PEOPLE'S RIDE ON FIRST FRIDAY???
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barleye at 08.18.09 - 2:02 pm
I brought the idea up to SKD at the honeymoon ride about The People's Ride moving to first friday's and he said he'd pass it along to all the organizers to discuss.
The only first friday regular ride is SMCM and last friday is LACM.
LACM almost always loses a majority of its riders to the people's ride.
Yes, there can be more than 1 ride on a night ....but so many people (on lacm threads) don't like that LACM always seems to end or veer towards Vermont and Hollywood around 9:30 or so.
that's all...
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i never liked the people ride. some shit always goes down.
LACM use to ride all night. lets make that happen again.
funanu08.18.09 - 2:07 pm
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i think it sounds like a cool idea.
coldcut08.18.09 - 2:07 pm
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+1
BTW, who are all the organizers? I thought this was stuarts ride?
User1 responding to a
comment by funanu
08.18.09 - 2:14 pm
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yeah srsly who are the organizers? i always hear about different people leading the ride. or is it a group like that lame ass CoN?
funanu responding to a
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08.18.09 - 2:16 pm
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I know Droobie has led it, and I think I recall Chynna leading it last month. I think for the most part it's Stuart's ride but there are definitely others that take the reins and lead it some months.
barleye responding to a
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08.18.09 - 2:22 pm
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I am totally up for this idea.
I actually ride both rides... and have liked both to a certain extent.
In the end this might make each right that much more enjoyable from now on.
Jazzy Phat Nastee08.18.09 - 2:30 pm
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I don't see People's Ride listed yet for next Friday....It couldn't hurt to try it out on the First Friday of September...
Give LACM a chance to really do it's thing with no limits...
People's Ride organizers???? whatcha think?
barleye responding to a
comment by jonnyboy
08.20.09 - 9:18 am
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NOW it's listed....whoopeee!!
Hey People's Ride....thanks for keeping an open mind.
barleye08.20.09 - 10:44 am
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FUCKEN best idea I've read here in a long time. Let LACM have it's own nite and the People's ride can stand up on its own. BRAVO
tallcans4tallbikes08.20.09 - 10:48 am
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Good idea! As long as we are out riding and having a good time, we shouldn't need to go to 'another ride' that same evening. And the fact that LACM starts around 7:30p just gives us even more time on the bike.
However, i will say that we may want to have a place where those who can't ride so early can meet up with us so they can join in later on in the evening! And this location should probably be posted on the ride details so people can plan accordingly.
stevo408.20.09 - 11:36 am
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Wat da hell are you gettin all xcited about???? It's still listed as it's always been.
@tallcans4tallbikes
This idea has been floated out there ever since this lame ass ride came online. It's not a new idea.
@stevo4
7:30 early for a CM ride? baaahhahahahahahaaa.........
Hey I got an idea for the peeps that are coming later to the ride!! How bout they call someone up on the ride????? Yeah? This way we don't have to worry about their asses!!!
User1 responding to a
comment by barleye
08.20.09 - 11:54 am
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Hey old man....it was sarcasm...i know it's listed on the same day AGAIN....
To me it was a new idea...I've never seen it mentioned on these forums.
barleye responding to a
comment by User1
08.20.09 - 12:01 pm
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Ive seen you @ this ride many times user1. Why are you bashing on it now? Did Stuart hurt your feeling or something?
The peoples ride is cool. I wouldnt mind seeing it on its own friday....
Debut213 responding to a
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08.20.09 - 2:59 pm
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This is a good idea...I think...I can't make it to most of the rides because I get off from work at 9pm...That is the time when most of the rides start..we need more 10pm rides...
Dropkick_bruce08.20.09 - 3:04 pm
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Oh it was mentioned on these forums, cause I mentioned it! I always maintained it was a bad idea, and that's bad idea as in bad idea.
@Debut
Yeah I've been on it before, but how many times have you seen me finish it? I usually get discussed it and just call it a night. Last time I was on it, I saw a guy run into a park car TWICE! I've just really grown to hate this ride cause it takes away from what LACM could be. I seen what it does to the LACM, and it's not good.
User1 responding to a
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08.20.09 - 5:17 pm
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What's this thread about?... I'm not going to read it. But I will have something to say...
The only reason no one has started a ride on First Fridays, it because everyone is waiting for rideARC to start back up. That ride was the shit...
But whatever, it's blank now...
the reverend dak08.20.09 - 5:22 pm
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People should just Skip LACM alltogether and come to the peoples ride on last friday.
stillline08.20.09 - 5:25 pm
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Nah man, the opposite!
LACM is the original! You don't just cancel that shit! Plus I haven't been to a people ride that was better than the LACM before it.
Just Sayin'.
the reverend dak responding to a
comment by stillline
08.20.09 - 5:38 pm
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I SRSLY JUST LOLLED MY PANTS OFF.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
OHHHH MY GODDDD
LOLOLOLOLOLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
imachynna responding to a
comment by jonnyboy
08.20.09 - 6:21 pm
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OR... the People's Ride
organizers could skip LACM and stop leading it to the Rite Aid every month. Problem solved!
Watching CM end at The People's Ride every month is like watching a polar bear at the zoo, walking in circles, repeating the same routine over and over and over again, all day long. The first couple times, maybe it's a little entertaining and novel, but when the loop just keeps going and going, you realize that with each repetition the beast is dying inside.
Set the beast free!
nathansnider responding to a
comment by stillline
08.20.09 - 7:15 pm
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It'd be nice to hear from anyone that runs the people's ride...STUART?
The suggestion isn't from left field...it makes perfect sense..
Stuart? Does he post as "peoples ride" on here?
barleye responding to a
comment by nathansnider
08.20.09 - 10:42 pm
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"Does he post as "peoples ride" on here?"
Is that more sarcasm?
User1 responding to a
comment by barleye
08.20.09 - 11:44 pm
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I honestly don't know...i've never asked him...
barleye responding to a
comment by User1
08.21.09 - 7:15 am
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is the people's ride the cause for lacm being such a short ride?
the change of the day mean smcm to people's ride, where people from smcm go to the people ride?
mechazawa08.22.09 - 3:41 am
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so you guys all of this and then the video on lacm's post was actuall a peoples ride... crazy
Drooby42008.24.09 - 6:42 pm
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Yeah, The Peoples Ride is basically LACM just extended... for the purpose of people who can't make it at the first start because of work, I was once in that position. On the last one, when someone asked what ride is this, people an the ride would say, LACM, not the Peoples Ride, if anything it would just be better to just call the damn thing LACM II or something.... but whatever... it's just a name... and we know what it means so whatever
braydon responding to a
comment by Drooby420
08.24.09 - 7:33 pm
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That's strange, they seem like two distinctly different rides to me.
User1 responding to a
comment by braydon
08.24.09 - 8:14 pm
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this is the list of ridazz that posted their opinions on why It's a good idea to move the People's Ride on first friday instead of the last friday. Nobody posted any opposition to it nor has the person that posts it on the calendar made any comments. It's not my ride so I can't do anything about it except lobby for it to be changed.
Barleye
Funanu
Coldcut
Jazzy phat nastee
tallcan4tallbikes
stevo
debut213
dropkick bruce
reverend dak
nathansnider
braydon
maybe we can get some more discussion here about it????
barleye10.19.09 - 5:04 pm
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Uh, Thanks Barleye. :-) I approve of this message and the one above...
stevo410.19.09 - 5:20 pm
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Hey.
The F Ride is on the First Friday. So this is no longer a good idea.
braydon responding to a
comment by barleye
10.19.09 - 5:23 pm
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I forgot about the F-Ride. X-ray's a good guy and i don't think anyone wants to see his ride get bumped since it made a kick ass debut....well there you have it....LACM's a 2 hour ride...enjoy.
barleye responding to a
comment by braydon
10.19.09 - 5:34 pm
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People's Ride on a Saturday night? Just another thought...
barleye responding to a
comment by braydon
10.19.09 - 5:46 pm
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so i guess los angeles gets a shortened 2 hour critical mass once again...THANKS PEOPLE'S RIDE!!!!
how about having people's ride on saturday?
barleye11.23.09 - 12:34 pm
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i know its been said before but, i still think the best idea is to let the peoples ride meet up, and with some communication the rides could meet at some neutral spot. having to regroup at the peoples ride really just confines lacm to hollywood and downtown. it would be nice to make it all the way to the beach or east los or something.
buckchin11.23.09 - 12:50 pm
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Last Saturday of the month is SFV/Pedal Punx ride.
sgrant11.23.09 - 12:53 pm
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THE TRUTH IS, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THAT THE RIDE GOES TO THE PEOPLES RIDE, THEN TAKE YOUR SORRY ASS HOME.
AS SOMEONE SO ELOQUENTLY POSTED TO A YOUNG FEMALE ON THIS FORUM.
--" IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE MOM'S THEN DONT COME ON OUR RIDES"--
YOU SOUND LIKE A BUNCH OF PUSSYS.
IF YOU LET THEM GET IN THE FRONT, THEN GUESS WHERE WE GOING?
AFTER ALL THEY DO HAVE THEIR OWN SPECIAL WAY OF RIDING.
I USED TO GET IN FRONT AND WITH A LITTLE HELP, LEAD THE RIDE,
BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS LIKE "WHITCH WAY DO WE GO" SHIT.
FUCKING PUSSYS !!!
AND THEN SOMEBODY INVITED A 'HIPSTER' TO THE RIDE AND THATS ALL SHE WROTE.
AND I WAS THINKING: 'BUT DAM THEM FIXIE KIDS, ARE FAST.'
SO, WHAT TO DO? SO WHAT TO DO?
HMMM...... JUST GET STONED AND FOLLOW THE BLINKIES.
FUCK COMPLAINING, ENJOY THE RIDE.
eddieboyinla11.23.09 - 1:01 pm
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I CANT BELIEVE I TYPED THAT, YES I READ IT AGAIN.
LOL
eddieboyinla11.23.09 - 1:07 pm
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1) I heard the People's Ride was created for people who can't make it to LACM. Sounded like a good enough idea to me
2) I probably wouldn't go on LACM if it wasn't for the People's Ride. I usually get bored circa 6 PM and figure why not.
3) Both rides have douchebags on them. Actually, anytime such a large group gets together it seems like there are annoying people on them.
4) What's the issue with it ending at the People's Ride?
brittany11.23.09 - 1:15 pm
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Eddie I can't believe you used the word ELOQUENTLY.
sgrant responding to a
comment by eddieboyinla
11.23.09 - 1:17 pm
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I CANT BELIEVE I FOR GOT TO TYPE 'BITCH' AT THE END, LOL !!!TO
eddieboyinla11.23.09 - 1:20 pm
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I ACTUALLY TYPED ELOQUENTLY TWICE TODAY, WITH OUT USING THE SPELL CHECK FEATURE. DAM I NEED TO GET STONED,
MOM RIDAS HOOK ME UP !!!
eddieboyinla11.23.09 - 1:22 pm
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4) What's the issue with it ending at the People's Ride?
it confines lacm to one small area
buckchin responding to a
comment by brittany
11.23.09 - 1:26 pm
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I get how that could be annoying.
Yeah, I don't see why it HAS to end at the People's Ride. If it's convenient and in the area, why not.
Honestly I don't see many rides leaving the area anyway.
It'd be cool if it did tho.
brittany responding to a
comment by buckchin
11.23.09 - 1:28 pm
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Rather than moving the date of the peoples ride why not just move the start of the people's ride closer to Wilshire/Western? You can keep it the same day and time.... everyone gets back to the start.... and people still get to ride more. You still have access to the metro. Plenty of liqour stores around. I don't know... I'm just tossing it out there.
digablesoul11.23.09 - 2:05 pm
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first decent suggestion... i think everyone would like that
snowcone responding to a
comment by digablesoul
11.23.09 - 2:08 pm
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But that still limits it to one area and still puts a time constraint on LACM.
toweliesbong responding to a
comment by snowcone
11.23.09 - 2:10 pm
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hey thanx! but that still keeps it confined to the same area.
buckchin responding to a
comment by snowcone
11.23.09 - 2:11 pm
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you beat me to it. must type faster!
buckchin responding to a
comment by toweliesbong
11.23.09 - 2:13 pm
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nobody will fess up as to who runs the people's ride though..
barleye responding to a
comment by snowcone
11.23.09 - 2:13 pm
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yeah that is annoying. have you tried asking on their twitter?
buckchin responding to a
comment by barleye
11.23.09 - 2:16 pm
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A lot of people who do LACM are either first-timers or weaker bike riders, they are done after two hours. And if you take them out to Pasadena or Santa Monica, do you actually think they are going to make it back to the start point at Wilshire and Western?
Besides it's LA critical mass no Santa Monica or Venice Critical mass.
hockeyjockey11.23.09 - 2:16 pm
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what if they made the peoples ride bimonthly for a while. that way we could have one month with cm they way its meant to be, then the next have more of a hollywood cm where we end back at the peoples ride.
buckchin11.23.09 - 2:24 pm
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dudes... the people rub the peoples ride....
relax you guys
why dont you guys go to the ride and try to have a good time rather than whine about what day it is...
if you dont want to go to peoples ride, dont.
you ride a bike... ride somewhere else, im sure if you announced it before lacm went there people would go with you, and if they dont, so what, go have a good time
Drooby42011.23.09 - 2:41 pm
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barleye no offense but i aint even seen you on an lacm or peopls ride in months
Drooby42011.23.09 - 2:44 pm
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Anybody think to ask the 300 or 400 people that do these rides?
I do both LA CM and Peoples, and I never hear any complaints.
My girlfriends come on this ride and some of them bail out after LACM, because they can't ride anymore. Some of them do the peoples because they are having so much fun.
I mean if people are riding and they are having a good time, what's the problem?
sgrant11.23.09 - 2:51 pm
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+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
sgrant
Drooby42011.23.09 - 2:53 pm
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Peoples ride seems like a very communist idea.....
Foldie11.23.09 - 2:54 pm
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I haven't been on LACM in months for this very reason......the last one I did go on, I'll tell you what happened....we were going east on melrose around 9:15pm at Larchmont and I got to the front and called out a right turn...someone with a bullhorn whom i won't mention by name called out "NO...KEEP GOING STRAIGHT"...then it was guided left on normandie and went straight to the people's ride...Me and Harry knew what was happening so we just went and had beers outside a liquor store on western near wilshire.
it's like that every month....i'd go on lacm if it didn't end at 9:30.
I've only been on 1 people's ride. i think the first one...
barleye responding to a
comment by Drooby420
11.23.09 - 2:54 pm
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okay... so you won't go on it because people won't follow you?
snowcone responding to a
comment by barleye
11.23.09 - 2:57 pm
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so why not stop looking at it as seperate rides, peoples ride is a chance for more people to join up that were at work at 7:00 and couldnt make it.
why dont you go on a peoples ride a few times then start all this again.
and i ask one more time, whats the problem if every one is having f.u.n., thats what rides are for... no?
Drooby420 responding to a
comment by barleye
11.23.09 - 3:00 pm
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Peoples ride seems like a very communist idea.....
Foldie
11.23.09 - 5:54 pm
Well, when I did the People's ride... someone gave me a beer and smoked me out.
hockeyjockey
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11.23.09 - 3:06 pm
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there's another thread with a lot of people voicing their opinions with distinct reasoning why the people's ride should/could be on its own night...
too many riders just go with the flow while some have spoken up about a change.
why not try it for 1 month and see what "people" think? there's no big rides on saturday 11/28/09 that would conflict.
barleye responding to a
comment by Drooby420
11.23.09 - 3:09 pm
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How about part of the fun of the People's Ride is to contact someone on LACM and catch up and join itm wherever LACM is at the time? A rolling convergence is ALWAYS fun...but the People's Ride gets to hunt down and capture LACM (not LACM going to the People's Ride start).
Ms. Stephanie responding to a
comment by hockeyjockey
11.23.09 - 3:09 pm
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and i ask one more time, whats the problem if every one is having f.u.n., thats what rides are for... no?
barleye is not having fun. so that means everyone is not having fun. right?
buckchin responding to a
comment by Drooby420
11.23.09 - 3:12 pm
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400 people having a great time means nothing if barley is not happy... didn't you know?
snowcone11.23.09 - 3:15 pm
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how bout you guys come on these rides, pitch your ideas then, and stop hating and trying to change things you dont involve yourselves with. just for one month... try it
Drooby42011.23.09 - 3:15 pm
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So one person's fun, or five people's fun is more important than 300 people?
sgrant responding to a
comment by buckchin
11.23.09 - 3:15 pm
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hey... fuck off. now we're having fun...
barleye11.23.09 - 3:20 pm
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Can someone turn off the italics....It is if everyone is quoting themselves which is very narcissistic.
Foldie11.23.09 - 3:22 pm
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are you saying that if we did it barleys way that 300 people wouldnt have fun?
buckchin responding to a
comment by sgrant
11.23.09 - 3:25 pm
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nope... not at all barleye is a great guy and brings alot of great things to riding in general, but if it aint broke dont fix it, andi would never suggest changing the ride with no name.
Drooby42011.23.09 - 3:29 pm
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I used to LACM all the time until it got retarded. But like I said, I'm showing up on Friday.
And this is the idea I'm going to advocate, again. Take note, People's Ride organizers - make sure you have communication ability.
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How about part of the fun of the People's Ride is to contact someone on LACM and catch up and join it wherever LACM is at the time? A rolling convergence is ALWAYS fun...but the People's Ride gets to hunt down and capture LACM (not LACM going to the People's Ride start).
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A giant rolling convergence in front of some stupid mall or another would be awesome.
Ms. Stephanie responding to a
comment by buckchin
11.23.09 - 3:30 pm
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everything has room for improvement.
buckchin responding to a
comment by Drooby420
11.23.09 - 3:33 pm
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ain't nothing wrong with communists is there?
not everyone may know this but Jesus was a RAGING FLAMING communist
he passed out free booze free food and free healthcare... for FREE!
Roadblock responding to a
comment by Foldie
11.23.09 - 3:35 pm
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This whole thread seems more like an ego thing more than about the ride. I just come to enjoy the ride. I vote not to change it but that's me. I am only one in 300 to 400 riders. I think you should do the ride and do it a few times before making a judgment. I'd hate for the People's ride to go the way of Crank Mob.
sgrant11.23.09 - 3:38 pm
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SHUT THE FUCK UP BARLEYE, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IT IF EVERYBODY STARTED TALKING ABOUT YOUR FUCKED UP RIDE???
GO SUCK A MOM RIDAZ COCK, AND YOU BETTER SWALLOW IT ALL, AND NOT SPIT IT OUT LIKE YOU DID THE OTHER NIGHT IN THE ALLEY. BITCH !!!
eddieboyinla responding to a
comment by stillline
11.23.09 - 3:38 pm
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The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money to spend
-Margaret Thatcher
Foldie responding to a
comment by Roadblock
11.23.09 - 3:43 pm
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I rarely go on either of these rides but this discussion does seem to reveal a little hitch in CM's "leaderless" methodology.
Basically a small number of people can routinely direct the ride according to their whims.
I was on LACM when it got routed through the grove (back in the day when security had no way of knowing how to handle such a situation).
I remember Enci protesting as she rode with us that were were about to enter a pedestrian area and flood it with bikes and what sense did that make?
Her logic seemed perfect to me but had no effect on the lumbering mass. We rode with them right into the the grove forcing peds to the side, some with wonderment and some with annoyance as the plaza was briefly filled with bikes.
z---------------
My 2¢ is that perhaps somebody should start a new LACM on a day different than the people's ride. Perhaps even in a new location. LA is after all one of the largest metropolitan areas in the world.
The people who want the new LACM can have it. The people that like the way LACM works now can have that. And the people who want both can have both.
This of course comes with my bias that more smaller rides are better than fewer big rides as this tends to lessen impact and conflict with drivers. And i think the monkey wrenching attitudes and tactics that tended to dominate much of CMs first decade are a little outdated.
trickmilla11.23.09 - 3:45 pm
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ive been on both rides plenty of times. the thing i dislike most is that the same group of people end up dictating where the ride goes. i just dont like the fact that people who have 3 or 4 of their own rides a week are trying to control this ride. anyone should be able to go up front and call out a turn with out having someone with a mega phone saying dont follow him. CM is one of my favorite rides simply because it starts early enough that you can still do something else later.
buckchin responding to a
comment by sgrant
11.23.09 - 3:55 pm
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Both of these rides suck because of all the knuckle heads that go on them.
Their idea of 'fun' is a disillusion.
These rides aren't what they used to be and most of you guys don't realize that because you weren't around then. You simply don't 'get it'. But thats OK, at least you're trying to make it enjoyable as possible no matter how bad of a job you're doing. Keep trying.
Graham11.23.09 - 4:00 pm
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....i never talked shit about peoples ride itself. i just choose not to go on it. i've read about too much craziness and drunks on it..maybe i'm old and out of it..maybe not..
....i wouldn't post a large group ride 2 hours after another large ride...
....c.m. rides are the last friday of every month in 90+% of the cities around the world. THAT WOULD BE AN EGO THING IF IT WAS CHANGED.
....I'm gonna check out this next LACM and hopefully it can ride a long time...
t....his is just getting stupid now.
barleye11.23.09 - 4:01 pm
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"anyone should be able to go up front and call out a turn with out having someone with a mega phone saying dont follow him."
I wholeheartedly agree.
Anyways, all of this stuff aside, I think everyone should wear all black to LACM, in honor of Black Friday. A bunch of bike riders in black (read: black bloc) fucking with people's ability to shop on Black Friday would be very rad.
Ms. Stephanie responding to a
comment by Drooby420
11.23.09 - 4:07 pm
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actually your critique of CM and TPR would be a disillusion while their idea of "fun" as you see it would be a delusion.
but perhaps this is more of a discussion for spelling and grammar thread.
trickmilla responding to a
comment by Graham
11.23.09 - 4:12 pm
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ewww, you're quoting margaret thatcher. might as well quote hitler.
coldcut responding to a
comment by Foldie
11.23.09 - 4:15 pm
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When the Hollywood Ridazz used to occupy the same time slot and starting location, they would meet up with LACM later on when both had already been riding for a while. That made way more sense than the way that the People's Ride does things. I mean really, what is so hard about coordinating a meetup later in the evening?
A moment from October LACM:
[Pan Pacific Park. user snowcone has just introduced himself to user nathansnider; after the brief nice-to-meet-you exchange, lacking anything else to talk about, the conversation turns to bike rides]
snowcone: I didn't know you rode LACM.
nathansnider: I do it probably once every two or three months. I guess I miss the days when it was all about riding bikes. I'm not such a fan of the 40 minute liquor stops.
snowcone: But that's what the people want to do. You can't really control that. LA has its own thing going on.
nathansnider: Yeah. I guess it's become kind of expected at this point, huh? I just think it's kind of sad the way that all the big rides have adopted the same boring pattern. LACM used to be something special. Now it's just a prelude to the People's Ride.
snowcone: Do you ever do the People's Ride?
nathansnider: I have. It's usually not my thing.
snowcone: Too much of a Mom Ridaz ride?
nathansnider: Hell, LACM has basically become a Mom Ridazz ride at this point, hasn't it?
snowcone: No, we're just here to guide the ride and keep things organized. It's really the people that are leading. They decide where we go. We just try to make sure everybody's safe.
nathansnider: So you're like... facilitators, then? Shepherds of a sort?
snowcone: That's a good way to think of it.
[User1 arrives]
User1: Hey man, why can't we take this thing to Beverly Hills? I love it when we go there.
[boring discussion of route logistics; a couple different routes are proposed]
nathansnider: That's totally doable, right?
snowcone: Hold on. Let me ask Stuart.
[snowcone walks over to skd]
nathansnider: That's hilarious.
User1: Yeah, what do you think he's going to
say? The suspense is killing me, man.
[after about a minute of discussion with skd, snowcone returns]
snowcone: Sorry, we can't do it unless we have a specific route.
User1:
Dude. This is
Critical Mass!
snowcone: We need a specific route or we can't do it. Maybe next time you can plan a route and we can use it?
[end scene]
That's paraphrased from memory, obviously, that's the gist of it all. I don't mean to unfairly single out snowcone, but that's kind of a perfect representation of how LACM "works" these days.
nathansnider11.23.09 - 4:23 pm
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"When the Hollywood Ridazz used to occupy the same time slot and starting location, they would meet up with LACM later on when both had already been riding for a while."
User nathansnider is a smart guy.
toweliesbong11.23.09 - 4:28 pm
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Yeah, sorta like this really fantastic idea:
How about part of the fun of the People's Ride is to contact someone on LACM and catch up and join it wherever LACM is at the time? A rolling convergence is ALWAYS fun...but the People's Ride gets to hunt down and capture LACM (not LACM going to the People's Ride start).
Ms. Stephanie responding to a
comment by toweliesbong
11.23.09 - 4:31 pm
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The italics on your original post hurt my eyes too much so I didn't read it closely enough. heh
toweliesbong responding to a
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11.23.09 - 4:43 pm
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i really think this is the best idea. then CM doesnt have to stop to go back to TPR and the peoples ride can still exist on the same night. and they can meet up later in the night. I know i brought this up last time when barleye first started talking about this. and someone said they already tried it and it failed. I say why not keep trying. now to all the people against this idea would it be the bad to give it a try? the mom riders could really help out in this considering im sure some of you start at CM and others start at peoples ride.
buckchin responding to a
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11.23.09 - 5:41 pm
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what is said here is of little consequence
bring your ideas to the ride
snowcone11.23.09 - 5:53 pm
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am i the only person on here who thinks the way it is, is fine? please don't change it.
goosegoose11.23.09 - 5:57 pm
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@snowcone I am bringing my ideas to the ride, but I don't think what is said here is of little consequence because if the ride goes as I hope it goes, someone will have to have communication with the People's Ride in order to coordinate a convergence. Therefore, someone has to pay attention to what I'm saying here in order to plan ahead a bit.
Ms. Stephanie responding to a
comment by snowcone
11.23.09 - 5:57 pm
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+1 to what MsStephanie said. I like the hunting approach.
stevo4 responding to a
comment by Ms. Stephanie
11.23.09 - 6:00 pm
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I miss the the "old days" of getting there early and eating pho with stevo and danny zuko up the street on western...
barleye responding to a
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11.23.09 - 7:32 pm
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first of all, most of the people on here are the people determining what happens with the ride, so i do think it makes a difference. we're all on here trying to have an OPEN discussion about what the COMMUNITY of riders would like to do as a whole. even if you're the person that may have originally started a specific ride, once it becomes a public event, it's something that everyone who participates in has an equal say in.
secondly, i would personally love to be there for la critical mass, but i am still out of commission, so what your comment is implying is that while i'm temporarily out of commission, i no longer have the right to my opinion about something I actively took part in. and my earlier comment was directed at you guys more saying would it really be that bad to just give it a try. hopefully, you're not so close-minded that you're not willing to give another option a chance, right?
buckchin responding to a
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11.24.09 - 12:05 am
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i too have not been on lacm or the people's ride in forever. ima make it out to my first critical mass in months. let's hope it goes well!
coldcut11.24.09 - 1:34 am
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SO WHAT OF ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO BOTH RIDES?
Drooby42011.24.09 - 2:57 am
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It's obvious they're both gonna be on the same night for the foreseeable future......the point is...people DO want to do both rides but a few of us are just trying to emphasize that LACM should have its own night with no "competition."
That's it...nothing more nothing less. this is such an obvious point to "get"...and the fact that it's being stonewalled so hard is just ridiculous.
barleye responding to a
comment by Drooby420
11.24.09 - 5:11 am
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Out of all the other cities around the country that put on a critical mass, do they have more than one ride on the same night? I know SF doesn't.
And don't forget the conversations about the little tiny wire that runs up Western. Still can't figure that out.
stevo4 responding to a
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11.24.09 - 8:50 am
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Then my solution is the right solution.
*****
SO WHAT OF ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO BOTH RIDES?
Drooby420
11.24.09 - 2:57 am
Ms. Stephanie responding to a
comment by Drooby420
11.24.09 - 9:15 am
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I forgot about that Stevo....there have been some good times on LACM the last few years...
barleye responding to a
comment by stevo4
11.24.09 - 9:26 am
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yes ms. you maybe on to somethin i have never disagreed with this, but last time we tried this when it came time for some of us to breake off and go to peoples ride the rest of the ride decided to go with us
Drooby420 responding to a
comment by Ms. Stephanie
11.25.09 - 2:44 pm
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Don't break off. Stay with LACM. Someone can take charge of People's Ride and bring them to us. Just think of how a rolling convergence on Hollywood Blvd. would look! It would be pretty rad. And then we could all as a giant group go fuck with Hollywood and Highland shopping traffic.
Ms. Stephanie responding to a
comment by Drooby420
11.25.09 - 2:58 pm
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w00t!
FBI responding to a
comment by Ms. Stephanie
11.25.09 - 3:00 pm
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i am definately gonna break off to peoples ride, but i agree this sounds crazy fun lets try and make this happen.
Drooby420 responding to a
comment by Ms. Stephanie
11.25.09 - 3:10 pm
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Oh that tiny little wire...what is it!!!
TheJen responding to a
comment by stevo4
11.25.09 - 3:15 pm
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Fuckin with Hollywood and Highland was my favorite part of santacon last year.
toweliesbong responding to a
comment by Ms. Stephanie
11.25.09 - 3:24 pm
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so i guess once again the ride's gonna end at the start of the people's ride.
coldcut11.25.09 - 6:52 pm
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happy thanksgiving
convergent rides sounds amazing!
LACM should go WEST
then come back in time to converge with Peoples riders from the EAST
10:00 Circle of Death H&H
then we can take over l.a.
sklank11.26.09 - 8:47 am
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^^^^^I 100% agree with that idea.^^^^^
So, after all of my posts, I can't make it tonight. I'm sick, goddammit. However, there are those who can't make LACM who have expressed willingness to and interest in bringing People's Ride to LACM for a rolling convergence.
Don't forget it's Black Friday! Ride your bikes, don't buy bullshit.
Ms. Stephanie responding to a
comment by sklank
11.27.09 - 12:22 pm
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I mean, it's Buy Nothing Day. Jeebus, all the Black Friday prints ads and whatnot have me all topsy turvy. Fuck Black Friday. Buy Nothing.
Ms. Stephanie11.27.09 - 12:23 pm
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LACM/pep's ride is fine the way it is
plus there's thee "F"ride on first friidays
if you have'nt tried it i suggest you jump on
the band wagon cause that shits F.U.N
Xray11.27.09 - 12:46 pm
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you are right Xray.
These rides are so huge, it takes a lot of coordination to keep everyone together and safe. Luckily there are riders who step up and take the initiative. Really if you normally don't do these rides, you really shouldn't be ragging about it.
328rides4ever responding to a
comment by Xray
11.27.09 - 1:04 pm
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bring out your walkie talkies if you have em and set the channel to 4-0
for peoples ride at least
Drooby42011.27.09 - 1:45 pm
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First off, I'm going to start this post with the fact that I will not be on tonight's LACM or TPR, as I am stuck 3000+ miles away in Florida, and even if I weren't there's a possibility I would just end up on VCM anyway (it's much closer to where I live), but that is not a certainty, in fact I was really considering LACM for this month before I got stuck coming to visit family.
Anyway.
This argument has been going on for over a year, perpetuated primarily by the same 3 or 4 people, and to be honest, It's kind of annoying.
In that long ass meantime, the ride has been doing it's thing, and to be honest, on the ride itself, for the most part (aside from maybe the August 09 ride- long story) there weren't too many problems.
I've been doing LACM for over 3 years now, and, up until very recently almost religiously, and you know what, it's not all that different than it used to be. The ride does it's own thing, always has. and some of you are trying to argue your points with some interesting twists on what used to occur. Long LONG before TPR started there were rides after LACM, I remember on some of my first last Friday rides standing at Hollywood and Vermont waiting for LACM to show up, and you know what, no-one was complaining.
Then there was this long period where there was no ride after LACM, and the ride was usually over by 9pm.
Then LACM dwindled to like 20 people.
Then there was one rainy, cold Friday with 6 of us standing at Wilshire/Western
Then TPR started, and concurrently LACM started to grow again. TPR was originally created as a way to EXTEND Critical Mass, a way to keep riding, keep partying, and keep enjoying the ride by bringing more people, you know those people who can't make the early start. LA is huge, it's bigger than the state of Rhode Island, and we have people who ride from all over, not all of them can make the early start time due to work or whatever.
I've done CM in a LOT of cities, and you know which city of those has a ride that goes longest into the night on the last Friday of the month, with a Mass of cyclists on the road (regardless of the name of the ride)?
That's right, LA.
Who cares weather or not it's called LACM or TPR at that point. It's BIKES ON THE STREETS. I really don't care if part of the ride includes us RIDING to Hollywood/Vermont. We're still riding.
Sure LONG ass stops should probably be avoided, but we still need to stop. LACM/TPR bring out more newbies than probably any other ride in the city, and without stops we lose people so fast. Mechanicals, flats, people just plain getting lost, whatever, these people need a chance to regroup because the ride can end up going fuck all over the city, and oh yeah it does.
There have been LACM's (SINCE the start of TPR even) that have gone to Beverly Hills, DTLA, USC, and Plenty of other places. However, TPR ALSO does that.
I'm glad that people in the opposition are finally starting to try to try to provide ideas for a way to affect the changes they want to see rather than just bitching. The only feasible one so far is Ms. Stephanie's repeatedly posted (like 6 times) idea about a convergence. It's a cool idea, converging rides is cool, however there are a few issues. For one, it eliminates a stop for CM, which to be honest most people want by that point.
Usually CM has one stop halfway through, and the next one is H/V, sometimes the first stop IS H/V. Sure many of us can ride MUCH further, but not everyone. Remember, most of the people on these rides are NOT on this board, and MANY of them are not strong cyclists. These people need a chance to take a break. So let em.
A second issue is just one of attrition. Say that LACM wanders really far from the Mid-Town area (which in my experience is the most trafficked part of town at night, particularly on Fridays), CM is going to be a small dwindling ride by that point, as people fall away due to the normal attrition of the ride. Part of why TPR works well the way it does is due to the fact that for those who CAN'T ride all night knowing that there is a stop, a guaranteed stop, close enough to the start for them to return to, makes people more willing to at least ride through the first part of the ride.
In that period where it was JUST LACM on the last Friday, part of the reason the ride was usually over by 9pm was often just that, the ride would wander somewhere and people would just be done, or afraid it wouldn't go back toward their part of town, and just leave.
Another issue is one of coordination. If CM is doing it's CM thing as we all would like it to do (and to be honest it often does, those who say otherwise haven't been on enough recent CMs), that could potentially make it very tough for TPR to find it. The same as it is for those who are dropped from the ride. What is more likely to occur than a rolling convergence is that eventually LACM will stop and TPR, which has been chasing it will eventually catch up.
Sure it sounds cool, but who's going to step up and organize that anyway?
I dunno, this is all just my 2 cents anyway. I'm not saying that the ride cannot change, I just haven't seen anything proposed yet that is going to be better than what we already have.
I'd say if there are changes needed, it's mostly just the need for shorter stops. Limit 'em to 20-30 minutes and the major issues would be solved.
FuzzBeast11.27.09 - 1:54 pm
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Dude! Thanks for the Thesis.
In short, you are right.
328rides4ever responding to a
comment by FuzzBeast
11.27.09 - 1:58 pm
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+1 fuzz
when are you coming back to town
Xray11.27.09 - 2:03 pm
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you gotta come visit your friends on the east side more.....have'nt see you in amin...ayy bring me back something nice form florida
Xray11.27.09 - 2:10 pm
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I definitely think it should not be a predictable route. and maybe if the ride ends up to far from the peoples ride we could make phone contact and both could ride to an equal meet up point that way we could meet up with out having to go all the way back to fat burger.
buckchin
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