Register to Vote
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marino at 01.7.08 - 7:33 pm
From informal polls I've taken it looks like at least half the people here are not registered to vote and two thirds never vote. That's not unusual since most young people don't vote.
I know that all of you here are smart and wonderful people so I don't really care who you vote for. I trust you'll make good choices.
Please register to vote.
Yes.There is no guarantee it will make a difference but we won't know until we all try it at the same time. OK? Please?
If you want to take part in the presidential primary in California you need to mail your registration by Jan 22.
You can download it here:
http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/elections_vr.htm
or ride to your local post office, grab a form and fill it on the spot.
If you don't want to be counted as affiliated with any particular party you can set your party affiliation as "DECLINE TO STATE" and still be eligible to vote in the Democratic Party primary.
Republican, Libertarian, Green and P&F parties don't allow independents to vote on their primaries but Democrats do.
Questions? 1-800-345-VOTE (8663) Secretary of State
If you are already registered to vote you can ask for an absentee ballot here:
https://lavote.net/secured/av/Default.cfm?election=549
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bizzump.
thanks for the info, i was meaning to find out by when i had to register, but have been too lazy.
voting is kewl.
illafilla01.8.08 - 10:10 am
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Me too, I'm embarrassed to say.
SPOOK01.8.08 - 12:21 pm
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Independence party is an actual right wing political party.
If that is your thing, cool, but people usually mistake that as, "being independent of any party". If you don't want to register under any party then you would check, "Decline to State"
Another thing is make sure if you decide to sign any petition, that you write your name exactly as you registered as and put down the same address as on you registration.
sexy01.8.08 - 12:32 pm
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Sexy wrote:
"Independence party is an actual right wing political party."
True.
It's actually listed as "American Independent Party" and it's our very own fascist party.
I know many people here, including myself, view themselves as independents and cringe at the thought of registering to vote with any particular party othen than C.R.A.N.K. MOB .
So I said that they can register as "Decline To State" which would make it boring during the primaries but it's not because they can still ask for a Democratic Party primary ballot and have fun deciding between Obama, Clinton, Edwards, Kucinich and that Rasta guy Borfo likes.
marino01.8.08 - 4:25 pm
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Hey Mon! Don't be bashing my Ganga Mon like dat otay?!!
Joe Borfo01.8.08 - 4:33 pm
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The democrats have always positioned themselves to be sabotaged by the Republicans. By them having an open primary, is a perfect example.
What am I saying? The Democratic Party, in general, are stupid.
Mike Gravel, though, is the shit. http://www.gravel2008.us/issues
He's a Vet that opposes the war?! What? That's right.
If I vote, i'll probably pick up the democrat ballot, and vote for Gravel.
the reverend dak01.21.08 - 5:27 pm
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Tomorrow is the deadline for voting in the California primary.
If you have not registered yet...
go to the post office tomorrow
pick up a voting registration form
fill it on the spot
and drop it in the mail slot.
You don't even have to wait in line.
No postage required.
Be part of history!
marino01.21.08 - 5:50 pm
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bump
Last day to register for the California primaries is today Tuesday, Jan 22.
Go to your local post office and grab a registration form.
Where is the nearest post office?
Find out
here
Be part of the elections that will bring US the first black president or the first woman president or just kill another few hundred thousand people in far away countries nobody gives a shit about.
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marino01.22.08 - 12:23 pm
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marino wrote:
Be part of the elections that will bring US the first black president or the first woman president or just kill another few hundred thousand people in far away countries nobody gives a shit about.
That second "or" should be an "and."
PC01.22.08 - 12:57 pm
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Just write me in on your Ballot:
Rev. Joe H. Borfo for President
Joe Borfo01.22.08 - 1:36 pm
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Two parties one agenda... blablabla...
I didn't vote for Bill Clinton in 1992, I voted Peace and Freedom
I didn't vote for Gore in 2000, I voted for Nader.
I'm not married to the Democrats. My wife is registered Green.
But while we are sitting here playing radicalzz I'm thinking...
How many people died in foreign wars under Bill Clinton and how many under GWB?
Maybe it's not cool to vote Democrats but I think if Bush was not elected a lot less people would have died.
Anyway this thread is about who to vote for, it's about voting. And yes maybe it doesn't make any difference whatsoever but it doesn't take that much time. It's worth trying.
marino01.22.08 - 2:00 pm
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Rev. Joe H. Borfo for President
marino01.22.08 - 2:01 pm
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I meant to write:
Anyway this thread is
NOT about who to vote for, it's about voting.
Rev. Joe H. Borfo for President
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marino01.22.08 - 2:04 pm
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How many people died in foreign wars under Bill Clinton and how many under GWB?
That is a great question Marino? How many did die from the sanctions against Iraq and periodical bombings, how many did die in the bombing of the former Yugoslavian Republic?
What happen with when the US went into Haiti in 1994?
OOOPpss, my bad on the first two, the sanctions where imposed by the UN, and the Bombing in the former Yugoslav Republic was NATO.
That right, Clinton had nothing to do with it.
sexy01.22.08 - 2:24 pm
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Believe me David,
I know about Serbia. My mom and my brother and all my cousins live just on the other side of that border and they fuckin hate Clinton for bombing Serbians.
But still that was nothing compared to the bloodbath that's today's Iraq.
You think they are all the same? Fine. Stay home. Don't vote.
marino01.22.08 - 2:35 pm
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Of course, such an argument is basically moot, since the 'wars' that Clinton involved us in were ongoing before we ever put a single troop on the ground or bomb in the air. You can attempt to equate unilateral pre-emptive war with peacekeeping missions in war-torn countries, but you'd be hard pressed to draw too many parallels other than the fact that lots of innocent people get killed in both cases. However, it is pretty reasonable to argue that the death toll in Iraq would have been MUCH lower over the last 4 years if we had not gotten involved. The same cannot be said about the conflicts in the Clinton years - which is exactly why they were UN and NATO missions rather than the US going it alone.
So vote. There are people all over this planet who would, quite literally, die to have the privilege to vote in a democratic election. And if you don't think your vote counts, just take a look at the last 7 years and think again. Hell, depending upon where you lived at the time, even a vote for Nader in 2000 had a huge impact, since it may have delivered Shrub to the white house.
ideasculptor01.22.08 - 2:47 pm
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voting is waste of time.. i'll be busy riding my bike
khaos01.22.08 - 2:59 pm
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let us not ignore, that it is US policy that lead to blood baths all over the world. You would have to look much deeper at what causes these confilicts to understand what I'm talking about.
case in point read http://www.iacenter.org/bosnia/tragedy.htm
to understand how US law preceded the situation in the former Yugoslavian Republic
I don't necessarily agree, that Iraq might have been different under a Gore Administration. The Untied States and especially Clinton, set up a policy and relationship with Iraq, that left no other choice then the US invading Iraq when it did. None of the tactics against Iraq where working, the sanctions didn't remove the political rule that the US didn't like, the CIA couldn't pull off a Coup, and it was impossible to assassinate S. Hussin, with all the body doubles the guy had. His personal security never knew if they where guarding the president or a body double. There was no way to be sure that they would kill the right Sadam, so it never happened.
To say that the Nader vote in 2000 had a huge impact on that years presidential elections, does what the Gore team did after that election, ignores that there was thousands of people who where illegally removed from the voter rolls in Flordia, by Secretary of State/Flordia state Bush Florida campaign chairs K. Harris office.
you can read about this here
http://www.gregpalast.com/the-great-florida-ex-con-gamernhow-the-felon-voter-purge-was-itself-felonious
Yes you can vote, maybe your vote will be counted, maybe it won't.
That is if you haven't been caged off the list. This usually happens by Republican challenging if someone has a legitimate right to vote. Example, you can challegen someones legal right to vote by sending a registered letter to the address of a voter, say a solider now serving in say, Iraq, or a homeless person. Iif it is not signed for and responded to, that person who challenged it, can request that the votes name be removed from the voting rolls. So that solider may vote be absent ballot, but not have their vote counted. As for tthe homeless person, you can figure that out.
Read about that here
http://www.gregpalast.com/raging-caging-what-the-heck-is-vote-caging-and-why-should-we-care/
I will be voting, I think I only missed one elections since I turned 18,
I reality is, that I have little faith that it will be counted. I don't even trust the Inkadot vote system. Have your ballot read by a machine in one part of the county and have them sent through a phone line to be read in another part of the county. Nah, nobody could tamper with them.
2nd, most people vote against their self-interest,. Most people vote for whatever candidate is popular and that might appeal to them.
Most people don't even do the research for the initiative that are placed before them to decide, if they go into law or not.
So does it matter that I vote, to me it does. Does it matter that most people don't take this seriously, oh YES, it does. Will things change for the better as long as people remain apathetic. Unfortunately, it will get worse.
sexy01.22.08 - 3:54 pm
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- Who gets elected doesn't matter.
- Even if it mattered it wouldn't be counted.
- Even if it was counted most people aren't to be trusted with their voting judgment.
Gee Dave thanks for the motivational speech.
Please come again.
marino01.22.08 - 6:48 pm
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Yeah, quit telling the truth, David. It's harshing my mellow.
PC01.22.08 - 8:31 pm
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Just to address your points:
The sanctions against Iraq had kept Saddam totally contained. He wasn't developing nukes and the inspectors were getting the job done - unless you believed the hype laid out by the Bushies. There is nothing to suggest that Gore would have felt like invading Iraq was necesary and it is entirely likely that he would have kept our eye on the ball in Afghanistan rather than get distracted by Iraq. The resident of the white house absolutely set our foreign policy direction differently than a democrat would have. Yes, the two parties are closer together than I'd like them to be, but there are a whole lot of shades of grey between black and white, and the 'evidence' you've laid out does nothing to convince me that I don't prefer the shade represented by the democrats compared to that of the republicans.
The purging of the voter rolls certainly had an impact on the florida results, but their impacts was smaller than the impact of the Nader vote. Either one, of course, would have turned the election for Gore had it not existed, but you can't put 100% of the blame for the Bush 'win' in 2000 on the GOP efforts to disenranchise Floridians unless you think Nader was part of that effort, and I don't know anyone who believes that. Without Nader, their efforts would have been in vain.
Additionally, you'll have a hard time convincing me that any amount of cheating will turn this election for a republican, especially in the wake of this morning's economic events. They'd have to cheat so gratuitously and obviously that there would be an uproar if they tried it. I have to say, however, that one of the reasons I wish it wasn't a race between Hillary and Obama is that the misogyny and racism inherent in parts of our population does give the GOP a window that I don't think they'd have if they were running against a white male democrat. I think it speaks to the courage of folks who vote democratic that idealism is a frequently quoted reason for supporting both Hillary and Obama, but it may be a tactical mistake at a time when this country can ill afford it.
One of the few 'positive' things you can say about the GOP in recent decades is that they've shown a willingness to adhere to strategic necessity that far surpasses that shown by the dems. I don't
want a govt that governs out of strategic necessity, but I'll take a democratic administration that has goals I somewhat agree with over a GOP one that I think has no allegiance to the Amrican people, regardless, so I think it would have been in our long term best interest (best path to 16+ years of democratic presidency) to have nominated a white male candidate ( with Gore or Edwards being my preferences).
Regardless, the first step toward recovering our power as an electorate is to get out and vote. At the very least we need to make them work for their fraud. The least we can do, as a sign of respect to the billions who have no vote at all, is to get out and cast a ballot every time we have an opportunity. At least, that's what I think.
--sam
ideasculptor01.22.08 - 9:02 pm
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But thanks for the reminder to register, in any case. I recently moved, so I needed to do so, and I convinced a few other co-workers to register when I came back to the office with registration forms.
--sam
ideasculptor01.22.08 - 9:03 pm
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is this about an episode of west wing or something?
khaos01.22.08 - 9:39 pm
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If any of you civic minded citizens ever need some extra money or want to take an active role in politics,drop me a line(littleevileddy@yahoo.com or cell(760)220-8591)I'm a petition coordinator and I can help any of you become a paid petition gatherer.
You get paid per signature,which will add up fast if you know what you're do'n.
Little Evil Eddy01.23.08 - 6:15 pm
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One way cyclists can affect their lives is by registering to vote, and voting their interests in local elections.
The presidential race is a great time to register, but it's not going to have too much impact on your day to day life the way a local city council election will.
I've seen contests in L.A. County in the past five years decided by as little as 300 votes. That particular race was for a seat in the CA State Assembly - a seat of power representing several hundred thousand people and lots and lots of money and power statewide.
Vote, and vote your personal self interest. We're likely all going to be better off in the end for it.
ubrayj0201.23.08 - 6:52 pm
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There are some upcoming City Council elections in L.A. soon - and cyclists (if we can even modestly organize) can have an impact on what our City Council pays attention to after they are in office.
There are not a lot of us, but if we can get even 100 to 200 people in a Council District to vote one way or another based on cycling issues - well then, we'll have some real pull.
We won't be shot-calling stuff, but we'll be able to have our voices heard in the halls of power.
That means: more money for bicycle projects; positive attention from City Departments; and a potentially virtuous cycle of positive press and relationsihps with neighborhood advocates (who are ALWAYS looking for ways to slow cars down in their neighborhoods).
ubrayj0201.23.08 - 11:30 pm
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Yes Josef but can you say "ridazz" instead of "cyclists" ?
Ridazz got more cojones. Si?
cyclists = psychos
:-)
marino01.23.08 - 11:59 pm
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I vote for no President. And C.R.A.N.K Mob for Congress.
Brian01.24.08 - 10:33 am
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Ridazz Roulette!
