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Bullhorn bar
Thread started by Stryker at 07.28.09 - 10:56 pm

Hi all,
I'm trying to get a bullhorn bar.
I'm 5' 11" and I have 57cm Bianchi pista.
I choose one from Nitto bullhorn bar but I don't know which size fits perfect to me.
There're 40cm and 42cm width.
Which one should I go for?
Please let me know~~

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you should go to a bike store and see which one fits more comfortable for you.



mes0suave
07.28.09 - 11:03 pm

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the one as wide as your clavicles or closets to that width.





Gav
07.28.09 - 11:04 pm

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find a size that's about as wide as your shoulders.



DAYLO
07.28.09 - 11:05 pm

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Thanks guys! I really appreciated!



Stryker
07.28.09 - 11:08 pm

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pursuit bars



robin swabin
07.29.09 - 12:32 am

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chop the drops and flip em



sancho1
07.29.09 - 8:04 am

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This is an excellent way to make sure you have less available comfortable hand positions while simultaneously letting everyone know your cruising around on your very first poseur fixie.



dokydoky
responding to a comment by sancho1
07.29.09 - 9:12 am

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"while simultaneously letting everyone know your cruising around on your very first poseur fixie."
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are you f'n serious?

Please explain a bit more about "poseur fixies"
I'd love to hear...

so DokyDoky....what are the viable options to not be a poseur fixie? there are drops, straight bars, chopped bullhorns, store bought bull horns, cruiser bars, and the small mountain bike style bars....am i missing any? what's legit in your book?

DOKYDOKY...let it fly...




barleye
responding to a comment by dokydoky
07.29.09 - 9:33 am

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Flop and chop bullhorns are a very poor imitation of proper bullhorn handlebars.

Poor imitation -> wannabe -> poseur.



dokydoky
responding to a comment by barleye
07.29.09 - 9:47 am

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this fuckin guy right here.

DIY OR DIE



mmaceda
responding to a comment by dokydoky
07.29.09 - 9:49 am

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Do It Yourself, but only if you can Do It Right.

A pair of drop handlebars with hooded brake levers is a design that's been refined over the course of many years. It offers many hand positions, most of which offer access to the brake levers. You have deep in the drops for maximum aerodynamics, you have a postion not so far in the drops for some aerodynamic advantage, while still retaining immediate access to your levers, you have the position on the hoods for a very comfortable all-around riding position, and finally you have the corners and flats, which are comfortable, but offer very poor access to the brake levers.

And then you have flop-and-chops. You deliberately eliminate all but the last two, and create a new position, a very uncomfortable one, by the way, owing to the very short forward extension that was not designed with this combination of mutilation and reortientation, which, if the user re-uses the original levers (which I presume is required under your militant DIY ethic), is the only position with unfettered brake lever access.

Most proper bullhorns offer many comfortable hand positions, albeit not many with good brake lever access, however this is owing to their intended use in situations where aggressive aerodynamics are desired.



dokydoky
responding to a comment by mmaceda
07.29.09 - 10:04 am

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puuh-lease. just say that chop and flops look fucking stupid and carry on.



mmaceda
responding to a comment by dokydoky
07.29.09 - 10:11 am

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Meh, I woke up earlier than I wanted to, couldn't get back to sleep, got nothin' better to do, might as well scribe a diatribe against flop-and-chops.



dokydoky
responding to a comment by mmaceda
07.29.09 - 10:16 am

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" you have the position on the hoods for a very comfortable all-around riding position"

Which would be exactly the position that flop and chops mimic, which combined with their affordability, makes them a good choice for the cyclist on a budget, which is most of the folks on this board.



JB
responding to a comment by dokydoky
07.29.09 - 10:47 am

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If you had read the rest of my post you would have seen the part of my post where I addressed how uncomfortable that position is on bullhorns. I also addressed how unflopped, unchopped drop bars are superior to flop-and-chops. Leaving them as-is is a fine solution for the cyclist on a budget.

Furthermore, the OP was considering purchasing a new pair of Nitto bars, so I assume his budget will accommodate a new pair of handlebars just fine.



dokydoky
responding to a comment by JB
07.29.09 - 11:05 am

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what...a ... douche bag!



sancho1
07.29.09 - 11:05 am

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i have only seen one pair of decent looking flip and chops - they were on one of djneights bianchis.
every other pair has been cut at such a worthless angle, it makes them nearly unusable, unless youre hugging the stem.



ruinedbyidiots
07.29.09 - 11:07 am

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I cut mine to mimic the direct position of the brake hoods on my road bike. and brakes on a fixie??? who needs em, ???? hahahah



sancho1
07.29.09 - 11:12 am

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Unless you're extremely lucky, no bar will fit you "perfect". The options you listed arent anything to stress over.

to answer your question:
Go with a wider bar if you're running a single speed (my opinion).

I agree with most others, just cut a pair of road bars and flip them. Plus you'll know if you really want bulhorns or not. I dont like them; they are too limiting.

Dont worry about the poseur issue, its usually people who fork out the $$$$ to not look like a poseur who end up being a poseur. But what does that matter, just ride your bike and have fun. Ride with brakes.



md2
07.29.09 - 11:14 am

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When I built my first fixed gear, it was a pretty ugly affair, I made mistakes, and I learned from them. I even considered making my own bullhorns out of regular drop bars. Thankfully I had a look at how the handlebars felt when they were upside-down before I made the effort to cut them, and I realized what a terrible idea it was! Being that I didn't feel like buying anything new at this point, I simply left the handlebars mounted normally, uncut, and it was just fine.

I think the douchey thing to do would be to allow people to make mistakes without warning them.



dokydoky
responding to a comment by sancho1
07.29.09 - 11:15 am

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I've seen plenty of people riding happily with them, and I've compared flop and chops to the actual factory bullhorns, and the geometry is remarkably similar on some models.

Build and ride what makes you happy.

Take the poseur bike snob routine elsewhere. At least BSNYC has a sense of humor.



JB
07.29.09 - 11:17 am

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Like warning them that they will look like a poseur?



mattspeed
responding to a comment by dokydoky
07.29.09 - 11:23 am

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what are you so worried about? its weird.

I agree, if you're on a budget, just leave the drops. If someone wants bullhorns, and want to cut drops, then go ahead--its their bars after all.

There isnt much on the line as far as mistakes. You either cut too much, and ruin a set of drops, or end up not liking them and wasting a bar--its their bar (but the person never said they had a pair of drops, so whats the point?)



md2
responding to a comment by dokydoky
07.29.09 - 11:24 am

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If you refer to my post at 1:16 PM you'll see I already addressed the issue of humor with regards to long-winded critiques of homemade handlebars. In retrospect, I realize that the etymology of the word "diatribe" makes it particularly appropriate for this series of posts. Diatribe comes from the Greek roots dia-, "completely." and tribein, “to wear away, spend, or waste time,” “to be busy," and finally, "to rub." The significance of the first two should be readily apparent with the context of that post, but it is the third that particularly tickles me, as rubbing implies masturbation, and that's basically what I'm doing here.



dokydoky
responding to a comment by JB
07.29.09 - 11:25 am

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Dude, did you swap your adderal for a thesaurus?



JB
responding to a comment by dokydoky
07.29.09 - 11:27 am

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dokydoky has a ten pitch drivetrain. listen to him.



ruinedbyidiots
07.29.09 - 11:28 am

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agreed! just get out and ride as long as it is a safe rig no matter what it looks like and it was legally obtained. oh yeah, I sure am glad some corporation didn't try to buy in to this poseur cut of drop bar fad. ooops.



sancho1
responding to a comment by JB
07.29.09 - 11:32 am

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I just compared my spare bullhorn bar with drops+hoods on my road bike. The angle of the bullhorns is pretty close the hoods, with the levers perpendicular to the ground, and I have been able to grip them like bullhorns. The only difference is that the bullhorns extend further forward by like 1cm. Keep in mind my bike has STI levers, so I don't know how regular brake levers would compare to bullhorns because I haven't had them since my old bike got wrecked.

in my opinion, drops > flop'n'chops

when I had bullhorns I really didn't like how limited I was with hand positions. The bullhorns were alright for short rides but they sucked when I was riding for several hours.



Gav
07.29.09 - 11:37 am

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