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WHERE: Sawtelle and La Grange (1950 sawtelle blvd)
WHEN: Nov. 22nd
Meet at 9:30
Ride at 10:00
We Ride on this ride.
We Drink on this ride.
We Smoke on this ride.
We Impregnate on this ride.
We PARTY TIME on this ride.
We DANCE PARTY on this ride.
We MAKE IT HAPPEN on this ride.
So Bring It.
Bring your friends, your bikes, and your food arsenal.
Be prepared for a
FOOOOOD FIGHTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and a shitload more!!
DO NOT BRING CANNED GOODS TO THIS RIDE.
The only food being donated is to other ridazz' faces.
We talked about this Richtotheie, there is already a well established Cranksgiving Alleycat ride, that happens all over the world and helps collect food for the poor.
How about we call it the C.R.A.N.K. Mob that was near thanksgiving.
Sheesh. Call it the "We'll do a parking lot drinking "ride" for any occasion". But don't call it Cranksgiving, since it already exist, and it actually involves riding/racing with the purpose of hooking people up with food.
You turkeys would do a parking lot drinking "ride" over you mommas death, I swear...
a.) Thanks, franz, for pointing out that we should really, really-really not hijack the name of another well-established ride.
b.) Can we not throw food, please? Lame. There's gonna be people walking around with nothing to eat just a few days after, on a day that's already famous for excessive eating. Let's not make it worse. The fact that the ride title was hijacked from a ride that actually does donate food to the homeless just makes it worse. "Don't bring canned goods," indeed.
Sorry to be a hater, but come on, dudes. Try not to be dicks.
There is not a food shortage. The world is filled with abundance. You may think there is a shortage of fake processed food but as a dumpster diver I know better. And of course there is plenty of grass, weeds, wild berries, insects and other real food. The only shortage is in fun. We will make up for that.
You guys fucking kill me, you know that? This is what it devolves to: a pack of fratheaded Mobsterz jacking a Longtime Benefit Alleycat so that they can get drunk, ride in circles and do absolutely NOTHING for the community-and by community, I'm talking about the rest of the world around you that doesn't ride bikes.
So yeah, thanks a bunches for advertising something that has absolutely nothing to do with Cranksgiving, much less helping people around you.
Theres TWO alleycats/rides benefiting the homeless Thanksgiving week. Join in or better yet, do yourself [and others] a favor, and actually ride around, pick up some food, drop off to a Charity that accepts it, and then get drunk.
It's not that hard.
Clowns...
Damn! Did you guys forget to put the seats back on your seatposts before getting on your rides, or what? However it got there, pull that stick back out of your ass and lighten up a little. It's CRANK mob. Near thanksgiving. Call it whatever the hell you want. God forbid someone should be unaware of the existence of another ride with the same name - a gratuitously obvious name for someone to choose, I might add. It isn't going to effect how much we each do or do not donate to charity for the holidays
ideasculptor -
God forbid someone should be unaware of the existence of another ride with the same name - a gratuitously obvious name for someone to choose, I might add.
Me -
Wait! Someone is claiming they didn't know there was a Cranksgiving ride around this time each year? Who was that?
Stepping on other peeps work shows really bad form btw.
I like Crank Mob, but I also like this Sleepy cat, we need more bold people to come out like that and speak their mind. KatieP makes a good point - I come from a 3rd world country, I'm not too keen on a food fight.
alec, you may be right that there's no food shortage. But it feels weird that supplies for our party will be better than their dinner. Better as in newer, as in not subject to bugs and mice crawling through it first (I'm not saying packaged food is better -- I want to clarify that). I just don't like the idea of throwing out food, I guess, and I'm surprised that it hasn't come up earlier in the thread.
ideasculptor, if you had an annual ride going for 7 years (is it 7?) and then some 1-year-olds decided to name their ride the exact same thing but with pretty much none of the ethos of your ride, I think you would feel differently about the pole up my ass.
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AND ON THE LIST IS NUMBER 7: CRANKGIVING IN LOS ANGELES !!!
11,100 FUCKIN CRANKSGIVING LISTINGS , WHY NOT ANOTHER ONE?
IS THERE SOME KINDA LAW STATING ONLY ONE CRANKSGIVING PER 50 SQUARE MILES?
WHY FIGHT OVER THIS, AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHY FEED THE DRUG ADDICTS?
OR BETTER YET, WHY BREATH AIR, AND SMELL THE AIR?
OR EVEN BETTER, WHY FIGHT, OR COMPLAIN ABOUT THE NAME OF A RIDE?
YOU KNOW WHATS REALLY FUNNY, FUCKIN 'HIPSTER NASCAR'
( SEE ABOVE #3 )
HAS A CRANKGIVING RIDE, AND IT BEATS THE SHIT OUT OF CRANKGIVING IN LOS ANGELES.
YOU THINK THEY COMPLAINING ABOUT FUCKERS ON BICYCLES CALLING A RIDE 'CRANKSGIVING'???
Call me crazy but I see a common thread when I google "Cranksgiving". Things like food drive, needy, and charity seem to be a common theme through each event. No one is saying you shouldn't have a cranksgiving ride, what people are objecting to is disregard you're showing to alot of people. Alot of people this maybe the only time they are reaching out to the general public. It may mean alot to people that are involved in this each year.
Either stick to the theme or call it something different is what these people are telling you.
ANY NAME OF A RIDE COULD BE CORRECT, AS LONG AS IT IS POLITALLY CORRECT, IN OTHER WORDS, CALL IT ANY THING THAT DOES NOT PUT DOWN, DEMEANOR, OR OTHERWISE OFFEND ANY ONE.
JUST BECAUSE IT'S COMING UP ON THANKS GIVING, DOES NOT MEAN I HAVE TO DO WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE DOES.
I'M TRULY THANKFUL THAT I CAN GET ON MY BIKE AND GO WHERE EVER I WANT, AND THAT IS TRULY SOMETHING WORTH CELEBRATING,
YOU CELEBRATE
THANKS GIVING YOUR WAY, GIVE UP YOUR MONEY, THEN SUFFER LATER ON, IN THE YEAR, ASK SOMEONE FOR A 'HAND OUT' AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS
YOU CAN DEBATE THIS ALL YOU WANT.
I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A HOLIDAY THAT REQUIRES THAT PEOPLE WHO USE THANKS GIVING TO 'COME UP' AT ANOTHER'S EXPERIENCE ALSO HAVE TO GIVE BACK, TO PEOPLE WHO ARE RICH.
LAUGH ALL YOU WANT, BUT LIFE IS SHORT, AND REAL FRIENDS SHARE, TO SHARE WITH SOMEONE WHO CANT OR WILL NOT BRING THEIR SELF OUT OF WHAT EVER THEY GOING THROUGH, IS WRONG.
I ALWAYS TRY TO OFFER MY SERVICES FOR MONEY, AND I DON'T LIKE HAND OUTS, GET THEM TO DO A GOOD DEED, SOME WHERE,
IF THEY A CRACK HEAD, OR A LAW BREAKER, OR BIKE STEALER, SHOULD WE SUPPORT THEM CAUSE THEY HUNGRY?
THINK ABOUT IT, FAMILIES THAT NEED FOOD, AND ARE SHORT OF MONEYS, OK, I AGREE, TO HELP THEM IF I AM ABLE.
STUCK IN A WHEEL CHAIR? HELP THEM.
GOT A FLAT? HELP THEM.
THATS WHY YOU WILL SEE ME AT THE 'CRANKSGIVING' RIDE.
Cranksgiving has been thrown by NYC messengers for 10 years, LA messengers for 8 years, and a whole bunch of other places who have caught on to the idea of racing around hitting up supermarkets instead of regular checkpoints, and donating food to local charities... as much as I love C.R.A.N.K.Mob - I absolutely do not agree with using this as the Nov ride name...
i wonder how much food you guys waste on a day to day basis anyways. and don't give me this bullshit "i eat everything" or only "order what i can eat" cus that's a fucking lie. i havent met one single soul, me included, who does not waste on a daily basis.
Unfuckingbelievable.
We're in a recession. People are losing their homes. And you anal rejects want to have a food fight?
Pathetic.
If anybody bothered to pay attention, Cranksgiving donates the food to Para Los Ninos. An organization that feeds homeless FAMILIES. If any of you potheaded fixsters bothered to pull your head out of that pile of cocaine at your local hipster dive, you'd notice that in this year, there is LESS food for the homeless.
Yes, I know that we're not going to feed all of LA with a bunch of racers, but to see you guys plan a big ol' party and waste food is abhorrent. It's a black eye for cyclist, and it's a black eye for humans.
Nearly all the CRANKSGIVINGs that take place do so to feed those less fortunate than ourselves, and all you colostomy bags can think of is having a dumbass drunk fest where y'all get in traffics way to woop it up?
If this is the state of Ridazz in LA, LA is fucked.
It ain't about views, I'm not whining about the color green vs the color blue, I'm yammering about people jacking a Rides title to have a ride that is contrary in philosophy to the actual ride.
It's about calling bullshit.
Bullshit.
Be useful. Collect food. Donate.
Use those liberal art degrees to come up with an original ride name.
why pick one day? why not do it everyday? i try to do my part... and that means as much as i can. not wait around for one day for me to make a difference. see, i understand what you're saying... but again, it is not everyone's prerogative - it would be nice though - but come on man... that's not the only ride with that name. not only that but that whole fucking holiday was based on bullshit. unless you were the chicken pox blanket carrying man.
You're right.
Let's go throw food in each others faces. Let's do it in Skid Row! Right in front of the Midnight Mission! The bums'll love it!
Hey, I think I'll start C.R.A.N.K.pack. We're going to start in Griffith Park, and we're gonna carry messenger bags full of PCP, then maybe we can do our Saturday Night Special FerretPack Omelette Fridays. We're going to ride, and take pictures of disabled people making out on their scraper bikes. Ha ha! It'll be FUN!
kk so now that i've finally had time to read this thread.
numero 1: I didn't know about the longstanding ride, 'cranksgiving', before naming this months C.R.A.N.K. MOB. A nice personal email or call explaining the original ride and other details would have been great.
numero 2: Myself along with dozens of other C.R.A.N.K. MOBBERS donate and volunteer plenty all year round. Don't even TRY to make us look like we don't give back as people.
numero 3: Me buying a box of crackers and a stick of cookie dough to throw at people IS NOT going to affect the stomachs of homeless people in LA. At home, if we don't use, usually it's thrown away, not handed to a 'hungry person'.
You've all made your assumptions, and i would love to know why none of you emailed me personally with your opinions or suggestions, but rather decided to rant here and not achieve anything but rile up certain "sleepy" ridazz and cause unnecessary animosity.
Not to worry, I’ve consulted common sense- The earth will never run out of food, water or fun. In fact, in regards to the latter, the more you use the more there is.
richtotheie, I didn't email you about it personally because I didn't think I had to. This is a forum -- a place for discussion. Maybe writing "Lame" was dismissive, but it's not beyond the pale compared to a lot of the stuff other people write here.
I still don't agree with the ride. "We waste food every day, so what's one more day?" (I'm paraphrasing) is complacent, & it comes off as a celebration of waste. I'd rather celebrate other things.
So I will, and I won't speak more on the matter. Have a good time.
1) Richie obviously did not know about Cranksgiving. The last Cranksgiving Alleycat in LA was 06 I believe, and frankly I had forgotten about Cranksgiving until I saw a post on Urban Velo. So if you're gonna get in Richie's face about this shit, you can get in mine too. That should work out well as long as you've done more for this community than Richie and I
2) Name calling is not called for. Richie loves to be called names, but that's in bed.
3) The notion that there is not enough food to go around is obviously false. There is a misallocation of resources that results in some people going hungry.
4) If you want to try to mitigate that problem - do so. Walk the walk. But Richie works his ass off for y'all, and if he wants to be hedonistic in a way which is not perfectly angelic, I support it.
5) I'll be holding a water fight in the middle of the food fight. There's a shortage of that too. Rip me a new one. Afterward I'll rob a bank and burn money.
There's a difference between criticism, and the travesty of nastiness above. And I'll stay on my high horse thank you very much, when are you gonna climb down from your giraffe?
It seems like there's plenty of nastiness to go around. Believe it or not, some might feel that mocking the very idea of charity while appropriating the name of a charitable event is a little nasty. I guess what I'm trying to say is that you're not helping.
No, you're being utterly awful to assume that Richie meant to do that. That goes against everything that I know about Richie, and it goes against everything you know about Richie. For you to assume that not only knew of the other Cranksgiving, but meant to mock it, shows a scary willingness to believe ill of those who have never done you, or your friends, ill.
Jeez, Thompson, could you be a little more melodramatic in your defense of thoughtlessness? I don't think they could see you in the balcony of the theater on the other side of the street. Nobody here is evil, but somebody made a douche move, and just owning up to it would stop all the drama in its tracks. You being shitty and defensive, on the other hand, just makes it less likely that this will happen. Chew on that, Chu On Dat.
I seriously doubt Richie was mocking this other C.R.A.N.K.SGIVING thing. Meth addicts in the midwest also give this name to thanksgiving and they never even eat. My point is, start giving meth to hungry people and everyone will be happy.
"Then Eastside, Westside, shake hands and consider yourselves forgiven."
CYPER HUG 4 EVERY1
(cyber for katie, cyber for richie, cyber for AT, cyber for PC)
This looks more like an argument between random ppl than another East vs West battle, hopefully at some point we will get some relief from the assumption that East & West always disagree?
most people with beef about the ride dont even ride with midnight ridazz anymore (or ever). not everyone who rides a bike in la enjoys what goes on here. they see it as a circus, and thats pretty much what it is at this point.
"1) Richie obviously did not know about Cranksgiving. The last Cranksgiving Alleycat in LA was 06 I believe, and frankly I had forgotten about Cranksgiving until I saw a post on Urban Velo. So if you're gonna get in Richie's face about this shit, you can get in mine too. That should work out well as long as you've done more for this community than Richie and I "
I'm not gonna get in your face, but I am going to disagree. Cransgiving has taken place every year since it's inception. It took place in '07, it took place in '03, and it's gonna take place '08. It's nice that you have the merit badge for party rides and what not, but if you look around beyond your scene, you'd see that there's plenty of shit taken place too. Surprisingly enough, some of that shit has been taking place longer.
"Fun" too!
the real Cranksgiving WAS held last year, and Skano's sister got 2nd place for the women's division, and Demarco from MASH SF fame got DFL. PROPS to Richie for changing his ride's name, and continuing CRANK MOB!
richtotheie -
numero 1: I didn't know about the longstanding ride, 'cranksgiving', before naming this months C.R.A.N.K. MOB. A nice personal email or call explaining the original ride and other details would have been great.
Me -
OK you know that game Bullshit?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_(game)
This is where I call BS on richie. Franz told about not doing this and you went ahead and did it anyway. His post is the FIFTH post here. It reads in part,
We talked about this Richtotheie, there is already a well established Cranksgiving Alleycat ride, that happens all over the world and helps collect food for the poor.
You could have saved everyone the drama Richie if listened to your friend. OK so what do I win?
(if this gets lost like tallcans4tallbikes's post that there was a Cranksgiving last year, I'll just repost)
Oh yeah? Well, you need to climb down off of MY giraffe! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHA AHA HAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA AHA HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH A HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
the issue at hand is there is an obvious disconnect felt by some with what is perceived as ignorant (yes i side with sleepy on this one) johnny come latelys (miscategorized as hipsters) who are now prevalent and some would argue the "leadership" of the "bike community" in LA......
and those who have ridden their bikes in LA as a form of employment, transportation, or desire, long before this website existed (and because of this admittedly ride a high horse, or tall bike if you will) and the idea that an event that predates the idea of "bike community" and reaches out to physical and longstanding community (which some of us grew up in or at least can empathize with) is being jacked by an infant ride known for its self indulgent "F.U.N." just sits wrong with me and others who share this view.
at its basic level even if no harm was intended and im sure the organizers have done much for those in the "bike community", it is still a symbolic slap in the face and reflects a larger issue with los angeles and the problem of living in a city that is ahistorical in its constant reinvention in character and demographics.
Richie, just want to reinterate I wasn't chastising you just bringing the fact there was already a ride with that name. I really don't understand the hostility of some of you people, especially friends.
There was no real problem here. The name was changed when the other cranksgiving was brought to attention. This was basically just an anti-Crank Mob tirade, I realize some of you don't like it and that's fine but this negativity is uncalled for.
Every one here claims to hate drama, yet this is the type of shit that unnecessarily creates it. There is very little actual drama in Midnight Ridazz, it just seems like there are maybe a few people who like to stir the pot unnecessarily.
@ashira, I've never been to the Cranksgiving event you posted the flyer for. I don't intend to compete, but I would like to watch / participate somehow. Is it worthwhile to head down to watch? Does anybody need any help with it? It's such a rad event.
Sorta hijacking the thread. Don't have ashira's email address, otherwise I would have handled it that way. Sorry.
one year ago some people came up with the brilliant idea that i should call C.R.A.N.K. MOB Cranksgiving for the month of November. and i didn't for two reasons:
1) obviously there is already that *other* event called Cranksgiving.
2) my original intention for C.R.A.N.K. MOB was that there's no set theme for each ride but every theme counts. there is no Thanksgiving C.R.A.N.K. MOB, Christmas C.R.A.N.K. MOB or Halloween C.R.A.N.K. MOB. no matter what month it is, C.R.A.N.K. MOB is supposed to be Mardis Gras and Halloween and 4th Of July and Christmas and Thanksgiving and Valentine's Day and New Years and all the holidays all AT THE SAME TIME.
i hope that we can continue to stick to the original intentions of fun and respect.
i'm sorry that Richie fucked up on the name of this month and i'm glad that he changed it to something else. C.R.A.N.K. MOB is C.R.A.N.K. MOB no matter what.
already in life and then even moreso reading this thread
hanako = depressed
(yeah downer i know, but then i will say this)
hanako's chin = depressed
haha (foot pop) laughter to keep from hanging your head down
and then also
C.R.A.N.K. MOB!
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MY BIRTHDAY C.R.A.N.K. MOB!
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RIDING BIKES!
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HAVING F.U.N.
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OUTLETS OF CREATIVITY AND OUTWARD EXPRESSION!
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A CHANCE TO DRESS CRAZY (and in my case) QUITE STYLISH!
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ME PERSONALLY NOT INTO THROWING FOOD BUT ALSO QUITE AGAINST EXTREME NEGATIVITY PRESENTED IN THIS THREAD!
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I STILL REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY LIKE YOU!
DO YOU LIKE ME?!?!
YES! ____
NO! ____
MAYBE! ____
SORTAISH BUT KITTENZ IS MY NUMBA ONE BOO! ___
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