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Cops chase ridazz out of Pan-Pacific.
Thread started by bentstrider at 09.27.08 - 12:05 am

So, while buzzing the skies in my AWACS/MC-135(aka Freightliner), I got bored and decided to get a 20 on fuzzbeast and whomever else was roving the surface-streets.

He tells me that the Peoples Ride was just kicked out of Pan Pacific around 23:30 Hrs(11:30PM).

Seems strange to me in the sense that this has never actually happened in that fashion before.

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yeah, i left the ride right as this was happening. the cops were driving into the park. when everyone yelled FIVE OH people started throwing their beer bottles into the bushes and whatnot and there was a lot of broken glass. and people peeing on the fucking playground instead of in the bushes. but whatever, im just a hater.



ruinedbyidiots
09.27.08 - 12:44 am

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Seems like the typical reaction of MR-Forces towards indigenous personnel.
If we had a couple of SG-units on the ground, then this type of bug-out wouldn't have been necessary.

Oh well, that's what you get when the SG-unit has been recalled to base for night-observation duties.



bentstrider
09.27.08 - 1:01 am

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It seems unlikely that the cops would have come into Pan Pacific if it weren't for the incident in the Grove. The combination of the ghetto bird (which I assume was in response to the rent-a-cops calling the real cops) and the fireworks was probably the main give-away.

Right around the time that they started spotlighting the Grove, theroyalacademy and I went back to go check on stillline (who'd gotten pulled over for running a red on Melrose/Fairfax), and at that point, the streets were just swarming with cops. One was driving right by the park as the fireworks went off. The ghetto bird had probably seen everyone in the park already, but y'know... ooops.

So what happened in the aftermath of all the Grove/Pan-Pacific crackdown? Did anyone get arrested or detained?



nathansnider
09.27.08 - 1:28 am

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I counted 13 patrol cars at one point. Also a police helicopter flew over.

It was just surreal to watch the police cars roll in one after the other. That must've been some high-priority call that got sent out.



wiz_vanmeter
09.27.08 - 1:33 am

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No one stopped when Stillline got pulled over. No one. (Including, yes, myself.) That fucking sucks. Somebody should at least keep an eye out from a short distance to make sure that interaction doesn't go south.

No rida left behind..........



theroyalacademy
09.27.08 - 1:44 am

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What the fuck.



imachynna
09.27.08 - 1:50 am

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I waited at the Grove with a few other riders for the two detained riders. One guy was named James, and he was tackled from his bike.
When the 28 or 30 cops showed up, and the Sargent in charge found out it was bicycles, not armed robbers (such as the guys who have been robbing people getting off of work on Melrose for over a month and have yet to be caught), they kind of did a conference and let both riders go.

Yes they called a chopper in too. We heard the fireworks go off. That didn't help the situation.

By the time we got down to Pan Pacific, it had been abandoned, with only a couple of beer cans left on the benches.








skd
09.27.08 - 1:54 am

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woah.. sorry to hear this.. Stilline.. let us know you're ok..



redridinghood
09.27.08 - 1:59 am

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Matt's okay. Nathan and I went back to make sure. As we got there, they were just letting him go (after giving him a ticket).



theroyalacademy
09.27.08 - 2:00 am

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its all about asserting cyclists rights to the road by drinking in parking lots.

right when we got to the grove a bunch of riders decided to go ride down the sidewalk instead of staying on the street and two or three guys got detained. the cops were basically like "shut the fuck up and leave and we will let them go" but people kept yelling stupid shit to the police and not leaving. one guy that was detained was pleading with people to leave so he wouldnt get ticketed/arrested. i hope that guy got off with just a warning or whatever.

the best part of the ride was the old guy in the white truck backing into the civic in the ralphs parking lot because he was too distracted by cyclists to see a car behind him.



ruinedbyidiots
09.27.08 - 2:06 am

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bicycles vs. armed robbers
We deserve the same treatment, absolutely.



imachynna
09.27.08 - 2:07 am

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Matt's OK, I talked to him on the phone.

I didn't see him getting a ticket, but I would have stopped if I did.
I did see the guy get tackled from his bike at the Grove.

Car traffic was bad tonight, both during LACM and The People's Ride, with over 200 bicycles taking up the streets, the drivers were irate.
The cops were called by the time we hit the first LACM stop at Jon's Market on Santa Monica Blvd and Western Ave.

By the time the People's Ride rode down Hollywood Blvd., it was pandemonium.

We are overwhelming the streets with bicycles. They are not used to it. We are traffic.





skd
09.27.08 - 2:13 am

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Sorry, technically I can't say "we".

@theroyalacademy
Sorry, the "What the fuck" wasn't towards you, it was towards the thread. Just wanted to clarify. :)



imachynna
09.27.08 - 2:13 am

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Traffic in every damned place!!

I guess after the four-wheelers got done bothering y'all, they try to upstage the trucks on the 5!!!

Fuckin' attention whores, with their loud-mufflers and studded tires!!!



bentstrider
09.27.08 - 2:16 am

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There were happy moments.



skd
09.27.08 - 2:17 am

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@skd

I'm sure there were.

But, what we really need is that gigantic-ass, balloon that richie was toting not, too long ago.

Bounce that bitch down the street, and you'll have everyone and their grandma trying to catch that thing.



bentstrider
09.27.08 - 2:21 am

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I love Steph's smile.



imachynna
09.27.08 - 2:22 am

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Hey what other happy moments were there?



imachynna
09.27.08 - 2:26 am

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Leaving LACM to get tacos was good. And then leaving the Peepul's Ride to go get donuts was pretty awesome too.

The high point of the actual riding was the homeless dude on a skateboard skitching on Stillline's tall bike....... right before he made the left on red.



theroyalacademy
09.27.08 - 2:29 am

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Yeah, I'm not feeling full of positivity right now.



theroyalacademy
09.27.08 - 2:34 am

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some hollywood blvd sluts were like "ooh bikes!" during the circle of death and i yelled back "oooh skanks!" and they were not amused.



ruinedbyidiots
09.27.08 - 2:36 am

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Yeah, I wouldn't be either. I'm sorry guys.




imachynna
09.27.08 - 2:38 am

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I missed the circle of death.



skd
09.27.08 - 2:38 am

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I would've been amused.



imachynna
09.27.08 - 2:38 am

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I missed it too.



imachynna
09.27.08 - 2:39 am

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Drooby took us to Griffith Park during LACM. That was kind of cool.,




skd
09.27.08 - 2:41 am

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Man, this really got everyone down.



imachynna
09.27.08 - 2:43 am

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Hopefully when the westsidazz are done riding they can give us a positive update. :)



imachynna
09.27.08 - 2:45 am

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Unless they were hit by the cops too.




skd
09.27.08 - 2:48 am

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*happythoughtshappythoughts*



imachynna
09.27.08 - 2:58 am

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Just got back from the FunSide Ride, it was pretty cool and chill for time I had with'em. Cesar, Uncle Richard, and I went down there after the incident at the Grove. Cops were chilling and not giving any problems tonight on the WestSide.



X-Large
09.27.08 - 3:19 am

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Another good VCM night, how was your fancy successful east side ride again? pffffffffffffffpf



franz
09.27.08 - 4:43 am

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Its obvious the cops are getting tired of us. Not sure what the solution is but I think we cant just keep riding like its 2006.



stillline
09.27.08 - 9:14 am

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I'm a puma.



tern
09.27.08 - 9:30 am

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Don't get scared by theroyalacademy's tall horse, he didn't stop and wait for either of the riders that were detained at the grove.

WTF is with all this humbuggery!? Last night was pretty typical in my opinion. We went unmolested until we pushed too many legal buttons. We've been told by cops and security not to ride through the grove, but we still do it. You wanna poke the pigs with sticks, you better be prepared to practice evasion. You wanna make left turns on a red.....Mathew (love ya)?? You're subjecting yourself to the whims of the donut party.

We didn't get bothered the whole time we were up on Hollywood blvd (kinda rare) and the cops put on a show at the grove, but ultimately let both people go. All the pee pee antics and litter bug jitter bug, that's an internal matter amongst ridazz, so say something when you see it, not the morning after on the anonymizer.

I, for one, had a good time, even after the ride split into two groups. We regrouped at the bike district and continued on our merry way.



Eric Hair
09.27.08 - 10:03 am

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Not sure what the solution is


Based on that recent thread about Mexico City, I say we all move down there and form a giant cyclist community. We take over a whole region. Buying up all the property, and we make our utopia happen.



Eric Hair
09.27.08 - 10:05 am

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Seems to me, eh..pertaining to all previous rides, a pattern has presented its self, leaving us all feeling askew.
It seems, our disposition with the l.a.p.d. is all but in the clear.
This is a mark we will brandish for quite some time...And only through habitual restraint and un-marked awareness will we then
recieve our portion of unnotice.



Anyways. FUCK IT!!!!!!



NOISEPOCKET
09.27.08 - 10:41 am

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Did any of the cops look like this?





sexy
09.27.08 - 10:50 am

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why did you do that?!!!


I just shit ma'sel
great!



NOISEPOCKET
09.27.08 - 10:53 am

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I'm going to the police station either today or tomorrow and formally filing a complaint against the cop that bodyslammed JAMES (anyone have his email or phone number?)

There were 2 surveillance cameras at the location and one had to have been facing on Banana Republic when it happened.

I witnessed it and something has to be done.




barleye
09.27.08 - 11:25 am

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body slammed??? how did that happen?



Graham
09.27.08 - 11:44 am

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I had a great time riding. Sucks to hear what happened with the coppaz.



Graham
09.27.08 - 11:45 am

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V . C . M .





ha ha ha





ride or dye!





waht we talkeng bout?

















Knittens
09.27.08 - 11:48 am

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@eric

At the Grove, there were a lot of people stopped together with the two detained people. When Matt got pulled over (for making a stupid turn, yes, but he wasn't the only one to do it), people started yelling, "Keep going! Keep going!" and we all, apparently, left him alone there.

I don't claim to always do the right thing. My pavlovian response when I see cops is to get the hell out of there. I think that is most people's reaction. I am just saying that we need to remember that other people could be in trouble and that we should watch out for them, even if that trouble is of their own making. This is something we already know, but we don't always do.



theroyalacademy
09.27.08 - 11:49 am

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I don't think James wants to pursue the issue with LAPD at this point. I didn't get his phone number, and he helped me with my flat. Thanks James.

I was talking to him as we rode towards the bike kitchen to meet up with the rest of the group. He was released after the watch supervisor came and saw how ridiculous it was to hold a bicyclist with 30 cops milling around. Not a good picture politically for a city that has been gripped by armed robberies recently. James is going to have a great story to tell his kids one day. Thirty cops called in to take him down. Yeah he was once a badass. Though the indention marks from the handcuffs will be long gone.













skd
09.27.08 - 12:29 pm

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I may be the only one that saw what happened to him......He should really pursue it. How much abuse can we take? The cop jumped out from behind the light post and slammed him into the store like it was a football game.

Same goes for the rookie bald white cop that stopped us twice skidding in front of the pack both times on the veganbananapenis ride. They continue to do it because we don't report any of it.



barleye
09.27.08 - 12:47 pm

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eddieboy was PISSED when we were leaving the grove because apparently some cop tried to tackle him but he just kept riding.



ruinedbyidiots
09.27.08 - 12:56 pm

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WHAT ABOUT THE DUDE CHRISS, IS HE OK, ANYBODY CARE?

I WAS PUSHED HARD, BY LAPD, HE TRIED TO KNOCK ME DOWN, FUCKIN BITCH ASS PUSSY BLACK COP !! HE WAS WEAK BY THE WAY, LOL, HE WAS SCARRED BY MY RESPONSE, LOL. REALLY GUYS. AFTER ALL, HE IS JUST A MAN, NOT NO FUCKING SUPER-HERO.





eddieboyinla
09.27.08 - 1:24 pm

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@ barleye

Hey man, I saw that cop body slam that dude, too. It was ridiculous and uncalled for. If he hadn't been wearing a helmet, his head would have been cracked open, literally I watched his head bounce off of the metal corner of the building. I'm down to go with you to the cop shop as another witness if you'd like



onelessfixie
09.27.08 - 1:26 pm

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Kind of reminds me of the incident that happen in New York's CM. He should complain.



libra777
09.27.08 - 2:02 pm

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Ha! Eddieboy can't be caught, he can't be stopped. He is the superhero.




skd
09.27.08 - 4:04 pm

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Yeah, Last night a couple of us were talking, it's probably good that we lay off using Pan Pacific Park as a stop for a while. We've been chased out of there the last 2 or 3 times we were in there (of course that was in like a week), we've been hitting it several times a week for a while now. It's starting to become obvious that we like to hang there, and an easy target. Last night was absurd, true, however, it's becoming clear that "they" know we have been using the park a bunch at night. Let's lay off it as a stop for a while.
Besides, I think, in general, we need to do a couple things with rides, I think, one, we need to find new spots, in general, to hang out, Griffith Park on LACM last night was awesome, a new spot, chill and enjoyable.
The city of Los Angeles is 432 sq miles by itself, not to mention the other cities it surrounds, borders, lies adjacent to, etc., I think we can come up with more places to hang out than the like 5 or 10 we habitually go to. I know we can come up with better ones, newer ones, more interesting ones.
I also think we need to think of something better to do at stops that just stand around getting wasted. Sure it's fun to get drunk, high, whatever, however, the fact that we tend to be doing that so much definitely will not contribute to our public image. I don't know what that could be that we could do, but I bet it could be F.U.N.. We need to make stops about being other than getting smashed.
Being that the first thing people wanted to do on critical mass last night, less than 5 minutes after we left Wilshire/Western was stop and get more booze, I think we need to make some evaluation of our practices.
I'm not saying we need temperance movement among ridazz, prohibition is the opposite of what I'm saying, what I am saying is, let's try to be a little more responsible. This includes PLANNING (yes, a ride takes more than just posting it on the calendar), and one of the things that I think we need to do is plan a little more for rides. Lets get back to having themes people can get into, things that will make people want to dress up or get into the theme for, honestly, it makes people care more about the ride they are on, it's not just another x night booze cruise. And this planning includes routes too. Let's look for new streets we don't ride much, and try to bring some newness and wonder back. If we're going new places, people are less apt to be blackout drunk and pissing on each other.

I dunno, I guess I'm ranting a bit, but I feel like some of that needed to be said.




FuzzBeast
09.27.08 - 4:52 pm

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Oh yeah, and skd, Send me an email (my addy is in my profile), I wanna talk to you about something.



FuzzBeast
09.27.08 - 4:57 pm

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@FuzzBeast
Can you repost that here?
You did a better job at saying what I wanted to say.



imachynna
09.27.08 - 5:13 pm

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_Mass



barleye
09.27.08 - 5:35 pm

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@ Fuzz beast could not of said it better another area to think about is Culver City when a cop video tapes us in a parking lot.It's to take it home and show the wife it's to build a case against us then there will be another city were not wecome in.



crossbones
09.27.08 - 8:04 pm

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+100 Fuzzbeast



Freeekeone
09.27.08 - 8:36 pm

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yeah this night wasnt the best 4me!
i got chase by the cops!!
but i got away THANK 2 CARS lol i would hide nex 2the car on the road, while still pedalling.
i felt like a criminal!! is not the best feeling!
them almost got my bike stole! down melrose but i 4got the crossing st.
i just remember pedaling like crazy!
I NEEDED A DRINK!!!




screwIN213
09.27.08 - 8:49 pm

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