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Thread started by monovsstereo at 01.25.09 - 12:14 pm

I don't really care what your own personal opinions are, but when you make them plainly visible for all to see, you leave yourself open to criticism.

As far as I am concerned, you are not welcome. Obviously I don't speak for everyone here. But in my eyes, you should feel free to kindly fuck off.

The GLBT community is represented not just on the rides in LA but here on MR itself, and anyone that refers to gay/bi/etc people as "abominations" needs to check their fucking head.

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not sure whats going on but yes we here at MR dont take kindly to hate against our fellow gay ridazz. we can haz respect plz?



funanu
01.25.09 - 12:17 pm

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Time will tell...but, would you bet your eternal soul on the strength of that statement?



prplspyder@aol.com
01.25.09 - 12:17 pm

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Shut the fuck up prplspyder.

Are you seriously going to defend calling fellow riders abominations? Blaming wildfires on gay advocacy? Seriously?

PLEASE shut the fuck up, and don't let me see you on any rides.



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 12:19 pm

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So, basically, you are willing to defend people's rights to free speech, as long as they agree with your indefensible position?



prplspyder@aol.com
01.25.09 - 12:22 pm

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You can hold whatever caveman views you want, just don't come around a community like this and expect it to be accepted. I never said you can't spout your hateful bullshit.



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 12:23 pm

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Of course, I assume you refer to my blog, and here's the funny part: the basis of that blog essentially agrees wth letting them emonstrate exactly as THEY planned, not interfering at all.

And people are talking about respect?



prplspyder@aol.com
01.25.09 - 12:24 pm

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Because Drew fails at clarifiying, he posted this because this prlsypder persona wrote a couple blog entries on myspace about how being gay is horrible and that we shouldn't give them any grace with jesus [ so weird saying that as i'm MOT ]

generally, i feel as if everyone is entitled to their opinion and doesn't deserve criticism, but when you thrust your opinion into the public sphere, and sort of get preachy with it, i think it is perfectly valid to counteract that opinion.

and generally, MR is a group based on community, inclusiveness and acceptance, so bigotry is generally not welcome. and i agree that what was posted was pretty horrendous, but unless hes directly bringing it into MR [ which he might be with the church ride, but going to church is perfectly legit. ] we probably shouldn't jump down his throat.



tinycities
01.25.09 - 12:24 pm

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Oh wow, prplspyder, I'm glad you were so willing to "allow" the "abominations" to "preach godlessness." Fuck off at once.



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 12:26 pm

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"if im bi-curious and I was somehow created by jesus, than I think jesus is a little bi-curious himself."

-Leopold "Butters" Stotch



funanu
01.25.09 - 12:31 pm

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One or two of you just posted it completely backwards, and if you had the stones for a REAL dialogue, you'd have heard that it's not about denying them Grace through Jesus, but one more thing some people need grace because of.

Of course, when intolerance is YOUR first approach (which it totally was LIKE A TOAL HYPOCRITE) you're probably not going to hear things like that, you just won't get the chance.



prplspyder@aol.com
01.25.09 - 12:32 pm

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there is no jesus. well jesus might possibly have existed but he sure as hell wasn't no son of god because there is no god. oh no!



la duderina
01.25.09 - 12:34 pm

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haha calling intolerance on intolerance. I love it.

let's post a quote from one of your blogs shall we?

I can't be the only one who's tired of (and even you JUST did it) hearing an activity like prison sex described as 'happy and bright' (which is what 'gay' means). Or, people saying 'Love is never wrong' with rainbow colored letters. It's one thing to be compassionate, but God (...is Love...) even draws the line somewhere. Usually somewhere around Soddom and Gomorrah.

I'm not suggesting we need to start slaughtering !@#$?sexuals, but (as we learned from Lot, like Noah before him) perhaps we should be thinking of how to get out of the way.


HAHAHAHA. Please. The fact that you think any of this is at all worthy of even discussing let alone defending is laughable.



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 12:34 pm

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the bible is bullshit.



la duderina
01.25.09 - 12:36 pm

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"how come everybody hates me just because I hate minorities? they're so intolerant!!"



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 12:36 pm

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mullingitover
01.25.09 - 12:36 pm

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Advice dog! I love you. Anyway the point of this wasn't to argue at all. Just calling a bigot out and letting him know that his antics won't fly with me.



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 12:37 pm

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Well... PRPLSPYDER you'll probably never be core elite now.



boogalooSHRIMP
01.25.09 - 12:38 pm

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It's funny how anti-gay rhetoric is coming from someone whos handle is purple (Pride Color).



boogalooSHRIMP
01.25.09 - 12:44 pm

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i have to say i understand where you're coming from with your opinions on your myspace.. but blaming the deaths of thousands of people / people loosing their homes on !@#$?sexuality is pretty disgusting.

yet again the religion i grew up in actually acclimates for the times. and even the more conservative sects started ordinating rabbis that were openly gay, and any religion / collective that is willing to contemplate their errors/judgement and improve upon them/progress with modernity rather than just saying they're the cause of suffering is awesome in my book.



tinycities
01.25.09 - 12:44 pm

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haha!! I was thinking the same thing



la duderina
01.25.09 - 12:44 pm

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as Shrimp, that is. I was thinking the same thing as Shrimp up there



la duderina
01.25.09 - 12:45 pm

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Must be that time of the month again.

I'm going to take all of this banter with a grain of salt and see how far it all progresses.



bentstrider
01.25.09 - 12:45 pm

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boogalooSHRIMP
01.25.09 - 12:45 pm

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boogalooSHRIMP
01.25.09 - 12:46 pm

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ahhahahaha



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 12:46 pm

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Or maybe he's a Phoenician? Those guys really got screwed in the Punic Wars, man. I'd be bitter too.




mullingitover
01.25.09 - 12:46 pm

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boogalooSHRIMP
01.25.09 - 12:47 pm

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boogalooSHRIMP
01.25.09 - 12:47 pm

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boogalooSHRIMP
01.25.09 - 12:48 pm

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boogaloo I'm glad you're having fun with this thread



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 12:48 pm

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Wow, that's a statement I can stand on pretty easily...just break out Genesis, and read about what happened to Lot, or Noah.

It's pointless for me to defend the Bible. Notonly is there a God but He's long since proven Himself willing and able to defend His Word Himself.

you can believe yourself to be attacking me, or my position. But, for your own sake (and !@#$?sexuals2for that matter) I hope you realize before Judgement Day, that The Truth has been around this whole time.

Moses predicted the Holocaust about 5,000 years before it happened, Daniel talked about Jesus 400 years before the fisrt Christmas, but the real humdinger for this thread is Jonah.

Yes, Jonah, now forget the Whale.

Jonah is the story of Nineveh, and it's being scheduled for destruction, being allowed to live because they repented before God. It's a short book, if you're literate give it a whirl.

Or,try the first chapter of Romans, and read up on the root cause of !@#$?sexuality...and realize this very thread has the same beginnings of turning one's back on God, leading to !@#$?sexuality.

Last, it's just an invitation. You don't have to come with me to the Bridge. I believe you will be better off with God in your life or I wouldn't bother to try to convince you of that fact.

May the Lord bless you and keep you,

-Curtis



prplspyder@aol.com
01.25.09 - 12:48 pm

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"Time will tell...but, would you bet your eternal soul on the strength of that statement?"

I'll totally. Burn in hell. For my gays. I am an advocate of the gay community.

As emerging members of society we are obliged to propagate benevolence, for we are all born equal and deserve to be treated that way.


Hate and harassment doesn’t just manifest itself between strangers anymore: it confronts friends and even families. We are bombarded by a montage of society's idealistic image of what love is supposed to be in the most subtle way, everyday. Dictated and censored by morality the LGBTQ community endures purgatory day in day out, not being able to express thoughts or feeling in fear of persecution. Their embedded shame is voiced by silence; a silence which must be broken in the name of humanity.We can all relate to the isolation that comes with discrimination and to allow hate to sprout from our own blood would rob the human race of its redemption. Yet the world won’t listen and continues to force a standard of norms for love. But we must not count on others and take it upon ourselves to set an example of acceptance. For a world where love is ambiguous is not worth living in.



Dear Christian Bigot,

Where do you get off?.............



Tarmonster.
01.25.09 - 12:49 pm

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boogalooSHRIMP
01.25.09 - 12:49 pm

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Curtis, are you a biblical literalist?



mullingitover
01.25.09 - 12:49 pm

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bible bible bible tl;dr.

Are you basically admitting you're a bigot or what? Also there is no FUCKING way I would ride with you to church are you fucking serious?



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 12:50 pm

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LOL HE CAN'T EVEN TYPE THE WORD !@#$?



boogalooSHRIMP
01.25.09 - 12:51 pm

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oh... i guess it filters it.



boogalooSHRIMP
01.25.09 - 12:51 pm

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OK BACK TO SPIDERS.



boogalooSHRIMP
01.25.09 - 12:51 pm

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I think MR has a word filter for H O M O



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 12:51 pm

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boogalooSHRIMP
01.25.09 - 12:52 pm

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wooooo!! hahahaa



la duderina
01.25.09 - 12:52 pm

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Actually I have a pretty interesting video to contribute. Especially for biblical literalists.

Disclaimer: the conspiracy theory stuff in the video I'm not too sure about, but the history of religion is really telling. Enjoy.




mullingitover
01.25.09 - 12:52 pm

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wait... GIRL ON GIRL !@#$?sexuality is ok right??? cuz i like those pictures better.



boogalooSHRIMP
01.25.09 - 12:54 pm

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yeah you bible bangers only need to watch the first third of that movie that was just posted.



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 12:54 pm

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HEY PURPLE SPIDER CHECK THIS OUT!!






boogalooSHRIMP
01.25.09 - 12:55 pm

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just all take some drugs and be happy. seriously.



_iJunes
01.25.09 - 12:55 pm

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http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Are_there_purple_spiders



boogalooSHRIMP
01.25.09 - 12:56 pm

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I believe in God myself.

As far as Divine Intervention, that all depends on who is truly deserving of it.

The rest of the time, we're pretty much on our own, while God has the rest of this Universe, and many alternate ones, to watch over and attend to.

And I'll stick to this belief system until the day I feel truly, touched.



bentstrider
01.25.09 - 12:57 pm

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I THINK WE GOT ON THE WRONG FOOT HERE.



prplspyder@aoI.com
01.25.09 - 12:59 pm

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I have actually stood up to pastors railing TO a straight crowd condemning 'those !@#$?sexuals', so they could sound tough on sin and get a family oriented crowd to fill the collection plate. Ii was not popular at that Church. As you may have guessed popularity is not my goal.

That said, I also believe God does not approve of that behavior and so I do not condone (obviously) or recommend it.

'All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God' - In no way does that mean 'just those gays, but WE'RE ok'. It means EVERYONE.



prplspyder@aol.com
01.25.09 - 12:59 pm

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You are not the victim here, prplspyder.



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 1:00 pm

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i think its hilarious that your up on your religious high horse about !@#$?sexuality and taking lines from the "old" testament.



widowmaker
01.25.09 - 1:00 pm

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How about you two just settle
And end this beef in a drag race?
How on the next crank mob too infront of 500 people to witness it.

Geez!



madmike
01.25.09 - 1:01 pm

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If I win, he has to stop being a backwards hatemonger?



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 1:02 pm

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Its so sad we live in such an intolerant religious society where our leaders have to pretend they are christian, scientific learning is discouraged, and rights are taken away from minorities by majority votes. Homosexuals are no different than any other minority, voting to take away their rights would be like voting against blacks or jews or women.



larsenf
01.25.09 - 1:02 pm

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HOMO



i had to do it.



_iJunes
01.25.09 - 1:02 pm

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ok, I've never had to hack someone else's account to put words in their mouth to get my point across...



prplspyder@aol.com
01.25.09 - 1:03 pm

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junu you're not helping



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 1:03 pm

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I have actually stood up to gays railing TO a gay crowd condemning 'those heterosexuals', so they could sound flamby on sin and get a gay-oriented crowd to fill the circle jerk cracker. Ii was not popular at that Church. As you may have guessed popularity is not my goal.

That said, I also believe God DOES approve of that behavior and so I do condone (obviously) or recommend it... and rather enjoy a good cottaging once in a while.

'All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God' - In no way does that mean 'just those gays, but WE'RE ok'. It means EVERYONE.

Lick me please.



prplspyder@aoI.com
01.25.09 - 1:03 pm

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I didn't hack your shitty account. You make yourself look like a fool enough as it is already.



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 1:04 pm

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I am entirely in favor of "preaching godlessness." Down with God (or gods)!

I'm not going to bother reading this dude's Myspace page (now Myspace, that's an abomination), but it seems clear that rational discussion is not his strong suit, so I'm just going to ignore him. Having an online shouting match with someone that mentally inflexible isn't going to change anyone's mind.

I guess I'd have a hard time getting worked up over some gullible idiots denying gays such imaginary cookies as "salvation" were it not for the fact that the same gullible idiots are trying to deny then such concrete rights as "legal marriage." Fuck bigotry.



nathansnider
01.25.09 - 1:05 pm

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I'm not at all trying to change his "mind." I'm telling him to fuck off and don't come back!



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 1:05 pm

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prplspyder@aoI.com
01.25.09 - 1:06 pm

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cmon guys give him his account back. you don't really want to be associated with aol anyway, right?



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 1:08 pm

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i wasn't making a point.

i was destroying the filter.

fuck filters. internet can't stop me.

yay for irrelevancy



_iJunes
01.25.09 - 1:08 pm

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It's apparent he gets off on the attention. He's an attention whore and the best way to combat someone like this is just ignore him and his comments. Stop feeding the fire by interjecting and opposing his ignorant views.

Peddle your shit elsewhere. We need MODS... close this thread.



Jazzy Phat Nastee
01.25.09 - 1:09 pm

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yea this was fun i mean it was like what, 1000 vs 1?



larsenf
01.25.09 - 1:10 pm

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nah a bunch of the posts were fake posts posted by someone that hacked into his acct (or just guessed his pw. I bet it was a 5 letter word that started with J)



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 1:10 pm

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NO PLEASE!!!!

DON'T IGNORE ME!!!!



prplspyder@aoI.com
01.25.09 - 1:11 pm

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don't close this thread.



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 1:12 pm

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whoever is posting as prplspyder, please stop.



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 1:12 pm

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For those who don't have time to sit through the film linked above, here's the synopsis of the first and most relevant part:
Part I, entitled "The Greatest Story Ever Told" questions religions as original god-given stories, arguing the Christian religion specifically is mainly derived from other religions, astronomical facts, astrological myths and traditions; in turn derived from or sharing elements with other ones. In furtherance of the Jesus myth hypothesis, this part argues that the historical Jesus is a literary and astrological hybrid, nurtured politically in the interest of control.

Horus, the Egyptian Sun God, is introduced as having a number of attributes similar to many other religious deities which came after him, including but not limited to Attis, Krishna, Dionysus, Mithra and Jesus Christ; these attributes including virgin birth on December 25th, 12 disciples, burial for 3 days, resurrection, and performing of miracles.[10]

The film offers explanations for some of these common attributes. To explain the origin of the December 25 birth, the film points out that the Winter solstice has the shortest day, and therefore, the shortest amount of sunlight, of the year, and that about three days after it, sunlight time could be seen growing, thus marking the birth of a "God of light" or Sun God. Another Christian-astrological similarity, according to the film, is that the three stars in Orion's belt (called the "Three Kings") align with Sirius on December 25, the brightest star in the sky, and point to the Sun's rise on the horizon. This is equated to the Nativity of Jesus, where, according to the film, three "kings" follow the star in the east to locate the birth of Jesus. Furthermore, around December 25, Sun rises in the vicinity of Virgo, the constellation known as Virgin, which refers to the origin of Jesus' virgin birth. Comparation of sunset in the vicinity of Crux and Jesus' death on the cross is based on similar principle. In addition, parallels as walking on water (reflection at dawn/dusk) and turning water into wine (ripening of grapes) are shown as metaphoric miracles, explained as the influence of the Sun.

Christianity is then said to be a Gnostic myth, historized by the Roman Empire for social control of Europe through doctrines established at the First Council of Nicea. The Dark Ages, the Inquisitions and the Crusades are given as events which maintained Europe's submission to The Vatican through Christianity. The following is said in conclusion: "Christianity, along with all other theistic belief systems [...] empowers those who know the truth, but use the myth to manipulate and control societies. [...] It reduces human responsibility to the effect that "God" controls everything, and in turn awful crimes can be justified in the name of Divine Pursuit. [...] The religious myth is the most powerful device ever created, and serves as the psychological soil upon which other myths can flourish."


Basically the story of Jesus is an allegory for sun worship adapted from a long history of Mediterranean astrology cults. Sorry guys, you're worshiping the sun and you don't even realize it.

So why not stop picking on people for the way they were born, and instead work on giving up the sun worship?



mullingitover
01.25.09 - 1:14 pm

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Or, if you're going to use your Sun-worship to justify being a hateful prick, do it somewhere else!



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 1:15 pm

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Dear delusional, foaming-at-the-mouth, jihad-loving, hate-spreading twit,

Take your faerie stories somewhere else. There is no invisible man in the sky watching you. Now stop worrying and go have some fun.

Also, come out of the closet. Really.





ephemerae
01.25.09 - 1:17 pm

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Religion is the opiate of the masses- Karl marx



coldcut
01.25.09 - 1:19 pm

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comrade!



la duderina
01.25.09 - 1:20 pm

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I think if anything the sun is entitled to all the worship it gets. Without the sun none of this would be possible, less you forget.

I'd rather worship the sun anyday that some deity who picks and chooses who's going where and why excluding those that dont fit the norm.

Go Sun!!



Jazzy Phat Nastee
01.25.09 - 1:22 pm

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we SHOULD be worshiping Mother Earth. but instead we abuse her...



la duderina
01.25.09 - 1:23 pm

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What about tidal forces?? Without tidal forces churning the primordial soup, nothing on earth would exist... My faith system: Gravitational exertion.



boogalooSHRIMP
01.25.09 - 1:24 pm

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Don't forget Gravity!!

Go Gravity!!



Jazzy Phat Nastee
01.25.09 - 1:26 pm

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comrade!

la duderina
01.25.09 - 4:20 pm


heeey!





coldcut
01.25.09 - 1:28 pm

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all praise RA!!!!!!!!

and GRAVITY!!!



coldcut
01.25.09 - 1:29 pm

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keep god out of midnight ridazz.



funanu
01.25.09 - 1:31 pm

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Keep midnight ridazz way from God.



boogalooSHRIMP
01.25.09 - 1:31 pm

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That might have something to do with it if I hadn't come to Christ (and no, I wasn't halucinating that particular night) while walking down a road in the middle of nowhere contemplating putting a serrated blade in my femoral artery because my life had fallen apart around me.

I never wantd to be one of the hypocritical Christians I lived among (Ohio is a God forsaken rock, just so ya know). Those people taught me a lot about what I DON'T believe, and what underhanded bigotry is all about. Trust me real bigots wouldn't be posting in a forum, they would try to hide the fact that they are against !@#$?sexuals, so that they can better wrong them without fear of prosecution under 'equal opportunity' and similar laws. I am openly against it and believe in discourse, not persecution (open or closed)to solve what I DO see as a problem.

Unlike the person who hacked my account, because that was about as bad as any of the REAL underhanded backstabbing bigots I've dealt with. they would totally applaud that move.

Some of the people in these threads are about as willing to engage in a public discourse as the average Bush administration official.





prplspyder@aol.com
01.25.09 - 1:31 pm

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dude... it's pretty clear that people don't want you here, what are you still doing posting here?

You want to engage in logical and communal discourse? With a community that's not interested in your ideas?



boogalooSHRIMP
01.25.09 - 1:35 pm

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You're not the victim, purple spyder. Fuck off.



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 1:35 pm

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dude... you've already offended someone who I actually don't know that well (monro) but I think is cool... who do you think I'm gonna side with?




boogalooSHRIMP
01.25.09 - 1:38 pm

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monro=monovs



boogalooSHRIMP
01.25.09 - 1:38 pm

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What the fuck is an average bush administration official? Point one out, go ahead... point one out.. or did that just sound cool as you typed it out?



boogalooSHRIMP
01.25.09 - 1:41 pm

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I hope you don't think that being openly bigoted is better than keeping it to yourself, and I hope you don't really think that someone hacking your account is as bad as calling gay people "abominations."



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 1:42 pm

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wow this asshole is really taking all the fun out of fundamentalism.



ephemerae
01.25.09 - 1:42 pm

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@ prplspyder@aol.com

WTF?

Look Preacher man,

this comes from someone who was born catholic, then born again christian... yeah i was a church goer once. but then I realize that governments and churches especially modern western old world religions of the east and europe. We need to drop that shit and find that spiritual bliss the way the universe intended for us to do. im not denouncing god or the existence of one god/creator or creative energy. The ancient religions had it right. a better connection to the earth. everything else is systematic and archaic scripture. To be a better preacher you should study up like one. To be more like jesus, buddah, confusius, alah and other great figures of good deeds and the message of doing good to all and loving all. there that's it. LOVE is that binding force and energy. that energy that created this universe and all of us was partly made up of love and still is....

read up my friend and learn to be more accepting.

Jesus was a great man, a loving, accepting man. Buit also are gonna tell me Jesus wasn't human? He had a Penis and he was a man. He had those same human urges. Jesus and his diciples were rockstar status to many women of that time and like rockbands it can be almost 100% certain that jesus and his buddies got lots and lots of adulterous and lusty sex during their crusades.


be more like a libertarian Christian if you are going to preach your gospel. don't judge and condemn any soul based on their sexual orientation. That's not very jesus like of you.

read: THE HERO WITH A THOUSAND FACES
by JOSEPH C. CAMPBELL (R.I.P.)


Also do some fucking yoga and get that stick or get rid of that feeling like you have a stick up your ass. get connected with your seven chakras and the seven chakras of the earth and then and only then will you begin to experience a fuller bliss, a spiritual bliss.

also, look up ESOTHERIC religions.



Eddie GOpez
01.25.09 - 1:43 pm

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Hacking is such a loose term.. More like mimickry:

prplspyder@aoI (capital i).com

But then again, it's much more romantic to claim your account got "hacked."

fucking gunther.



boogalooSHRIMP
01.25.09 - 1:44 pm

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Jesus was in love with a whore too. they had a lil' some some. and the moral here is that he accepted a whore. MaryMagdalen



Eddie GOpez
01.25.09 - 1:46 pm

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good eye carter! I hadn't caught that!



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 1:48 pm

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Those with a keen eye for html (and possibly those with a keen eye for letter spacing) will realize that no one's account has been hacked.

People, if you actually want this bozo to go away, then stop engaging him and his pathetic delusions. If you keep telling him to fuck off, he'll keep coming back with the last word. It's like a fundamental law of internet idiocy.

But if you want to keep providing entertainment for the rest of us in the peanut gallery, then by all means, continue...



nathansnider
01.25.09 - 1:48 pm

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D'oh! Beaten to the punch...



nathansnider
01.25.09 - 1:49 pm

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The more he posts, the more people see what kind of nonsense he believes.



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 1:50 pm

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uhoh i better go register boogal(captial i)shrimp lolz.



boogalooSHRIMP
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WIZZAO
01.25.09 - 1:54 pm

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Dear Dr. Laura,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the !@#$?sexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

1. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev. 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

4. Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev. 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than !@#$?sexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread. (cotton/polyester blend) He also tends to curse and blaspheme alot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev.24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.
http://www.atheistalliance.org/humor/dr_laura.php



JB
01.25.09 - 1:59 pm

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I'm listening to Van Halen right now. Pandora is so awesome.



ephemerae
01.25.09 - 1:59 pm

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Ok, you got me on the 'it's just me trying LOOK like I'm putting words in your mouth, I didn't ACTUALLY hack it.' I didn't see that coming, sorry.

But, you have yet to convince God (see, it's not ME that judges, condemns or has to be convinced) that !@#$?sexuality should be allowed (but Him).

Bush administratiuon oficial? If I can't find one in the background of ANY of his press conferences, I can always point to 'W' himself.

See it's called 'strategery,' you gotta have aback-up plan!





prplspyder@aol.com
01.25.09 - 2:01 pm

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I agree that eating shellfish is an abomination because it's fucking grossssss



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 2:02 pm

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IN YO MOUF



ephemerae
01.25.09 - 2:02 pm

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Guys, you can't ask him to defend any of his backwards beliefs, because he just takes them straight from a 2000 year old book written by men, and defers to someone who doesn't post on the board (lol) when asked to back up his hate.



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 2:03 pm

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HOW TO IRRITATE AN ATHEIST

Some foolproof methods to irritate your favorite atheist. Just be careful how you use them, or you may start wondering why the atheist is strangling you.

1) Ask them why they are bitter against God.

2) Tell them that if there's no God, they might as well go out and kill people.

3) Ask them to pray with you.

4) Invite their children to go to church with you.

5) Insist that there is a God, and show them where in the Bible it says so.

6) Hide Chick tracts in clever places around their office.

7) Tell them that the universe is too complex to "just exist," and must have been created by a God who "just exists."

8) Make up statistics.

9) End a discussion with "Well, I know you're smarter than I am, but I know I'm right."

10) Accuse them of persecuting you.

11) Bring up arguments that make no sense whatsoever; criticze their response with "You're just not making sense."

12) Use multiple versions of Pascal's Wager as though you thought them up yourself.

13) Use the Second Law of Thermodynamics to disprove evolution.

14) Post inane arguments on the Internet, and never follow up on them.

15) Say that seperation of church and state isn't in the Constitution; insist that the Constitution is based on the Ten Commandments.

16) Cite Kent Hovind as a legitimate source of information.

17) ...and call him "Dr. Hovind."

18) Tell them they know in their hearts that God exists.

19) Point out that we all take things on faith.

20) Before starting an argument, say "You're an atheist? That means you're going to hell!"

21) After losing the argument say, "I pity you."

22) Accuse them of willfully ignoring the "obvious truth."

23) Use bad math to back up your claims.

24) Drink the last beer in the fridge.

25) ...and buy natural light to replace it.

26) Witness for Jesus, and completely ignore anything your competition says.

27) Call him a meanie.

28) Tell him you don't care what you say or prove, you will still have your faith.

29) When given a Bible verse that looks bad, tell him that's what the verse says, but that's not what it means.

30) Argue that the Bible stories are not myths . . . they're parables. And they're all true!

31) Lead off your criticism of the Big Bang theory with the disclaimer that you're not a physicist like he is.

32) Lead off your suggestions for ways to prove that Noah's Flood occured with the disclaimer that you're not a geologist like he is.

33) Overwhelm him with your knowledge of science, using examples: "And because of entropy you have to press the nozzle on the spray can. The nozzle is entropy."

34) Use Latin a lot.

35) Maintain that the King James Version is THE Bible; ignore questions as to who was saved prior to 1611.

36) Tell him that Moses wrote the Books of Moses.

37) Explain that the lack of proof doesn't mean it didn't happen.

38) ...and give him a blank look when he says that all people tried for a crime would go to jail.

39) Blame absolutely everything wrong in society on evolution.

40) Repeat something over and over, as if that made it true.

41) Repeat something over and over, as if that made it true.

42) Repeat something over and over, as if that made it true.

43) Tell him that he acknowledges Christ every time he uses "A.D." -- which, of course, stands for "After Death."

44) Accuse him of being an agnostic, since he isn't 100% positive that God does not exist.

45) Insist that the Bible is meant to be taken literally -- all except that verse he just showed you.

46) Tell him that God works in mysterious ways.

47) ...and we're too small to comprehend his reasoning.

48) ...and we shouldn't think of him as "how he should be."

49) Point out that the fact that he talks about God so much proves God's existence.

50) Tell him you know God exists because Mount Everest exists.

51) If a plane crashes killing 300 passengers and crew, but one little girl survives with only third-degree burns, tell him that this miracle proves the existence of God.

52) Insist that Noah's Ark and the Shroud of Turin are real.

53) ...and tell him about the special on FOX where you saw it.

54) When he shows you a verse about genocide, ask him how he dares to question the morality of God.

55) Punch him in the face. Hard.

56) When asked to prove a statement you made, say that you already proved it.

57) Tell him that we all fall short of God's grace.

58) Insist that faith is the only logical answer.

59) No matter what he quotes from the Bible, say that it's out of context.

60) ...and when he points out that the quotes are in correct context, tell him you need to be a Christian to understand the true meaning of the Bible.

61) Tell him you must study the Bible for many years to reject Christianity.

62) ...and when he points out that you reject Islam despite never having studied the Qu'ran, say that you have faith, and faith is all you need.

63) Ask him how he knows God isn't real if he can't see the air.

64) Sigh, shake your head, and say "I just know that someday you'll need Jesus."

65) Talk about how you used to be a miserable, sinning, drug-abusing, alcoholic, sex-addicted, spouse-beating criminal until you found God.

66) Change your handle every couple weeks.

67) Knock on his door at 9:00 in the morning and offer him a pamphlet.

68) Tell him that God loves him, even if he doesn't love himself.

69) Admonish him to have sex for reproductive purposes only.

70) Tell him about Christ's plan for salvation for the billionth time.

71) Refuse to debate.

72) Name a bunch of smart Christian people.

73) ...and when he names a bunch of smart atheist people, call him stupid.

74) Attribute every apparent error in the Bible to mistranslation.

75) ...and then pull up a mistranslation from Isaiah to prove that Jesus fulfilled prophecy.

76) Burn him at the stake.

77) When shown that the Bible says that Pi=3, say that the Hebrews didn't know anything about science, so it's not their fault.

78) When shown the creation account in Genesis, insist that the Hebrews had all kinds of scientific savvy, being inspired by God.

79) Lead him on until the very last moment, then tell him no . . . not until you're married.

80) Insist that a person who makes Christianity look bad was not a True Christian.

81) Claim intellectual superiority on the grounds that only smart people read the Bible.

82) Smile smugly and tell him that there are no atheists in foxholes.

83) Quote Psalm 14:1 to him.

84) ...and then tell him that you think highly of him, and want to be his friend.

85) Give him the special gift of his very own "paraphrased" modern Bible.

86) Speak to him with a fake Austrailian accent.

87) Cite my Formatted Theology page as a collection of successful proofs for God's existence.

88) Threaten to kill yourself if he doesn't believe.

89) Equivocate scientific faith with religious faith, and conclude that, metaphysically, you are both in the same boat.

90) Claim that archaeology is proof of the Bible's truth.

91) Misconstrue logical terms in order to prove that logic does not work.

92) Claim that logic is the atheist's god.

93) Claim that atheism is not only a belief -- it's a knowledge claim.

94) Support your ludicrous contentions with "Most scholars agree that..."

95) Use only circular reasoning.

96) Claim that the atheist only uses circular reasoning.

97) Claim that circular reasoning is legitimate due to circular reasoning being legitimate.

98) Use the phrase "Hate the sin, love the sinner" as a blanket response to the notion that Christianity is at fault for something.

99) State that Christianity has done a lot of good along with all the mass murder.

100) When asked to explain a theological concept, compare it to something simple, like "water," and then misunderstand that you have incorrectly labeled the constructs of your analogy, then dismiss the whole thing with, "You've just got to have faith."

101) Upon hearing that he is an atheist, jump back reflexively, as if you don't want to catch whatever it is he's got.

102) ...then look at him as if he were a diseased leper who just spit in your eye.

103) End all your posts with John 3:16.

104) ...or "God Bless."

105) When he takes the time and trouble to explain where your analogy or interpretation is at fault, begin your response with a sigh, so he'll know how patient you're being.

106) Open a minor-league baseball game with the national anthem, followed by a gospel quartet singing a hymn, and solemn prayer. (True story!)

107) Open and close a martial arts class with obligatory prayer, including the spectators. (Another true story!)

108) Claim that God chooses who is going to heaven and humans have nothing to do with his decision, but he's going to hell because he sinned.

109) State that whatever he says is not worthy of consideration, because the Bible says atheists can't discern what's true anyway.

110) Offer inane apologetics books in the hopes that he hasn't heard the arguments in them a thousand times already.

111) Patiently explain that the 42 children that were torn to bits by two bears sent by God were not really children, but spawn of Satan.

112) When asked if they would sacrifice their own child for God, respond with "God would never ask me to do that."

113) Carefully explain that Lot's daughters were never in danger of gang rape, and that Lot knew this all along.

114) Most carefully of all, explain that while all of the Bible is inerrant, Revelation does not literally mean what it says.

115) Tell him that God answers all prayers -- sometimes the answer is no.

116) Tell him that Christians aren't perfect -- just forgiven.

117) Tell him that he can't love anyone -- that's why he can't love God.

118) Offer to drive, then insist on listening to Christian Talk Radio.

119) ...and laugh when you hear "This condom-nation will face condemnation."

120) Claim that Einstein was a Christian.

121) Claim that Darwin recanted evolution on his deathbed.

122) Tell him that he'll come around just like your daughter did . . . when she got confirmed just so that she could get married in a big church.

123) Vehemently claim that the theory of evolution is incompatible with theism, then turn around and blame the theory for promoting atheism.

124) Say that evolution is not proven -- therefore the Bible is correct.

125) Tell him it's his responsibility to prove that God doesn't exist.

126) Invite him to a church social function, and show up late.

127) ...because you were with his wife.

128) Deny that his child looks like him.

129) Ask what he believes in, if not God.

130) ...then tell him that nonbelief is also a worldview, therefore there is no such thing as an atheist and Christianity is true.

131) Explain that Buddha's last words were "Jesus, forgive me."

132) ...and tell him that you were "saved" when you heard that story.

133) ...and when he explains that Buddha died 500 years before Jesus was born, give him a blank look.

134) Say that God can't reveal himself with any real proof, because that would remove the need for faith.

135) When something awful happens, tell him not to blame God -- he doesn't interfere.

136) When something wonderful happens, tell him to credit God -- he made it happen.

137) Tell him not to ask what happens to those who have never heard of Jesus . . . HE has, and what is HE going to do about it?

138) Explain that it doesn't matter whether or not he thinks he's sinned -- all humans were imbued with original sin at the moment of their birth.

139) ...then tell him that babies automatically go to heaven.

140) ...and mentally retarded people.

141) ...and those with Down's Syndrome.

142) Treat nothing he says as credible, because he is possessed by Satan.

143) Show that the Bible must be true because when you take the original Hebrew letters, spread them out and twist them around, you can spell words.

144) ...and when he points out that that will work with literally any work in any alphabet, accuse him of closed-mindedness and blasphemy.

145) Spell it "athiest."

146) Spell it "evilution."

147) Tell him that the Bible is true because the Bible says it is.

148) Tell him that Hitler was an atheist.

149) ...and all atheists are therefore Nazis.

150) Tell him that he's playing right into Satan's hands, because Satan's greatest ploy is convincing people that God doesn't exist.

151) Use the word "atheist" as a verb.

152) After your argument has been effectively refuted, wait a few days and then repeapt the argument, adding, "You still haven't addressed this."

153) Make up your own language, and claim that his inability to understand is due to his atheism.

154) Claim that Jesus is the God based on the Old Testament, then turn around and say that the Old Testament has nothing to do with the New Covenant.

155) Use the word "presupposition" incorrectly, repeatedly.

156) Argue the most insignificant point you can think of; when he doesn't address your pettiness, claim victory.

157) Constantly attempt to equate atheism with theism.

158) Argue that the translation "errors" in the KJV were actually God-inspired improvements, and therefore the KJV is the most accurate of all trnslations.

159) Say that God believes in him, whether or not he believes in God.

160) Call the Branch Davidians a "cult," but insist that your particular faction is a "religion."

161) ...and argue that a practical distinction actually exists.

162) State with a straight face, "Yes, I believe that an invisible fairy god king magically blinked us all into existence in order to punish us for our salvation and that we must all humble ourselves and eat his flesh and drink his blood," and then claim your belief is perfectly rational and supperior to the atheist "mind-set," which can provide no answers.

163) Tell him that he can't use absolute logic because God is the only absolute.

164) Tell him the signs are there -- he's just not looking.

165) Tell him he wouldn't believe even if someone rises from the dead.

166) Play Matthew McConnaghey: "Do you love this person? Prove it."

167) Tell him that the third hour was Jewish time; the sixth hour was Roman time.

168) Try to perform an exorcism on him.

169) Claim to be speaking in tongues when actually you're just babbling incoherently.

170) Say that the Bible (as opposed to other holy books) is true because it's an eyewitness occount.

171) When he points out an apparent inconsistency of God's attributes, just say that God is infinite. The atheist, with his finite, human brain cannot begin to understand God.

172) For Muslims only: Say that it's perfectly reasonable for anyone to convert to your religion, but no one has a valid reason to leave Islam; it is the perfect religion.

173) Tell him that everyone has faith in SOMETHING.

174) Say that whatever you turn to in your hour of need is God.

175) Make him clean out your car.

176) Include cosmology and abiogenesis when discussing evolution.

177) Tell him he won't understand unless he believes, and he can't believe unless he understands.

178) Ask how he can have any morals if he doesn't believe in God.

179) Say that you know in your heart that belief in God is perfectly logical and rational.

180) Say that going to church is fun.

181) ...and when he says it's boring, act surprised.

182) Leave little Jesus cards on the tables at restaurants.

183) Talk about all the great things Dubya is going to do for our nation.

184) Insist that !@#$?sexuality is a choice.

185) Insist that Thomas Jefferson was a Christian.

186) Tell his that it's not a religion -- it's a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

187) Sing.

188) When asked what's wrong with evolution, tell them that it doesn't account for the origin of matter.

189) Tell him he only doesn't believe in God because his family hates him.

190) Advertise for heaven and hell.

191) Send a child over to witness to him.

192) ...when he tells the child he's not interested, send over two adults to say the same things.

193) ...when he refuses again, give a Chick tract to a 3 year old to give to him.

194) Send a chat room message that he is a black-hearted sinner.

195) ...then turn your IM off so that he can't respond.

196) Tell them that Darwin recanted evolution on his deathbed.

197) ...and when he tells you about the Lady Hope myth, cry.

198) Create a website challenging evolution.

199) ...and when he actually does, close it down.

200) Create a term for a blatant paradox in your religion, then call other religions false because they don't have it.

201) Get into a chatroom argument with him, then start SCREAMING the lyrics to "Amazing Grace" while your friends write "Amen, brother" and other such nonsense as the atheist tries to make his point.

202) After losing an argument horribly, say that you will pray for his eternal soul.

203) ...then begin praying loudly without his permission.

204) Yell and scream about how he is going to hell during a debate.

205) ...and when he gets tired of your yelling and screaming, back out of the debate.

206) When losing a debate, take advantage of his good nature by punching out somebody near you until he stops talking.

207) ...when you see someone else do this, stop him by saying that his religion is a peaceful one.

208) Put gigantic crosses on everything he owns that you can get your hands on.

209) Counter every argument that begins with "God is defined as..." with "So you believe in God?"

210) Cry foul when he tries to create a club that is not religious.

211) Fail to have a basic grasp of history. (Spanish Inquisition? What's that?)

212) Have your pastor hunt him down and force him into a debate over dinner.

213) When all else fails, never talk to him, and convince a lot of other people to never talk to him either.

214) Treat his Christian wife like shit.

215) Complain to him about your own church, but don't leave it.

216) Send the DEA an anonymous tip that he has bundles of cocaine in his garage.

217) Put a large cross in his yard.

218) ...then set it on fire with your hooded brethren.

219) PUT ALL ARGUMENTS IN CAPITAL LETTERS TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU'RE YELLING AND SCREAMING!

220) Start your own university dedicated to religious narrow-mindedness and restriction of free choice.

221) ...and name it "Liberty."

222) Perpetually ask saps for money on your television show.

223) Avoid taxes and regulations because you're doing God's work.

224) Ask why he only focuses on the bad parts of the Bible.

225) Accuse him of closed-mindedness for not accepting your extraordinary claims.

226) Tell him he has to believe before he can understand the evidence.

227) Tell him he is innumerate.

228) Tell him he is illiterate.

229) Tell him he is pissed.

230) Tell him he won't agree with you because the Holy Spirit has closed his eyes to the truth.

231) ...then continue preaching to him.

232) Insist that you've already refuted everything he said.

233) Ask God to bless his dark heart.

234) Threaten to sue his university for infringement of free speech after he heckles you.

235) Tell him that long hair is the Devil's work.

236) Tell him that all your music is the Devil's work.

236) Tell him that the fossils in the earth are the Devil's work.

237) Create hoaxes to prove cerationism (i.e. a human footprint alongside a dino's footprint).

238) Claim that God can cure HIV if one prays hard enough.

239) ...then say that it is God's choice who he will cure, and anyway having HIV is better than an eternity in Hell.

240) Turn up your amps so that everyone within three blocks has to listen to him rant about Jesus.

241) Double park on Sunday. Claim the principle of righteousness.

242) Ask who he turns to when he's in danger.

243) ...when he says himself, say "No -- when you're REALLY in danger."

244) Grossly misunderstand the word "theory."

245) Declare that everyone knows in his heart that God exists, but just want to worship themselves.

246) Declare that without God there are no ultimate answers to anything.

247) ...then declare that WITH God there is an ultimate answer to everything -- and that answer is God.

248) Declare that without God you finally die alone.

249) Declare that atheism gives you nothing to hope for except the false promises of this world.

250) Use transitive verbs intransitively (e.g. "Jesus raised from the dead").

251) ...when corrected on the above (e.g. Jesus ROSE or WAS RAISED from the dead), shout "Then you really do believe!"

252) Announce that God was watching over a loved one who survived a terrible tragedy.

253) ...and when the loved one later dies from his wounds, announce that it was God's will.

254) Get him to admit that he KNOWS God exists, but Satan has seduced him.

255) Invite every single person in your church to give Chick tracts to everyone they know.

256) Ask if he's ever heard of Jesus Christ.

257) Show up on his front porch at 9:00 on Saturday morning, and take advantage of his groginess by shoving copies of Watchtower into his hands and getting him to read the Bible with you, then walk away before he has any idea what's going on.

258) When he finally gets tired of you and launches several "Do Not Feed The Troll" campaigns against you, change your handle.

259) When confronted with a sound logical argument, respond with "Yes, but I don't believe that."

260) Have the Gideon Bible waiting in the hotel room that he pays for.

261) Regale him with questions such as "Who do you think wakes you up in the morning? Isn't that a miracle?" while you, the bus driver, should be watching the road.

262) Scrape your fingernails on a blackboard.

263) If you're an ISP, repeatedly cut him off during a net session, so that he must spend 90% of his time dialing.

264) Program your church bells to play very loudly at really odd hours.

265) Every time the subject of his being an atheist comes up, burst out laughing.

266) Ask how he can possibly raise children in a godless environment.

267) Accuse him of having more than one personality.

268) Talk to him with the assumption that he shares your beliefs -- i.e. start a sentence with "You know how God wants us to..."

269) When the subject of !@#$?sexuality comes up, say "God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve."

270) ...and expect it to be taken as an intelligent remark.

271) Insist that the Bible is completely true.

272) ...and when he conclusively proves otherwise, acknowledge that the Bible is trash, but remain a Christian.

273) ...then take him to church.

274) ...and tell him he really must come more often.

275) Reply to every statement he makes, "That's only your opinion."

276) Post something inflammatory about him, wait for him to respond, then go back and either delete or edit your post so that it appears that the ateist is attacking you for no reason.

277) Become completely and totally paranoid about him.

278) After bringing up a number of topics, explain your lack of response by referring to some organized sport that you participate in.

279) Point to something in nature that's really cool, and call it proof of God's existence.

280) When he shows up at your wedding, bearing an expensive gift for you, return the favor by sicing your minister on him after the ceremony.

281) If he has cancer, tell him with a sickeningly sweet smile that you will pray for his recovery, because someone needs to.

282) Refuse to give him your wallet after he quotes Matthew 5:42 to you.

283) Insist you believe in the literal truth of the entire Bible, except for Matthew 5:42.

284) Take advantage of a horrible national tragedy, caused in large part by religious fanaticism, by pushing your own religious fanaticism as the only thing that will save us all.

285) ...and announce that the tragedy only happened beacuse of those who ignore your religious fanatacism.

286) When ask why you bother praying to ask for things if God has a Divine Plan, tell him that you're not really asking for things, but you're trying to get closer to him. (It's a lie, of course, but don't let that stop you.)

287) Insist that a denomination of Protestantism founded in the ninteenth century is the only true way.

288) Insist on deathbed conversions.

281) When ending your conversation with the atheist, promise to read whatever book the atheist may have mentioned, knowing darned well that you yourself never made it through Leviticus.

http://onclepsycho.canalblog.com/archives/2004/06/05/35086.html



JB
01.25.09 - 2:05 pm

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Speaking of church,

I always liked this song.






bentstrider
01.25.09 - 2:06 pm

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JB stop teal deering us!



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 2:06 pm

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"I think if anything the sun is entitled to all the worship it gets. Without the sun none of this would be possible, less you forget.

Go Dun!!"

Hahaha. Talking to Alec much? :}

+1000 for duderina and coldcut.



Tarmonster.
01.25.09 - 2:08 pm

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lets all dance to this song yes?





funanu
01.25.09 - 2:10 pm

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that song is SO fucking catchy!



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 2:10 pm

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Don't you mean this church, bentstrider?



(fuggin LOVE this song)



ephemerae
01.25.09 - 2:11 pm

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"But, you have yet to convince God (see, it's not ME that judges, condemns or has to be convinced) that !@#$?sexuality should be allowed (but Him)."


---WTF? because men wrote that he does not approve? how the fuck do you really know if he is or isn't accepting???





Eddie GOpez
01.25.09 - 2:14 pm

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how about a little PRAYER FOR CLEANSING!!!
and no this band is in no way fucking christian!




monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 2:15 pm

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@funanu

How do I believe that you didn't write that one yourself?????

I am so bumping that on the next edition of CRANK Mob!!!



bentstrider
01.25.09 - 2:17 pm

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Rational Response may be of some use here:




ephemerae
01.25.09 - 2:18 pm

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what IF god was one of us? would he be riding fixed? gears? bmx?



funanu
01.25.09 - 2:20 pm

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oh my god, i love "reptile" by the church!!!!

awesome.



coldcut
01.25.09 - 2:23 pm

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always question man. always question mankind. always question one's intent. question religion!!! question archaic scripture!!!

be logical and spiritual. be more human. worship Gaya. connect with Gaya. She cradles you and all life in this system.



Eddie GOpez
01.25.09 - 2:24 pm

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JB
01.25.09 - 2:25 pm

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LOL JB that vid is great



ephemerae
01.25.09 - 2:29 pm

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meh.



tern
01.25.09 - 2:30 pm

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pumas dont believe in god.



funanu
01.25.09 - 2:31 pm

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tern, care to expand on your post?



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 2:32 pm

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THE BIKESIDE OF THE FORCE IS A PATHWAY TO MANY ABILITIES SOME CONSIDER TO BE... UNNATURAL.

ALTHOUGH IT IS DARK IN IT'S NATURE IT IS ALSO ACCEPTING OF ALL DARK LORDS AND APPRENTICES.



DARTH VELOZ
01.25.09 - 2:33 pm

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meeeeeeeh.



tern
01.25.09 - 2:33 pm

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And Tern wins the thread.



JB
01.25.09 - 2:37 pm

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NO the BIKESIDE wins. THE BIKESIDE OF THE FORCE ALWAYS WINS. THERE WILL BE PEACE AND LOVE AND... ORDER IN THE GALAXY



DARTH VELOZ
01.25.09 - 2:51 pm

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GET ON YA BIKES AND RIDE



la duderina
01.25.09 - 2:53 pm

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Purple Spider Guy wrote:

Some of the people in these threads are about as willing to engage in a public discourse as the average Bush administration official.

Gotta agree with the bigot on that one. You don't have to be a right-winger or a !@#$?phobe to be a self-satisfied ignoramus.





PC
01.25.09 - 3:07 pm

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I think it's funny that anyone at all thought the point of this thread was "public discourse" rather than a good old fashioned dressing down.



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 3:14 pm

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Everyone has a threshold of intolerance.

A lot of us have intolerance of intolerance.







Roadblock
01.25.09 - 5:53 pm

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A thorough reading and understanding of the Bible is the surest path to atheism.



Orson Wells
01.25.09 - 6:22 pm

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LOL!! true dat ^^^. that was the path that got me there.



la duderina
01.25.09 - 6:39 pm

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he is ignorant...but someone taught him that.

now everyone knows he is a bigot. end of thread.



Frozen Fingersss
01.25.09 - 6:55 pm

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you know, if we ostracize this individual he will have less opportunity to ever see anything outside his bible thumping worldview

the real question is did he give ijunes his bike back or what, i want to hear the end of that story



stevestevesteve
01.25.09 - 7:05 pm

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you know...the thing where people tell you about 'reverse racism'...and how much of a short-minded idea that is?



tern
01.25.09 - 7:06 pm

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'reverse racism' is dumbass idea...for many reasons. This is the sort of idea I seem to be seeing on this thread.



tern
01.25.09 - 7:08 pm

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...but you might not get it, though. So, okay. whatevers.



tern
01.25.09 - 7:09 pm

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God? yeah i've read his works. meh

now ayn rand, shes a writer.



_iJunes
01.25.09 - 7:13 pm

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'tern shrugged'



tern
01.25.09 - 7:14 pm

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what do you mean by reverse racism tern?



Frozen Fingersss
01.25.09 - 7:15 pm

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oh my gosh. nevermind.



tern
01.25.09 - 7:16 pm

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now ayn rand, shes a writer.

BOOOOOOOO



la duderina
01.25.09 - 7:19 pm

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okay.

there is no 'reverse racism'. Although, some people use the term.
There is only racism.

Just like there is only intolerance....nevermind....I'm going to bed..

I'm out on the east coast and need to get up early...bye everyone.

Talk about bikes, or bike riding or something.



tern
01.25.09 - 7:21 pm

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Amen, brother Tern, amen.




Creative Thing
01.25.09 - 8:39 pm

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Dude, you be trippin'. Everyone knows Jesus is gay and there is no God. I know because Jesus himself just came by to tell me and we just had a pleasant circle jerk to bond with each other.



Hagbard Celine
01.25.09 - 8:49 pm

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Jeebuz is watching...he knows when you are sleeping, he knows when your awake, he knows when you've been bad or good so be good for jeebuz sake, ohh...




dannyzuko
01.25.09 - 8:51 pm

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Oh, damn, GOD JUST KEYED MY CAR RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME!!!





Hagbard Celine
01.25.09 - 8:51 pm

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Ezekiel 25
From LOLCat Bible Translation Project


17 Den Sam Jackson said: Teh walkies of the Ceiling Cat beliefer iz fightins an stuff by lotza unfair gredy aholes an George Boosh. Mani cheeborgrz 2 teh beliefer cat cuz of bein nice n stuff 2 helpin kitties thru teh scary plaice. He gud beliefer cat and finden losted kitties an such. Ceiling cat gonna pwn demz who fuk wit my budz. U kno mai name iz Ceiling Cat whe I'z scartchin yo ize out n such. (dere be sum despurting bout dis line, but dis as gud as any Ceiling Cat seeds, so et stayin)



dannyzuko
01.25.09 - 8:57 pm

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YO HATERS:





ephemerae
01.25.09 - 9:02 pm

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Only one hater in this thread that I can see: some freakily superstitious AOhell user.



toweliesbong
01.25.09 - 9:22 pm

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thass wad ahm tawkin aboot



ephemerae
01.25.09 - 9:32 pm

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haha you can't call intolerance on intolerance!

Seriously, I don't care what you guys do. I said in the very first post in this thread that I am only speaking for myself. I PERSONALLY feel that that individual is unwelcome. If any of you want to speak up and join me with that (and I think a few of you have), awesome! Any of you that want to associate with someone who believes some of our fellow riders are abominations, well feel free. But just be aware what kind of message your actions send.



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 10:27 pm

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So when is this ride? Can I bring my boyfirend?





stillline
01.25.09 - 10:46 pm

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what does this guy look like? post a picture.



ruinedbyidiots
01.25.09 - 11:11 pm

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his myspace is easy enough to find.



monovsstereo
01.25.09 - 11:13 pm

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2009 is the year of no myspace, so post it here for me.



ruinedbyidiots
01.25.09 - 11:21 pm

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theroyalacademy
01.25.09 - 11:25 pm

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did you get my text tyler?



monovsstereo
01.26.09 - 12:24 am

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i got a boner during rush hour 2 does that mean i'm going to hell



patrickviolence
01.26.09 - 1:25 am

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CTHULHU DOES NOT APPROVE
OR CARE



ephemerae
01.26.09 - 8:47 am

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so this guys got a goatee, but hes a devout christian, or whatever. i dont get it. isnt satan the one who typically has retardo facial hair like that?

did anyone mention that this guys legs felt like jello after 14 miles of "hard riding" on crank mob?



ruinedbyidiots
01.26.09 - 11:11 am

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lol did i mention he has my bike so fittingly named "hellbender"



_iJunes
01.26.09 - 11:13 am

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hard riding at crank mob? HA! thats the first and only time i'll ever hear that!



funanu
01.26.09 - 11:14 am

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sorry jesus, midnight ridazz has a strict bicycle enforcement policy. no bike, no entry. no excuses



_iJunes
01.26.09 - 11:22 am

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Dude i know ur the dude that bought junos bike. Watch what you say around me i ant playing no disscusion games with you if you say some bullshit..



Debut213
01.26.09 - 11:41 am

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hate ain't sexy man.



et
01.26.09 - 11:54 am

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yo junu did he buy that bike with the really ugly stem?



monovsstereo
01.26.09 - 1:22 pm

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haha yeah. i kinda liked it.



_iJunes
01.26.09 - 1:26 pm

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junu, i kinda like your (look) bike... tiz a sexy machine



Candy Cane
01.26.09 - 1:29 pm

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junu, whered you get that bike?

anybody have any leads on someone selling a geard bike?

51-53cm preferrably shimano 105 or equivalent.

help a mafucka out!



KiMS1
01.26.09 - 1:34 pm

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There's no group of people I despise more than moderate christians.. I was quite specific about how I feel regarding certain issues and how I expect my followers to respond. Curtis, did you even read that big ass book I wrote?

Thou shall spread my word with the sword or thou shall forever burn in HELL!!!!!







jesus
01.26.09 - 2:06 pm

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I have a great love and respect for religion, great love and respect for atheism. What I hate is agnosticism, people who do not choose.



Orson Wells
01.26.09 - 2:20 pm

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what is jesus's policy on trafficking in stolen property anyway



stevestevesteve
01.26.09 - 2:25 pm

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I WUZ GONNA GO 2 CHURCH











BUT THEN I GOT HIGH

















oooooOOOOOOOoo


_iJunes
01.26.09 - 2:34 pm

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i was gonna even repent my sins, but then i got hiiiiighhhhh




laaaa da da dadada



_iJunes
01.26.09 - 2:35 pm

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now i think i'm buddhist, and i know why.




why man?



cause i got high, because i got high, because i got hiiiiiiiiighhhh

LA DA DA DA DADADA



_iJunes
01.26.09 - 2:36 pm

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finders keepers, losers weepers



jesus
01.26.09 - 2:36 pm

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This purplebutt guy is missguided

Jesus's message was to love everybody.
judge not less you be judged.
We are all the children of God.



Dedicated818
01.26.09 - 8:37 pm

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children of god????

I follow science, not superstition!





User1
01.26.09 - 9:15 pm

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Science can not explain the pressence of a soul,
The message is were all the same.
To love each other
Even if some of us are more fucked up than others.



Dedicated818
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ruinedbyidiots
01.26.09 - 9:47 pm

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A soul? Isn't that like spirits and ghosts and stuff?



User1
01.27.09 - 12:10 am

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I've always wondered what it feels like to be possessed??



bentstrider
01.27.09 - 1:17 am

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Wait, so that's ...

What happened?

Some guy wrote a couple blog posts that state he believes gay people are morally wrong? Who cares? I mean, presumably, he'll eventually find a gay person who will set him straight (as it were) about that whole "gay people don't choose to be gay, they are just gay" thing, and if they didn't choose to be gay then how is it a moral issue, and if it's not a moral issue, then they can't burn in hell, because hell is for people who see both sides of a moral issue and choose sin.

Right?

So everybody (and I mean EVERYBODY, both sides) chill it with the hate talk. Bike God will judge all of us as Bike God sees fit, and we won't know how that is until we get there. It's not OUR position to judge, it's BIKE GOD's position to judge.

If there is a Bike God. Which is a whole nother issue entirely.

Love,
Katie



katiepoche
01.27.09 - 1:28 am

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What do you mean who cares? I care, and a lot of other people here do. There is a difference between believing that !@#$?sexuality is or can be morally wrong, and actively describing it as abomination and scapegoating it for natural disasters. This guy is clearly uninterested in opening his mind, and I am uninterested in being around him at any time. Fuck him 100%



monovsstereo
01.27.09 - 1:41 am

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A difficult case. In person, perhaps some progress could be made, but here in the ether, the id will prevail and make a proper resolution of the underlying conflicts impossible.



Sigmund Freud
01.27.09 - 2:13 am

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