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Just curious, would a day ridazz trip to go out and ride on catalina island/swim/eat/drink/make sweet love, be a feasible idea? with cost and everything?
You can walk most of the city of Avalon, but to explore the wilder side of Santa Catalina Island on your own you really need a bicycle. Many of Santa Catalina Island’s picturesque campgrounds, secluded beaches and rugged trails are best reached by two wheels. Daily bike permits are required to ride into the interior of the island. No permits are required to ride around Avalon. Bicycle rentals are available at two Avalon locations (see below).
Most of the cross-channel carriers will transport bicycles for a fee with advance reservations. If you prefer to leave your bikes at home, rentals are available at Brown’s Bikes and Catalina Auto & Bike Rental. Bicycles are allowed on the Safari Bus for a fee of $5.00 per bike.
Daily bike permits are required to ride into the interior of the island at a fee of $20 and are good up to two consecutive days. Annual bike permits are required at a fee of $60 for an individual and $85 for a family (spouse and minor children). Annual permits are valid for one year from date of purchase.
Due to the Island’s rugged interior, mountain bikes with all terrain knobby tires are required and riders must wear helmets that meet the safety standards set by either the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) or Snell Memorial Foundation. The roads open to bicycling are shown on the map (see below) and for the most part are improved gravel. There may be some road closures due to rain.
Bicycle permits must be obtained in-person at the Catalina Island Conservancy Office, 125 Claressa, 8:30 a.m. - 3:30 p.m. daily (may close for lunch). Permits are also available at Catalina's Airport-in-the-Sky (510-0143) and Two Harbors Visitors Services (310-510-4205) during their regular hours of operation.
i wonder if one permit would be enough for a large group of ridazz?
it looks like the boat will take our bikes, but, of course, they will charge us like 6 bucks each, im going to call em and see if we can get a group deal or something, because that would be some bullshit
I've always envisioned joining LA Co Sheriff's and getting posted on Catalina as one of their deputies.
Jurisdiction over an entire island, kind of like that movie with Denzel Washington, called the "Amazing Quinn" or some shit.
Sounds like cycling in communist China.
Why so many requirements and day passes?!
If we go, I say we dress to fit in. I'm talkin polo shirts, khaki shorts, boat shoes, properly rolled sweaters, Carrera sunglasses, ascots, button down short sleeve shirts, sherlock holmes style tobacco pipes, argyle, giant brandy snifters......THE WORKS!!
The real cream of the corn.
Someone that knows lady's fashion, what's the equivalent??
The ladiezz' equivalent would probably be a long sleeveless linen dress with enormous straw hat, espadrille flats, no jewelery, light make-up, hair tied in a low ponytail with a grosgrain ribbon. And a bottomless lowball glass of gin.
i didnt read this thread, but catalina sucks, unless youre
a) an asshole loaded with money taking a 'vacation'
b) an elementary school student taking a trip to toyon bay with your class
its all mountain bike trails and it costs a bunch of money to ride your bike out there because they are afraid you could hurt yourself. its all liability.
Me at Two Harbors. ------------------------------>
The baby in the back is in college now.
Yes Catalina is very much like Communist China (see what happens when environmentalists take over?) but it can be overcome because well... we don't have a choice. That's the only inhabited island we have around here. Unlike Greece which has hundreds. Going there in June. You are ALL invited.
There are two ways to approach Catalina.
From Avalon . Sleep in the campground which is 2 miles from Avalon and the beach (what knucklehead builds a campground on an island away from the beach?) spend the day on the beach. Rent kayaks, snorkel etc Not much riding.
Pros: Close to restaurants, supermarkets, cold beer
Cons: Not really a bike adventure
From Two Harbors. Two Harbors has one restaurant, one market and not much else. There is a campground right next to it or we can ride from there to an isolated beach in the back.
Pros: We'd do more riding
Cons: We'd have to bring in more stuff.
What kind of ride will this be? Will it be a day trip or an overnight trip with camping in the interior? Avalon is pretty small so you could probably ride around it in a few minutes unless you throw in a short loop to the airport and back. Your description sounds like mountain bikes.
For me, I'm hoping you're talking a mountain bike trip into the interior. As far as rules, I don't know Catalina very well but I think the Conservancy owns most of the island outside of the town of Avalon. Aside from the beat-up road to the airport and back, I can understand leaving thin tired bikes at home.
Marino, let's not make a federal case out of this. Were going to get there, ride into the camp, cook, eat, swim, campfire, ghost stories, throw buffalo chips, and then ride back home.
Anyone interested in maybe a side group of ridazz who want to mountain bike the interior on the same trip? Maybe do a 15-20 mile loop and ride back on the boat?
Are we talking about a day trip or an overnight trip?
Looks like there is a two day minimum for bike permits (2daysx$20=$40)
If we are going for a day I'm tempted to say forget the bikes, let's make it a hike. It would be 5 miles max one way.
Permits are required by the Catalina Island Conservancy and are available daily (two consecutive days) or yearly from date of purchase. Included in the permit fee is coverage for accident, liability, and life insurance while riding under permit on Catalina. Due to the Island's rugged interior, mountain bikes are required and riders must wear helmets that meet the safety standards set by either the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) or Snell Memorial Foundation. The roads open to bicycling are for the most part improved gravel.
For more information about biking on Catalina Island, and how to obtain a map, call (310) 510-310-2595 or (310) 510-0143 at Two Harbors, or View Mountain Biking Page ____________________________________________________________________________
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A great deal of the land on Catalina outside of Avalon is managed by a land conservancy. As the name may suggest to some of our more alert readers, the Conservancy is in the business of conserving the land and its ecosystems, not standing by and watching drunken tourists tear the shit out of it (with bikes, motorcycles, or anything else). That's why you have to get a permit. Nothing to do with a dictatorship of the proletariat, the Long March, Mao's Little Red Book, or anything else.
I can't go to Amboy this weekend, Borf, I'm still recuperating. No strenuous activity including bike riding--not that I could ride with the double vision I have right now. I would just end up sitting and watching everybody else have fun and shaking my fist and screaming "I HATE YOU SO MUCH!" like that blue guy in Cheat Commandos.
I'd really like to do this, so sometime in the next month or 2, please. I'm all too likely to be gone after that. I'm all about the bike->swim->bike->swim->make sweet love thing. Just not with Hartwick.
Don't want to derail your plans here but has anyone thought of taking either Two Harbors and coming back at Avalon? Or the other way? I did that years ago hiking. I went there hiking cause it was easier avoiding the officials in charge. They wanted you to stay on the dirt roads and some other crap. I just studied the maps and may sure I didn't miss the last boat home. I took the first boat to Avalon and the last boat back at Two Harbor.
I'm so very down, Hartwick. Count me in! No moutain biking cuz I would be a big allergic mess.....but I'll float around with the sharks and a mint julep whilst everyone bikes.
i have had a very busy few days of work, but once things calm down I can start talking to some people to help me plan this, mainly because my organization skills are laughable at best
i am good at making nice pictures for spoke cards though!
i can't read this thread since i'm at work but yeah...post it on the rides calendar. something in june would be cool so that it's warm enough to swim. i don't know if i'll mountain bike either so i can take off with ms steph or something
just make sure to post what is happening, how much it will cost and time/date. sounds like a fun idea!
Just early info for cost:
Round trip on Catalina express (leaves from san pedro, queen mary, and downtown LB): $66 ($60 + $6 bike fee)
Two day bike pass: $20 + $40 deposit (only required if you plan on mountain biking)
Camping is $12 per adult and $6 per child per night. If we get a group of 20 or more they say call them and hopefully we could get a price break, I'm just not a fan of per person camping fees vs per site.
One person cost: ~$110 for two days/nights (+ $40 refunded deposit for bike permit again only required if you plan on mountain biking)
I have a frend that works for catalina fyler out of new port beach. Last year she got me and my fam to the island for about $20.00 round trip. I'll call her and hoook it up.
Just a note, I should be able to get us a whole $7.50 off catalina express tickets through work, yay government discounts.
Adults $51.50 (GATE PRICE $59.00)
Children (2-11) $43.50 (GATE PRICE $45.50)
@Jazzy Phat Nastee
a round trip ticket from LBC to Avalon is about 66 bucks...
I am not bringing much $$ i plan of hitting up a store and making sandwiches all weekend...yummy
WOW! I would love to bike around Catalina...I LOVE that place & would love to go..is it really rough/difficult to do? Although I might suggest doing the day trip after Salton Sea, but that's just me...
sinaphile responding to a comment by natefrogg
01.7.10 - 12:25 pm
however i have never biked over there before, sooo, i'm not really sure what to expect! lol
i know, from reading this thread, that there is a permit you have to buy to ride your bike outside of avalon, it's 20$ per day or 60$ for a whole year, i'll probably opt for the year then return again another day
the ferry charges extra to take your bike too
so, as far as rough i think those are the roughest parts hehe
from the sound of it the biking doesn't sounds too difficult or rough, definitely need a mountain bike to do it though
i do know that you need to watch out for big buffalo poops as you're riding around, haha
natefrogg responding to a comment by sinaphile
01.7.10 - 12:31 pm
keeping it simple, mountain biking around the island, dranks, danks, and sandwiches
i'll post a ride shortly, i'll put all the pricing info and stuffs in the ride, i will call it "natefrogg's catalina excursion" and will post a link back to it
this will be my first ride that i post, i'm usually just solo and once in a while show up for one of the group rides here, a couple folks have met me, dude running k-town rides can vouch i'm not some psycho creeper or some crap
i have no idea about organizing, so i'm just planning this as i am going for certain, if folks want to come along then ride on =)
That's such a bummer, cuz I REALLY want to go to this & do it too but I couldn't do it this month. Realistically, it would be so preferable (for me, at least, not sure about others) to do after Salton Sea...there's no way to do it then? If not, I *totally* understand... :)
sinaphile responding to a comment by natefrogg
01.10.10 - 4:43 pm
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Ridazz Roulette!
Me at Two Harbors. ------------------------------>
/not drink their 6 dollar beers, drink our own much cheaper beers
In the meantime...I discovered there are hundreds of islands around Los Angeles. Bike accessible, free to travel to, no permits required.
Mr. Pascal,
@ Borfo,