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Tomorrow 25 people from our community will escort Jared Leto to the red carpet of the VMAs. they are paying 200$ to ride your bike 2 hours. Most of the people going have jobs. The Kings and Queens video was fucking lame and was made fun of around the world. Yet now these people want to escort Leto to the red carpet to be on live TV and get 200$, woohoo. I guess selling out is cool, I was in a Katy Perry music video, but not riding a fucking tall bike or selling out my person brand. So if your riding with Leto tomorrow I please ask you do not ride a freak bike (especially if I helped you create it!) you will get 200$ and be on TV no matter what bike you ride. Knowing people I helped build freak bikes are riding to escort Leto makes me never want to help anyone build a bike again and makes me never want to ride a freak bike again.
I mean fuck, he suckered you into a shitty video and made you fight with the production company to get paid. Now you want more?
whoa, tall bike riders must be really talented, I dont know if I could even catch a frame pump with my hand while riding my bike.
See that's why i don't have much motivation to do anything cool anymore... i just feel like a poser now riding a bmx, tall bike, freak bike... people are just too good at what they do these days, and i'll always just be stuck to catching up...
best i resign myself to marriage and family, cause no one is good at that.
md2 responding to a comment by ruinedbyidiots
09.12.10 - 9:21 am
Lame comment, especially coming from a Born-Again Roadie (don't think we didn't see you with *L in your matching lycra.)
Your bullshit comment has nothing to do with what Larson is griping about, and it's something that YOU should have stood by instead of taking cheap shots at tall bike riders.
Anyone can be a troll, it's cheap and boring. Stop being predictable, say something constructive for once.
Fucking leto is at it again. Whoever sells their ass to ride leto's dick should be publicly shammed. What a fucking joke. Leto says
"We have an entrance plan that has never, ever been done before in the history of the VMAs," Leto told MTV News. "Basically, it's like Seinfeld but not... it's like open-heart surgery on the dance floor, it's like taking your eyeballs out and putting them in the opposite sockets. It's going to be crazy."
The part that he doesn't seem to understand is that in Hollywood, paying a bunch of people to pretend to be your friends isn't actually all that new or innovative.
Though I guess he's right when he says "...it's like open-heart surgery on the dance floor, it's like taking your eyeballs out and putting them in the opposite sockets." Yeah, it's exactly like those things. It's good to see that his talent for simile and metaphor is every bit as sophisticated in real life as it is in his music.
*In case I was unclear in that last post: I think that taking your eyeballs out and putting them in the opposite sockets is a terrible, terrible idea. Don't let me stop you from trying, though.
Assuming he doesn't suffer a premature death, Jared Leto will one day be an old man and may actually need open heart surgery. If he has any sense at all, I would think he would choose to undergo that procedure within the confines a of sterile operating room, rather than out on the dance floor.
mr rollers responding to a comment by nathansnider
09.12.10 - 12:50 pm
i feel like shooting all you cry baby nerds.why cant you idiots step back,look at the things that you are caring so much about and realize that you should just let it go and enjoy your life.live and let live you lame-o's.i feel like shooting myself for reading and replying.
but whats the big deal.you shoulda just kept the bikes if you didnt want someone using them the way they want to.once you hand em over to someone else who knows what theyre gonna do with them.instead of thinking its stupid ,just accept it and stop making tallbikes for people or keep doing it and see where youre next bike will be spotted.this is not life or death shit.you would be more punk rock if you didnt give a shit.dont lose any more punk points in my book buddy.youre down to 1,876
mandingo responding to a comment by larsenf
09.12.10 - 5:33 pm
And that sense of self-empowerment is evident in several scenes: the silhouetted image of cyclists climbing a hill unencumbered, the epic “Circle of Death†bike stunt filmed at the intersection of Hollywood Boulevard and Highland Avenue, the blink-and-you-miss-it shot of a man, face covered, tossing a bouquet of flowers (an homage to street artist Banksy). The message, it seems, is clear: There is might in masses, a freedom in unity and strength in conviction. And all it takes to harness any of it is will.
the guy seems plastic and his music is definitely boring. his bicycle comes off as a fashion accessory, and i can understand why people around here would get miffed about that.
that said, i could give a fuck. where's kanye?
lackflag responding to a comment by Girl Power
09.12.10 - 8:04 pm
I'm with you Girl Power, I would totally escort Jared... to my bedroom...then seduce him
and then I'd rob him.
See, see... damn it dingo... how many god damn points do i have now? I'm trying to verify this shit to my girlfriend right now, but she aint believing me
md2 responding to a comment by Girl Power
09.12.10 - 8:18 pm
Just saw them on TV...I ride bikes for fun...end of my story. They looked like they were having fun. AND THEY GOT PAID! End of thread. Md2...you and Foldie have equal points.
@ Lackflag, why is he "plastic"? He seems like a really smart guy who likes to ride bikes. Movies, music and glossy commercial made automobiles fashionable, so who cares why he, or anyone, likes to ride as long as they ride more and use cars less.
Last time I ever saw a wide variety of quality videos there was '95-'00.
I also liked it when they mixed up the genres instead of having them grouped.
Hip hop vid, followed by an alt-rock vid, followed by a pop vid, followed by a smooth rnb vid, followed by a dance vid.
I don't even want to know where they managed to dig up an audience for the shit they pass as programming nowadays.
If TPTB wanted to get people to stop watching TV and do something with their life, they managed to work over some of us.
KellieCobra
"@DannyHutto: id like to thank jared and shannon leto for ruining fixed gear, congratulations" @jaredleto @ShannonLeto
24 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Paul was tossing a mix of ketchup water and glitter on all the little hollywood girls from his tallbike 10ft away from the entrance, he was right in front of me and they all started running around holding their hair screaming, lol
Then when Leto was interviewed Christie started launching glitter and water from a fountain and I'm pretty sure someone was tossing flour too- he probably just got hit with a concoction and it stuck, whatever it was.
I told Paul he should ghost ride his bike into a crowd of celebrities, I'm pretty sure he was ready to haha.
All in all, I'm left with the fact that Leto gave no thanks or even honorable mention to ridazz for basically starring in his music video. At least he didn't make me play the 30 seconds to mars song on my sound bike. I had a nightmare about that last night.
jonnyboy responding to a comment by larsenf
09.12.10 - 10:59 pm
And by no "thanks to ridazz" I mean when he accepted the award he said nothing about ridazz or cyclists, even though they were the spotlight of the video and it won.
Would anyone have thought he was being genuine if he had thanked ridazz or the cycling community? Would anyone here want to be associated with his music if it weren't for the money involved?
Even though I think people spend way too much time worrying about bike culture's pwecious, pwecious bwand identity or whatever, I'm quite happy that "we" are not being implicated in any of this hyper-commercialized culture industry crap.
Jared Leto is a brand and a bike is just his accessory of cool for the time being. I am sure when big wheels make a come back he will be rocking one of those as his fixed speed bike will be collecting dust in his garage.
Foldie responding to a comment by nathansnider
09.12.10 - 11:29 pm
image shack is awesome, you just saved a spacer. a blank white square instead of the actual photo because the website didn't want you to steal their photo. right? i think so.
so link us to the website!
Im not really sure why you posted that ... but... Im not even in the credits of the video ... so do you really think I would be buthurt from not getting invited to this? I still got paid to be in the video ...
I'm curious, how does it look "all planned out"? Also, if we bring glitter and flour to a ride and throw it everywhere tying to have fun...that's planned out too right? We had a fantastic day. When we were waiting around in a tent for 3 hours we had a blast. We got involved with all the teen justin bieber fans, played jump rope, danced around, played duck duck goose with cameron in a chicken costume, and blew their fucking minds. Maybe these kids will want to stop being fans of some teen star and think about riding bikes for fun.
Just because you helped your friends build some tall bikes does not mean they in any way belong to you. Stop being so arrogant. Stop being in Katy Pery music videos and then come back here and be frustrated with people "selling out". You are being totally ignorant.
Also I'm homeless and needed the money. I won all around.
Maybe these kids will want to stop being fans of some teen star and think about riding bikes for fun.
this is probably one of the dumbest things ive ever read on this site. midnight ridazz will not change the way pop culture works because midnight ridazz itself is a part of pop culture.
"We are plotting and planning the arrival of 30 Seconds to Mars, and hopefully, we will be appearing in a very special way, but we haven't got the final approval [yet]," Leto smiled.
md2 responding to a comment by Frozen Fingersss
09.13.10 - 10:17 am
can i say "shut up" to you without it reading like I'm a hypocrite?
but i am with you on the point about that being a pretty ironic statement. the paradox is amazing... let's ride our bikes with a teen pop star, so teens will want to stop being fans and ride bikes instead.
brilliant... grab the tall bikes and let's go!
md2 responding to a comment by ruinedbyidiots
09.13.10 - 10:23 am
I thought it was a good point. pop culture influences people and if bikes become more popular then that's awesome. I mean when did you get into fixed gear bikes? 3 years ago? weren't you riding a roadie bike and wearing lycra when I first met you?
Roadblock responding to a comment by ruinedbyidiots
09.13.10 - 10:49 am
You know it would have been at least more authentic if he would have just posted a ride. Instead of manufacturing some "awesome", "mind blowing" event with 27 bikes he could have had a huge ride pull up with him. 500 - 1000 ridazz rolling around LA live would be noteworthy, 27 Bike Angeles getting paid to be themselves is just meh.
At the end of the day I am sure people had fun but like all Jared Leto ventures you kind of feel like a cheap whore. Sure you got paid but now you got to clean that teen pop star smegma off.
Foldie responding to a comment by Roadblock
09.13.10 - 11:00 am
if the guy actually went on rides and made friends and supported the LA bike culture. then it would be authentic to post a ride and have real friends join in and support him for free. he hasn't done anything like that he's just an outsider trying to be cool like us. so it's far better IMHO that at least he's paying people to help him look cool.
I mean I can def see Larsen's point but I can also see Frozenfingersss point. When I first quick scanned the email I thought it was just free tickets to the emmys I had no idea it was related to Leto. then I thought it was Leto asking people to do it for free... which was insulting in my mind... it wasnt until I saw this post that I realized the guy was paying everyone $200 to ride. I mean that changes the game. Leto is paying ridazz to make him look cool to his fans.. that's interesting. that makes cyclists look like the purveyors of cool and anyone who isnt cool better pay up for our services. there are drawbacks and there are bonuses...
every generation has to go through this. the tastemakers of the generation create some cultural change, then the herd finds out and the owners buy it and co-opt it. it gets huge and popular and lasts for a few generations and the next generation of tastemakers after that gets bored and invents something new and the cycle continues.
it's conflicting in the sense that on one hand if cycling gets popular enough then the momentum might exist to change the LA transportation grid... if it stays underground then we get to enjoy this wave of cool without the herd stampeding all over it so fast.
maybe im wrong but I thought RBIs point was that getting kids to ride bikes wont change pop culture, because MR is part of pop culture.
Frozen Fingas, seemed to suggest, seeing bikes at the event would curbed fans enthusiasm towards their pop idols and love bikes instead.
The irony is our own enthusiasm toward a pop star, and supposing that co-opting his fame for 15 minutes, while he co-opts the culture would somehow cause kids to think: pop stars suck, bikes rock!
Pop culture is a bit stronger than that, hence Jared Leto, who brings both worlds together in cheap fashion. The new cool via Leto is: Pop star cyclist kick ass!
And in a way they do.
md2 responding to a comment by Roadblock
09.13.10 - 11:36 am
saying that MR is part of pop culture is a backhanded swipe at MR as per RBI's usual... RBI thinks that the moment he discovered MR and fixed gear bikes was when it was tRULY "underground." Well it was even moar undurgroond when there was only 8 of us, but then it was even moar undurgrooond when it was just the messengers and the eco-villagers, but then it was even moar undurundurgrooond when it was Atomic Paul and Chopercabras but then it waaaaass even moar underuinderundergrooon when it was the black labels in minneapolis...... and then it was ebveeene mooooaaaar uyndunerrgoooon when it was kevin bacon. that's where this all started. with. kevin. bacon.
Right, hence I wanted to tell him to "shut up"... but i also agree that FF statement was pretty weird.
I have a solution:
Ban RBI!!!
Ban RBI!!!
But you gotta agree, people spend their money on the weirdest stuff sometimes. I was just thinking about this VMA thing (in exchange for some punk rock points)
Leto: "I got like five grand to blow on my image for the VMA. Sick, right?"
Yes Man: "Totally sick, lets hire like two tall bike riders and pay them $2500 each to ride with you to VMA"
Leto: "Two riders? Im Jared fucking Leto fixed gear ghost bike ride whip, man. Im thinking open heart surgery on the dance floor, and switching butt implant where breast implants would be. I need a whole crew of riders to establish my image man, what the hell do i pay you for?"
Yes Man: "Sorry, yeah, lets find 25 riders then and only pay them $200 each"
Leto: "They should just do this for some food I have left over in the fridge, but then I wont seem so socially conscious; totally sucks to be Jared Leto. I want people to understand I'm all about Earth and galaxies and onions first, man."
Designer: "I LOVE IT...love it, love it, love it... I have the perfect outfit for this... oh my god, you're going to look so urban"
Leto: "Cool, but don't make me look poor, okay?
md2 responding to a comment by Roadblock
09.13.10 - 12:33 pm
As a currently homeless, working student, the money was a major enticement.
As a rida, the chance to see something ridiculous and new on a bike ride was another.
As a subversive nonsense junkie, the opportunity to SERIOUSLY FUCK UP MTV's GIANT CORPORATE MACHINATIONS was a third.
As a social creature, the idea of spending several hours just hanging out with my friends seemed pretty great.
Let's not forget that I had nothing better to do with a few hours on a Sunday afternoon.
Everyone who's complaining is retarded. End of story.
I don't care what you think the pop-culture fallout will be. People radically misinterpreted FF's post. We hopped the little corral fence they blocked the Bieber fancrew in with to start a renegade game of duck duck goose chickensuit. We feathered a giant tent. We carpet chalked. We were a giant goddamned shocking spectacle to a bunch of teens in their little ticky tacky boxes, and it was probably good for them to see a bunch of people having rowdy fun in ways they didn't realize were allowed. No one assumes it's going to change the way they buy their media. We do assume it's good to be ourselves and not be afraid to act that way in public for fear of others' perceptions.
Also, I'd just like to state for the record how funny it was they fenced in or off every other group but somehow left the maniacs open to cause a ruckus.
I don't want to suck Jared Leto's dick. I wanted to have F.U.N. Three periods.
Mission Accomplished. Back to you guys being butthurt over your own perceived drama. The "omigawdih8tehwestside" part is especially satisfying.
just curious, so what's Jared's whole take on the bike stuff anyway? It would be kind of cool if he really gave it more attention in a not so glamor shots kind of way, but i think it's cool that he's trying anyway.
Has anyone who has been paid by him, had the opportunity to dig into his bike thoughts? Im sure there are gems there, but it would be cooler to really figure out what he's after in order to possibly co-sign his attempts, rather than it always being perceived like he's fishing for riders.
md2 responding to a comment by mikeisadumbname
09.13.10 - 1:22 pm
if the guy wouldnt of asked bikers to join him,MR police woulda been pissed.
if he had paid less , nothing at all or more than he did,MR police woulda been pissed.
if he had made the ridazz just sit there on their top tubes looking bored,MR police woulda been pissed.
if he hadnt used any tall bikes,MR police woulda been pissed.
if he wore cutoff little girl denim shorts,MR police woulda been pissed.
if he wore a suit while on his fixie,MR police woulda been pissed.
if he had ridden a road bike or mt.bike,,MR police woulda been pissed.
if he had arived in a limo,MR police woulda been pissed.
if the video hadnt won,MR police woulda been pissed.
f he woulda aknowledged MR during acceptance speech,MR police woulda been pissed.
you people wouldnt have been happy no matter what.you people have make bike riders seem like the bitchiest group of people around.worse than spandex clad roadies.
and i dont have a metal book but if i did ,RBI 's metal points would be flying out my window like cheap toxic mexican candy flyin out a spoken art burning pinyata
GODDAMN IT!!! my fuckin tivo sopped recording before bvoty was announced.just watched a lot of well dress black men dancing aroungd for nothing.@md2 you must have a lot of time at work to be posting so much
saying that MR is part of pop culture is a backhanded swipe at MR as per RBI's usual... RBI thinks that the moment he discovered MR and fixed gear bikes was when it was tRULY "underground." Well it was even moar undurgroond when there was only 8 of us, but then it was even moar undurgrooond when it was just the messengers and the eco-villagers, but then it was even moar undurundurgrooond when it was Atomic Paul and Chopercabras but then it waaaaass even moar underuinderundergrooon when it was the black labels in minneapolis...... and then it was ebveeene mooooaaaar uyndunerrgoooon when it was kevin bacon. that's where this all started. with. kevin. bacon.
Roadblock
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Some of you guys wayyyyyyyy wayyyyyyy over think this shit..seriously...over analyzing every fucking sentence someone writes. What Fingas said...I got the jist of it...you can all deny it but this bike riding stuff has changed what I do and it probably changed what you do too for fun outside of riding a bike. Maybe the beiber fans will look up BIKE RIDING LOS ANGELES in google and find us and start riding a bike. maybe a good ride will be the same night as an instore at amoeba and they'll decide to ride RWNN instead....or a lame house party will be the same night as LACM...that's what she's saying....this bike riding stuff changes social lives. My friends all ride bikes. And now my friends who ride bikes may change the social lives of other kids and make them want to ride bikes.
Ride With No Name is this Friday and Foldie, eat a dick...the ride's on the westside....planned before you were riding bikes biotch...
im thinking of goin for a ride after 3.have to wait for my daughter to get outa school.im thinking of doing the brand park trail.text me if you interested.
i don't care about why you did this. you are a capable human being and you made the descision to do it. whether anybody like or not is their problem. no one owns the cycling community but.........
how exactly did you "SERIOUSLY FUCK UP MTV's GIANT CORPORATE MACHINATIONS"
How is what any of you did any different than what rich people like the lindsney lohan's, the paris hilton's do/get away with. For all the spectators know, the group could be just a bunch of trustfund babies getting paid to do shit that they would normally do. they *allowed* you to have fun. None of the things you described sounds accessible to mainstream.
It's good that you had fun but don't be so sure that it was more than it was.
mechazawa responding to a comment by mikeisadumbname
09.13.10 - 1:45 pm
The lineup on the white carpet was planned down to second accuracy, in order to keep things flowing. Not only did our impressive amount of litter force an emergency cleanup crew (woe to the poor vacuum dude), but our second unsanctioned buzz through ruined their footage of Jersey Shore's entrance, and seriously pissed off a lot of people in the corporate structure. That alone is a moral victory.
MTV is a carefully planned machine. They are a giant, corporate entity, intent upon making massive wodges of cash from the unsuspecting consumer horde. They "approved" us, not knowing what was inevitable: namely, we would be us, not what they wanted us to be.
All I regret is that there was no time/space for jumprope.
I will only eat one dick and that is Leto's when he shows up to your ride.
People are getting trolled here pretty good. Everything else is just plain silly.
I just like making fun of Jared Leto and thats about it. Although I would like to see him take a swipe at helping out with bike stuff in LA. How bout some donations to bike coop or ciCLAvila.
and yes Jared Leto is the MR whipping child. Love it or hate it play along or GTFO....
Foldie responding to a comment by barleye
09.13.10 - 1:59 pm
"but our second unsanctioned buzz through ruined their footage of Jersey Shore's entrance, and seriously pissed off a lot of people in the corporate structure. That alone is a moral victory. "
That no one saw on TV and would give one shit about. Stop trying to justify yourself by trying to make it like it was some anarchist rally. It was a bunch of fake hippies having fun.
Foldie responding to a comment by mikeisadumbname
09.13.10 - 2:02 pm
I don't want another Pop Culture Consumerist Caterer to the Lowest Common Denominator Celebrity promoting bikes as just another fashion accessory. Hell, we already have Kanye for that.
People are rarely Binary in their beliefs and as humans we have different levels of gray in between black and white. Toilet paper is a pretty binary topic. We can all agree it is good to wipe your ass. Bikes mean different things to different people, and some would like to say that bikes are part of their cultural experience and want some type of control over that. So when some Douchy musician uses that experience to enhance his brand some might take issue with that.
My story is very simple. Jared Leto threads make me happy. I like making fun of him. Call me immature, lame or irrelevant but it is my secret little pleasure.
Foldie responding to a comment by outerspace
09.13.10 - 4:15 pm
Are you serious? Any way, whether big or small, to "fight the man" and any giant corporate entity is a win. That is what anarachy is about. Not who or how many people saw what you did but the act of DOING.
And this business about fake hippies? What does that even mean?
"Not who or how many people saw what you did but the act of DOING."
This is a good point.
I remember bringing up something similar but along a different vein to a friend of mine recently. I posed him the following question and I'll pose it for the rest of you guys:
Are you the type of person who would say, "here mom, here's $100 (or any set amount you crazy fuckers want it to be) for you to use as you see fit," and taking the credit of being such a good son/daughter?
or
Are you the type of person who would rather just slip $100 in your mom's purse, knowing that she'll use them as she sees fit anyways, while keeping in mind that you won't get credited for being a good son or daughter?
Whichever you choose, know that it doesn't matter because in the end your mother is using those same $100 however she sees fit.
July responding to a comment by Frozen Fingersss
09.13.10 - 4:29 pm
So riding bikes is about anarchy now? If you are fighting the man, shouldn't you fight the man rather than caring whether he's riding a bike or not? If you're a true anarchist, shouldn't you be fighting everyone, instead of just the man? Everyone and everything that is organized, including Midnight Ridazz and organized riding in general? In fact, if you consider yourself part of a group that calls themselves anarchists... Wait, what were we talking about?
outerspace responding to a comment by Frozen Fingersss
09.13.10 - 4:40 pm
...to say that bikes are part of their cultural experience and want some type of control over that.
Since I take computers to be part of my cultural experience, and I've been using them since before some of the people posting today were born, I can call all of these people posers and say that it's not cool to use a computer anymore?
Man, the internet is so 90's. It's all about whatever the new thing is. Maybe talking to people or something.
I was just summing up the thread from the way I interpreted it.
You mileage may very
and I really don't give a fuck either way. My position again:
My story is very simple. Jared Leto threads make me happy. I like making fun of him. Call me immature, lame or irrelevant but it is my secret little pleasure.
Foldie responding to a comment by outerspace
09.13.10 - 4:48 pm
Why is it most threads eventually break down into Order (current society) vs Chaos (anarchy)? All these threads are melting into one another in my head nowadays. It just seems like the same arguments and the same points keep coming up. Quit nitpicking each other's sentences looking for cues to bring down whichever hammer (metaphorically speaking for your nitpickers) you happen to be wielding at the moment.
All I know is that we were told to ride for 45 seconds and we SERIOUSLY FUCKED UP SHIT...especially when we didn't go back to our tent afterward. How many of you have got to ride though staples and nokia theater with NO CARS ALLOWED AND SCREAMING FANS?? I dont know about you but I have NEVER EVER rode my bike down the street surrounding a red carpet event even when its a few blocks away. NOW YOU GIVE ME CREDENTIALS TO RIDE DOWN THE CARPET!!??
THEY THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA FALL IN LINE AND BE HAPPY THEY EVEN LET US IN...AND MAN WERE THEY WRONG.The security couldn't do SHIT...on top of that I know there were ridaz on acid tripping balls the whole time.
Also playing duck duck goose and watching Cameron run around in the chicken suit was odd, then Alec threw a trash can at him and it was awesome!
we had Justin Beiber fans // avatars // makeup artists // professional dance troupes // security guards
ALL COMING OVER TO FIND OUT WHO WE WERE, WHAT WE WERE DOING, AND HOW TO BE A PART OF IT...
We ALL started somewhere. We are not entitled. WE DO NOT OWN THE BIKE CULTURE.
The word Anarchism is being thrown around... it is being misused and misrepresented.... Let's keep this a thread about Leto and Bikes.... and not the philosophy of anarchism....
I see Larsenf's point since I am assuming he views his creations of tall bikes as his work of art.... and would not like his art form to be used in a manner that he did not intend or for his art to represent with ideals he disagrees with...
but if anarchism is being thrown around... i will add that this is what capitalism is.... if Leto believes this is a form to push his music he will use it... and other artists may follow or not.... I am not saying this is Leto's agenda either.... we do not know why Leto wants to use bicycles, he may really like them, he may not... all we are doing is speculating based on our prejudices and ideas...
what will happen when tall bikes are being manufactured and sold as any item... im surprised no one is getting that patent and selling them.... will they sell, who knows... Look at Che's image and how it is sold in many different articles of clothing and almost anything you can think of....
at the end... MR is the only forum making this an issue... if bicycles do not have an impact on pop culture...it has been forgotten by pop teens... if bicycles have an impact on pop culture, then more bicycles will be on the streets....
people should ride the bicycles they like and enjoy it because that is what they like, not what others are riding, or who is selling what.... ride because you love it... ride because you choose to ride.... ride because it is your passion...
The only reason I mentioned anarchy was in response to :
"but our second unsanctioned buzz through ruined their footage of Jersey Shore's entrance, and seriously pissed off a lot of people in the corporate structure. That alone is a moral victory. "
That no one saw on TV and would give one shit about. Stop trying to justify yourself by trying to make it like it was some anarchist rally. It was a bunch of fake hippies having fun.
Foldie
responding to a comment by mikeisadumbname
09.13.10 - 2:02 pm
Larson didn't build all of the tall bikes. He and Fuzz beast both showed them how to build them, and then the people who own the bikes finished them themselves. Larsen is taking credit on art that isnt completely his, so he cant really say they were taking HIS creations and ruining them.
On another note.
THERE IS TOO MUCH PARTY IN THIS PARTY.
Do a fucking barrel roll.
I did the video and the VMA's (and the Dickie's commercial). I really don't care what they did with the footage. I use to get upset about the idea of someone making money off my creative ideas that i want to give away for free. But 99 percent of people are going to be capitalists or Christians or Democrats or something else I disagree with. And I don't want to close myself off to 99 percent of the world. And I realize that making money or whatever it is that they are doing is their equivalent of my creative energies. Its just what they do. They can do what they do and I'll play with them like I do. I guess I'm just becoming more hedonistic. The unique situation made for some unique fun that I would have paid for.
ps Jared's white bike got stolen. And his jacket wasn't spotted before we got there.
Damm! you all care much about some dude wanting to make an entrance on some bikes.
Just think if you but this much energy into something that really mattered.
If the guy just rode with us, he could of posted it on here have a few hundred ridazz show up with him for free and took the five grand and throw a awesome two day party complete with booze, dope, and food at Tow for everybody. Dude should just hang with us more, instead of trying to buy us.
Congratulations on your win (if you did, I heard you did), your concept, and career. Thanks for giving back to the community that inspired you on this project.
and for the rest of you(this includes me), if you got off the computer quit worrying about what someone else is doing and did something with yourself beside throw out opinions you might come up with ideas and accomplish half of what this guy has.
Damn, I miss the days (like 2009) when the tiny manchild sported a 42cm hybrid - complete with gel seat, suspension seatpost, proper-and-useful-length rizer barz, pant guard for the chainrings, barefoot 'composite' pedals and that wicked red lower rear derailleur pulley. Go back to you roots!
So far the only living celebrity I've seen whose cycling style i really dig is Robin Williams, no shit... he's got the psychedelic colors, the right equipment (except for the junk wheels) and it looks cold out.
Let's put little Leto in context tho and not forget how easy it is to look like a dork on a bike, especially a mountain bike - all that matters is you're having fun and more people are out riding! Yay!
Honestly, I think they key to being an awesome looking celebrity on a bike is to dress well and be photographed in black & white:
Frozen Fingersss is my current favorite poster. And what does foldie know about street cred anyway? He used to to ride a folding bike, doesn't that say enough?
md2 responding to a comment by Frozen Fingersss
09.14.10 - 2:39 pm
WTF!! hahahah even Beckham is riding a fixed gear. jesus.
Look people, we need to have a celebrity bike ride and just crash these people's cribs drink their booze eat their food and swim in they pools. In return we will allow them to be as cool as us.
It is really small. And I am going to strip off some of the parts. So: pretty crappy. Really, it is probably better to think of it as just a frame (i.e. potentially useful for a freakbike).
everyone who made the video possible (all the cyclists) should be getting royalties every time the video is aired. but of course no one is, you're just being exploited. maybe the 25 escorts should just show up looking really boring, or all show up wearing the same thing :)
And by no "thanks to ridazz" I mean when he accepted the award he said nothing about ridazz or cyclists, even though they were the spotlight of the video and it won.
Maybe you should have paid him to pretend to be *your* friend.
PC responding to a comment by jonnyboy
09.14.10 - 4:49 pm
If you're a true anarchist, shouldn't you be fighting everyone, instead of just the man? Everyone and everything that is organized
Please boot up one of those computers that you have been using since before some of the people posting here were born, and look up "anarchism" on a search engine. Thanks.
PC responding to a comment by outerspace
09.14.10 - 4:54 pm
Honestly I would love it but considering all of my shit is in storage and I am currently not living anywhere I should probably not accumulate more shit. Give it to the outerspace.
Related: OBVI the only reason Leto wanted a ridazz escort is because he saw me at the video shoot & said he liked my style* & he needed a way to find me again. He's not trying to pay people to be his friends, he's just irrefutably, impossibly, madly in love**.
Okay, okay, okay, I know - let sleeping dogs lie. But one last thing: Did anyone notice that in the pic of Jared Leto locking his bike that @supersano posted, he's only locking his front wheel?
to like or dislike someones art is their personal opinion. To say it is bad is only to your ears and those that feel the same way. Something tells me many people enjoy this kids music. Bad or good,who cares, its just art.
sexy responding to a comment by PC
09.17.10 - 2:20 am
I don't know why we get this catalog. But any YUPPIE that can afford FLOR tiles, can afford something better than a mix-n-match bike from Urban Outfitters.
The message, it seems, is clear: There is might in masses, a freedom in unity and strength in conviction. And all it takes to harness any of it is will.
I think he meant to say: And all it takes to harness any of it is money and sandwiches
He has it all wrong in practice. People like Roadblock, Richie/Alec, Nathan/Royal Academy, Barleye, etc, harness the masses through "will".
Jared is buying it. That's the truth.
Honestly, I'm not hating. I'm down with Jared trying, but I really think he's out of touch, when he could be very much included.
md2 responding to a comment by ruinedbyidiots
09.17.10 - 11:51 am
I wish this dude would have done what he first talked about. That would have been a site to seen, instead he just rode in with some bicycles. whip-dee-do!
UFO or dancefloor surgery. I would of loved to have seen that.
sexy responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
09.17.10 - 6:45 pm
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Ridazz Roulette!
he's got the psychedelic colors, the right equipment (except for the junk wheels) and it looks cold out.
Being Rita Hayworth doesn't hurt.
