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LA Bike Lane Map?
Thread started by pavetheplanet at 02.29.08 - 1:19 am

Can anyone recomend a website that has a good map of bike lanes in the city of Los Angeles. I've tried the obvious google searches but didn't find anything that was very helpful.

Also, what the hell is a Bike Route? I see these signs around town but have no idea what makes a bike route any different than a regular street.....


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http://www.metro.net/riding_metro/bikes/images/la_bike_map.pdf

The only thing that makes a "bike route" different from any other road in Los Angeles is the sign. That's it.





onethirtynine
02.29.08 - 1:31 am

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Really? That's pretty lame. What's the point?

Hey, lets just start putting up bike route signs on every street in the city as a step toward total domination of the city!

Thanks for the link, just what I was looking for!



pavetheplanet
02.29.08 - 1:43 am

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As you can see from the map there are 3 classes of bike routes.

I don't know the exact description but I think it goes like this:

Class 1 - dedicated, away from the street, the LA River Bike Path
Class 2 - dedicated bike lane on a city street
Class 3 - just signs on a city street?



toweliesbong
02.29.08 - 1:55 am

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Don't poo poo the bike routes. I have looked at that map, planned some of my trips around them, and found the ride to be nicer. Cleaner street, paved streets (no pot holes) wider street, more room from cars, less or no parking. Even less automobile traffic.

In the past, The MTA map, would place streets that you should avoid if on a bicycle. Even though I saw the point they where making about certain streets. A seasoned rider could ride them, they where just a little less desirable to ride on.





sexy
02.29.08 - 1:56 am

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cool, now it all makes sense.
though the lack of actual bike lanes in the city is pretty sad.
I want to commute to work in Century City from my place in Los Feliz and, according to the map, there are several "bike routes" but only about half a mile of bike path in WeHo. Half a mile of bike path on a ten mile commute. Luckily no one walks in LA so it makes the sidewalks more accessable.



pavetheplanet
02.29.08 - 2:08 am

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Good for you unsexy. Over here on the Westside our bike routes are the worst streets available. For instance, Sepulveda.



Alex Thompson
02.29.08 - 2:20 am

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sorry to hear that, I have concur with you Alex Thompson, I lived on the West side for seven years, except for the Ocean and Cleaner air, everything west of Beverly Hills Sucks.

The question is, where on Sepulveda are you talking about, and would a parallel route be any better or any worse? In the Valley the ride is not so bad, (although it is not designated) but I would suggest that you stay away from it, due to the fact it is very unsightly (all the negative stereotypes about the valley can be viewed from, Burbank to Brand on Sepuvleda Blvd). Now going over the Sepulveda pass from the Valley is great ride, going back is great also, with the exception of some cracks in the road, coming into the Valley). From Wilshire on, I can't really say one way or another. I have rode it from Wilshire to Venice, but not enough to remember.

regarding bike lanes, they are kind of a trap. You not suppose to ride outside of the painted lanes except to turn, it is (from my understanding, I could be wrong) a ticketable offense. This all depends on where you are. Not every bike path is "all that" either, it is a hit and miss, depending on what you are comfortable with and what you are not.

The bike path on devonshire and canterbury in Arleta is trash "catch all". They created it next to these rain water flood control reservoirs (very ugly). The one on San Fernando Road, (people around here have claimed it to be a waste of money) but try actually riding on San Fernando Road, pretty scary. I think Dingo might have experience on it, that or the 94.
Regarding The orange Line bike path, that is part of The balboa park bike path, I would prefer to be on Victory, (which it runs parallel to) It is undesirable to me for the reasons; the concert is raised in certain areas, has low spots (puddles), and massive debris from the trees that shade it. Others would disagree with me, that it is an undesirable ride. The bad news about riding next to a bike route is (which I could if I rode parallel to it on Victory),I would have no legal civil case against anybody or anything that caused me harm. (I may be wrong about this also, but it is what my understanding of the situation is, legally)/



sexy
02.29.08 - 2:53 am

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Tough call on the bike lanes stuff. I don't really have an all purpose answer that has any intelligence. If I hadn't just got my ass whipped Cub Camp style I try to think about it, but instead I must retire.

LAter Sexy.



Alex Thompson
02.29.08 - 2:59 am

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toweliesbong wrote:

As you can see from the map there are 3 classes of bike routes.

I don't know the exact description but I think it goes like this:

Class 1 - dedicated, away from the street, the LA River Bike Path
Class 2 - dedicated bike lane on a city street
Class 3 - just signs on a city street?


Three classes of bikeways, not of bike routes. Class 3 is what we (and those little green signs) would call a bike route...and it is, as you say, quite literally just signs on a city street.



PC
02.29.08 - 3:47 am

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I'm at Sepulveda and Pico. Pico is soo bad right now in W. LA. that i don't even like to drive my car on it. The pot holes are pretty deep and run for long periods. Not just the occasional hole but consistent deterioration of the road.



stevo4
02.29.08 - 7:34 am

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Team Creanberry
02.29.08 - 7:47 am

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You can't get a ticket for leaving the bike lane if you have a reason to do so... opening car doors, pedestrians, debris, potholes, stray dogs, rollerbladers, really anything that can be considered hazardous. The only thing that you can really get ticketed for is running red lights (or stopsigns if you are in santa monica).

I don't mind riding in traffic but it's nice to have a little space... It's so demeaning having to ride in the gutter just to avoid getting run down.



pavetheplanet
02.29.08 - 10:20 am

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West side is not so bad compared to a lot of LA I feel, as far biking goes. Car driving sucks ass though. Santa Monica may be uptight ass wads in their attitude toward social rides, but I haven't seen anywhere in Los Angeles with as comprehensive a layout of bike lanes. There are multiple lanes going east/west, north/south, that form a loose grid making it possible to do a majority of local commuting on bike lanes.



GarySe7en
02.29.08 - 10:30 am

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The real problem in SM specifically is the inept people who run the town.

The court is particularly bad. After I got a ticket for running a red on my bike, I opted for "trial by written declaration" and filled out all the appropriate paperwork, along with my bail ($380) which I then hand delivered days before the due date.

Yesterday I received a notice from the court that my license had been placed on hold due to "failure to appear in court" and my fine had been bumped up to a whopping $987!!

I don't know what kind of people they have working in that building, but they don't appear to be intellectually gifted. Or even competent.



kyber
02.29.08 - 10:39 am

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Wow, that sucks! I hope you got a receipt for the bail that you posted, that should prove that you filed on time...



pavetheplanet
02.29.08 - 5:38 pm

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Sexy I have to disagree with you, I've been going over the Sepulveda pass a lot lately to get to the Encino Velodrome. From WLA to the valley on Sepulveda is one of the most dangerous roads I've ever taken. Blind turns with no shoulder to retreat to should a car come, excessive detritus in the bike lane, a bike lane that is about 2 feet wide and covered by trees, the bike lane also turns into huge lumps and pot holes every so often on the downhill, which can be exceedingly dangerous. I now just take the lane all the way down the hill.



franz
02.29.08 - 8:42 pm

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