 pm

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Nope, no bail. I'll get arraigned some time in August/September, most likely in Barstow on the Marine Logistics Base, I'll plead not guilty, and then there will be a trial towards the end of this year or early next year.

I could probably use one or two people at my arraignment to try to have the charges dropped but it probably won't work.



toweliesbong
04.21.09 - 1:25 pm

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haha...my dad hates the BLM



la duderina
04.21.09 - 1:35 pm

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Let us know how to bug Senators and elected officials on this to help your cause. I'll write an essay for you if I have to.



neverclever
04.21.09 - 1:35 pm

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state control - state control - THIS IS STATE CONTROL!



ruinedbyidiots
04.21.09 - 1:38 pm

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It is state control. This supervising ranger literally does not want anyone to have fun in the Needles district of the BLM. The ranger that wrote me up and that I talked to at length has the complete opposite attitude of that prick supervisor.

The ranger that was onsite saw that we had a Ryder truck and to him that meant "organized event". I only rented the Ryder truck because it gets windy as fuck out there and it was way cheaper than a motorhome. If it had been windy we could fit way more people in the back of the truck to chill out of the wind than we could fit in a motorhome. We were lucky and there was no wind until we left this year.

We had no poker ride, many of us rode around and hiked around and played on the railroad tracks and flew kites and banged on water tanks and did ad-hoc critical masses but there were no fucking organized events.





toweliesbong
04.21.09 - 1:50 pm

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BLM=Bitches, Liars, and Motherfuckers



In the case of the Supervisory Ranger anyway.




bentstrider
04.21.09 - 3:03 pm

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Couple that with a 10X more aggro than LAPD/SD, San Bernardino Sheriffs Dept, and you got yourselves banditos!!!



bentstrider
04.21.09 - 3:17 pm

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They were certainly aggro when they first approached me, then they mellowed out after talking with me for awhile.

First thing was "is that your sign on the highway? IT'S BLOCKING TRAFFIC!!!" Hahahaha, yeah, right, it was a 12" x 18" sign that was in the dirt over 6 ft from the asphalt.





toweliesbong
04.21.09 - 3:33 pm

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I was actually referring to San Bernardino Co. Sheriff.
They've actually had quite a fair share of accidental shootings and cases of excessive force than any other department.

Hell, while other adjacent departments are lenient on some things, the stormtrooper deputies up here treat everyone that isn't them like dirt.




bentstrider
04.21.09 - 4:26 pm

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BML?



aksendz
04.21.09 - 8:42 pm

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Brad
I have plenty of money and would be willing to help you with the fine and even lawyer fees to fight this. By helping you out financially I think that would take away all of the fun you have talking about your victimization by the BLM, so I just stay out of it and read your post from a distances. Have fun and don't forget to bring a towel.



sexy
04.22.09 - 12:55 am

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Steve,

It officially stopped being fun today. I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more.

Sincerely,
Brad





toweliesbong
04.22.09 - 1:05 am

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