ATTN: Guy who stole my wheel
Thread started by
marino at 10.31.09 - 11:23 am
Thanks to the guy who came to the Aglago party and stole my front wheel and my 99 cent rear light. You are a classy dude. And you know how to pick fancy bike parts.
In case you were wondering how I made it back home...
I got a ride from a very hot lady.Thanks again.
The only thing I regret is that I had some spokecards there from some very special rides. I'll miss those. Douchebag.
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I saw a kid with a wheel walking in the kitchen towards the patio of Aglago last night. I was only there for about an hour.
Roadblock10.31.09 - 11:32 am
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where was the person who yelled at me for knocking over my own bike when THIS happened?
sklank10.31.09 - 1:37 pm
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So who's the guy that brought all the douchebag thieves to a house party?
toweliesbong11.1.09 - 5:22 pm
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Yeah. Whose great idea was it to bring a bunch of idiot thieves to the party?
Graham responding to a
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11.1.09 - 7:49 pm
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My guess would be someone from the People's Ride.
I was one of the last ones to pull up to the parking lot of the start of the People's Ride. I helped out with ridazz lagging behind making it up Vermont on the CM ride. I wasn't there for more than five minutes when I saw these characters tagging the parking blocks seen here. I swear alot of these ridazz on this ride are not the best of what MR has to offer. I've seen people tagging, people busted for stealing beer at Rite Aid, and a rida hitting parked cars TWICE on this ride. I had no intentions on doing this ride last Friday. Just wanted to say hi to some of the peeps I haven't seen in awhile. But yeah, not the best ride out there.
The pic shows the taggers. Sorry it's so blurry. I'll know next time.
User111.1.09 - 8:28 pm
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you are making assumptions that it was someone from the peoples' ride, and you are making assumptions that the people who came to the party would steal. the attitude you guys have toward people who fit your racial profile can sense your hostility toward them.
do not try to lay the blame on anyone other than the person whom did not take proper precautions to secure one's bicycle. anyone could have spotted the party from sunset, a major thoroughfare, and easily taken one of the many unsecured bicycles all around the party.
if we remembered to always lock our bicycles and remove things such as lights from them, there probably would have been no theft.
one girl came up to me at the start of the peoples' ride and told me that someone stole her bike after asking him to watch her bike while she went into the store. yes, we can blame the person who stole the bike, but we can also blame the person who gave the bike to a complete stranger to supervise.
marino, i'm sorry that your wheel and light were stolen. but guys, don't use this as an opportunity to build up more of a grudge with people whom you do not know! remember to keep your bike locked up any time you do not know
everyone where you are.
snowcone11.1.09 - 8:43 pm
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damn, sorry to hear about your wheel marino. i noticed one chick walking out with a wheel after stepping out for a little bit, but i assumed she was leaving and removed her front wheel when locking up.
coldcut11.1.09 - 8:45 pm
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Well yeah, I am making assumptions about these people, but I'm making it from passed experiences at this house and passed experiences from this ride. This house never had any problems like this that I know of and I've been going to events here for the last 2-3 years. Also there hasn't been stragglers that I'm aware of that has happen to come checkout the party from the streets. I lay the blame on whoever brought these people to the party. Yeah, I know that's an assumption too.
User1 responding to a
comment by snowcone
11.1.09 - 8:56 pm
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youre the first person to bring up race in this thread.
ruinedbyidiots responding to a
comment by snowcone
11.1.09 - 8:58 pm
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Considering the increase of real thefts on ride the last 6 months or so...its not out of the realm of possibility. And I didn't realize that LACM and People's Ride (I've been on both) have become race based rides?
TheJen11.1.09 - 9:01 pm
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It's pretty ignorant to start making accusations based on assumptions. Unless you actually saw the theft, maybe you should keep your assumptions to yourself.
Don't blame a ride or an ethnic group. The person stealing probably rides a bike, does that mean all bike riders are bad seeds? Once you start making assumptions, without proof, you only show your bias and hatred that is not needed at this time. We should all heed the warnings. Lock your shit up! There are some people who steal things. It's the world we live in.
hockeyjockey11.1.09 - 11:35 pm
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It's pretty obvious in this thread which people think about RACE when you mention a ride. What do you call that?
neverclever11.1.09 - 11:57 pm
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I don't see anyone tagging in this picture.
This could be just some random picture intended to slander the riders.
sgrant11.2.09 - 8:14 am
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Why are the trolls too scared to have an opinion and need to hide behind a newly created "funny" user name?
Foldie responding to a
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11.2.09 - 8:58 am
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plausible deniability, so the poster can feign ignorance and leave no evidence when their "jokes" are not funny. also to prevent a beating when others get angry at those inflammatory remarks.
spiraldemon responding to a
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11.2.09 - 9:05 am
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I was just wondering that myself.
I also think those that are feeling singled out (by whom I'm not sure) may be feeling their conscience...if the shoe fits.
Its sad that in a "community" one can not feel safe with their bikes. You would think there would be more respect and admiration of each others bikes. Instead there is judgment, jealousy and theft.
TheJen responding to a
comment by Foldie
11.2.09 - 9:08 am
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I wasn't on either ride or the party at Aglago....just pointing out that User1 made no reference to any race.
This is what he said:
"I wasn't there for more than five minutes when I saw these characters tagging the parking blocks seen here. I swear alot of these ridazz on this ride are not the best of what MR has to offer. I've seen people tagging, people busted for stealing beer at Rite Aid, and a rida hitting parked cars TWICE on this ride."
I'm not defending the ride, user1, or anyone/anything else....I don't go on certain rides cuz of the "opinion" i have based on what I've seen or heard. We all do this....
The Ride With No Name 1 year anniversary ride is on Friday 11/20/09.
barleye11.2.09 - 9:24 am
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Don't read to much into this. Many of these threads descend into personal bickering. If you have been following the drama on this forum for the past two years you know that there is a conflict between one or two riders and the organizers of certain rides.
Just sit back and watch the drama unfold. No one has been "beaten" yet. The war of words has yet to lead to blows. But let's face reality, there is no peace and love here.
I have been on many rides from the westside to the eastside and the valley, and there have always been stolen bikes and bike accessories. The thieves come in many faces and from differing socio-economic status. It is best, as one poster said, to lock everything up.
urbanpedal responding to a
comment by TheJen
11.2.09 - 9:40 am
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"yes, we can blame the person who stole the bike, but we can also blame the person who gave the bike to a complete stranger to supervise. "
Blame the victim. Always blame the victim. It's always the victims fault. It's never the scumbag thief's fault. The thief is just doing what's right and teaching the victim a lesson!!!
toweliesbong responding to a
comment by snowcone
11.2.09 - 10:07 am
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Exactly. Nice job playing the race card!
toweliesbong responding to a
comment by ruinedbyidiots
11.2.09 - 10:09 am
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just blame the wheel... the wheel should have defended itself
braydon responding to a
comment by toweliesbong
11.2.09 - 10:09 am
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I have a front wheel if you need one marino. It's 27" by 1.25" with the tire, tube and everything, it's off by Univega that's back tire got smashed by a car.
braydon11.2.09 - 10:12 am
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No black guy would be carrying mace unless he was a drag queen. You know that, right?
You got maced by a drag queen in civilian clothes driving a vegie oil conversion Mercedes in Siverlake. I bet you deserved it.
Share the road. Be polite to drivers.
marino
10.26.09 - 9:12 pm
***This is what marino posted on a mom ridazz thread when XL spoke about the group having someones foot getting run over and getting a face full of mace.
Should i say that this cum sack deserves his front rim getting jacked? NO.
Getting your shit jacked sucks balls. just like getting run over and maced.
Debut21311.2.09 - 10:18 am
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If you got the Facebook invitation, which was sent out to 400 people, it clearly instructed you to ride your bike there.
RIDE YOUR BIKE!!!
OR TAKE THE BUS!
***Don’t park on Sanborn Unless you want a ticket.***
***Read the signs before you park.***
***Please don't lock your bike up to the neighbors fence***
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=309582610223&ref=mf
urbanpedal responding to a
comment by toweliesbong
11.2.09 - 10:26 am
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Why do *you* find that offensive? Or are you offended on someone else behalf? I frankly find Marino's sarcasm hilarious but it may be a maturity factor or a life experience factor...
TheJen responding to a
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11.2.09 - 10:39 am
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No. Its the " you derseve it part" that pisses me off! Who the fuck deserves to get maced and run over just for riding ur bike in the streets? He inserted what u say was sarcasm in a thread that did not require his comment.
Maturity factor? Or a life experience factor? Wtf. Get off ur high horse lady. If poking fun and making jokes is being mature in ur eyez,, then you must be crossed eyed. And if ur actually are crossed eyed. I'm sorry for my comment before hand. I don't know who u are. No offense seriuosly....
Debut213 responding to a
comment by TheJen
11.2.09 - 10:53 am
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Man, just look at all the drama that could have been prevented if someone had run a cable through his wheelset before leaving his bike unattended.
JB11.2.09 - 10:55 am
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I agree that no one likely deserved to be maced...you're confusing topics/complaints...but that's ok...I'm not cross eyed nor do I ride horses. There's a LOT of immaturity on these forums as the average rider is closer to my daughter's age than my own...I was strictly pointing out the black drag queen aspect of the comment...
TheJen responding to a
comment by Debut213
11.2.09 - 10:57 am
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Imagine what it would be like if people stopped stealing...
TheJen responding to a
comment by JB
11.2.09 - 10:57 am
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edit: I meant to say *I* am confusing points...No one deserved to be maced...I'm sure. As well no one deserves to have their things stolen. No excuses.
TheJen11.2.09 - 11:02 am
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Imagine what it would be like if people had as much passion for having a fun time on 12/2/09.
http://midnightridazz.com/forums.php?topicId=12580&pgnum=1
barleye11.2.09 - 11:03 am
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ahahaha.... any time is a good time to plug your ride... huh? hahaha
snowcone responding to a
comment by barleye
11.2.09 - 11:04 am
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you might have missed his gem response to Marino in that thread...
Trenway was was more perceptive than the Mom rida... they (rightly) jumped all over it.
I still dont get the Mom Ridaz thing...
You ask them, why do you call it Mom Ridaz? Doesn't that appear derogatory? Is that doing MR any favors?
their response: no, no, no, its an inside joke.
Weird because it really seems like its a reference to fucking moms, since the members always refer to moms sucking, how they fuck everyone's moms, how moms are x, y, z...., they drink beer while pregnant, or like to put weed leaves on their nipples... its all so rooted in reality... and in just seems like the inside joke is an excuse to say: your mom. In fact, i never see any girl's on their gallery that reflect the girl's they like to post about their rides.... really weird.
In fact, I would respect the group more if they actually we're a bunch of M.I.L.F. Hunters... but they are not, which makes it all the more...
And yet, a crew with the easiest to name to get wrong (and yet apparently misunderstood)... offers the world (as RB would say) the idea that we have a disrespectful view of mothers, though we care about Black people.
Kanye West would at least be half pleased.
This might piss them off... but hopefully they'll understand that it's not talking shit... its basically... there has to be consistency, or its hard to be taken serious.... as Trenway pointed on that thread.
Hence... rehashing Marino's quote... draws more attention to their faults... even though Marino's quote wasnt even offensive... at least from what I could tell... unless he really meant all black people with mace are drag queens... I dont think that was his point.
md2 responding to a
comment by TheJen
11.2.09 - 11:06 am
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I walked, many people drove, that makes it ride? Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
toweliesbong responding to a
comment by urbanpedal
11.2.09 - 11:07 am
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We all rode bikes there, per the FB invitation, so it was a ride to us.
I don't like to assume someone has a learning disability, and you shouldn't either.
urbanpedal responding to a
comment by toweliesbong
11.2.09 - 11:17 am
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I was without bike. someone gave me a ride to the party in a car. I took the bus home.
I don't like to assume someone rides a bike, and you shouldn't, either.
spiraldemon responding to a
comment by urbanpedal
11.2.09 - 11:21 am
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Meh, you are trying way to hard....
Debut213 responding to a
comment by md2
11.2.09 - 11:24 am
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"We all rode bikes there" We all did? So because some people rode to the party from various parts of the city that makes it a ride? Whoa, that's a rad concept!
toweliesbong responding to a
comment by urbanpedal
11.2.09 - 11:27 am
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"If poking fun and making jokes is being mature in ur eyez,, then you must be crossed eyed."
So much for mom jokes.
md2 responding to a
comment by Debut213
11.2.09 - 11:27 am
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i drove my car to the tandem ride with no name... does that mean it wasn't a ride?
snowcone11.2.09 - 11:34 am
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Did you ride your bike on the ride? Don't be a dumbass. Mode of transportation to a party means nothing.
toweliesbong responding to a
comment by snowcone
11.2.09 - 11:37 am
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nope... i drove my car to a stop at pan pacific and hung out with the ride until they left, and then i drove home.
snowcone responding to a
comment by toweliesbong
11.2.09 - 11:38 am
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if someone left their car unlocked at the party and someone stole their ipod or gps from their car would we be having the same discussion? no
as puck killer said.. and as USER1!!! said...
if everyone took proper precautions and locked up one's bike... there would be no need for the hundreds of threads about people stealing unsecured bikes!
snowcone11.2.09 - 11:39 am
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marino's wheel obviously got stolen at a party, not on a bike ride.
spiraldemon responding to a
comment by snowcone
11.2.09 - 11:41 am
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It was a ride...for those who rode bikes on the ride. This is the strangest argument over one small point ever! AgLago in itself was not a ride...a house party. Some rode, walked or drove a car. Just because some showed *after* an organized ride does not make the party itself a ride or even part of a ride unless the hostess posted such. As far as I can tell she did not.
The point we should be discussing is why wont people stop stealing from one another...no excuses. Stealing is wrong. Period
TheJen responding to a
comment by snowcone
11.2.09 - 11:42 am
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what does it matter where it was stolen? i really don't understand the relevance of it being a ride or a party
when you go to the store... do you lock your bike?
how many people have had their bike or wheel stolen while it was ulocked properly?
snowcone responding to a
comment by spiraldemon
11.2.09 - 11:43 am
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IMO the relevance is being anywhere with a group...some say a "community" of like minded people who love to ride bikes...your shit should be safe.
TheJen responding to a
comment by snowcone
11.2.09 - 11:45 am
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Weird because it really seems like its a reference to fucking moms, since the members always refer to moms sucking, how they fuck everyone's moms, how moms are x, y, z...., they drink beer while pregnant, or like to put weed leaves on their nipples... its all so rooted in reality... and in just seems like the inside joke is an excuse to say: your mom.
I sure would like to know what the inside joke is. Do I have to become a member to get the inside joke? Or can you guys just tell us now?
I wouldn't mind knowing the inside joke so I can see for myself if you're being respectful to the mothers out there. Please don't respond with a, "if I had to explain, you wouldn't understand", response either.
User1 responding to a
comment by md2
11.2.09 - 11:46 am
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you're making it an argument. I'm simply stating what happened and where it happened. I'm not arguing anything other than the theft didn't happen during a ride.
spiraldemon responding to a
comment by snowcone
11.2.09 - 11:46 am
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some would call the united states a large community of like minded people who love... umm freedom
why do we have border patrol, why do we have locks on our doors? why do we lock our cars? i don't get it... why does security exist? we are all humans who want to live!
snowcone responding to a
comment by TheJen
11.2.09 - 11:47 am
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Unfortunately the freedom point is about where the like mindedness ends...
TheJen responding to a
comment by snowcone
11.2.09 - 11:49 am
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the attitude you guys have toward people who fit your racial profile can sense your hostility toward them.
I just let this comment go when I first saw it. I've said shit that doesn't make any sense and just figured this was the same thing, but since it's been commented numerous times above, what the hell are you talking about?
User1 responding to a
comment by snowcone
11.2.09 - 11:49 am
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if you really want me to answer... we can talk next time i see you
snowcone responding to a
comment by User1
11.2.09 - 11:51 am
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while thejen contemplates life's greatest mystery: why people steal
the rest of us can remember to lock up our bikes! moving on...
snowcone11.2.09 - 11:52 am
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That's a pretty BS answer for a forum post...
TheJen responding to a
comment by snowcone
11.2.09 - 11:53 am
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Freedom implies we all have respect for that freedom. which is not the case. Most people talk about freedom really mean free to do what they want. I call it being selfish. People steal because they have no respect. Even ridazz steal. We can say we all respect the community, but at the end of the day it is self interest most people choose. I read a thread where people were going to Sneak in to a concert/party. That is stealing too.
Foldie responding to a
comment by TheJen
11.2.09 - 11:54 am
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I saw these two tagging the parking blocks from across the parking lot. By the time I was in position for a pic, they were finished. Trust me, I would have gotten an interview will they were doing it if I could.
User1 responding to a
comment by sgrant
11.2.09 - 11:55 am
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Don't bring people you don't know to parties. Especially goofy gangster entry level thieves.
Graham11.2.09 - 11:56 am
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I'm a human that wants to live without fear of having shit stolen from me or being killed. I never used to lock my car or house, why do I have to now? Because of lameass apologists for the criminals who continually say is it's the victim's fault and think it's ok to steal shit just because it's not locked down. Thieves are the scum of the earth.
toweliesbong responding to a
comment by snowcone
11.2.09 - 11:56 am
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I can't disagree with that Foldie...one of the several reasons I am extremely selective about what rides I attend and who I ride with.
TheJen responding to a
comment by Foldie
11.2.09 - 11:56 am
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Knowing or acknowledging why does not excuse the stealing. I am not contemplating why...I would like people to contemplate why they shouldn't steal.
TheJen responding to a
comment by snowcone
11.2.09 - 11:58 am
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Yep, when it comes to petty crimes like this it's all about a lack of respect.
toweliesbong responding to a
comment by TheJen
11.2.09 - 11:59 am
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Thievery tends to start at an early age.
If most parents grew a set and began to inflict the fear of the "belt" into their seedlings, then we could see theft numbers drop somewhat.
Other than that, riding your bike seems to be turning into a bit of "cutthroat-world", but then again what isn't these days.
Lock it up, hide it, take it with you, immobilize it, anything to give the legion of thieves some high blood pressure numbers.
bentstrider responding to a
comment by Foldie
11.2.09 - 12:01 pm
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213 bike polo every thursday. washington and main 7pm.
barleye11.2.09 - 12:06 pm
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Why do you even post such a comment on the boards if you're not going to explain it? You're doing everyone a disservice. Isn't that just like the "inside joke" excuse you guys provide?
User1 responding to a
comment by snowcone
11.2.09 - 12:07 pm
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So now it's acceptable to advertise your rides on different threads? I just want to be clear with this before following through.
Please inform.
User1 responding to a
comment by barleye
11.2.09 - 12:09 pm
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The only thing that has effected crime rates is legalized abortion according to the authors of Freakanomics Highly recommended reading...
TheJen responding to a
comment by bentstrider
11.2.09 - 12:09 pm
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cant wait til we legalize marijuana.
And legalize (?) gay marriage...
md2 responding to a
comment by TheJen
11.2.09 - 12:14 pm
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All the ridazz there weren't expecting total douchebag strangers showing up. I locked my bike, but I didn't take the front wheel off or my lights off. Why? Cause past experience showed everyone was chilled there. I did take the precaution of parking where I could clearly see my bike though. It was just unfortunate that it was Marino that got hit.
User1 responding to a
comment by TheJen
11.2.09 - 12:19 pm
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Let us not forget high divorce rates.
If a kid's going to be raised and reared right, it's got to be two adult parents.
Not one jerkwad leaving the single mother to raise 4 or 5, with the oldest pressed into defacto father duty.
Only reason I say this is because all the people I know with a good education and/or job came from families where the parents were together for quite awhile.
All the "down'n'outs" I've had the pleasure to chat with all seemed to come from a single-parent household.
There wouldn't be as many bastard sons/daughters if the parents themselves just grew up and took reigns of the creation they brought into this world.
bentstrider responding to a
comment by TheJen
11.2.09 - 12:19 pm
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wow....
you probably need to re-think that one.
Wasnt that girl who was kidnapped for 11 years... abducted by a married couple? Sorry, one extreme example.
I have more...
md2 responding to a
comment by bentstrider
11.2.09 - 12:21 pm
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I don't buy nor endorse the victim of my upbringing mentality. I find divorce a brilliant thing and believe it should be easier to do so. Instant divorce and forced engagement periods. It should be harder to get married then it is to get a sex change. Then again no one needs to be legally married to reproduce. Only personal responsibility and education can reduce out of wedlock births. (personally despise the "bastard" term as the child is never at fault) Being a single parent myself I don't find that two adults in the home is really the key to success as a strong parent (of either gender) with a community of support. It's all about creating the best life for yourself and those you bring into your life as possible. But the desire to do so must be there...many people lack the desire to rise above so to speak.
TheJen responding to a
comment by bentstrider
11.2.09 - 12:24 pm
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right on Jen...
Its so misguided that kids are better off watching their parents argue everyday... rather then having them split and give the child some peace. Why the fuck do people think its in the childs interest to keep torturing each other.
md2 responding to a
comment by TheJen
11.2.09 - 12:30 pm
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Well I guess it's settled.
Those that are born with less(materialistic or otherwise) will ultimately have to fight harder for that piece of the pie.
bentstrider responding to a
comment by TheJen
11.2.09 - 12:33 pm
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I always assumed those two were nutcakes from the get-go.
bentstrider responding to a
comment by md2
11.2.09 - 12:35 pm
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Take comfort that the pie exists and that those that strive for it can have it. I've put myself through college, culinary and massage school. Me...whose parents saved not 1 cent for my education.
Also take comfort in the fact that those given much are far less grateful and much more selfish and self centered...and certainly have their own issues with "success" (as that is something one should quantify for themselves)...take a look around
TheJen responding to a
comment by bentstrider
11.2.09 - 12:36 pm
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keep the pie....
Im gonna eat cake.
md2 responding to a
comment by TheJen
11.2.09 - 12:41 pm
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Well, despite my whining about that other topic, I've decided it's better to wait things out and see what happens.
I guess it's a just a reactionary measure to everyone else(@ home) getting on me about why I'm not working on a degree right now, since the other thing is on ice at the moment.
To me, time is an infinite resource, I have no one to support but myself, so I really shouldn't be sweating things as much.
bentstrider responding to a
comment by TheJen
11.2.09 - 12:43 pm
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Mmmpie...Sometimes you just have to have pie...
TheJen responding to a
comment by Joe Borfo
11.2.09 - 12:45 pm
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Do you support yourself? Trust me time passes. Do you live on your own and pay all your own bills? Time is passing by as we speak. (and no you don't have to reply publicly to my inquiry)
TheJen responding to a
comment by bentstrider
11.2.09 - 12:46 pm
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Lets just say I've decided to start living every day like it's a normal day.
bentstrider responding to a
comment by TheJen
11.2.09 - 12:54 pm
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she gave her bike to a total fucking stranger. yes, i blame the 'victim', um, i mean idiot in this case. sheesh. give credit where it's due.
eric responding to a
comment by toweliesbong
11.5.09 - 11:38 am
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and if i said lemon pie it would be aginst asians right.people have racist minds.but really,i wasnt trying to be racist.sorry to offend peps.
louisiana responding to a
comment by marino
11.5.09 - 12:25 pm
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louisiana responding to a
comment by coldcut
11.5.09 - 12:59 pm
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Did he say he was going to steal it or watch it?
Why are you fucking idiots so accepting when it comes to getting ripped off? Fuck that. It's wrong whether she gave the bike to him voluntarily or he took at gun point. It's theft either way. Thieves are scum. Stop apologizing for the criminals.
toweliesbong responding to a
comment by eric
11.5.09 - 2:19 pm
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robbery involves violence or the threat of violence, theft does not.
santa needs a drink!
spiraldemon responding to a
comment by toweliesbong
11.5.09 - 2:27 pm
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Crazy non-sequitur! Who's talking about robbery?
toweliesbong responding to a
comment by spiraldemon
11.5.09 - 3:00 pm
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"It's wrong whether she gave the bike to him voluntarily or he took at gun point. It's theft either way."
toweliesbong
responding to a comment by eric
11.5.09 - 2:19 pm
But, it's not theft either way.
spiraldemon responding to a
comment by toweliesbong
11.5.09 - 3:17 pm
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"Theft is the illegal taking of another person's property without that person's freely-given consent. "
Just because she voluntarily gave her bike to some dude to watch doesn't mean she gave her consent to him to steal it.
And I still don't get what any of this has to do with robbery?
GIVE ME ALL YOUR MONEY MOTHERFUCKER!!! And when are you bringing me lunch today? It's getting late!
toweliesbong responding to a
comment by spiraldemon
11.5.09 - 3:25 pm
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of course you don't get it, you're a towel's bong!
whatever, forget it! I'm ending our facebook relationship!!!
spiraldemon responding to a
comment by toweliesbong
11.5.09 - 3:33 pm
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