graphic design intern
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SugarHooker at 09.8.10 - 3:16 pm
I'm looking for an intern for a t shirt company i work. It's for school credit only. cool atmosphere. cool shirts. nothing lame. anyone?
must know
*photoshop
*illustrator
* indesign (preferred not required)
email resumes to:
Jenny.lopez.@idefy.biz
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if you want to feed me grapes and fan me in your speedo thats cool too. but i get to call you julio.
SugarHooker09.8.10 - 3:17 pm
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design is not intern work. asking people to design for free is dumb. don't do it.
tinycities09.9.10 - 1:38 pm
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lol yeah its pretty much free design work. I'd love to help but my hands are full right now :(
godmode responding to a
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09.9.10 - 3:08 pm
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I wouldnt dismiss internships so quickly.... it depends on the experience level of the intern... and the level of business and expertise of the designer/firm offering the internship. I spent 8 months as an apprentice as a design shop working for free 3-4 days a week.... it was THE BEST experience I could ever have hoped for. Going to college and doing school projects is one thing, but actually being in the mix of a shop that is doing business and meeting real deadlines with real consequences is an invaluable experience. I worked my ass off and in the process learned skills for a lifetime in fact I probably could have skipped college all together considering how much I learned from seeing projects get done.
Roadblock responding to a
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09.9.10 - 3:22 pm
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I have to agree with tinycities. To each their own but I am a graphic designer for a living and doing production/pre-press/general office stuff as an internship is one thing but design and having your work used commercially is something else. I wouldn't do that for school credit. The posting didn't really make a distinction either way about what the internship consists of.
Students should be careful cos you could very well end up another Carolyn Davidson, the student that designed the Nike logo at just $2 an hour, which was slightly higher than the federal minimum wage in 1971 ($1.60).
graciela responding to a
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09.9.10 - 4:49 pm
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But then, I would assume that for any job she applied for afterward, her entire CV, portfolio and cover letter could consist of "I designed the Nike logo. Swoosh. Hire me."
nathansnider responding to a
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09.9.10 - 6:06 pm
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I completely agree with this.
ive done 4 design internships during school, and even before college, and it was the best thing i ever did, it solidified that i wanted to go into graphic design.
but keep in mind, having interns, for a firm, is generally more work than having an entry level employee. most internships want interns because its cheap labor. but the good internships, that if people seek out, are the ones that want to teach their interns. the best internships i had were ones were i saw how a studio was run, moreso than learning programs. ive just seen a lot of people who respond to these emails, and its generally someone that cant pay, and wants free labor, because to be honest, you and i both know that design is expensive.
this one happens to sound like someone who cant afford to pay a designer. esp with the requirements of half of adobe creative suite.
tinycities responding to a
comment by Roadblock
09.9.10 - 10:49 pm
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having your work used commercially is about the BEST possible thing that can happen to a student. As an apprentice, I got to work on commercial jobs first as scan/coffee monkey, then a photoshop compositor and eventually full album package designer. all the while working for "free". I say "free" but in reality, I was building a professional portfolio with experience that no college student could ever buy. My apprenticeship was not for college credit, in fact my teachers didnt even know about it.... but by the time I graduated my mentors blessed me with a part time job that paid decent money and passed off projects on the side that they didnt want including one seemingly throwaway job that eventually brought me to Seoul South Korea to paint a mural on one of the country's most prominent music producer's studios for a lot of money and an absolutely amazing experience! I will never ever forget that life experience. This was barely a year after I graduated from an argue-able sub-mediocre (at the time) design program at CSUN... in other words if I had just stuck to my guns and demanded money for an internship up front I'm not sure where it would have gone....
The trick is finding the right place to apprentice. Dont bother so much with school programs. Find a small studio that puts out good work. I didn't go through CSUN for my apprenticeship instead I worked a connection and got LUCKY and basically threw myself onto this little shop in Hollywood probably annoying the hell out of them at times but offering myself to do everything. They were designing all my favorite albums and logos so I had ultimate respect for them. In other words find that studio you love and just camp out until they take you under their wing and work it for all it's worth.
as for that Nike logo designer.... can you imagine the portfolio piece? Who has THAT in their portfolio. She ended up working for Nike and was rewarded with quite a gift including Nike Stock and a diamond ring....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolyn_Davidson
...and retired 10 years ago............. was she used? Maybe.... but she has one of the most recognized logos in the world in her portfolio.. that's worth literally millions if you work the right angles.
Roadblock responding to a
comment by graciela
09.10.10 - 1:00 pm
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im sorry i just really don't agree with that. for every one designer thats getting stuff like you got, theres 25 others just get used without paid. its not worth it.
tinycities09.10.10 - 3:36 pm
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I give a + 1 for Sugarhooker, but Jenny
you should advise about what the position would entail and could get a motivated qualified cantidate
nolikedrive responding to a
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09.10.10 - 4:04 pm
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I guess the point is that I didn't "get" anything... I created opportunities and I found the right environment to learn the trade. I did two other internships before I found that shop both of which were paid, and both of which I left fairly quickly because the work wasn't stimulating. To me it was worth it to get paid nothing and build a portfolio with quality commerial jobs than it was to get paid for my time.
and I turned it into a paying gig after said and done. I didn't know anything about Photoshop when I started. By the end I was doing all kinds of shit there from traffic
to archiving to scanning designing managing photo shoots getting rap star's cars washed.... Hahah that's when I discovered just how much the ladies jock when you driving a nice whip. Interfacing with photographers reviewing proofs.... Creating composite scenes for music videos... There's a cake video with my landscape composites made from old pics of France I found in a book. A Nike commercial with a fake brain scan animation on the doctors monitors in the background. Damn! I'm getting all nostalgic... Sorry, back to bikes....
Roadblock responding to a
comment by tinycities
09.10.10 - 4:56 pm
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The internship is for a t shirt company. I would be the one teaching the intern about photoshop and t shirt designs. whoever does it will be learning a lot actually about working as a graphic designer. The enviroment's fun, and the person will be able to be creative and do fun design work.
I agree that there are internships that just use you and don't pay you, hell i've been through that. If your working as an intern, not getting school credit, and not getting paid thats illegal. If your getting school credit then your getting real world experience along with your education. We aren't looking to screw anyone over.
SugarHooker09.11.10 - 3:57 pm
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Awesome thread, very informative.
Rejuvenates my hope reserves.
Thanks... Everyone.
Alfredo responding to a
comment by SugarHooker
09.11.10 - 8:17 pm
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