Cyclists Shot...
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md2 at 04.30.10 - 4:32 pm
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/04/concerns-grow-over-la-bike-thefts.html
The concerns about bike thefts in Los Angeles increased Friday as LAPD detectives said they are searching for two men who are responsible for shooting two cyclists who fought the robbers in Koreatown.
One of the victims was so badly wounded during the April 4 robbery that he was only released from the hospital last week, police said.
“They nearly killed him,” said LAPD Det. Dennis Bopp, who is investigating the shootings. “It was a crime of opportunity that turned to violence.”
The shooting unfolded about 3.a.m., when the two victims stopped to get food from a catering truck at Pico Boulevard and Westmoreland Avenue. The victims left their bicycles unguarded nearby. As the men bought food, two men walked up and grabbed their bikes.
The cyclists saw their bikes being wheeled away, chased the robbers and began struggling for control of the bicycles, Bopp said.
One of the robbers pulled out a handgun and shot one of the victims in the ribcage. Then, as they rode off, he shot the second cyclist in the shoulder.
The shooting comes as the LAPD reported a 29% increase in bike thefts last year compared to 2008. Nearly 2,000 bikes were reported stolen last year in Los Angeles -- and authorities believe the actual number of thefts was much higher because so many people don't report stolen bikes.
-- Richard Winton
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fuckk,thats around the corner where I stay at.
Huey55504.30.10 - 4:36 pm
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More outlaws packing heat and not giving a shit.
I'd hate to be the lawyer representing these pissbags.
bentstrider04.30.10 - 4:48 pm
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I really hope people read things posted like this ...
OsnapsonJC04.30.10 - 4:51 pm
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you guys do know it was two of our very own RIDAZZ???
i didn't want to post anything because up to today all of it was just a rumor. but this confirms it.
AIDS6604.30.10 - 4:56 pm
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Yup that's what I heard from somebody on one of the rides. I actually met them a couple times before. It fuckin sucks...
BWiize04.30.10 - 5:06 pm
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I'm beside myself with anger right now.That is terrible.I hope who ever the victim is he heal quicky.If anybody on here knows who did this they should report it.Stealing and robing is wrong,but shooting someone over a bike,now that takes a real piece of shit.I bet that kid makes his Momma proud.Doesn't even have the balls to jack a car like a real gangsta.
blackout_blacklung04.30.10 - 5:07 pm
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l don't know whats scarier; the fact that someone would shoot someone else for a bike or that were just now finding out.
Rage04.30.10 - 5:09 pm
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sorry, it doesn't take balls to jack a car...
it takes more balls and ovaries (and brains) to get a job and buy your own stuff...
adrian responding to a
comment by blackout_blacklung
04.30.10 - 5:21 pm
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No no you are completely right.Good to see that out of everything I just typed that is the only point you picked up on.
blackout_blacklung responding to a
comment by adrian
04.30.10 - 5:26 pm
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If someone knows them we should organize a visit when theyre well enough?
buckchin04.30.10 - 5:28 pm
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i'll work on it, i'll post either a ride, or circulate a get well card at rides.
AIDS66 responding to a
comment by buckchin
04.30.10 - 5:32 pm
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Im thinking, are these other riders looking for parts or just thieves flipping bikes? But if you're gonna shoot someone over a bike in order to flip it.... god damn, imagine buying parts off these people... what kind of risk / profit is this?
Cars were different, that was a whole other price bracket... but bikes? I doubt these were pro level rigs. I mean, it's nothing new (recall people getting jacked / shot for sneakers?), but it just reminds us how insanely stupid some people are... a fucking bicycle?
Bike culture is increasing so much... the blessing and the curse.
This just fucking sucks.
md204.30.10 - 5:32 pm
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Cyclists need to start retaliating against thieves. The cops don't do shit.
palucha6604.30.10 - 10:00 pm
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Retaliation really isn't a good answer. These two guys got shot for trying to stop the theives when they could have (probably) avoided it by locking up the bikes, even for a short food stop.
will04.30.10 - 11:05 pm
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what i have feared over the last year and a half finally came true in this post.
more scary, these kids who "got away" with the robbery and shooting probably think they got "juice" now and may be quicker to pull the trigger.
tfunk40804.30.10 - 11:07 pm
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valid point but being terrorized into that kind of fear/worry that i have to lock up when i'm at a taco truck is the wackness.
tfunk408 responding to a
comment by will
04.30.10 - 11:09 pm
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didnt your bike get stolen? dont you live in the same apartment complex as the person who took it? didnt you not do shit about it? yeah, thats what i thought.
ruinedbyidiots responding to a
comment by palucha66
04.30.10 - 11:12 pm
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I disagree. It's just a bike. It's not worth possibly losing your life over.
The cops have been cracking down more in a larger way.
http://www.midnightridazz.com/forums.php?topicId=14818&pgnum=1
Joe Borfo responding to a
comment by palucha66
04.30.10 - 11:27 pm
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yeah but don't you lose a piece of your life when you someone demands something from you and you just hand it over?
tfunk408 responding to a
comment by Joe Borfo
04.30.10 - 11:31 pm
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Only thing is the fact that these people have most likely blended back into the woodwork and will present themselves by a matter of chance.
Until then, keep them inside when not used, or circle the wagons and cluster-lock when out and about.
One positive thing I could boast about my area is that bicycles seem to be at the bottom of the list when it comes to thievery.
It's all mainly "B and E" up here for now.
bentstrider responding to a
comment by palucha66
05.1.10 - 12:00 am
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Honestly, it's never happened to me, so I don't know.
I can imagine it's really shitty.
Joe Borfo responding to a
comment by tfunk408
05.1.10 - 12:04 am
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These stupid idiots are a disgrace to their families, if it's not your don't touch it! Simple!
Girl Power05.1.10 - 12:07 am
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its a little bit beyond touching here.
Never heard of people getting shot over their bikes before. I hope this isn't a new trend.
Joe Borfo responding to a
comment by Girl Power
05.1.10 - 12:10 am
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We someone needs to come up with is some kind of lojack/microchip that's inside the frame.
BWiize05.1.10 - 1:51 am
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the problem is cost. cost of manufacturing, maintenance, use of hardware/satellites, distribution, reclamation woes. one more thing to consider is getting various police departments to take it seriously. lapd may be on board but what about other pd's.
propositioning lojack to get on this could work but you have to convince them that the market is there.
Also another issue is recovery time. it's is an issue depending where its going. i talked to someone who knows what some theives do with the bikes. they take bikes as a whole to sell the whole bike to scrap yards for money. so dealing with the scrap yards is something to consider. i don't know what their position is on the whole deal. that is just one aspect.
stella responding to a
comment by BWiize
05.1.10 - 2:25 am
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I myself would like to see the police put more sting operations together.Maybe they could even team up with a private group that puts out the bate for them and let's them know where to get the offender,like the 20/20 to catch a preditor series.
blackout_blacklung05.1.10 - 8:09 am
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I saw the video that shows the thief and I recognized the bike. Hope that Garcon and Angel are doing well.
Rage05.3.10 - 11:37 pm
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YES THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKGING
gerson lives at westmoreland and 11th as i believe..... and the bike looks JUST like his shiny orange one..... i'm trying to tell if it has that odd plastic covering around the chain but it's too hard to tell. i haven't seen these guys around for a while........................ shit........... i think this is them......... no wonder he hasn't been answering his phone...
lets just say i'm happy this isn't arizona or we may never have seen 'em again anyway
this sucks so much
superblueman3 responding to a
comment by Rage
05.4.10 - 7:39 am
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I have heard of guns being pulled but not actually being shot ... that is a bit much
OsnapsonJC responding to a
comment by Joe Borfo
05.4.10 - 8:44 am
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No fucking way ... that sucks ....
OsnapsonJC responding to a
comment by superblueman3
05.4.10 - 8:44 am
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Do they have a description of the attackers? I have noticed that the kind of people that are coming into my store are not the same tattooed hipsters but tattoed gansters wanting to ride fixed, I had many burgleries of lowrider bikes and parts until I stopped carrying them, now it seems like fixed gear is the new lowrider.
rev106 responding to a
comment by OsnapsonJC
05.4.10 - 9:01 am
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Damn, whose inviting gangsters to rides?
BWiize responding to a
comment by rev106
05.4.10 - 1:08 pm
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was it really Gerson and Angel?? Duuude that fuckin' sucks!! There cool dudes.. There regular ridazz from taco tuesday.. Hope they make a speedy recovery.. Did they catch the guys who did this?
goosegoose05.4.10 - 1:59 pm
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were is you stores ?
me and my hommies whant to come by and get some fix gear.
in the midel of the nights ha ha
BROWN PRIDE 13 responding to a
comment by rev106
05.4.10 - 2:50 pm
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Paul is not somebody you want to fuck with.
Joe Borfo responding to a
comment by BROWN PRIDE 13
05.4.10 - 3:16 pm
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I just found out man this sucks. I hope they catch the guys. Nothing good comes form ktown
joser_poser05.10.10 - 6:10 pm
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Yeah, I already ran two guys off that attempted to rob me in my shop. Pure comedy.
rev106 responding to a
comment by Joe Borfo
05.10.10 - 6:21 pm
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yes, i know it was at least gerson.... i have someone to testify.... and i'm guessing there's a 90% chance angel was the other.... as he's been MIA since the same time and they always kicked it with eachother
superblueman3 responding to a
comment by goosegoose
05.10.10 - 9:10 pm
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ive had my bike stolen. not hijacked. but ive ran into people trying to mug/ jack me off of the street a couple times. dont be a fucking dumbass and just sitr there and let them take your shit. go into the street, the other way, evade the mother fuckers, i had my really expensive camera and almost got it stolen like last week one block from my house. the d ude walked up to me and i felt something was gonna go wrong. he walked up told me give me everything you have i started wlaking back, told him you aint getting shit then smashed out into middle of the street. started running up and looked back, the fool was right behind me and i just kept running. i woulda gone back fro his ass but i had to call a girl i promised id call when i get back home. luckily we talked for like 20 mins and i didnt go back. if i did i dunnow hat i would have done. but he would have ended up in the hospital thats for sure. just be keen on where your at, who you see, dont act scared, that makes you an easy target. carry something with you. i ususally have a wrench or 2 connected to a bike chain in my pocket at all times. but i recently lost it. lol and before that when id ride BMX i was comming homne from a bike shop when i bought new bars and this dude was on the side walk, my homie passed the guy and stopped me, had a shank in his hand and told me to give him my bike.i picked it up to keep distance between us and i said fuck you and again, and booked it into the street. theives for the most part are stupid as fuck. dont be afraid to run. jdont just stand there and say....duuuuh okey here ya go. get the fuck out of there. dont try to fight them, dont act all tough. just GTFO ASAP. if you cant and they have a knife or something thats not a gun. hit the mother fucker with your bike as a last resort.
north_valley_critical_mass05.11.10 - 2:51 am
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Last year I had my bike stolen at gun point. Reading this brings back that night. Im lucky that those scum bags didnt pull the trigger. I hope the riders make a speedy recovery
john.1305.11.10 - 8:05 am
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i woulda gone back fro his ass but i had to call a girl i promised id call when i get back home. luckily we talked for like 20 mins and i didnt go back. if i did i dunnow hat i would have done. but he would have ended up in the hospital thats for sure.
--so why did you run in the first place? Don't worry, I know you're willing to put guys in a hospital, but why would you run from a guy.... and then return after?
Wait... never mind... i actually don't care.
md2 responding to a
comment by north_valley_critical_mass
05.11.10 - 11:08 am
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because i had to walk home with my camera. and this camera isnt a little point n shoot. its some quality shit. i wasnt about to let this fool get a lucky punch and come up phat.
north_valley_critical_mass responding to a
comment by md2
05.11.10 - 7:39 pm
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man this is fucked up... that's why i always lock my shit up no matter where i go and no matter for how long i'm going to be there... luckily no one has ever tried to actually come up and steel from me... but then again i am a pretty big guy... keep an eye out everyone i hate to say it, but it will probably get worse before it gets better unless something is done to stop these scumbags.
itsdefnit05.11.10 - 9:51 pm
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So when you go on rides not only will you bring spare inner tubes and all that other good stuff but bullet proof vest as well
Glue:.05.11.10 - 9:59 pm
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Man last time some fool tried to jack my bike at the lucy's on pico and union I socked his ass up as he grabbed my bike and was trying to ride away. Fucker pulled out a shank and I grabbed my bike and tossed it at his face. It all happened so quick by the time I knew what was going on I had his homies chasing my ass down the talking about how they're gonna kill me cause this was their barrio. Luckily I booked it with my bike and in one piece. But in that same place a friend of mine was kicking it just trackstanding when some cholo cracked him in the head with a metal pipe and another tried to take his bike but he wouldn't let go so they it him in his hands abd took his bike... and I know that it was the same people in every occasion including this guy getting shot... its the 18th st gangster fucks. They're used taking what they want cause they're strapped up.
boneclaws42 responding to a
comment by Glue:.
09.8.11 - 11:47 am
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If you're over 18 you can legaly purchase a nice semi automatic rifle at gun stores.
I suggest something of the AK 47 variant. This will give you all the respect you need
from the Barrio thugs. Just think they act this way when there is the rule of law.
What is in store when society breaks down similiar to the receint riots in London ?
Dedicated818 responding to a
comment by boneclaws42
09.9.11 - 9:52 am
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Yeah, it's like I always say: there's nothing more convenient for self-defense while riding a bicycle than a big, long, heavy shoulder-fired weapon. Sure, you may laugh...just like they all laughed when I started carrying a 120VAC air compressor around with me to inflate my bike tires. We'll see who gets the last laugh when I get a flat some night in a sketchy area that happens to have a convenient source of AC power nearby, assholes!
PC responding to a
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09.9.11 - 10:11 pm
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