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Hit & Run in DTLA by White Porsche, Plate 5ZNY307
Thread started by dudeonabike at 01.6.10 - 9:31 am

Commuter down by white Porsche just across Fig from 2nd St tunnel. He's not in good shape. Couldn't move but could talk. Taken away by ambulance. Works for City.

African American female driver stopped, saw the downed rider, said someone should call 911, made a u-turn and drove away.

Officers responded. Officer Marroquin took report from witness--a FIDM student.

Many cyclists (including myself) regularly travel through this intersection so ride safe--and be on the lookout.

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holy crap =(

i can't believe she stopped and said that then just took off

so glad you guys got her license plate number, that chick should be locked up



natefrogg
01.6.10 - 9:34 am

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"saw the downed rider, said someone should call 911, made a u-turn and drove away. "

WTF???



Creative Thing
01.6.10 - 9:34 am

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Seen some pretty nasty crashes there over the years. Definitely a tricky intersection.




sleepy
01.6.10 - 9:44 am

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I live right around there and just passed that intersection not too long ago. I see lots of cyclist at fig and 2nd and fig and 3rd.



Foldie
01.6.10 - 9:45 am

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fuck that i ride that all time

hope the guy is ok





braydon
01.6.10 - 9:58 am

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This is an opportunity to remind everyone on this forum to submit comments regarding the bike plan. The deadline is this Friday. Some ideas for what to say can be found here:

http://soapboxla.blogspot.com/2010/01/citywatchla-las-best-bike-plan-bringing.html



alexdc
01.6.10 - 10:05 am

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Dammit! I'll be downtown in an hour. I will keep my eyes open for this car.
All DTLA riders need to be on the lookout for this car. We must catch her.
The cops won't do it.



hockeyjockey
01.6.10 - 10:06 am

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You're mistaken. The police will apprehend the suspect/assailant. An eyewitness with a description of the driver, car and license plate is the gold standard for reporting an incident. With this information, it's almost certain she will be caught.



alexdc
responding to a comment by hockeyjockey
01.6.10 - 10:12 am

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When are they going to get her? She's already cleaning the damage off her car. Probably contacting a lawyer. Getting her alibi and lies ready. The longer it takes the more time she has to wipe clean any evidence that her car hit a cyclist. The longer it takes the more time she has to come up with a story that she wasn't involved and her car was mistakenly identified. She needs to be apprehended sooner than later. The cops don't have the resources nor the incentive.




hockeyjockey
responding to a comment by alexdc
01.6.10 - 10:17 am

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I hope the dude is ok, too, but the stretcher and neck brace don't bode well. He'll have some injuries for sure.

The best news is that uber-advocate Stephen Box knows him and his family--and now of the incident. We should all be so lucky.



dudeonabike
01.6.10 - 10:17 am

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didn't thedude have a hitnrun aronud here too?



braydon
01.6.10 - 10:18 am

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this sucks!
Somebody on this guy's side should get a private investigator on the case asap.



trickmilla
01.6.10 - 10:22 am

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hope this bia gets caught.



Huey555
01.6.10 - 10:26 am

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It's a great question, "When are they going to get her?" Unless you're listening with a police scanner, you aren't privy to the ongoing investigation. Even with a scanner, it's hard to understand their lingo.

"The cops don't have the resources nor the incentive. " On what basis do you come to this conclusion? You're much better off making statements based on facts than assumptions.





alexdc
responding to a comment by hockeyjockey
01.6.10 - 10:27 am

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I would agree that the police would probably assign few resources to a hit and run if there was no description of the assailant, vehicle or license plate. With these 3 key pieces of information, they will respond effectively and will apprehend the suspect. Whether the DA chooses to and is successful in prosecuting the suspect will depend on many factors. Justice is imperfect and messy. That doesn't mean no one cares.



alexdc
responding to a comment by hockeyjockey
01.6.10 - 10:30 am

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Jesus Fucking Christ! This isn't the time to play "who's dick is bigger". A rider has been seriously injured. Everyone should be looking for the suspect. If you want to sit on your ass and play flame games, do it somewhere else. We all need to think positive thoughts about this injured rider and everyone should be searching the streets for this felonious driver. Also the cops don't have the resources. If they did, they wouldn't keep asking for more money and more cops. That's the facts!



sgrant
responding to a comment by alexdc
01.6.10 - 10:35 am

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sgrant,

That's an interesting viewpoint. I didn't think about it that way.

It's a great idea to assist the police in searching for the suspect. I hope you are successful.

It goes without saying that I hope the cyclist makes a full recovery.

Though I think you're making an incorrect conclusion with the facts you're presenting, you're right, this isn't the place for that discussion, nor for criticizing the police either. Hopefully, you'll take your own advice.



alexdc
responding to a comment by sgrant
01.6.10 - 10:53 am

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I can tell you first hand the cops don't prioritize these kinds of things. that's why we need to be on their asses 24/7



Roadblock
responding to a comment by alexdc
01.6.10 - 10:55 am

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I rise in full agreement!



alexdc
responding to a comment by Roadblock
01.6.10 - 10:58 am

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Porsche = immunity

My ex was hit and run by Don Cornelius of Soul Train
It was clearly him in his Rolls and the plate was identified by witnesses.

The Police went so far as to talk to him, but pressed no charges.

He did give monetary compensation to her out of court.



Dedicated818
responding to a comment by Roadblock
01.6.10 - 11:09 am

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Something tells me the driver of this white Porsche lives downtown--and we'll no doubt be seeing this vehicle on the roads in these parts.

Watch the f out.



dudeonabike
01.6.10 - 11:11 am

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To be clear, the warning in my last post was for cyclists--to watch out and ride aware. Vigilante violence, even against ruthless, law breaking, hit and run drivers, is not condoned.



dudeonabike
01.6.10 - 11:13 am

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dudeonabike do you know if there was any damage to the porsche and what kind of hit it was?




Roadblock
responding to a comment by dudeonabike
01.6.10 - 11:19 am

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RB, don't know that info--I arrived too late to the scene (~ minutes after) to witness that. I've got a phone # of a woman who might tho. I'll keep you posted.



dudeonabike
responding to a comment by Roadblock
01.6.10 - 11:21 am

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Just got word that the victim was taken to Good Sam Hospital. No update on condition tho.

FYI--Hospital's chief is a cyclist himself--and is very good to bike messengers.



dudeonabike
01.6.10 - 11:30 am

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Stephen Box reported on twitter:

SoapBoxLA~ 2nd Street cyclist, hit and run victim, no broken bones, no serious injuries, family is with him, will leave hospital this afternoon

PHEW!

So, 'lil miss white porsche, where are you? Come out, come out, wherever you are....



alexdc
01.6.10 - 1:13 pm

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Why don't people understand that if you hit someone and run away, you are committing a terrible offense?

If you were to stay and face the consequences, then it is totally forgivable.

What is the reasoning going on here? Higher insurance rates vs. serious prison time? I just don't get it.



Joe Borfo
01.6.10 - 1:20 pm

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suspect is identified, address, background and job info is confirmed. is there a contact for the victim this can be sent to?



Roadblock
01.6.10 - 1:40 pm

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Twitter:

SoapBoxLA~ 2nd Street Hit & Run Motorist turned herself in, "I may have hit something. I don't know what."



alexdc
01.6.10 - 1:47 pm

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Roadblock, how did you get ID of suspect?



alexdc
responding to a comment by Roadblock
01.6.10 - 1:49 pm

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We don't know what you are talking about.



FBI
responding to a comment by alexdc
01.6.10 - 1:52 pm

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there is a guardian angel on these boards who's ID shall remain anonymous except by his own admission.

WHEN YOU GET HIT. DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO GET THE PLATE AND A DESCRIPTION OF THE DRIVER

write the info down IMMEDIATELY. DO NOT wait to see if the driver stops before you do this. write the info in blood, text it to yourself if not to a friend, twitter it. DO EVERYTHING in you power to IMMEDIATELY get this information recorded. Leave a message on someone's machine. Your memory will fade if you wait.



Roadblock
responding to a comment by alexdc
01.6.10 - 1:54 pm

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Wow. That was quick. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS get a description of the driver. Without that tiny bit of information the case would more than likely be dropped as anyone could have been driving that car at the time of the accident. Great job to everyone.

It seems as more and more people are taking to the streets on their bicycles, whether for financial, physical or "insert any reasonable rationale here", drivers are becoming less and less sympathetic towards us. I think we need to start talking to our friends and family who aren't daily or frequent cyclists, and who depend on their cars more than any other form of transportation, to let them know that they need to be careful of cyclists... that one day that person could very well be said person's brother, cousin, mother, etc.

I think the movement should begin there. Everyone has/knows someone who rides a bicycle.



-Dexter-
responding to a comment by Roadblock
01.6.10 - 1:56 pm

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speaking of driver hatred towards cyclists, can we all take a minute to report this group to facebook?

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Theres-a-perfectly-good-path-right-next-to-the-road-you-stupid-cyclist/190080667052





alexdc
01.6.10 - 2:12 pm

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LOL, can you run some other plates for me?



alexdc
responding to a comment by FBI
01.6.10 - 2:13 pm

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It's SO fucking important that ALL OF US are vigilant in holding the apparently unmotivated cops heels to the fire and then we have to go through with calling the CA and really really being vigilant about following through with these cases.






Roadblock
responding to a comment by -Dexter-
01.6.10 - 2:14 pm

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Has the driver turned herself into the Police yet? Do we need to do a ride ?



hockeyjockey
01.6.10 - 2:22 pm

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according to

SoapBoxLA~ somebody else in LAPD - 2nd Street Hit & Run Motorist turned herself in, "I may have hit something. I don't know what."



alexdc
responding to a comment by hockeyjockey
01.6.10 - 2:24 pm

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driver apparently turned herself in. perhaps she ran because she was all coked up for her meeting.



Roadblock
responding to a comment by hockeyjockey
01.6.10 - 2:24 pm

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If you want to send Ed, the cyclists who's been hit yesterday, wishes for a quick recovery, you can email him at eduardo@easthollywood.net.

He's on the East Hollywood Neighborhood Council and one of the people who endorsed the Cyclists' Bill of Rights. He is back home with his family and he talked to Stephen yesterday already.



illuminateLA
01.7.10 - 9:34 am

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That and the Fear of God most likely bit her in the ass.

Finally, some sort of tide-turning is occurring on this issue.



bentstrider
responding to a comment by Roadblock
01.7.10 - 9:47 am

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