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Thread started by KiMS1 at 07.14.09 - 2:10 pm

considering many of you are nerdy computer whiz kids (i kid, i kid) i figured i should ask here.



my laptop, its being screwy.

everythign works fine except for these two problems:

1. internet works for a few minutes, then says that it can't find a connection.
i have symantec antivirus and a little red question mark appears next to the symantec icon in the task tray. when clickingon it, says that the "symantec common client http proxy" has been disabled. restart computer. it keeps doing that, dont know how to fix it.

2. the damn computer won't shut down or go to sleep. restarting is fine. but when shutting down or going to sleep, it gets to the "starting sleep/shutting down..." window, and then just freezes



help me internet godzzzz

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Install Ubuntu, and don't use symantec antivirus.

There is also a huge community, and a wealth of information, on the Ubuntu forums, for Ubuntu, and is also helpful for other Ubuntu related and Debian based distributions.



braydon
07.14.09 - 2:16 pm

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should i uninstall symantec?


and if it helps,

i did all the adaware/disk scanning etc.

all that shit.

nothing came up.



KiMS1
responding to a comment by braydon
07.14.09 - 2:18 pm

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and what exactly is ubuntu?



KiMS1
responding to a comment by braydon
07.14.09 - 2:18 pm

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I have no idea, I don't use Windows, Symantec is for Windows right?



braydon
responding to a comment by KiMS1
07.14.09 - 2:20 pm

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It's a free software / open source operating system with a huge repository of more free software to download and install without hassle, and you don't need anti-virus software.



braydon
responding to a comment by KiMS1
07.14.09 - 2:24 pm

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isnt using ubuntu be irrelevant?

i think ubuntu is an OS, which if im correct, means i willhave to reformat everything and start fresh with ubuntu and not windows.

i dont have an external HD and i have like tons of photos on my laptop that i dont wanna lose.



JUNU WHERE ARE YOU!!!!



KiMS1
responding to a comment by braydon
07.14.09 - 2:25 pm

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Your first problem is its a PC!
Your Second problem is all that free porn stuff has sites that make you PC sick lick a BEARDICK at a STD party.

If you were on a mac u could rub n poke everything with your EARDICK without fear of it getting sick!



madmelo
responding to a comment by KiMS1
07.14.09 - 2:26 pm

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Yeah. Delete symantic! That program sucks ass! I use avg free. I haven't had any problems, but then again Im careful with the things I download and the pages I go into (doesn't mean you have to stop dling or look at porn)...



Gizzard
07.14.09 - 2:27 pm

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so basically, use ubuntu after i figure out my current problem.

i get ya.


what about programs i got that was for windows?

like photoshop.

would ubuntu support a windows based photoshop program?



KiMS1
responding to a comment by braydon
07.14.09 - 2:27 pm

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Dude there's lots of porn sites that don't fuck up your computer and still work with high security settings! And the ones that fuck your computer aren't even worth looking at, unless you're really into that nasty shit.



Gizzard
responding to a comment by madmelo
07.14.09 - 2:29 pm

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MAFUGGA, I DONT NEED A NEW COMPUTER OR A NEW OS!!!

HELP ME FIX THIS SHIT SO I CAN READ THE NEWS IN BED!!!




i uninstalled symantec last night. i was going to reinstall and see what happens but i was too sleepy.


im diggin that ubuntu thing, does anybody know if i can use my windows based photoshop with it?



KiMS1
07.14.09 - 2:33 pm

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Or to install Ubuntu to work around the problem. Thin you are able to ask the Ubuntu community answers to your questions, of which may already been covered, rather than a few people on Midnight Ridazz :)

What do you currently use most in Photoshop?



braydon
responding to a comment by KiMS1
07.14.09 - 2:34 pm

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Actually you can just insert the Ubuntu CD, restart, and run off the CD, ala Live CD to read the news, no point in installing it yet. :)



braydon
07.14.09 - 2:36 pm

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would installing ubuntu wipeout my HD?

with photoshop, idk, i do color correction stuff and crop stuff. oh and blurring and spotting here and there for people with blemishes.

nothing major.





KiMS1
responding to a comment by braydon
07.14.09 - 2:37 pm

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maybe i should just cough up 40 bucks, get an external HD, save my shit and reformat the thing.


@melo

yeah dude, my lap top is pretty finnicky. its not a huge piece of shit but it has problems here and there bc i check out really filthy porn.

no, im just kidding.

semi filthy....



KiMS1
responding to a comment by braydon
07.14.09 - 2:41 pm

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Yes you would have to back up all your Data first. you can try doing ipconfig /release followed by ipconfig /renew to reset your IP settings maybe that would help. you should also use AVG instead of Norton I recommend it to all my Clients. I repair Computers/Networks if you need any help let me know i will help you out



fed1431
responding to a comment by KiMS1
07.14.09 - 2:42 pm

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When is this ride?

teehee



jonnyboy
07.14.09 - 2:44 pm

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thanks for the info.


for ipconfig/release and ipconfig/renew

where am i typing this into?






KiMS1
responding to a comment by fed1431
07.14.09 - 2:44 pm

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I haven't installed Ubuntu on a system with Windows previously on it... but from what I hear there are some migration tools. However it will need to reformat the drive to reinstall, so you'll want to make a backup of your files, which is a good idea to do even if you don't reinstall.

You might be able to run Photoshop using Wine, which is a Windows emulator for programs. I run IE6, and IE7 using Wine, for example. I haven't tried running Photoshop using it though.

I would also suggest giving the GNU Image Manipulation Program (G.I.M.P.) a look at for doing color correction, cropping, blurring, dodging, burning, etc. You can install it from the Application's menu in Ubuntu. There is a pretty cool plugin for it, that does liquid rescaling, examples: http://liquidrescale.wikidot.com/en:examples, and there is also a variation of G.I.M.P. that is supposed to replicate the feel of photoshop.... however I haven't used it.... it's called GIMPshop.



braydon
responding to a comment by KiMS1
07.14.09 - 2:48 pm

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Call Eddieboy. problem solved.



GodLovesUgly
07.14.09 - 2:49 pm

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cool man, thanks braydon.

i will definitely look into this.

so bascially,

get external HD, back up music, fotos, etc.

reformat and install ubuntu,

get WINE, see if i can run photoshop.

also check out gimp via ubuntu apps.


yeah??

my heads kinda spinnin hahah



KiMS1
responding to a comment by braydon
07.14.09 - 2:55 pm

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you're asian you should be able to figure this out.



_iJunes
responding to a comment by KiMS1
07.14.09 - 2:55 pm

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goddamn it junu.

im stereotypical biological science asian kid.

i grew up with a lab kit, not a computer.

duhhh.



KiMS1
responding to a comment by _iJunes
07.14.09 - 2:57 pm

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sorry i forgot to include that info.

click on start, then click on run, then type cmd and hit enter
A Shell window should appear and you type the commands in there.



fed1431
responding to a comment by KiMS1
07.14.09 - 2:58 pm

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Ipconfig /realase hit enter then ipconfig/renew hit enter



fed1431
07.14.09 - 2:58 pm

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cool man,

ill try that when i get home.

thanks for ur help



KiMS1
responding to a comment by fed1431
07.14.09 - 2:59 pm

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also, you can just give it a spin by running it off the CD, called the Live CD, which doesn't require reinstalling or doing anything to your hard drive. I think you can even install programs temporarily, and pretty much do everything as if Ubuntu was installed



braydon
responding to a comment by KiMS1
07.14.09 - 3:00 pm

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see im not much of an ubuntu fan. i use gentoo but strictly for the server we run here. in my experience, heavy commercial applications run like shit in VM and waiting for compatability with a few new dlls is a bitch of a waiting game.

its hard to diagnose what the problem could be without actually being in front of it. thats why i dont work IT, cause i dont like dealing with tickets all day.

if you go ubuntu, there is a good chance you'll come back. especially if you're the type to not really care how it works just that it works.

try out the LiveCD demo of ubuntu, if the terminal commands you're not used to doesn bug you, i still forget to su



_iJunes
07.14.09 - 3:03 pm

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Hey if you're serious about fixing this problem.

Something that you have is conflicting with something else you have.

PCs are notorious for this and why I gave up on them... as I used to build them.

But look: it's nothing you did but what you didn't know would happen when two programs like you're symantec and your internet connection got together or maybe something else affected the relationship unknowst to you.

To solve this would take the skills of a master ninja a few minutes just to analyze.

It could be one small registry file that just needs to be deleted... but finding it is the needle in a haystack.

I don't think you want to go there.

My advice is that if you have already spent a few days on the prob... best to cut your losses... make sure your data is backed up... Not just your files... but bookmarks, contact lists, calendars, quickbooks stuff, think about how you use your computer and how it has remembered you. Have all your program install discs accounted for. Or you'll lose the program.

If you're not sure... This is a good lesson.

Losing shit isn't the end of the world.

Once that's on an external.

Format your Hard Drive and reinstall your operating system.

Add one program at a time. Reboot, use and check for any conflicts between to make sure you're not recreating the problem.

This sounds like a lot of work.

It is.

This process gets your computer back up as fast as possible without advanced knowledge of your operating system.

If you still are unsure... hit the phones.

I've spent hours on them talking to Microsoft, symantec, Netgear, adobe, etc, etc.

If they solve it. It comes down to them finding that little erroneous file.

When incidents like this happen... I've learned that your computer is due for some spring cleaning and the mess has gotten so deep you can't even open the door.





Logan...
07.14.09 - 3:04 pm

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Oh, I forgot to add, there is another photo editor (plus more drawing stuff) called < ahref="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krita">Krita.



braydon
07.14.09 - 3:04 pm

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on another note, dont call me a fanboy,

but try out the W7 RTM candidate. 7600 is what im running. it actually runs really really well, and im honestly about to give MS some praise for figuring things out better this time around.

you can find it floating around on torrent sites.





_iJunes
07.14.09 - 3:04 pm

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a href fail, booo

Krita



braydon
07.14.09 - 3:06 pm

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yeah, this what i was expecting to do.

just back up everything and reformat.

i use my computer for really basic shit

email, photoshop, music, and typing up documents.

thats it.

as long as the thing works, i dont really care.

i knew i should have bought an external HD awhile ago.

i would have just reformatted in the first place but iddnt have my paws on one.



KiMS1
responding to a comment by Logan...
07.14.09 - 3:08 pm

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Yeah Gentoo is cool, but I wouldn't recommend it on the Desktop unless you really want to configure your system. Portage (emerge, or whatever it is called) is a pretty amazing software package manager.



braydon
responding to a comment by _iJunes
07.14.09 - 3:09 pm

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mike, download the windows 7 7600 RTM candidate,

to a clean install

tadaaaa all your files and clutter is still there, with new registry files, just run some kind of automated clean up program and i'm sure it will clean up the old registry files no longer used.

easiest 2 hour solution.

smoke me a bowl and i'll come do it for you



_iJunes
responding to a comment by braydon
07.14.09 - 3:12 pm

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You really don't need to do any terminal commands in Ubuntu. Only if that's how you prefer to run things, or if you start getting into more serious configuration.



braydon
responding to a comment by _iJunes
07.14.09 - 3:13 pm

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mike, forget about gimp. it sucks balls compared to photoshop.



Donny
responding to a comment by KiMS1
07.14.09 - 3:14 pm

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macs are pc's too

pc = personal computer

as opposed to business systems like the ibm mainframe



snowcone
responding to a comment by madmelo
07.14.09 - 3:17 pm

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don't hate on the gimp because you don't know how to use it, for my purposes, i actually find produces superior results

you are just familiar with photoshop and something different which you will have to learn is scary and you don't like it



snowcone
responding to a comment by Donny
07.14.09 - 3:18 pm

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i remember back when ubuntu was primitive, like pre hardy heron i forgot all those ridiculous release names, but yeah thats when i was still getting used to linux so i preferred command line and navigating every menu of the ui



_iJunes
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07.14.09 - 3:18 pm

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Joe Borfo
07.14.09 - 3:19 pm

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Yeah that's always bothered me too. Similar to how Linux is referred to as an OS, but it's really a kernel..... but I guess it can mean two things. Similar to how I think PC now equals Windows, and Personal Computer...........



braydon
responding to a comment by snowcone
07.14.09 - 3:19 pm

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people in real life don't distinguish between kernels and oses.

but i still get annoyed when people confuse stacks for drivers i dont know how.



_iJunes
responding to a comment by braydon
07.14.09 - 3:22 pm

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yeah, i think apple helped confuse people in order to differentiate themselves from windows more. however all the main operating systems run on x86 hardware.

linux is just a kenerl, the operating system is called GNU as it was named when the project started



snowcone
responding to a comment by braydon
07.14.09 - 3:22 pm

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that's not true.. the reason why people call GNU linux has a long story behind it



snowcone
responding to a comment by _iJunes
07.14.09 - 3:25 pm

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junu, where can i find this thing?

find me a copy online,

ill smoke you out and share a bottle of soju with you.


and btw,

did u hear about how baja fresh is serving korean bbq tacos?

called the kogi korean taco.


what the fuck?!


that shit pisses me off.


kinda like the way when japanese folks get pissed when they see a bunch of frat boy douchebags and hoochie ass girls doing sake bombs.





KiMS1
responding to a comment by _iJunes
07.14.09 - 3:28 pm

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fuckit, just give up and ride your bike



666
07.14.09 - 3:29 pm

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LOL yeah the real dirty shit kills systems HAHAAAHAHA!!



madmelo
responding to a comment by Gizzard
07.14.09 - 3:30 pm

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not at all. i've been using gimp for over three years. i was forced to start using it when i migrated to vista, which couldn't reliably run the version of photoshop that i owned.

i don't want to get into a back-and-forth argument about it though. my new advice to mike would be to go ahead and download it (it's free) and see what you think about it.

after using gimp for three years, my opinion is that it sucks balls.



Donny
responding to a comment by snowcone
07.14.09 - 3:31 pm

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+10000

The hardest thing is learning the new key shortcuts, menus. tec.

I prefer having all the tools shown in the toolbox rather than having them in stacks that are hidden, especially since its such a mouse based activity.





braydon
responding to a comment by snowcone
07.14.09 - 3:31 pm

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I know that DUDE but most people refer to windows as PC cuz most people have no idea what PC means!



madmelo
responding to a comment by snowcone
07.14.09 - 3:31 pm

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GIMP on Windows or OSX is a different experience than running it on Ubuntu, or another GNU/Linux distro. On OSX it sucks because you also need to start up X11 every time you open it, and the interface doesn't match the rest of the system.



braydon
responding to a comment by Donny
07.14.09 - 3:33 pm

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OMG KIM CHECK YOUR LIKE TEH FB

and they're making bulgogi in baja fresh?

instead of going postal im gonna go BAJA



_iJunes
responding to a comment by KiMS1
07.14.09 - 3:34 pm

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if no one has any idea what pc means, then why would they use the word?

they think they know what it means, they think it means windows

just call it windows, everyone knows what windows is



snowcone
responding to a comment by madmelo
07.14.09 - 3:37 pm

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yeah that X11 shit was to tech for me, I just went with CS4 on OSX, i did like the videos of gimp and inkscape thou



madmelo
responding to a comment by braydon
07.14.09 - 3:37 pm

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stop being such a technicality nazi.



_iJunes
responding to a comment by snowcone
07.14.09 - 3:38 pm

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now u want to get all tech so u r a WINDOWs person, ill stick with my MAC. we can call the word battle done, both do what they need to do.



madmelo
responding to a comment by snowcone
07.14.09 - 3:39 pm

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Thank u sir



madmelo
responding to a comment by _iJunes
07.14.09 - 3:39 pm

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i don't use windows



snowcone
responding to a comment by madmelo
07.14.09 - 3:40 pm

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my god man! its all good, lets argue about bikes or something, LOL! im trying to look busy at work



madmelo
07.14.09 - 3:43 pm

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sghit madmelo yo

i saw you on the bus this morning

HAHAHAHA

you';re the pista guy

im the bridgestone lazy fuck in the morning
whats up!?!?!



_iJunes
07.14.09 - 3:45 pm

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actually we run into each other more than you think. you get off at sepulveda and ventura i get off at church ln.


i always think, psshh yeah a pista fixie...


ok so its you. trackstanding on sunset and church lane... yeahhhhh



_iJunes
07.14.09 - 3:46 pm

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I don't know dude, "sucks balls" sounds kinda unspecific, you might be more convincing if you pulled out details.



braydon
responding to a comment by Donny
07.14.09 - 3:46 pm

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oh crap i can see your light fixtures in your office

you dont work in the same building i do do you?

10960 wilshrie?



_iJunes
07.14.09 - 3:46 pm

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LOL, you always look mad dude. I thought u didnt like me cuz i usally beat u to the Bus on my BMX cuz i get out earlier, LOL cool man, i was gonna say whats up today too. see u after work maybe.



madmelo
responding to a comment by _iJunes
07.14.09 - 3:47 pm

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im always FADED SON!



_iJunes
responding to a comment by madmelo
07.14.09 - 3:47 pm

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hmmm maybe i shouldn't have said that if we work together...

you dont work at VMU do you....?



_iJunes
07.14.09 - 3:48 pm

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nah, im on colorado n 20th



madmelo
responding to a comment by _iJunes
07.14.09 - 3:49 pm

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I'll have to agree on this one, just call in Windows.



braydon
responding to a comment by snowcone
07.14.09 - 3:49 pm

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WINDOZE





_iJunes
07.14.09 - 3:51 pm

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haha yeah no i dont look angry, im usually ass tired or high out of my mind.

which is why im on the bus instead of riding over the hill anyways.

btw is it just me or is it much easier to approach riders who have spoke cards?



_iJunes
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07.14.09 - 3:52 pm

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LOL all good man, sometimes wait scratch that most of the time i look like im mad or speacial ED with my helmet n sometimes safety vest. Plus ive been sleeping and i snore and drool and talk in my sleep. so one seat by me accept the mean midget housekeepers. As for spoke cards im only rocking one for the all city race. ill say whats up next time i see u forsure fellow rider n Bus rider.



madmelo
responding to a comment by _iJunes
07.14.09 - 3:59 pm

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[Xerox Star]

XEROX STAR



:P





braydon
responding to a comment by _iJunes
07.14.09 - 3:59 pm

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riding over the hill?
how long does it take u and when do u head for it and from where.
i may want to ride with u, just there are some tight spots n valley to westside drivers r bad drivers.



madmelo
responding to a comment by _iJunes
07.14.09 - 4:00 pm

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THE GUI IS A LIE





_iJunes
responding to a comment by braydon
07.14.09 - 4:03 pm

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yeah there are smaller streets that are residential that i take when going up. do you have a geared or freewheel bike?



_iJunes
responding to a comment by madmelo
07.14.09 - 4:04 pm

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i got the pista on fixed gear mode(48/16) dont have freewheel. I got the BMX on freewheel (25/9)



madmelo
responding to a comment by _iJunes
07.14.09 - 4:47 pm

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yeah coming down on sepulveda is gonna spin you out, climbing is gonna be a bit harder but i hear of fixies doing it all the time.

i wouldnt mind the uphill so much but the downhill has got to be ridiculous. i remember i saw lane come down sepulveda on his fixed for bike and bake. i cant even go down cahuenga on a fixed gear



_iJunes
responding to a comment by madmelo
07.14.09 - 4:50 pm

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Dude can spin! I seen it!



jonnyboy
responding to a comment by _iJunes
07.14.09 - 4:59 pm

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+1 to ubuntu

except use kde for bonus points

kubuntu.org



professor fate
responding to a comment by braydon
07.14.09 - 11:29 pm

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haha why do you run ie in linux?? long live google chrome!

this is the status of photoshop in wine: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=17

On the other hand you could use the GIMP which is a free and linux-native photoshop clone



professor fate
07.14.09 - 11:33 pm

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If you have the right hardware on your laptop you can run Mac OS on it. I have a macbook but i make pc desktops at home that run the Mac OS. I save a ton of money that way.

I would like to run linux but their is too much work for me to do to get less applications running. Mac has *nix commands available if you wanna nerd out or just a simple user interface for those that just want to point, click and drag..

I love mac but they are too expensive.... So i just look for compatible hardware and build them myself.

Works really well.

Check out insanelymac.com



onemanstrash
07.15.09 - 4:48 am

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Yo KIMS1 if you need help just shoot me an email and I'll be more than happy to take a look at your PC free of charge. I work in computer repair so just hit me up.

salmypal AT gmail DOT com



sal725
07.15.09 - 8:27 am

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