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Healthcare March Next Sunday
Thread started by JB at 09.6.09 - 5:53 pm

There are a fair number of Ridazz without health insurance and/or who think health insurance is important.

If you're one of them, there are nationwide marches next Sunday in favor of national healthcare . More info at the links below.

http://www.marchforhealthcare.com/

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=118144661546&ref=mf

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I am one of those



apineda
09.6.09 - 6:31 pm

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or you could get a job



professor fate
09.7.09 - 12:02 am

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pff. I know a guy with 2 jobs. one full time, one part time. Neither gives him health insurance.



la duderina
responding to a comment by professor fate
09.8.09 - 5:42 pm

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are there any MR doctors that read this forum?

can you give your side of this health care issue?

i dont think people have any idea on how hard this issue is.



KiMS1
09.8.09 - 6:02 pm

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and again


What Midnight Ridazz is NOT:
-Mean Spirited
-Political
-Commercialized
-Non-inclusive
-Abrasive
-Protest






KiMS1
09.8.09 - 6:03 pm

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canadienne
09.8.09 - 7:02 pm

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but it still doesnt explain on what doctors have to deal with.


there has to be an MD that's an MR rider that can explain his/her side of the story.



KiMS1
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09.8.09 - 7:09 pm

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If the government ran health care, the drug companies wouldn't be able to bribe doctors to prescribe medications that you don't need and that don't even work!

*cough*PFIZER*cough*



la duderina
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09.8.09 - 9:34 pm

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health insurance??? hmm whats that?



Jeff Yess
09.8.09 - 9:41 pm

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what i meant was, do you know how crazy your work load as a doctor would be?

i mean, with all the paperwork they would have to go through, they wouldnt even have time to see a patient.

their productivity would drop like fucking crazy.



and if the public was fucking smart enough, they'd see the doctors BEFORE shit gets real.

the stupid fucking people of the public only go to a doctor when shit hits the fan.

these idiots don't believe in preventive medicine.

if the public kept up on prevention, our problems with the med industry wouldnt be so fucking gnarly.

but no, jonny fatfuck got diabetes because he ate too many burgers, now doctors have to through loads of paperwork and spend time on that shit instead diagnosing patients, etc etc.



and with the deficit we have right now, how is it even possible to get this off teh ground without taxing the folks who make money up the ass?



why the fuck should i get my hard earned dollar taken away because so and so couldnt go on a decent low salt diet?

fuck that.

i'm all about helping my neighbors out in times of need but fuck giving out freebies to fucking bums that cant get their shit together.

i fucking busted my ass off to get decent job that gives me health insurance.

and so can you if you get off ur ass and start being more proactive.

if you're sick, tough shit. you didn't take care of yourself.

learn to live with your actions.


the only exception i have are for folks who had no choice in their actions. people with diseases from birth, etc/



KiMS1
responding to a comment by la duderina
09.9.09 - 5:12 pm

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I could rebut every single point you made but I do not have the time. WHERE IS PC?????


I suggest you go watch the documentary Sicko. ASAP.





la duderina
responding to a comment by KiMS1
09.9.09 - 5:19 pm

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here hear!!



health care should not be a "for profit" venture






Roadblock
responding to a comment by la duderina
09.9.09 - 5:21 pm

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i mean, with all the paperwork they would have to go through, they wouldnt even have time to see a patient.

their productivity would drop like fucking crazy.


Right now, under privatized health care, some doctors get paid by the number of patients they see. Therefore, you get rushed through the office, they prescribe you some pill, and you are done...so they can get to the next patient, run them through the office prescribe them a pill, etc.

Under public health care, there is no such incentive and therefore would probably receive higher quality doctor care


and if the public was fucking smart enough, they'd see the doctors BEFORE shit gets real.

the stupid fucking people of the public only go to a doctor when shit hits the fan.

these idiots don't believe in preventive medicine.

if the public kept up on prevention, our problems with the med industry wouldnt be so fucking gnarly.


What are you supposed to do if you don't have insurance? What if you can't afford a regular check up?

The reality is that health insurance companies don't believe in preventative care either. Are you kidding? That costs money...Health insurance companies have an interest in you being sick. That way you keep buying pills from them. Then when you need surgery they deny you coverage.

Health insurance companies are all about profit, they have zero interest in keeping people healthy.

fucking busted my ass off to get decent job that gives me health insurance.

and so can you if you get off ur ass and start being more proactive.

if you're sick, tough shit. you didn't take care of yourself.


you can't be serious. What about people with cancer? Haven't you ever got a fucken cold?

In addition, YOU have a GREAT interest in keeping the people around you healthy. If the population is all diseased and sick, YOU ARE MORE LIKELY TO GET DISEASED AND SICK.

fucken A they got you with the propaganda.

Seriously watch sicko. I'm not joking watch that shit it will open your eyes





la duderina
responding to a comment by KiMS1
09.9.09 - 5:26 pm

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http://www.whitehouse.gov/live/



Joe Borfo
09.9.09 - 5:28 pm

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if there is no single payer option.... then this "reform" is garbage.



Roadblock
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
09.9.09 - 5:34 pm

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I like what Obama is saying about the public option. Unfortunately, I know that the mainstream media will filter all of his words out...



Roadblock
09.9.09 - 5:46 pm

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Joe Borfo
09.9.09 - 5:46 pm

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'mmmmmmmmmoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!



Roadblock
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
09.9.09 - 5:47 pm

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watch out! he's indoctrinating you! turning you socialiiissst!!!!!!!!!!!!! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



la duderina
responding to a comment by Roadblock
09.9.09 - 5:53 pm

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you made some good points.

ill watch sicko and come back to this.

i really like the point you made on "if all around us are sick, i will get sick."

i have rebuttals as well.

gimme a sec.

hahhaha



KiMS1
responding to a comment by la duderina
09.9.09 - 6:05 pm

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I've decided that the only news channel worth watching is CSPAN. where you can hear the president in his entirety. the filter that is the advertiser supported media is going to twist all his words and intentions up. the man is trying. he is... but he is not the most powerful entity in the world as some would claim he too has to answer to money interests and that makes his job insanely difficult.



Roadblock
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09.9.09 - 6:06 pm

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I wouldn't be surprised at all if he backpedals on the public option. The corporations have a hold on him just like any other president. He's already changed his tune since he first brought it up.

Is DTV supposed to get CSPAN? The only news I get is the bullshit not even worth watching (chs. 2-13). I prefer MSNBC, but that's because I like left-leaning news. hah.





la duderina
responding to a comment by Roadblock
09.9.09 - 6:11 pm

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@ KIMS

also, did you know that we are, what, the ONLY developed, "democratic" country in the world that does not have some sort of Universal health care?

Are you aware that up until fucken Nixon health care in this country was non-profit?


If this public option doesn't go through, I'm looking for jobs in the EU come 2011. fuck this shit hole.



la duderina
09.9.09 - 6:15 pm

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NAU FTW



Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by la duderina
09.9.09 - 6:27 pm

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this is the future...if the corporations have their way..



la duderina
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
09.9.09 - 6:43 pm

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