End the Federal Reserve
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Dedicated818 at 11.11.08 - 7:17 pm
End the Fed sat Nov 22nd join the cause
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only if someone brings cake for me :]
aksendz11.11.08 - 9:57 pm
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anybody want to ride to this? protest before Crank MoB? End the FED
libra77711.17.08 - 4:12 pm
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is this just in LA or is it nation Wide ?
skano11.17.08 - 4:34 pm
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Join this peaceful protest and show the FED that we detest their private banking cartel!
Let's send a clear message that we support sound money and the abolishing of the Unconstitutional Federal Reserve.
Most of us go through life not knowing that the Federal Reserve is actually not part of the U.S. Government, but rather a private banking cartel that has illegally taken over the United States of America. The current global crisis is the new 9-11, orchestrated by the Federal Reserve and all the private central banks around the globe. They are purposely tanking the stock markets, purposely tanking the banks, and purposely tanking their own currencies in order to drop the hammer on the freedom loving people on this planet.
Freedom not Fear. Freedom loving people nationwide are meeting on the anniversary of the creation of this vile institution to protest its establishment and demand its elimination. Will you join us?
On November 22, 1910 a malevolent Creature was conceived in the darkness.
Every Fed Bank. Every Fed Office
Thirty-Eight Cities. One Purpose.
Boston, Philadelphia, New York City, Washington, D.C., Buffalo, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Richmond, Baltimore, Charlotte, Atlanta, Birmingham, Jacksonville, Miami, Nashville, New Orleans, Chicago, Detroit, St. Louis, Little Rock, Louisville, Memphis, Minneapolis, Helena, Kansas City, Denver, Oklahoma City, Omaha, Dallas, El Paso, Houston, San Antonio, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Portland, Salt Lake City, Seattle
The End Begins November 22, 2008
victorb11.17.08 - 6:42 pm
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is this for real or is this just a bunch of well fed libertarians bitching about taxes?
ephemerae11.17.08 - 10:43 pm
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It's not libertarian at all:
"Recent events have proved that the paper-money system of this country may be used as an engine to undermine your free institutions, and that those who desire to engross all power in the hands of the few and to govern by corruption or force are aware of its power and prepared to employ it. Your banks now furnish your only circulating medium, and money is plenty or scarce according to the quantity of notes issued by them." - Andrew Jackson, a democrat
toweliesbong11.17.08 - 10:48 pm
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also didn't andrew jackson die about 80 years before the fed was even established and 150 years before we went off the gold standard?
stevestevesteve11.18.08 - 8:52 am
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Ron Paul lost, get over it
Purp11.18.08 - 9:14 am
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Can we combine this with the next Robotz ride so everyone has enough tin foil to make hats out of?
Seriously though, before you start arguing in favor of undermining one of the foundations of our economic system, it might be nice to come up with a working alternative with a record of success to replace it.
Our economic system works pretty well overall. It needs a few tweaks here and there, and a little more regulation, but there really aren't that many better alternatives that will work at the scale of our national economy.
JB11.18.08 - 10:49 am
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A FEW TWEEKS here or there?
WOW.
I can't even think of a comment for that. Oh maybe....
I didn't buy a TV I can't afford.
I didn't buy a car I can't afford.
I didn't buy a house I can't afford.
I didn't buy clothes I can't afford.
I don't smoke cigarettes everyday.
I don't buy novelty lighters at the gas station that look like fruit, animal, guns, or 8-balls that tell me my future.
I don't buy lottery tickets with my unemployment.
And for all those people that did. $700,000,000,000.00 of everyones tax money for your bailout.
I sooooo hope they don't bailout our automakers. They make crap!!! All they want is your name on a GMAC financing loan. GM at one point said they make cars just to put people on credit payment plans.
parlorbikes11.18.08 - 11:03 am
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A lot of the people who bought houses they couldn't afford would've been stupid not to do it.
Let me explain: the country, and indeed a large part of the world, has been consumed by the mass delusion that real estate could only go up in value. Whether or not you bought into this fallacy, the opportunity for profit was there because everyone believed this. So if you had a chance to buy a property and flip it, the odds were extremely good that you'd end up making a ton of money. I know people who bought a property at the beginning of the housing bubble, got an extra ~$150k to spiff it up, and sold it at the end of the bubble for several hundred thousand dollars in profit. They were just about to hit the balloon payments which they couldn't afford to make, but because they sold they're fine.
Suppose things hadn't worked out, and they ended up with a home that was worth less than it was mortgaged for. They'd just walk away and let the bank foreclose, no sweat. So the choice a lot of home buyers faced was to either make a massive profit in a short time, or at worst make no profit and screw up their credit for a while. Not a bad deal, and a lot of people took the gamble. That's the real lesson we're seeing in the real estate crash, there's a fine line between investing and gambling. In fact, there's really no line, just a different level of risk premium.
What's been completely lost in all this is the value of labor. People have forgotten that wealth isn't created through gambling or investing or whatever you want to call it, but through work. Period.
mullingitover11.18.08 - 11:19 am
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When asked what his greatest accomplishment had been during his two terms as President, Andrew Jackson replied "I killed the Bank." He was talking about the "Second Bank of the United States", which was our country's second central bank.
So, why was Jackson so passionate about terminating the central bank? And why did he believe that central banks were so insidious? And why should you care?
A couple of reasons you might be interested to know about what motivated Jackson:
1. Though Jackson ended the central bank, it was re-created in 1913 under a new innocuous-sounding name "The Federal Reserve", which is still with us today.
2. Also, it's interesting to note that Andrew Jackson's populist message relating to banking helped to launch the Democratic party.
toweliesbong11.18.08 - 11:27 am
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Yeah, the same Andrew Jackson responsible for the "Trail of Tears"?
That guy's not really much of a hero.
JB11.18.08 - 11:52 am
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the monetary system works very well for the organizations that are using it to rob its subjects. central banks have been used throughout history to consolidate power and exploit the working class. it's a little arrogant to believe our current situation is an exception.
there are plenty of alternatives; just look at what's happening in south america right now. unfortunately, discussing alternatives with people who defend financial slavery is pointless because they rarely understand what they are defending.
if ur interested in how we got here
read this.
asparagus11.18.08 - 12:21 pm
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"That guy's not really much of a hero."
Who the fuck said he was a hero? I sure didn't. I only quoted him because he was very prescient and so not a libertarian.
toweliesbong11.18.08 - 1:03 pm
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There's no defending "financial slavery".
But that said, getting an education, gaining skills, working hard, paying your bills and avoiding debt, not buying a lot of stuff you don't need, and generally exercising common sense, will do more to keep you out of "financial slavery" than wasting time with protests and conspiracy theory.
If you look for excuses for why people can't get ahead, you can always find them (and the very elaborate ones involving global conspiracies are hilarious, except they always seem to tend toward the anti-Semitic, which is disappointing), but if you put that energy into looking for ways of getting ahead, you can usually find those too.
The Alternative 3 videos are pretty good though.
JB11.18.08 - 1:11 pm
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I don't know if it follows that the monetary system is robbing the common person. The current standard of living for the average person in the US is above and beyond the lifestyle of royalty from 100 years ago. We're relatively stinking rich. It makes little sense for our money supply to be artificially constrained by the value of gold. What if our wealth isn't really related to how much of a specific mineral we're able to dig out of the ground?
mullingitover11.18.08 - 1:12 pm
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Yes, but we're losing more and more of the middle class every year. Soon, there will still be plenty of wealth in the USA but it will be almost entirely in the hands of the elite, just like many developing countries around the world.
toweliesbong11.18.08 - 1:29 pm
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wow, JB loves cars AND the fed...who are you and when are you coming to the mosey so i can smack you in the mouf?!
Lance K11.18.08 - 6:52 pm
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OK kids we finanlly got Bush out !!! now its time for the Big money, Where and when in these Cities? any mopre info?
skano11.18.08 - 7:34 pm
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New rules apply....
Most All money in Banks GONE
All mortgages will be postoned till further notice.
All Socilal security is being phased OUT 7 years or less
all gov baked pensions gone. bartering in.
Military Rule until fighting stops or they just kill everyone.
Bikes will be in the New Third Order, so stock up on parts....No Brainer !!!...Repairing a bike and barting your service would be great.
Basic medical for all.
The rest is on your own...
Squaters rights are the rule of order as long as it is not claimed by someone.
Just some Happy thoughts
Maybe not.
you will survive. and even thrive.
It will be a hoot.
welcome to the Third World folks.
lardito02.18.09 - 1:18 pm
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I wonder if the economy collapses if I'll still have to pay back my student loans?
la duderina02.18.09 - 1:44 pm
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you will, but due to inflation, minimum wage will soon be $100/hr, so you'll be off the hook in no time!
tortuga_veloce02.18.09 - 1:54 pm
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check out Zietguiest addendem movie
It tells the story
Dedicated81802.18.09 - 9:46 pm
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Gold is NOT Wealth
Read: The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith. Published in 1776
Still applies to today
glassy10.6.09 - 5:01 pm
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remember the golden rule folks...
he who has the gold, makes the rules.
Roadblock10.6.09 - 5:54 pm
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JB if you are still reading this. The solution to this problem is real easy. Nationalize the FED. Second, have state banks so they can lend money to themselves and to enterprise (private and public) to fund project that will help the economy in their perspective states. Imagen that.....depositing money into an institution that will lend money back to people in your state so that people can run business and the state can fund infrastructural projects. No more bonds.... you just borrow from the state bank.
sexy10.6.09 - 6:09 pm
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oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh yeah it's real easy to end the federal reserve!
nationalize the FED? you socialistic commie!
Roadblock responding to a
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10.6.09 - 6:11 pm
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Finally some of you are waking up !
This affects all of us for years to come.
It's official as of 10/ 5/ 09
many of the worlds economic powers are planning on how to get out of the dollar
A economic new order is the plan aka NWO
The dollar is being collapsed to bring in a new base currency.
Your money will soon be worthless.
The only reason it has value is due to it's use as a base currency
It is not backed by anything
Dedicated81810.6.09 - 7:55 pm
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if we all stopped believing that gold and currency had value, it would cease to be worth anything!
anyone want to barter some tomatoes and basil for fruit or squash?
tortuga_veloce responding to a
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10.6.09 - 8:06 pm
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Silver is actually the better investment for us poor folks
a American eagle 1oz coin can still be had for about $20.00
Silver may also appriciate at a higher rate than gold.
also it may be easier to barter with siver coins if things compleatly collapse.
Stock up on food, dry goods like beans and rice can still be had for cheap,
and keep pretty long if stored properly
Get a firearm while you still can and buy as much ammo as you can afford.
yes a firearm you will need this in a collapse unless you plan on being
a victim as law enforcement will not be there for you.
And of course stock up on bike parts
tires, tubes, chains, ect
this stuff will be like gold.
Dedicated818 responding to a
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10.6.09 - 8:16 pm
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gold and silver will always have value
being scarce and not being able to be created or manufactured by man
they will always be of value
but good idea start growing some food.
Dedicated818 responding to a
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10.6.09 - 8:22 pm
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So those of you saying to buy gold, I have a question. Gold went from 950 to 1000 because of the Chinese buying up much gold at the time of that spike. What caused this last spike to 1040 over the last two days?
for all you gold bugs, if you don't know here is some good info
Gold Anti-Trust Action Committe
sexy10.6.09 - 9:41 pm
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The latest increase was likely due to the fact that Iran announced late last month that it's foreign currency reserves would henceforth be held in euros rather than dollars.
TLDR? We're fucked.
bananaphone responding to a
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10.7.09 - 3:10 am
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The story of the creation of the US Federal Reserve System:The Creature From Jekyll Island - G. Edward Griffintorrent/mp3
"The central bank is an institution of the most deadly hostility existing against the Principles and form of our Constitution. I am an Enemy to all banks discounting bills or notes for anything but Coin. If the American People allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the People of all their Property until their Children will wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered." -Thomas Jefferson
snowcone10.7.09 - 9:40 am
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Five years ago, gold was THE investment to make. Right now, not so much. Indeed, gold is a finite resource, but who are all the widely unheard of and intentionally unmined gold mines owned by? Revisit the DeBeers monopoly structure.
If history has taught any of us anything, I'd say the investment to make is debt.
Food, Brita filters, and bikes are good too..
tivu10.7.09 - 11:23 am
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you are thinking diamonds
anything with
intrinsic value such as gold is a good investment to make because it does not suffer from the inflation of a fiat currency such as the US dollar. making money on gold is achieved when the dollar devalues (inflation) while the purchasing power of the gold remains somewhat constant.
snowcone responding to a
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10.7.09 - 11:29 am
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WAT. DeBeers is a diamond cartel.
Money in any developed country IS debt.
Gold will always be valuable even if every currency on Earth became worthless overnight. This is partly because gold cannot be man-made, via science or alchemy. The other part being, it's fairly rare (and even when found has to be mined and extracted from ore/smelted to remove impurities).
bananaphone responding to a
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10.7.09 - 2:33 pm
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In the most profound financial change in recent Middle East history, Gulf Arabs are planning – along with China, Russia, Japan and France – to end dollar dealings for oil, moving instead to a basket of currencies including the Japanese yen and Chinese yuan, the euro, gold and a new, unified currency planned for nations in the Gulf Co-operation Council, including Saudi Arabia, Abu Dhabi, Kuwait and Qatar.
marino10.7.09 - 2:48 pm
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Marino! That's the exact article I was referring to in the post I made yesterday! LOLHIVEMIND.
bananaphone responding to a
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10.7.09 - 2:51 pm
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I stole it from Paul Bringetto who had posted it on FB.
Great minds think alike.
Anyway. I don't support simplistic cure all solutions like "end the fed", "return to the gold standard", "abolish the IRS", "colonize Mars", "throw out the illegals" etc.
But yeah George Bush's regime, cut taxes, started two wars and made everyone think they were rich with the real estate ponzi scheme.
Then there was an EPIC FAIL.
Now we print money to pay for all that shit and therefore the dollar is worth less than most other currencies. And it keeps falling.
Those who own assets in Euros and in Dollars see their Euro assets appreciate far ahead of the dollar.
The good news is that I have stocks and real estate in Europe. HaHa!
marino responding to a
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10.7.09 - 3:53 pm
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Gold is the new rule
India just bought 200 thousand tons and dumped dollars.
Everyone is following suit
Gold will soon be 2500.00 Just because paper money is worthless and now Governments need gold to support their money...
GOLD GOLD GOLD
One year from now is when all the shit will come down
Inflation wil be over 20 percent and it will last until our money is devalued at least 50 percent....
And all this time our politicians will be getting their pockets stuffed with lobbey money
When people finally start rebelling they will be killed and called rioters instead of revolutionaries and killed on the spot
Large areas of the country will be run by revolutionaries and our own army will have to kill thier own people
Major cities will survive due to a good defensive border, but food will be hard to find and farms will be run by the military .
It will be called The New War and millions will die
China will fall as will most Countries. Local War lords will have control of most of the outskirts around cities.
the population of this Earth will go down at least 90 percent and more if someone uses atomic weapons
some people will go underground and some may try and live in outer space, but it will not last
people who live in caves will live the longest ,
Crime is the rule of order, and no one will be ever safe.
Dollar? forget it No money Coins will be used. Gold coins
And finally Get ready for it.
It is comming
Buy all the medicine you can. it will be a valuble thing to trade with and use for when you get sick.
I am freaking out man
Larardo11.13.09 - 1:12 am
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That must be some of the good you been smoking
The govt will soon disclose that aliens do exist.
This will be the catalyst for new one world govt.
good idea ! go live in a cave.
Dedicated818 responding to a
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11.13.09 - 1:45 am
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yeah, they're just waiting till people are mature and responsible enough to handle technology like wireless earbuds until they burst our bubble and let us in on the galactic economy fueled by interplanetary war
sklank responding to a
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11.14.09 - 6:46 pm
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so i took a bus the other day and bought a gold chain off this guy for 50 bucks thinking it would appreciate in value...
got off the bus and tried to pawn it... i guess it wasn't gold
looked real though...
it's just a shiny rock, and shiny rocks are useless for anything but looking at and drooling
you know what made gold valuable?
bitches... dumb bitches who like shiny shit, and yes i mean women
but on the real real though it was just cause they thought gold was a piece of the sun and they worshipped the sun so whoever had the most "god" was almighty... but trip[ on this, you know why they wanted to be almighty and have shiny stuff? to get girls!!! duh...
fuck man... first women ruined everything and then a handful of inbred men who take themselves too seriously got together and started acting like bitches cause their dicks stopped working
fuck all this shit man, let's just ride our bikes. we're one step ahead of the assholes who are gonna be slitting eachothers throats for gasoline
sklank responding to a
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11.14.09 - 6:51 pm
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you bought a chain off someone on the bus thinking it was real gold!? ahahaha.
coldcut responding to a
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11.18.09 - 2:10 pm
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