Hit n run
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Chichi at 09.18.09 - 9:56 am
Last night at about 9:15 I was riding my fix down crenshaw
And 116th when I was rammed by a black mercedez .I was
the hood ornament for a good 5 seconds .when I realized what
Happened I was picking myself of the dirty crenshaw pavement
With my arm all scrpped and completly left in shock.the witness was
In ah yes in ah he saw me get of the floor and he was like dude .
That dude I can't even bean to tell you .He said the car wash even
In my lane he came toward the far rightlane as he then rammed
me off the street and ended up on he's hood at that point I saw life
Flash before my very eyes. Waited for the cops for about 30 min
Butt I was left for dead. Am okay butt my waist is jacked .Am gonna
Go see a doc later ...
Just wanted to let fellow riders to be aware cars are coffins ...
LA. Drivers are reckless i've road fix I. Oakland and Frisco for over ten
years and gotten doored .side swipped .Butt I never road as hood
Ornament of a fuckin mercedez .
Stay up and keep riding ....
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you get their license plate?
66609.18.09 - 10:13 am
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damn that's some messed up stuff, i'm so sorry =(
natefrogg09.18.09 - 11:27 am
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If nothing else this forum attracts the brightest of our youth.
thedoad09.18.09 - 11:40 am
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Man, you guys are fucking ruthless! The guy got hit by a car, and all you Nazis can do is pick apart his grammer/literacy? You guys fucking suck.
Chichi, I hope you're OK. Did you see a doctor? Do you have more information on the car. Post whatever you can here, and maybe put up some hit & run signs, with the cars description in the area you got hit.
That shit's NOT OK.
the reverend dak09.18.09 - 11:41 am
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Chichi gets hit by a car. He makes a thread post to tell us about it. He almost gets killed. Nevertheless, we make fun of his grammar and shit because we're so fucking cool. Same exact thing happened to Roadblock, and it's a different story about our reaction. That sucks.
Chichi, I'm glad you are alive. I hate those goddamn Mercedes drivers. They are the epitome of douchebags. This fucking town is really going to shit. I hope you have health insurance.
I'm sure somebody asked the question, but did you get the license plate #? Were there any witnesses? Did you report it to the police?
This is something we all have to remember to do the best that we can. Get the license plate number!
Joe Borfo09.18.09 - 11:47 am
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+1 @rev dak
+1 @joe borfo.
what is the rest of your guys' problems? The dude could have died.
Ride on Chichi.
la duderina09.18.09 - 11:52 am
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has nothing to do with ruthlessness...
theres not much difference between saying, but only has one "t"...
opposed to:
"hey, i hope you're okay"
Ive been hit by cars, had family in hit and runs... but I dont know if this ONLY has to be about showing sympathy... as cyclist, of course we care, but what can anyone really do, but wait until he posts again and says:
"whoa, that was crazy... Im gotta buy a helmet, does anyone have any recommendations?"
or
"hey thanks everyone for the posts, sorry about the grammar, i was hurting... hey, i can see why you guys thought my post was funny because of all the grammar shit... what an experience"
md209.18.09 - 11:55 am
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I can't believe that shit!
I'm concerned about this forum. Does it consist of people who are judgmental because someone doesn't write very well, and would rather mock them than consider what the fuck the person is trying to express? I can't believe the responses on this thread. The guy got hit by a car and left for dead! ...
If this is the epitome of this forum, then I'm out.
Joe Borfo responding to a
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09.18.09 - 11:57 am
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TROLLS DONT KNOW WHEN TO BE FUNNY AND WHEN TO BE SERIOUS.
Sorry for the trolls ChiChi. Normally, compassionate thinking human beings have empathy for others who get hurt erspecially something as fucked up as a hit and run. I hope these trolls don't ever have to go through what we have gone through. I COMPLETELY understand your situation. You were hit and you are upset and shocked. I went through this about 4 months ago when I got hit from behind.
What you NEED to do RIGHT NOW:
CALL A LAWYER
I would recommend calling Thomas Forsythe he specializes in bicycle related cases.
626-240-4633
YOU MUST CALL IMMEDIATELY as time is of the essence. There is likely damage to the suspect's car. That means the suspect RIGHT NOW is getting his/her car repaired. The way I found my suspect's car was that I called area body shops pretending to be the owner of the car and asked if "my car" was ready. I was lucky. There is an angel on these boards who was able to run the plates that I was lucky enough to be conscious to get while lieing on the pavement left for dead by the perpetrator.
If you got any of the plate. POST IT. There is an angel on this site that could potentially help get this scumbag.
Once again. I apologize for the trolls. They've obviously never gone through this before so just ignore them.
Also, thankyou for reporting this incident. I am putting together an article on hit and runs in Los Angeles and the law. We need every incident reported.
if you need ANYTHING. my email is roadblock AT midnightridazz dot com
Roadblock09.18.09 - 11:58 am
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Dude, I know you are all smart and educated and shit. But uh... oh nevermind.
Joe Borfo responding to a
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09.18.09 - 12:00 pm
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I still can't fathom how many times I've read a post about someone getting hit/run by a luxury car by what seems to be a driver who is out of their mind. I also am extremely careful when there is no one or anything around.
I keep thinking of a way to tag a car or something that hits/runs, but I'm empty for words/ideas... hard to do that when yer maybe dead
hitsthepoles_ow09.18.09 - 12:00 pm
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I think chi chi is a she. I just txt'd you to make sure. I hope you're okay.
mattspeed09.18.09 - 12:02 pm
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its not judgmental...
Look, if its in bad taste, then thats fine... Ill agree with all of you...
Doesnt matter, what matters is whether he is okay and a driver reconciles the situation... all of which my well wishes can not help manifest...
md2 responding to a
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09.18.09 - 12:02 pm
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I don't know man, I just htink something more constructive can come out of this. I don't know yours or the other guys's relationship with Chichi, so it might be all fun and games between you all. But from my perspective, you're all making light of what happened to the guy. I think that sucks. But do what you want, I really don't care. As long as we get these guys, the fuckers that attack ridazz (deliberately or accidental, doesn't matter), I'll be happy.
I don't think a Hit & Run is something to joke about, and the words that come from my mouth are going to reflect that. That's all.
the reverend dak responding to a
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09.18.09 - 12:06 pm
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Chichi,
sorry for joking about your post...
Honestly, ive been hit quite a few times; its scary and shit when it happens... I have friends and relative get hit by cars too... Hit and Runs are not a joke...
I'd like to say there is a difference between joking about you getting hit, and joking about your grammar/ how you expressed yourself.
The two are not the same, and I hope you can see that, though its easy to understand why my post could be taken as insensitive and the like. So for that, i apologize... I like to joke around... and its not the first time Ive taken joking too far... so get well soon, and hopefully you get on your bike soon.
Again... Im pretty much an idiot at times, so my apologizes...
md2 responding to a
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09.18.09 - 12:09 pm
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This is the main reason I created an alias on the boards. It seems when we know who the person being hurt is we respond and reply to their post(s) in a completely different manner. Needless to say, this shouldnt be the case. A person got injured and it might very well have been any one of us. Let's stop the hipocrisy amongst our own and then maybe we can take on the cars of the world as a united front.
July responding to a
comment by Joe Borfo
09.18.09 - 12:14 pm
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Thanks for saying that. But you are not the only one.
Moving on.
Joe Borfo responding to a
comment by md2
09.18.09 - 12:19 pm
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Also wanted to mention, I personally, choose to ride the sidewalk late at nights when there's hardly anyone around, pedestrian and vehicle drivers, as my chances for a hit and run are greatly diminished. That's just me and I know some of us feel entitled to the street. It's just another option for when you're going home with very few other live bodies around.
July09.18.09 - 12:20 pm
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The point is that people have a place to go to communicate with the community and at least get some advice or a fucking sympathetic ear and not get judged on some petty bullshit about grammar but some inconsiderate troll. you can get that on bikeforums but Midnight Ridazz is about helping our brothers and sisters out there on the streets.
I hope you never get hit and run on it's NO FUCKING JOKE. everyday afterwards your riding will NEVER be the same. You will find yourself having flashbacks every other fucking time you hear a car coming up from behind.
ChiChi.... once again. people on this board do NOT always represent the best of our community. but others on here do. Most of the community is here for you.
CALL THE LAWYER and see what he has to say.... You never know.
Roadblock responding to a
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09.18.09 - 12:20 pm
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ride on ride on just read that.... MOVING ON.
PEOPLE OUT THERE..
DO WHATEVER YOU CAN TO GET THE PLATES. TEXT IT TO YOURSELF< TWITTER IT WRITE IT IN BLOOD ON THE CONCRETE. DO WHAT YOU CAN DO TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN REMEMBER THE PLATE. THIS IS ALL WE HAVE.
Roadblock responding to a
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09.18.09 - 12:23 pm
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See? This shit absolutely needs to stop. Driving is not a fucking video game where u get points for doing stupid shit.
profoscurity09.18.09 - 12:27 pm
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That sucks that we'd have to resort to sidewalk riding, but I understand you.
It sounds like Chichi was in the right hand lane. Maybe she/he wasn't lit up enough? Either way, it seems like this type of incident happens a lot when a car quickly merges to go right.
When coming up at multi laned intersections, I straddle the line on the left side of the right lane so impatient and entitled douchebags can pass by to turn right. I do this even if I am going to make a right turn because I want to be away from the inside curb where the driver might not see me and t-bone me.
Whatever happened, I wish ChiChi would respond to wether the license plate or witness info was given to the cops. Help all of us, Chichi, by pursuing this though. Roadblock can help you too.
Joe Borfo responding to a
comment by July
09.18.09 - 12:28 pm
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@ Roadblock:
This license plate issue needs to be like rule number 2, rule 1 being riding with lights and helmet at night.
profoscurity09.18.09 - 12:29 pm
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Since when did we follow the rules? It's a good suggestion though.
Carrying a sharpie is my suggestion. I've been able to get plates written on my arm fast in situations.
Joe Borfo responding to a
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09.18.09 - 12:32 pm
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Waited for the cops for about 30 min but I was left for dead.
So the cops never came?
la duderina09.18.09 - 12:33 pm
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Roadblock,
Im not gonna argue too much about it... you made your point, but you're trying to make it into more than it is.
Yes, a person got hit and posted about it, and a few people joked about his/her POST. Its not judgmental, its not ruthless, its not mean-spirited.
Did I choose bad timing to joke about it? yes.
Should i have ever joked about the post? maybe not.
IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE INCIDENT. Why are you trying to elevate to that? Ive posted a few times already trying to clear that up, and I agree, its my fault for having to try to clear things up.
But its a mistake to equate the post to something like witnessing the incident and laughing as i walk by. And trust me on this: I GET YOUR POINT. Ive been hit by cars... I had a hit and run take place in front of me, and family member was the victim. "THAT" is not funny.
When my relative was acting weird after the incident -- we still laugh about it, because it was funny to see him tripping out (after the fact). There are parts you move on from and I understand that...
I apologized, but I will say this was not what you are making it to be.
md2 responding to a
comment by Roadblock
09.18.09 - 12:36 pm
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sorry... moving on.
md2 responding to a
comment by Roadblock
09.18.09 - 12:37 pm
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I have a feeling chichi might have given up on pursuing it. As bad as it sounds, it may be futile.
Joe Borfo responding to a
comment by la duderina
09.18.09 - 12:38 pm
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of course... always ride as safe as possible, use a minewt night rider or equivalent brightness front light on FLASH mode in the DAY and NIGHT. Use the Planet bike superflash rear light on flash mode DAY and NIGHT. wear a helmet.
unfortunately all these safety techniques I was engaged in did not stop a drunk fucking driver from running me down in the street and leaving me for dead. SO.... in the event that you get hit:
FOCUS IMMEDIATELY ON THE PLATES and DRIVER DESCRIPTION
WRITE THE PLATE DOWN in any way shape or form that you can. REPEAT OUT LOUD THE PLATE NUMBER OVER AND OVER UNTIL YOU ARE ABLE TO SAFELY WRITE IT DOWN TWEET IT TEXT IT BLEED IT. YELL THE PLATE LOUD ENOUGH FOR THE DRIVER TO HEAR.
CALL 911
DO NOT MOVE IF POSSIBLE. YOU MAY HAVE A SPINAL INJURY. MAKE SURE YOU ARE SAFE FROM OTHER CARS RUNNING YOU OVER IN THE ROAD.
CALL A LAWYER
Roadblock responding to a
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09.18.09 - 12:39 pm
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It just sucks, if it had been paris hilton hit on the corner of oh idk some place in WeHo, the driver would probably be in jail by now, know what I'm sayin'?
la duderina responding to a
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09.18.09 - 12:45 pm
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for a change, i would like to be in the right of way in an accident. so i dont have to hit and run.
and apologies for my trolling, i never read the full post. just the last post posted.
_iJunes responding to a
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09.18.09 - 12:46 pm
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Hit & RUNS involving car & bike will not change.
They occur at an alarming rate with vehicles, and its one of the strangest facts about our world.
If planes were crashing into each other at the same rate, they airline industry would be put on hold. Trains? Boats? the same...
Why not cars? With all the car-related deaths, why doesnt the government halt all car use until shit gets straight??? We know why...
Truth is bicyclist will be just as vulnerable (if not more) to these incidents as other drivers are (let alone pedestrians too).
Enforcing the law doesnt seem to curb anything since it still happens outside of bike world. Cyclist/ Pedestrians need their city to be shaped around the pedestrian and not cars... until then... all else seems futile (honestly)... thats why I hope to encourage people to think about bike only streets, and such...
Cars dont respect each other,,, they're not gonna respect a cyclist... City life is dangerous...
be careful
md2 responding to a
comment by Roadblock
09.18.09 - 12:50 pm
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Mocking grammar is rude given the situation and I am Glad you are ok. I clearly should have exercised more thought in the matter before casually tossing out a joke.
I have been hit Once on bike and twice as a pedestrian and it does suck. Luckily I was able to walk/ride away every time, but you never know when an accident is going to be worse. Always wear a helmet. I have forgotten my helmet places once or twice and I'm usually terrified the entire time I'm riding.
thedoad09.18.09 - 1:06 pm
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The main reason that hit and runs occur is because the driver is drunk or not of legal status/no insurance.
As I've learned from my own accident, drivers are actually motivated to run from the scene because they dont want to suffer the legal consequences of a drunk driving accident conviction. since I was not injured with broken bones, the detective on my case decided against the police report which stated "felony hit and run" and went with "misdemeanor hit and run." (I'm practically ready to throw my computer out the window in anger over this)
THE LAW IS WORKING AGAINST OUR SAFETY IN A HUGE WAY.
I wish some advocacy organization like MADD or the LACBC would pick this up and run with it. WE NEED THIS LAW CHANGED so that hit and run carries a STIFFER PENALTY than drunk driving accident. Until this law changes, we are in danger.
Roadblock responding to a
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09.18.09 - 1:08 pm
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Damn, it's crazy how often these incidents happen....every week...every few days now? It's sad.
I'm a lawyer and I'm more than happy to talk to anyone about their incident. (I hope that doesn't come off sounding too sleazy.)
Whether I like it or not, I've learned quite a few things just dealing with my fiancé's case and other friends.
djwheels @ rocketmail.com
DJwheels09.18.09 - 1:12 pm
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I stood and spoke right there with you at city hall man. I made my visitor's pass from that day into a spoke card I proudly ride around with. Our efforts will bear fruit one day hopefully soon.
profoscurity responding to a
comment by Roadblock
09.18.09 - 1:14 pm
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MADD or LACBC isn't going to pick it up and run with it unless we hand it off to them.
I think we're going to have to step up and pitch it to them and the CA legislature ourselves.
DJwheels responding to a
comment by Roadblock
09.18.09 - 1:19 pm
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Roadblock,
I get that... but dont you agree that its not drivers have this mindset: I can hit a cyclist and get a misdemeanor rather than felony. Of course people run because of the consequences... its really a bigger problem shaped around the bad choice to build cities around cars, and the amount/ ease of alcohol consumption.
I got hit about a month ago, by an SUV in Beverly Hills, but the lady was cool and i didnt get hurt too bad... I broke my fall pretty good. She was genuinely concerned and sorry... and I didnt want to see her punished for it.... So i just rode on... and was like "its cool"...
I guess I just say that to say.... sometimes you just have to let things go, and just say fuck it and move on. What do you really want to happen to this person? Have you been able to talk with the driver to express how you feel or anything of that sort?
I know I would want to kill driver of the BMW that slammed into my relative... til this day, I constantly wonder: does that guy still worry whether or not they might have killed someone? This is some real Woody Allen "Crimes and Misdemeanor" shit. What if it was a family member who just had a stupid bad day, but his/her life was pretty darn good regularly? Its weird, but I think about it all the time.
I dont know...
md2 responding to a
comment by Roadblock
09.18.09 - 1:21 pm
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I'm only talking about hit and runs. If the driver stops and you can come to an agreement then it's all good.
Drivers run becuase they are drunk and don't want to get stick around and be caught with a DUI because taking your chances and running is a far better option. That became obvious to me only after my hit ad run. I told a friend of mine about it and I was shocked to hear him say "oh that dude was drunk" it hadn't occurred to me until I heard him say that that the dude who hit me was drunk. And once DJWheels informed me that the law is based on the scale of the injury I was floored. Even though I left the scene on a stretcher in an ambulance, landed 30 feet in front of my smashed bicycle, this piece of shit is only getting a misdemeanor?! That ain't right.
Roadblock responding to a
comment by md2
09.18.09 - 1:43 pm
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have you met the guy though?
What do you want to happen to the person? At this point, i would just want some $$$$$$$$$$.
Unless the person is a threat to society (has a history), i think ensuring some kind of alcohol prevention, not allowed to drive (ever again), would be punishment, along with a fat paycheck to you...
other than that... jail is a really really really bad place... I volunteered in youth prisons years ago... and a few adult prisons... that place does not help curb any problems in society.
Im just asking... im not trying to say what you should or shouldnt do... like I said my feelings are like yours at times with incidents ive been in,
md2 responding to a
comment by Roadblock
09.18.09 - 1:48 pm
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I think Roadblock might have just thrown his computer out the window.
Joe Borfo responding to a
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09.18.09 - 1:56 pm
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Drunk drivers ARE a threat to society. Drunk drivers that mow down pedestrians and cyclists and leave them for dead, alone, in the middle of the street, to die ARE a threat to society.
I have not spoken or made contact with this driver but I know exactly who he is where he lives his property his history his blog his dealings in politics his conections to city hall his vacation home his facebook his blog..... TRUST me. My lawyer made contact and everything is in progress. It all started with getting the plate and DJwheels. It's going to end with me getting money from his insurance company.
I know jail sucks. It should. People should do what they can to avoid it. The fact that this guy had no priors doesn't make me care for him at all. Ok I accept that this scumbag won't go to jail on a first offense. But I want this guy to be charged with a felony because I want him to have a difficult time finding a job and voting. That will serve notice to other would be hit and run criminals.... As it is, the hit n run crowd is getting off easy.
SHiT NEEDS TO CHANGE
Roadblock responding to a
comment by md2
09.18.09 - 2:05 pm
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I said something wrong again, didnt I?
I should listen to my girl and just keep my mouth shut more often.
How do you stop internet at work addiction? Im going to ask my boss to fire me.
Logging off.
md2 responding to a
comment by Joe Borfo
09.18.09 - 2:05 pm
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Nah man you didn't say anything offensive. I get the concept of having compassion for people on the wrong side of the law and I know jail is no place to rehab people. Fine. On the other hand, consequences are a bitch. And it's not that this dude was forced to steal for lack of money. He made a conscious decision to harm my life. I have no sympathy. Sorry world. My hippie love side is not shining though on this one.
Roadblock responding to a
comment by md2
09.18.09 - 2:15 pm
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Ok f@@@k the way I put the message
Out just wanted to let other people that ride
Bikes to watch out were they ride day or night.
And no I didn't get the plates as the car
Jammed on the gas .The guy that told me it
was a black mercedez was standing there like
he just saw a ghost as I got up .He said
man are you alright I just thought you died
as I came up to the side walk for air I was in
Shock still am .My back is sore and my leg
is sore from the impact....
Chichi09.18.09 - 2:21 pm
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i hear you...
I guess i was more or less thinking along the lines of "change", and in my earlier posts (not too early - avoid those) ... I was talking about how the hit & run issues is nothing special to cyclist; it happens amongst drivers (as we all know), and to a high degree.
So, since it KEEPS occuring, it does not appear that our laws, consequences (the current situation) is working. I asked you about your incident because it seemed like you were talking about wanting change to occur, but it was centered (it seemed) around getting a harsher conviction.
Again, this hasnt seemed to be a deterrent for hit & runs, drinking and driving. In fact its almost paradoxical in the loose sense in which we talk about it.
1. The claim is: Drunk Drivers run, because they fear the consequences
2. We want to enforce consequences so they wont commit hit & runs
-- the two are not working together.
I wanted to highlight the issue of the insane and very saddening reality that society took in shaping land around automobiles. In conjunction with the ease and frequency of alcohol consumption in society,
Im partial to the latter. I love drinking.
there is this whole mixture of lives put together in society, where the driver, cyclist, pedestrian and alcoholic must meet. We need to work together, but clearly the amount of drivers and alcohol is not being dealt with adequately enough. Curbing situations where cars and cyclists/pedestrians HAVE TO interact, share roads is the path Im interested in.
Punishment isnt working... there has to be some real ways to curb drunk drivers... or changed the landscape in which we interact.
md2 responding to a
comment by Roadblock
09.18.09 - 2:29 pm
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Chichi do a google search for auto body shops in the area. Was it a blinded out Mercedes? Any idea of the year? If you spend 3 hours calling every body shop in LA it will be worth your time. Good luck.
In fact..... We got Strength in numbers ridazz. How about we all help out and make some calls to body shops. I bet we could find this motherfucker.
Roadblock responding to a
comment by Chichi
09.18.09 - 2:32 pm
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I bet if you look up the stats on drunk driving there are far fewer incidents today than when MADD started out decades ago.
Roadblock responding to a
comment by md2
09.18.09 - 2:51 pm
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i know i already got reprimanded for grammar check...
but you meant "loved", right?
md2 responding to a
comment by Joe Borfo
09.18.09 - 3:23 pm
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I am so sorry to hear about chichi's accident. My husband is a person injury accident lawyer and I work with him. We helped many bicycle accident victims. As follow Midnight ridazz, we want to help. You can call me at 323-782-8600 or email us at richarddhoffman@gmail.com
Tricia H responding to a
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09.18.09 - 5:44 pm
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Hope you get better Chichi. I am sorry you had to go through this.
Foldie09.18.09 - 5:50 pm
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Messed up story. Hope you're doing better Chichi.
I got a feeling that this rida could have used some better lights. Doesn't mean it wouldn't have happened, but you improve your chances of this not happening.
Really the only light out there, if you had to ride with one back light, is the Superflash by Planet Bike. So many ridazz out there are riding with a back light, but it's not bright enough. You want to ride with the best light out there. At $20, it's the cheapest insurance you can get.
User109.19.09 - 11:39 am
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