KLUNKER Run MTB Rally FEB 15th
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adventurich at 02.1.10 - 2:27 pm
Continuing the momentum from the Coaster Brake Challenge the Klunker Run is born!!!
Based in Palmdale exactly 50 miles north of San Fernando Valley (55 minute drive).
PRESIDENTS DAY Monday February 15th
Race starts @ 10am - Sign ups and practice 8am - 9:45am.
Entry $10 includes race, tee shirt, BBQ and awards.
4 CLASSES: Cat 1 being most prestigious! Awards top 3 each division!
Cat 1 - Coaster Brake - No fixed gear - No hand brakes - Single Speed.
Cat 2 - Department store bike (max retail $199.00) NO Modifications - Bone Stock.
Cat 3 - Vintage Mountain Bike (1990 or earlier) No suspension - 24 gears max.
Cat 4 - Single Speed MTB (BMX ok)
Race will be approx 10 laps - 1 hour race time for the winner.
Race course is more than 75% singletrack.
Spectators will be able to see over 50% of the course and encouraged!
BBQ following the event - plan on sticking around!
Directions: 14 Freeway Northbound. Exit Palmdale Blvd - Left (head west 2.5 miles - the name changes to Elizabeth Lake Road). Turn Right on 25th Street West. Turn left on Ave P-12 (1/4 mile). Follow signs to race start up Ave P-12.
Details added daily - web link and flyer soon!
Seeking volunteers/course marshals.
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Great ! can't wait !
Attending secret training camp to prepare.....
Dedicated81802.1.10 - 3:29 pm
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Oh it's on. What bike to bring? The klunker? the 84 fisher? The Huffy? The coaster brake racer? I just don't know!
rev106 responding to a
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02.1.10 - 5:53 pm
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Details are posted up on AtomicCycles dot Com!
adventurich02.1.10 - 7:46 pm
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Crashing your tread
Reseda to the Sea Challenge
Coaster, BMX, Old school, Single speed
FUN RIDE !
Sunday March 7th 10:00 a.m.
Dedicated818 responding to a
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02.1.10 - 7:53 pm
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im down for both of these events! not sure how ill make it to palmdale but ill be there.
reseda to the sea sounds great also.
i wanna thank you guys for putting on these events and if i can be of any help id be happy to do so.
-L.Ron Dingo
mandingo responding to a
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02.1.10 - 8:17 pm
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You can crash at my pad the night before and roll out with me.
rev106 responding to a
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02.1.10 - 8:35 pm
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alright brohter,ill keep it in mind. thanks man
mandingo responding to a
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02.1.10 - 8:39 pm
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Here is the train schedule:
http://www.metrolinktrains.com/schedules/pdf.php?id=581
Pretty simple and 5 miles from the Palmdale Station to the race start.
Union Station 6:35am departure.
Glendale 6:45am departure.
Burbank 6:51am departure.
Sun Valley 6:57am departure.
Sylmar 7:04am departure.
All with an 8:25 arrival time to the Palmdale Station.
Departures @ 1:49pm & 5:59pm.
adventurich02.1.10 - 8:40 pm
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CAT 2 for sure. Do you take it off any sweet jumps?
rev106 responding to a
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02.2.10 - 8:43 am
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Just finishedl aying out the official course. Helmet cam video hopefully tomorrow. One mile long. 10 laps & fast lap times will be 6-7 minutes each. Winning time will be just over an hour I am guessing. Race will end on winners lap meaning that if you are lapped you will do nine laps, lapped twice 8 laps etc. Course is kick ass!!!
adventurich02.2.10 - 3:07 pm
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gonna be muddy!!
I'll try to make it...
By the way, if Cat 1 is the most prestigious, Im confused if Cat 2 is more prestigious than 3 and 4.... and if so... why?
md202.2.10 - 7:49 pm
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Have you ever ridden a magna/roadmaster/next on terrain it's definitely not designed to be on?
mmaceda responding to a
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02.2.10 - 7:58 pm
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Diffuculty. A coaster only bike is the hardest to master, then a dept store klunker, then a full rigid vintage mtb, then a single speed. The single speed is last becaue it can be up to date modern and people who ride these tend to be very strong riders.
rev106 responding to a
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02.2.10 - 9:46 pm
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Rich, send me the vid and I'll put it on the website and various message boards.
PAul.
rev10602.2.10 - 10:02 pm
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The issue is not such the intent of design, but longevity....
Dept store bikes will survive the trail... its just which and how many trials that make them useless..... for those who want to continue.
I guess I see vintage as more prestigious than klunker... its hard to shake that... and SS kicks ass, so Im just biased....
I think our resident single speed-coaster brake-huffy gets it right.... but for all other bikes... i dont know
You can modify a klunker overtime to make it trail worthy... and just hope welds hold and such, but todays klunkers aren't too far off from Vintage MTBs (given the bike).
I guess if your vintage ride is decked out in XTR with anodized pink everything... we're talking about two different things... but modern dept store bikes are kind of using vintage equivalent stuff now (unless people show up on vintage beauties)
Is Shimano 200GS really much better than todays dept store bike?
Maybe im wrong... either way.... im hoping to make it to the ride.
md2 responding to a
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02.3.10 - 8:07 am
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I fix both and dept store bikes are way worse, my 84 fisher is one of the best bikes I've owned.
rev106 responding to a
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02.3.10 - 6:23 pm
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Not as nice as a Fisher
Pro Caliber ?
Building retro racer Trek
just finished the ganja camo paint job.
No shocks, 18 speeds, cantilever brakes,
super low budget, all used parts
Dedicated818 responding to a
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02.3.10 - 6:34 pm
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excalibur bone stock w/bull moose bars
rev106 responding to a
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02.4.10 - 8:29 am
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That bar set up is cool
Those bikes rail on the fire road DH
The slack angles and long wheel base gives a smooth ride.
Dedicated818 responding to a
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02.4.10 - 1:13 pm
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Here is a link to a lap with the helmet cam.
Video edit quality is pretty shitty but you can still get an idea of what we are doing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXlqDXyGc5M
adventurich02.4.10 - 11:52 pm
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YEH JDMJD KSJFE JF JS8JDJD LDKF J IFJID R ;LTH HTGVT SJ E KDJJNFT YRKFDD HHD JEJRH YE S DSHU JSD. JEKJ AJL !!!!
-L.Ron Dingo
eddieboyinla02.5.10 - 7:29 am
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Just added the vid to the website.
Rich,
I'll bring the number plates and score sheets, what else?
rev106 responding to a
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02.5.10 - 7:44 am
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How you get one of these trophies:
1. Show up ready to race. Most groups will be a few riders each so your chances are good from the start.
2. Finish. People will drop out, moving you up in the rankings. Keep pedaling!!
rev10602.7.10 - 6:57 pm
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Paul - the awards are awesome!
Groomed the entire course yesterday.
Even a day after heavy rains no ruts or mud puddles.
It is the BEST that it has ever been!
Can't wait for Monday!
adventurich02.8.10 - 12:22 pm
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Sure hope this secret training camp pays off.
Those are some sweet trophies.
Dedicated818 responding to a
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02.8.10 - 12:39 pm
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Is that a secret ninja training camp?
rev106 responding to a
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02.8.10 - 4:28 pm
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I AM VERY EXCITED FOR THIS, GUYS
mmaceda02.8.10 - 6:24 pm
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He paid me, all is well.
rev106 responding to a
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02.8.10 - 8:18 pm
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It's so secret that I can't give out that info.
Dedicated818 responding to a
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02.8.10 - 8:45 pm
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oh fuck! mugs! monday is gonna rule.
mmaceda responding to a
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02.9.10 - 12:35 pm
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We have had a huge response back for the Klunker Run!
Great family event! Invite all of your friends and family. Even if you don't plan on competing come out and share in the festivities & check out some local riding spots!!!
We originally planned it for the eccentric side of the mtb community but we have had so many requests for "standard mountain bikes" that we are going to run an additional wave as Cat - 5 "Open Class". Cat - 5 Open class can be ANY non-motorized bicycle.
Sign ups will be from 8:00am - 10am (signups close promptly at 10am - no exceptions - signups and scoring = same people!).
The Open Class will run immediately after the Klunker/Single Speed classes. Entry fee is $10 entry fee and includes a tee shirt.
If you decide you want to run the Open Class after finishing the Klunker/Single Speed class you are welcome - free entry for second class.
Weather should be perfect and with the current rain trails are dialed!
BBQ during and after the races so plan on sticking around!!!
adventurich02.9.10 - 5:44 pm
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I have two bikes available as loaners.
mmaceda02.9.10 - 7:35 pm
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Just to be sure...
$10 race fee...
If you're not racing (friends or fam), what is the fee for the BBQ? $10?
Thanks
Im hoping to make it... How many SS CAT 4 sign ups thus far?
Not sure if want to ride vintage or SS...
Peace
md2 responding to a
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02.9.10 - 7:43 pm
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those mugs are damn cool rich!
i find out tomorrow what my work schedule is for next week.if im scheduled for monday ,than thats gonna suck...
...for trader joes! cause im gonna have to be sick that day.
i gotta clean up the huffy.its still a little muddy
looks like im gonna be rolling out there with my old lady, and hopefully my daughter .
see you cats later
mandingo02.9.10 - 8:35 pm
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remind me to bring those pedals...
Im going to try to get out there with this lady I live with and that kid thing too...
I wish it were a closer ride, but it this sounds like fun so I want to hit it up...
md2 responding to a
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02.9.10 - 9:28 pm
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ha! its funny how similar our situations are.
and yeah, ill try to remind you about the pedals.hope you can make it.
mandingo responding to a
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02.10.10 - 12:11 am
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Oh man... I so want in on this.
Question 1- I'd be racing on Polo Bike. What category would she go in? She's a standard Target bike, but I've stripped off the entire shifting system and the rear brake. I've also replaced the cassette a coupe of times (kept breaking teeth), and I just put on a SS cog and chain, although I might switch back to my most recent cassette and (the original) chain for the race. And the wheel covers shouldn't be an issue, right?
Question 2- Paul, would you have room for one more? If not, who wants to take the train with me?
danya02.10.10 - 12:32 am
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1) CAT 5 if you add shifters. CAT 4 if you leave it a SS. It would be CAT 2 w/o modifications and if you paid less than 199.99
If you run it a SS make sure you have something around a 2:1 ratio. If you're a really strong SS rider you can probably go a bit beyond 2:1. It really depends on the amount of elevation. I havent looked at the course. Might be good to bring an extra cog and chain when you see the course.... but again, its supposed to be a fun ride....
Riding up hill on trails if far different than street; it is harder, slower and if you lose traction you want to be able to start pedaling again... so a 2:1 works well in most Los Angeles area trails for general SS riders. Of course there are some really strong riders who ride closer to 2.25:1+
Wheels covers will probably be a disadvantage in speed, but I dont see a significant problem outside of that, as long they dont fall apart and litter the trail.
Do you have knobbie tires?
md2 responding to a
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02.10.10 - 7:22 am
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So far I'm riding alone. However I'm leaving at 6 am. So if you want a ride you'll have to be at my place by 5:30 am
rev106 responding to a
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02.10.10 - 9:06 am
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She's currently got a 1.45 ratio, although I'll probably try to make something more like a 1.9 work. I'm certainly not going so far as to put shifters back on my polo bike, that's AZ's sort of thing.
I've got the original knobby on the front and a slick on the rear wheel, and I know all about the disadvantages of wheel covers, I just thought I'd list them as one of my bike's modifications.
I guess I wasn't really clear on my original question- I'd like to ride in CAT 2, so would the mods listed be too much?
danya responding to a
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02.10.10 - 9:09 am
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Sarah, you'd be racing CAT4 on that bike.
also, coverage on All Hail the Black Market:
http://www.allhailtheblackmarket.com/2010/02/a_crystal_ball_by_any_other_na.html
mmaceda responding to a
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02.10.10 - 9:24 am
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Just buy a new dept store klunker and return it when you're done.
rev106 responding to a
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02.10.10 - 9:35 am
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Course notes for gearing.
I recommend running easier than 2:1 gearing.
Something like 36x20 is probably a better choice.
The climbing is 2/3 of the course and you wont need to pedal much on the descent.
adventurich02.10.10 - 9:43 am
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You guys should add the CAT 5 to the other blogs and AC website.
Also, do you guys needs anything? Potluck?
Also, Im assuming the race will have CAT 1 and 2 at 10am, and then Cat 3 and 4 at 11am. Followed by Cat 5?
So we wouldnt be able to ride Cat 3 and 4, right?
md2 responding to a
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02.10.10 - 7:50 pm
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if you want to bring anything for a potluck that would rule!
We will have a BBQ with hot dogs and burgers.
Cat 1,2,3 & 4 All start together at 10am.
Cat 5 (open class) will start immediatly after the 1-4 race finishes.
If you race in the 1-4 race you are totally welcomed to race Cat 5 if you want.
Signups for all races close at 10am.
One other note. I think the fast lap times will be about 7 minutes. 7 minutes x 10 laps is one hour ten munutes. All riders will finish on the lead lap - meaning that if you are lapped you do 9 laps, lapped twice you do 8 laps etc. This will have everyone riding for the same amount of time. Again my guess is a little over an hour for the winner and under and hour and a half to the last finisher on the course.
adventurich responding to a
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02.10.10 - 8:07 pm
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All 4 CATs at once... thats gonna be a dope race... I so hope all 4 CATs have a enough riders... too bad the rain stopped... add some mud to circus...
There should be like a figure 8 section where riders have to cross the intersection... you know like they do with demolition cars...
Anyhow... thanks, this seems real cool...
I hope I can help with future events... this is exactly what needs to happen more in Los Angeles
md2 responding to a
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02.10.10 - 9:37 pm
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I'm going alone if anyone wants a ride from the Echo Parque area. Let me know. Unless you're competing in the vintage bike castegory, then find your own way. Heh heh. ~Boogey
Boogey100Fires02.12.10 - 3:31 pm
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We have worked on the trails all week and I have to say the course kicks ass!!!
I suggest easy gearing for sure. I have a 30x18 on the coaster right now.
I would say 36x20 would be a good choice (if in doubt go easier).
Not too much downhill pedalling - fair amount of climbing.
The climbs are all easier than Coaster Brake Challenge #3.
Make sure that your bike is tuned up and tight!
adventurich02.12.10 - 5:25 pm
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Question
1990 marin pine mountain, has suspension, but can lock out,
Ey?.....EYyyyy?
I knew I shouldve boughten those purple ridig forks for it :(
angrytoaster3002.13.10 - 10:32 am
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No matter what bike you bring we'll have a classfor it.
Trails are perfect weather is amazing - gonna be sick!!!
adventurich02.13.10 - 10:54 pm
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See you all then. I still have room in my car fo a passenger but I'm going to leave early, so let me know.
Paul
Atomic Cycles.
rev106 responding to a
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02.14.10 - 7:05 am
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Damn! I just found out that my "vintage" bike was actually made in 1995!!
FAIL FAIL FAIL!!!
Oh well, I'll probably still make it out to get some air with the doggiez and support other ridazz!!
Boogey100Fires02.14.10 - 9:27 am
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I'll be there, Polo Bike in tow! 5:30, you said? And at the shop or your house?
danya responding to a
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02.14.10 - 12:41 pm
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My pad, But we don't need to leave so early. Be there by 6:45 at the latest.
7438 Etiwanda
Reseda
CA
91335
rev106 responding to a
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02.14.10 - 5:44 pm
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race after valentines day?? I'm gonna be jacked up tomorrow... I already buzzed and full of chocolate...
anyhow, Im planning on bringing a cooler with some brews and maybe some snacks....
Not sure how many will be showing, but Ill try bringing some stuff to help with the BBQ....
Is the BBQ at the same spot?
What ever the case... please find a way to create a 11th place trophy.... I can't let the my boy down....
Thanks...
see you guys tomorrow
md202.14.10 - 8:34 pm
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wow... when are we getting grammar check on here...???
md202.14.10 - 8:36 pm
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Directions (one more time)
From San Fernando Valley
14 freeway north.
Exit Palmdale Blvd left (head west 2 1/2 miles).
Turn right on 25th Street West (about a quarter mile)
Turn left on Ave P-12 (about a uarter mile to gate)
Folllow signs from gate about 1 mile to start.
Spectating, BBQ, Start and Finish all in the same location.
adventurich02.14.10 - 11:05 pm
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Pictures of the course from today.
See what you get to ride - or what you are going to miss!
adventurich02.14.10 - 11:07 pm
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those pictures look like its gonna be a fun time rich.looks like its gonna be a gorgeous day out there tomorrow.later on today i should say.
mandingo02.15.10 - 1:24 am
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Where are you Sara? It's 6:45, I'm leaving without you.
rev106 responding to a
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02.15.10 - 6:44 am
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gonna be dope... see you all soon
md202.15.10 - 7:01 am
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Sorry about that- major fail.
I was too excited to fall asleep last night, so I didn't end up passing out until 5 a.m. or so.
:(
Hope you guys are having fun, I hope to join you next time.
danya responding to a
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02.15.10 - 1:45 pm
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So Stoaked 2nd place ! Vintage
What a great event !
Top par course.
T shirt and a cup and a trophy and burgers !
Who ever didn't show missed out.
Dedicated81802.15.10 - 3:17 pm
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amazing job rich and paul and all those who helped out with their time to keep score, make tshirts, trophies, mugs, burgers, and build that awesome course!
2nd place coaster brake.
definitely worth the trip up, thanks for an excellent event!
cassidy responding to a
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02.15.10 - 4:33 pm
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Great time guys! Awesome course, great people. Nice trophy, mug and shirt! And the FOOD! Yeah.
rev106 responding to a
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02.15.10 - 5:25 pm
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Rich, Paul, you guys are amazing. Thanks goes out to everyone that made this possible. I love my klunker run shirt!
THE DIRT
THE FEAR
THE FOOD
mmaceda responding to a
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02.15.10 - 7:06 pm
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Again, thanks Rich, Paul, and all other volunteers; they made the ride so much fun.
That was seriously a fun course.
mmaceda, whats up with the "dirt bag races" (is that what you called them)? We should start scouting L.A..
peace.
md2 responding to a
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02.16.10 - 7:20 am
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I just have to say if Atomic Cycles holds an event it is in your best interest to show up. Some of the best cycling events that I have been to in my life. Thanks to all who came out, supported and helped! Super fun day!
adventurich02.16.10 - 1:49 pm
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front page news .thats awesome.
thanks rich,paul,rich's wife for the great bbq and all the rest of the people that put it together.it was one heck of a course and my morning coffee tastes great when drinking it out my new mug. thanks fellows
mandingo responding to a
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02.16.10 - 5:29 pm
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I'm going to try ordering a copy; my son will have fun with the paper and his silly putty.
Coffee tasted the same in my mug, but I did find myself walking around the office drinking coffee more than ever today.
md2 responding to a
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02.16.10 - 7:42 pm
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ha! that little BLUGGH! at the beginning is me getting shoved by paul whilst trying to awkwardly run to my bike.
"I GOT IT!"
mmaceda responding to a
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02.16.10 - 8:23 pm
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Thanks Rich & Paul for a super fun day !
I placed 3rd in Vintage class behind dedicated818, in my first bicycle race of my adult life.
Sweet single-track mixed with friendly competition, add bbq+tshirt...Wow what a great event.
Thanks again,Dennis
2trax02.16.10 - 9:07 pm
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Rich get me a copy of that could you?
Thanks!
Paul.
rev106 responding to a
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02.17.10 - 8:20 am
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what did you shoot this with?
also
http://www.midnightridazz.com/viewPhoto.php?artistId=797&galleryId=41848
this thing looks fuckin crazy!
KiMS1 responding to a
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02.17.10 - 12:30 pm
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my girlfriend shot it with her canon point and shoot.
@rev106- i burned the pics onto a cd .she took close to 400 pics so theres shots of everyone.i should be able to drop it off tomorrow..
mandingo responding to a
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02.17.10 - 7:21 pm
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PICS!!!!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/17534977@N00/
rev106 responding to a
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02.23.10 - 9:39 am
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LOL dang Rich can't run any faster than that??
la duderina responding to a
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02.23.10 - 9:48 am
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looks like it was really fun. what's up with the reseda run? can I do it on my piece of shit mountain bike?
Roadblock02.23.10 - 10:27 am
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