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bad bike accident last thu
Thread started by Jona_323 at 09.6.09 - 1:52 am

me and my friends went to a bike ride /kickback and we where drinking i had like 3 to 4 beers in me and on my way home i was booking it to get home so i was in front of everyone and i was with my head down when i was speeding up and what happend i went too much to my right and hit a parked van and i flue in too the back window and pop right back out i was all freked out and yelld cuz i was bleeding from every where and 2 part about this story thay took my to the rong hosiptol and they had me bleeding for 12 house till my sis took me out and took me to the city hospitol and that took like 4 house just to fix me up hahah crazzy night i had and still in pain i can say i have lie up too 40 stiches

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still drunk huh?



godmode
09.6.09 - 2:29 am

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Perhaps you should not drink and ride your bike? You broke some guys van window with your drunken face, are you going to pay to replace it? This is the very reason I don't go on group rides anymore...a shame really.



rev106
responding to a comment by godmode
09.6.09 - 6:27 am

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This is why California Vehicle Code 21200.5 exists.



JB
09.6.09 - 11:06 am

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hey man... i'm glad you are okay. i was wondering what happened to you after they took you away.

fuck you guys for not showing any compassion... like you have never ridden a bike after drinking. i couldn't even tell he was drunk, i witnessed the whole thing.



snowcone
09.6.09 - 11:14 am

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Shadster...... SSssshhhhhh
yOu are Beginning 2 wears on Me.



-Dexter-
09.6.09 - 11:19 am

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Only 40 stiches!! Ha try 100 stiches. Look @ my profile picture it might make you feel better about ur current wounds..


On the serious note becareful out there people! We as humans break easy. Its. Important you take care of your wounds properly and give your self adequate time to heal. Drink the antiboitics and clean your wound regualarly. You'll be surprised @ how fast you heal if you stay hydrated and properly nourished. This community will still be here when your ready to ride again


P.s scars are tattoos for the brave....



Debut213
09.6.09 - 11:36 am

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Natural Selection



Dedicated818
09.6.09 - 12:10 pm

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compassion??

Would you (Snowcone) or other riders (esp on this site) show compassion to drivers who do the same?

"like you have never driven a car after drinking"

I agree with a previous poster-- who is paying for the car you damaged?

If only drunk drivers had a site where they showed off their accidents, posted photos and such, describing the events, admitting to drinking... (hope no one turns this thread in to the police, someone might be wondering how their car got fucked up -if it did)

Very ironic that some cyclist feel EVEN THIS ENTITLED... Damn... talk about wanting your cake and eating it too (dont get me wrong Im all for letting cyclist rule the world).

Accidents happen... but posting a drunken wreck is not a moment of compassion... its time to say -- hey, you fucked up--and others should take heed.



md2
responding to a comment by snowcone
09.6.09 - 2:36 pm

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It's not that I haven't ridden a bike after drinking, it's that I've never ridden a bike after drinking and ran in to a parked car. Did you at least have a helmet and brakes on your bike? DUI=BUI.



Velocipede
responding to a comment by snowcone
09.6.09 - 3:15 pm

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like i said. he didn't look drunk. for all i know he could have been within the legal allowance. he was riding in a perfectly straight line with his head down going about 25 mph. there were no cars parked on the side of the road for at least a 1/4 mile.

we were hanging out for something like 3 hours... 3 or 4 beers in 3 hours...



snowcone
09.6.09 - 3:37 pm

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also... i believe that people need to drink responsibly and i've walked my bike home twice because i didn't think it was safe for me to ride.

however, whether or not the law reflects this... a 4000 pound object moving at 55 mph is a lot more dangerous than a 200 pound object moving at 25 mph.

whether or not the accident was a result of his drinking... i think he will be a lot more careful with his drinking in the future. if the gashes don't teach him a lesson, you're shit talking won't either.



snowcone
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09.6.09 - 4:04 pm

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shit talking...

It so typical of you to call everyone else shit talkers, and the like... besides I was mainly referring to YOUR comment.

didnt you just tell everyone "fuck you"?

"however, whether or not the law reflects this... a 4000 pound object moving at 55 mph is a lot more dangerous than a 200 pound object moving at 25 mph. "

--whats your point? Does a 200 pound object moving at 25 mph, deserve compassion, while a 4000 pound object does not?

If you you making the correct comparision, then you would note that his bike did not weigh 200lbs (even if he did).

So a driver can be 200lbs, and so can a rider.

If youre comparing the 4000lbs to a 30lb bike, then thats the diference... but like others will rightly point out:

Whether your operating a plane, train or automobile... or bike-- it is on you whether to operate whatever pound of machinery you put you ass in/on. If you do so after 3 or 4 or 12 beers... well sorry... I think the "will", "intention", "desire" or whatever, to operate that piece of machinery is pretty much on par across the board.

Again-- whats your point? That the law should be more accepting of BUIs because the machinery weighs less????

ok... so there should be different laws for those driving drunk in a Hummer versus a Toyota Camry?




md2
responding to a comment by snowcone
09.6.09 - 4:22 pm

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were you wearing a helmet?



Adrian_The_BEAST
09.6.09 - 5:02 pm

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"he didn't look drunk" Well all I know is that every alien movie, the aliens take over a humans body, they always look like humans. Soooo I guess, "he didn't look like an alien" never seems to work out for the better, exept for the main movies characters.

Also, no helmet= NO COMPATION FROM ME!!!!

I had a freind who wrecked his Harley in Indaianpolis(no helmet laws) pulling out of his driveway. I went to the hospital to see him. I walked in, he said "I am an idiot, I know, give me all the shit you want." SO I DID!!!! MAN UP Snowcone. Sticking up for drunken idiots will put you in jail also.

I also had a hard time reading a post with every other word is spelled incorrectly. Maybe he need a CAT scan to make sure he is really ok. School might need to foloow if he is ok.

+rev106 Group rides these days are consisting more and more of 16 year olds that ask me why I have a deraileur or is that a fixie????



parlorbikes
responding to a comment by snowcone
09.6.09 - 5:47 pm

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Soury 4 annie spellin erorz n mi pozt, iez tiipe to phast.

Heal up, buy some guy a new window, and buy a helmet. Oh yeah, drink when you get home from the ride.



parlorbikes
09.6.09 - 5:51 pm

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Damn bro. glad to hear your ok but your gonna have massive scars over that eye.



sal725
09.6.09 - 10:38 pm

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as usual.. your response, md2, is so ignorant of common sense that i cannot respond to it. (200 lbs... weight of bike and rider... when you calculate the force of the bicycle when it hits another object, you need to know the combined mass, not just the mass of the bicycle)

parlorbikes... the field sobriety test that police conduct is based on how a person looks... want to bring up your alien movies again?



snowcone
09.6.09 - 11:31 pm

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im impressed he got drunk of 4 beers



rey
09.7.09 - 1:43 am

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Hm a field sobriety test? I though it was how you acted, answered questions, smelled, and could handle basic balance, equilibrium and motion control tasks. Wow! I didn't know they just look at you.

Thank you for the education. Could you please also give me the actual force of impact of a 200lb rider at 25mph into a parked van.

I believe that answer is ignorance, or in scientific terms:
bike + rider = 200lbs
speed =25mph(a very fast drunken hustle)
distance stopped = 0ft


Impact force of=4181.496598639455lbs

Ah yes the alien movies. What is your favorite? since I need to bring that up.

Anyone find out about the helmet? What is age of said rider? Is rider paying for van window? Assuming the above calculations, I would also assume there is body damage to the surrounding area's of said van.



parlorbikes
responding to a comment by snowcone
09.7.09 - 4:22 am

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Update:

Rider in question is 20 years old. Good thing he's legal to smoke cigarettes and buy porn.

Did the person responsible for buying the beer also plan on buying you a new right eye socket? I hear those are pretty expensive. Maybe they sell those at the hosiptol or is it hospitol?



parlorbikes
09.7.09 - 4:29 am

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You know it man, some kid asked me if my 77 Gary Littlejohn 26" bmx was a fixie, I nearly threw up in my mouth.

Group rides that are fun:

Choppercabras Halloween ride (soon!)
And the Coaster Brake challenge

Yeah I know they're my rides but still, there's more riding and less boozing. I figure these druk rides will persist and the ones like myself that have no interest will do other things.

A further note: I'd be totaly pissed if you ran your drunk head into the Atomic Cycles team van! Respect the van!.






rev106
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09.7.09 - 7:44 am

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You couldn't tell that the guy who rode into a parked car was drunk?

Maybe that ought to be a lesson to you about not drinking and riding - because you are impaired well before you are obviously drunk. Better that you should learn that lesson while riding a bike instead of driving a car, I suppose, but here's hoping you actually learned the lesson.

And for what it is worth, if you don't know how many beers you've had ("3 or 4" means you don't know, and it could as easily be 5 or 6), then you've had too much.



ideasculptor
responding to a comment by snowcone
09.7.09 - 7:46 am

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when you go head first into the rear window of a van... your memory might be a little fuzzy



snowcone
responding to a comment by ideasculptor
09.7.09 - 8:33 am

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it's actually about 228 pounds of force.



snowcone
responding to a comment by parlorbikes
09.7.09 - 8:51 am

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maybe you shouldn't ride at all... because there is a chance something will happen to you even when you are COMPLETELY FUCKING SOBER



snowcone
responding to a comment by ideasculptor
09.7.09 - 8:54 am

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with that kind of attitude... i will not be attending any of the rides you put on

but i might consider buying you this shirt....



then you can show everyone how you really feel about them



snowcone
responding to a comment by rev106
09.7.09 - 8:56 am

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ay i know that guy



cutter210
09.7.09 - 10:15 am

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aye thats me! haha



LouisAve
responding to a comment by snowcone
09.7.09 - 10:16 am

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ignorant of common sense???

Well we saw how well your common sense operated. "ummmm, he doesnt look drunk -- LETS RIDE!!!"


I like this part the best:

"as usual.. your response, md2, is so ignorant of common sense that i cannot respond to it. "

BUUUUUT...

"(200 lbs... weight of bike and rider... when you calculate the force of the bicycle when it hits another object, you need to know the combined mass, not just the mass of the bicycle) "

hmmmm.... okay, thanks for not responding.. again why does it matter? whats your point? do you have one?

This is the point right, Snowcunt:

Combined mass??? WHy?

our society doesnt prosecute bikes or automobiles. Hence, total weight, rarely matters. you want to make a point about bikes not being as potentially destructive when operated by a drunk, versus a car.

Why does weight matter???

If a 300lb drunkard is stumbling down a street path, he has greater potential to crush someone, than, lets say your rainbow syrup filled body... plus your massive amount o hair (which probably mainly contributes to your 228 combined mass) would cushion the fall (i suppose), or choke someone. Hence, you deserve compassion.

Anyhow, do we suggest -- "come on guys, fat people shouldnt be drinking and roaming the streets, or at least the laws should give skinny people a break."

Look... Haagan-Dazs, there are two parts (at this point) of the problem and you're confusing the two:

1. The act of drinking + operating a certain piece of machinery (M)

2. The consequences, results, effects, and the like, of (1).
2a. Depending on the type of M, the reality of 2 can vary


Now, 1 (DUIs/BUIs)... is against the law even if 2 (damages) does not occur...

How do you punish 1, if 2 does not occur? Do you sit around and think, "a biker could fly into a rear window", "oh oh, a biker could crash into a taco truck and catch on fire, and possibly kill the chefs." Hence, maybe we should treat the matter equally... sounds fair.

Now 2... is where weight MATTERS. And guess what-- what ever damage you cause (ugh), youre responsible for too. And guess what, you're not responsible for vehicluar manslaughter, if you only fly into a rear window. We dont punish the same in this scenario (duh).

So in reality Slow-one, the world already operates that way.

Can you kill someone by riding 25mph on your bike (maybe).

But in all, I dont want to put words in your mouth, if there is room with all the delicious crushed ice in it?




md2
responding to a comment by snowcone
09.7.09 - 10:45 am

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This is not quite right either.

From Newton's law we know that F=ma

So we know the mass was 200#. Acceleration is a=Dv/Dt. We know that Dv was 25mph. Dv is the change in velocity, so that would be from 25mph to 0mph. What we don't know is the Dt, the time it took for the change to occur. We are going to ignore that the rider put his head through a windshield and just assumed he hit a brick wall here. Otherwise we'll have to calculate the rate of deceleration. A rough estimate would be that it took this rider approximately .1 seconds to stop. So now we everything we need for the equation F=ma.

200# x 25mph /.1seconds x .0455

The last unit is a conversion since pound-mph per second doesn't make sense to many people.

So the down and dirty answer to this query would be a force of 2275#

BTW, that is one stupid kid.



Professor Rat
responding to a comment by snowcone
09.7.09 - 10:47 am

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228 pounds is not the mass--228 pounds is the force of a 200 pound object moving at 25 mph. in order to determine how much damage that can do, you have to also look at the impact area to determine the PSI of the initial impact as well as the hardness/bounciness of the objects.



snowcone
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09.7.09 - 10:55 am

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200 pounds = 90.718474 kilograms
25 mph = 11.17600 meters per second

momentum = mass * velocity

90.718474 kg * 11.17600 m/s = 1013.869665424 kg*m/s (N)

1013.869665424 newtons = 227.926968 pounds force





snowcone
responding to a comment by Professor Rat
09.7.09 - 11:01 am

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oh snap... kg*m/s is not a newton



snowcone
09.7.09 - 11:03 am

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(90.718474 kg * 11.17600 m/s )/ 1 s = 1013.869665424 kg*m/s^2 (N)



snowcone
09.7.09 - 11:04 am

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it all depends on the deceleration time

if you use 1 second, my answer is correct... if you use .1 second your answer is correct

hahaha



snowcone
responding to a comment by Professor Rat
09.7.09 - 11:06 am

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Didn't I say the "the down and dirty" answer? That meant keeping things simple so everyone could follow it. You lost major points by not showing your work too! And 1 second to stop hitting a brick wall? paaaalleeezzzz!!!



Professor Rat
responding to a comment by snowcone
09.7.09 - 11:18 am

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fucking stupid

hey guess what? if a bicycle hits a brick wall, the bicycle will stop and the rida will fly off... most of the energy remains in the rida as he or she hits the wall later. 0.1 second for a bike to hit a brick wall, person fly off and hit the brick wall... hmm?

the whole point of the initial mention of masses and speeds was to show that a drunk driver is way more dangerous than a drunk cyclist. just like a drunk passenger jet pilot is more dangerous than a drunk driver.



snowcone
responding to a comment by Professor Rat
09.7.09 - 11:24 am

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Once again, didn't I say the "the down and dirty" answer? That meant keeping things simple so everyone could follow it.

What's next, you defending that this guy isn't an idiot?



Professor Rat
responding to a comment by snowcone
09.7.09 - 11:37 am

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how is .1 second easier than 1 second dipshit?

you created a new anonymous account today so you could talk shit without anyone knowing who you are.



snowcone
responding to a comment by Professor Rat
09.7.09 - 11:40 am

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Hey snowcone, maybe you should go back to school. I did mine based on 1 millisecond impact. Please let me know when you see a accident that lasts a full second. I used to work for an insurance company doing accident recreations. Please tell me I'm wrong again. I love laughing so hard I don/t need to do sit-ups or ab core workouts for a week. Gets it out of the way while reading posts on MNRDZ.

I love how you probably googled impact force calculation to correct yourself and where still wrong!!!! FAIL

Your stupidity shows in the fact that you actually posted up that his impact force was 228lbs of force.

A rider + bike going just over 1mph at 200lbs will impact with more force than 228lbs. Even if the impact took a full second.

My answer does not indicate the amount of surface area that did absorb the impact. I would assume his jello filled sack of bones squished quite randomly on the vans backside.


I LOVE THIS POST!!!

Borfo post of the week??????

Where is Dedicated on this one?

+rev106 typical hipster that would think a coaster brake is when you skid stop!!





parlorbikes
09.7.09 - 11:46 am

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it is potentially more dangerous...

and that is the reason people take certain circumstances more serious.

DUI is a big problem
BUI is not as much of a problem

Does this mean... show compassion to drunk bicyclist because like you never drank and rode your bike before. You can say the same in every case whether cars, or talking amongst pilots...

if some dont show compassion, does that deserve "fuck you guys"?

You went down that path....



md2
responding to a comment by snowcone
09.7.09 - 11:47 am

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snowcone...

you get pretty brave on the forums, with this dipshit, fuck you, style stuff....

maybe the 4000 block of Melrose near Virgil is local to some. You should calm down. Not everyone hear is a pussy as you imagine.

chill out.



md2
responding to a comment by snowcone
09.7.09 - 11:49 am

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even with one millisecond, your answer is still wrong dumb ass



snowcone
responding to a comment by parlorbikes
09.7.09 - 11:52 am

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using this calculator: http://www.californiadmvdefense.com/california_dui/bac_calculator.asp

and the values of...

4 beers
3 hours
male
150 lbs

0.067 BAC
Legal Limit: 0.08

------------------------------------

what i'm saying is (unless jona insists otherwise) his hitting the car was unfortunate and not solely a result of drinking. he could have been completely sober and the same thing would have happened, and it could happen to any one of you too.



snowcone
responding to a comment by md2
09.7.09 - 12:00 pm

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are you threatening me?



snowcone
responding to a comment by md2
09.7.09 - 12:03 pm

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I better call Microsoft and tell them their computer is not calculating correctly.

Ok to prove me wrong I will put and racing car corner weight scale on a brick wall and give you 1 dollar to ride into it at 25mph. First we will fill you wth beer(paid for ny me) untill you AND your bikes weight(mass) is equal to 200lbs. You down? I can get the scale from the Cosworth racing facility.

Let me know.

I can most likely get a high speed camera to show up too.



parlorbikes
09.7.09 - 12:03 pm

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that sounds like a great idea....

how about you fill me with beer and leave it at that?



snowcone
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09.7.09 - 12:07 pm

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I would be down. As long as you are of age. Most of these post can be settled by drinking beer and hanging out. Many people don't even know the person they are bickering with. Maybe we can talk physics? When I am really drunk I just ride off my diving board into my pool on a 16" barbie bike!!!!! Its like hitting a big pool of water at slow speed in blurry slow motion. Make sure you know which way is up. I have yet to encounter any stitches from this type of drunken riding.

Follow the bubbles and you will be fine.



parlorbikes
responding to a comment by snowcone
09.7.09 - 12:12 pm

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yeah, i am of age... haha. i'm down for talking physics as long as we talk in SI units :D

not knowing each other is exactly the problem. i met this guy who crashed. we were riding side by side when it happened. if all of the people who made comments implying he got what he deserved were there too... they would have been just as shocked and upset about the crash as i was. i think the crash was honestly a result of lack of experience. if he had been riding in the center of the lane rather than on the shoulder, he would not have hit the van. he didn't swerve onto the side... he was riding in the shoulder in a straight line for at least 15 seconds before it happened.



snowcone
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09.7.09 - 12:25 pm

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One more quesion that has et to be answered.

HELMET?

I personally would not be here at least 5 times from accidents either off-road or on, car or no car, if I did not have a HELMET?????



parlorbikes
responding to a comment by snowcone
09.7.09 - 12:28 pm

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"are you threatening me?"

you're suck a geek... read my post and ask yourself-- is he threatening me? Obviously you've never been threatened before.




md2
responding to a comment by snowcone
09.7.09 - 12:31 pm

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I had no intentions on creating an account. I happen to be doing some browsing to see where I wanted to move to. I heard about your site from a blog and wanted to see what kind of riders are out there. I guess this thread answered that!



Professor Rat
responding to a comment by snowcone
09.7.09 - 12:42 pm

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you had no intentions of creating account, yet you did just to post in this thread.

hahahahahahaha... yes, i believe that



snowcone
responding to a comment by Professor Rat
09.7.09 - 12:45 pm

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DON'T POST A PICTURE OF YOURSELF

haha, i'm kidding :P



snowcone
responding to a comment by md2
09.7.09 - 12:47 pm

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I don't want to be hit by a drunk driver or a drunk bicyclist. Kthx. I think the real lesson here is if you're going to drink and ride, don't ride fast. Better not to drink, but that's not going to stop a lot of you. It's unfortunate this guy crashed, but I'm glad he didn't crash into someone else.



will
09.7.09 - 4:55 pm

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ummmm you can still do damage if you're drunk and riding slow. We were first hand witnesses to this over the weekend. I felt like beating the guy's ass. He was in completely the wrong position on a neighborhood road we were traveling on.

As far as weather he was wearing a helmet or not. I think snowcone continually avoiding the question should answer that.

So who's "ignorant of common sense", "fucking stupid ", "a dipshit", "dumb ass"?

HAHAHAHAHA........... and this dude snowcone is fixing MR? Hope he's better at that than drawing up logical conclusions!



User1
responding to a comment by will
09.7.09 - 5:12 pm

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Oh yeah, rev106 would probably be voted most likely to wear that t-shirt you posted. LOL



User1
09.7.09 - 5:13 pm

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thank you for the information. i'll be following up with this first thing tuesday.



Officer_Schube
responding to a comment by md2
09.7.09 - 5:14 pm

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coldcut
09.7.09 - 5:17 pm

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snowcone, i like your logic. if you ever see me on a ride, come say hi. i'll be twisting arms on the roadside.



Officer_Schube
responding to a comment by snowcone
09.7.09 - 5:17 pm

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if you need me to answer whether he was wearing a helmet or not, then i will never be able to help you.

even sober people, YES SOBER PEOPLE, ride in the wrong position! but wait.. let's just keep blaming all the problems on alcohol consumption!!!

show me where i had problems drawing up logical conclusions oh wise one...

fixing MR? if i was fixing MR... you would have to go!



snowcone
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09.7.09 - 5:32 pm

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snowcone
09.7.09 - 5:35 pm

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I don't see how someone hitting a huge stationary object could be an accident. And I wonder about the reason for the post. If I hit a parked car, I wouldn't mention it to anyone. It might be a badge of of courage, the stitches and all. But jumping head first into an empty pool is just as silly.

Unfortunately MR has been an opportunity for a whole bunch of juveniles and minors to get drunk/high. The beer flows freely, can't stop that. Can't blame the kids too much, someone had to buy the beer.

Only difference between now and then is the number of kids on the ride. This will probably go on until someone gets seriously hurt or die. Just hope when that happens that the irresponsible party is the one that goes, sucks being a casualty of another's inconsideration.



sc_nomad
09.7.09 - 5:37 pm

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this wasn't an MR ride



snowcone
responding to a comment by sc_nomad
09.7.09 - 5:38 pm

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The OP deserves compassion as a fellow human being who has been hurt.

But he also deserves a reprimand for his stupidity and if the van sustained damage, then the owner deserves restitution. If you woke up and found your bike smashed by a drunk driver (Pedestrian, cyclist, bear, spaceship, etc), you'd be pissed.

The OP's bad spelling deserves SpellCheck.

If it were me I would be embarrassed for my blatant irresponsibility, I would have left a note on the van, apologized to the rest of the ride, and disappeared from MR all together for a while.

But maybe I'm weird.

Okay, going back to my job hunt. See you guys on the other side.



HappyLand
09.7.09 - 5:47 pm

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The incident was still posted on the MR forum hence a part of the community. Bottom line is whether it is a MR ride or not, this forum and the rides promotes this behavior albeit unintentionally. The party is as much the appeal as is the ride.



sc_nomad
responding to a comment by snowcone
09.7.09 - 5:48 pm

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fuck you guys for not showing any compassion... like you have never ridden a bike after drinking. i couldn't even tell he was drunk, i witnessed the whole thing.

Well was he wearing a helmet or not? You have any idea many people asked that above and how long ago?

And you sticking up for this kid when clearly he doesn't know how to ride yet, or drink for that matter, shows you have problems drawing the correct conclusion. Him not wearing a helmet just furthers the point I'm making too.



User1
responding to a comment by snowcone
09.7.09 - 5:48 pm

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I'll wear it to my own ride, that's how much I don't care. But not in white, it will get too dirty too quickly.

I'll take a l or m in size.

Thanks!



rev106
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09.8.09 - 8:41 am

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Joe Borfo
09.8.09 - 9:22 am

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Glad your not dead.

But I have to agree. Just like driving drunk, riding drunk is just not a good idea. Sound like next time you better hang out longer or have less beers.

At least you didn't hurt anyone else.

Next time, drink less, ride more!





thegodofthor
09.8.09 - 9:27 am

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read the entire thread before you post please



snowcone
responding to a comment by thegodofthor
09.8.09 - 9:43 am

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Your all a bunch of real major league ass holes!!!
Ok, one thing is to let him know that its not ok to drink and ride but its another when your just talking down for him and joking about his injuries.

All you stupid mother fuckers on here have drank and rode there bikes on more than one occasion! Accidents happen! one thing i do agree on is that the van owner should get his window open. Its not that guy's fault for parking in the area you were crashing into.
Get better and take this time to think about what happend and how you can avoid this ordeal next time.



Venomous_inches
09.8.09 - 9:49 am

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we talked with the van owner at the time of the crash. two of the guys gave him their numbers to get in touch with him the next day to fix his van.



snowcone
responding to a comment by Venomous_inches
09.8.09 - 10:11 am

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There you go mother fuckers! lay off the kid. Accidents happen and the kid is doing what is needed to address the broken window issue



Venomous_inches
responding to a comment by snowcone
09.8.09 - 10:15 am

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Houston, I think we have a problem. The same Troll is back at it.


"but *it's another when *YOU'RE just talking down for him (OR *TO HIM?) and joking about his injuries"


Hey there Puck. We missed ya.



Not.



-Dexter-
responding to a comment by Venomous_inches
09.8.09 - 10:16 am

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Only LUSER1! would say this.
YOU JUST REVEALED YOUR SELF CUNT.
THANX GRAMMAR POLICE AND NEXT TIME ASK ME IF I GIVE A FUCK




Venomous_inches
responding to a comment by -Dexter-
09.8.09 - 10:21 am

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s hould I h ave u sed y our o ther a lias, TAC?


a nd l eave Allen o ut o f t his.

- Sup Old Man, You Still Riding Now A Days?



-Dexter-
responding to a comment by Venomous_inches
09.8.09 - 10:24 am

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i remember when this happened to me. safe to say i learned my lesson. i hope you learned yours.





_iJunes
09.8.09 - 10:26 am

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this is why i dont booze up heavily in the middle of a ride. you're supposed to pace yourself and ride it out till your sober and repeat. tsk tsk... i hope the car was okay



feetpower
09.8.09 - 11:38 am

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you know what's annoying? people who read the first comment or two and then post something.



snowcone
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09.8.09 - 11:48 am

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we talked with the van owner at the time of the crash. two of the guys gave him their numbers to get in touch with him the next day to fix his van.


OK your creditability is officially shot! This was was brought up over two days ago and was asked on the third post of this thread. You expect us now to believe you talked to the owner of the van???? Why didn't you say this two days ago? Other people also brought this up later in the thread. Why didn't you address this then?

How much longer you think will be waiting till you tell us if he was wearing a helmet or not? I already know the answer. I'm just waiting for you to say it.

Also would the trolls on this thread like to introduce themselves? Just a little about yourselves would be fine.



User1
responding to a comment by snowcone
09.8.09 - 12:53 pm

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haha... do you get off to this shit?



snowcone
responding to a comment by User1
09.8.09 - 12:59 pm

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Let it be known that about a year ago while completely sober and in broad daylight, while cranking it off the saddle going slowly up a hill of the street I live on with my head down so as to not be looking in front of me, I had the entirely embarrassing misfortune of riding right into the back of a double-parked minivan at about 4-5 mph. Bent my forks and cut my chin on the rear window glass!

Just saying regrettable shit happens, even to someone like me who purports to be a responsible rider.



Agent Orange
09.8.09 - 1:07 pm

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No, just got a thing about BSers. BSers don't last around me. ;-)



User1
responding to a comment by snowcone
09.8.09 - 1:09 pm

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I'm a blood spatter expert for the Miami P.D. and I assist with basic crime scene investigation work. While not a sworn police officer, I have more privledges than the average citizen and am privy to lots of classified information. My bloodlust has been described as the only emotion I experience.

As a child I was discovered by Miami P.D. officer Harry Morgan locked in a blood soaked trailer . Much of the details of my rescue were kept secret by Harry after he adopted me and raised me as his son along with his daughter Debra Morgan. During my teenage years my step dad realized I had dark tendencies and a near unsatisiable bloodlust, including my utter lack of emotion and feeling. Harry recognized these as tendencies of a serial killer and with understanding love and compassion developed a way for me to channel them called "Harry's Code." He also established healthier outlets for the blood rage such as frequent hunting trips.

"Harry's Code" evolved into an ethos for myself to follow entailing vital information. This ethos involved creating an elaborate mask for myself to wear feigning emotion and interest in things that really didn't. This involved the mudane smiles when happy and laughs when cohorts tell a joke. I'm in a relationship with Rita Bennett, whom I've recently married and who was also distanced emotionally due to a rocky relationship with a herion addicted ex-husband.

The major part of "Harry's Code" would define my utter being as a killer. I could harm no innocent, only the guilty. Using an ample history of unsolved case files and known criminals I carefully investigate each of my victims before stalking and killing them. My M.O. is to use a veterninary tranquilizer to subdue the victim, then to strip then naked and immobilize them with clear plastic wrap. Coating the entire crime scene in plastic I ensures no evidence is ever left before presenting a consciousness victim with their crimes before killing and dismembering them. Their bodies are left at the bottom of the Miami bay in garbage bags with the only trophy a lens of blood I keeps as a reminder. Part vigiliante, part killer, all precise, I like to think of myself as a clean efficient killer - so much so that for years I've yet to be detected.

I also like to ride bikes occasionally.



-Dexter-
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09.8.09 - 1:47 pm

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