A New, Fast Paced Westside Ride
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SFRider at 09.3.08 - 6:44 pm
Just wanted to judge the interest level for a new ride on the Westside I'm thinking, 35+ miles, with a very quick pace, no drinking, no cruisers, people will need to be in decent shape and riding a geared, or fixie/singlespeed roadbike to keep up. There will be regroup locations but only enough time to load up with fluids and a smoke. All are encouraged to come out and push themselves, it will be lots of fun and lots of hard riding. I'm thinking leave from somewhere on Ocean in Santa Monica around 8:30 or 9...return to the same spot with an ever changing route every wednesday. Come out and be a part of the first westside ROOT RUN.
Give me some feedback, so I can judge if there will be enough riders that are up for a new challenging ride with some pretty cool route options
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A Cub Camp replacement? Is it time for CC to go on hiatus while the cub leaders take on other projects?
stevo409.3.08 - 6:49 pm
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no cub camp replacement, just something different, more laid back but as fast or faster
SFRider09.3.08 - 6:51 pm
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thursday night is a great night for a ride like this..
30-40 miles @ 20mph every week = perfect
asparagus09.3.08 - 6:56 pm
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I was planning on a wednesday night run, cubcamp does their thing on thursdays and those riders are invited too....just want to get more challenging rides going instead of the party rides, but the night can be altered based upon the response...i'm hoping to have the first one roll out next week
SFRider09.3.08 - 7:00 pm
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SFR,
I'm all for another quick ride on the Westside. i do know that there is some other things that go on Wednesdays that may reduce the turnout for another ride (even a different style, like yours) We have Den Dinner's ever other Wednesdays and Movie night at BRW alternate Wednesdays but i think your biggest competition might be the Venice Chill ride. Its put on by LA Fixed and rides out from the Venice Circle. Its labeled a chill ride but the last one i jumped on were traveling around 24mph. Don't know if that is the norm or not, but that is a little quicker than a 'chill' ride in my book.
I am curious what the future of Cub Camp Thursdays holds. If they decide to go on hiatus, maybe that could be a better night for you.
Stay tuned.
stevo409.3.08 - 7:11 pm
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Cubs nevar say die.
I mildsly disagree wif Stevo in teh followeng sense:
The Westsyde has soo many rydes. Der is a conflict on which days?
EVERY DAYS
is sumtheng we awl hav to get used to. If u wants - jez schedule it N do it.
Mondays is a little moar open, but Wenddasy and Tuedsays gud too.
Knittens09.3.08 - 7:14 pm
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+1
im definitely ive been thinking about a fast westside ride for awhile now!
venice chill ride is every tuesday. i think a fast wednesday right is perfect.
larsenf09.3.08 - 7:16 pm
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Wednesday = movie night @ BRW and Den Dinner..
How about Every Tuesday? Meet @ the Cannon?
asparagus09.3.08 - 7:17 pm
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berry berry mild disgreement wif STEVO
wahts he is sayeng is spots on
eye am jsut sayeng - fukkit - don worry bout it - bekaus der is no avoineng it
N help Cubs stay strong
Knittens09.3.08 - 7:17 pm
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Mondays are out because of wolfpack, i'm going with wednesday, the venice chill ride is either tuesday or thursday...and i'm assuming i'll be able to get a few riders that want to go fast instead of watching a movie. There are lots of rides on the westside, just not enough fast ones
SFRider09.3.08 - 7:19 pm
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hmmmms
WP is gud - but der is many ryders who cant do WP cause its too much of a trek to go out there, ryde hard, and come home.
There is a market for riders for Monday that would not be taking people from WP.
Knittens09.3.08 - 7:22 pm
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My bad. I thought the Venice ride was on Wednesday. Then Wed. may be a good day. Tuesday's is Taco Tuesday (social ride) so no competition there.
@ knittens:
I didn't say soo many rides, just pointing out that there are other things happening on the west side that can possibly dilute one's ride. That is all. I'm all for competition and giving people options but i also look forward to a good turnout when i put on a ride.
And yes, never say die for Cubbies, but even they need to hibernate once in a while (or ride a bike across the country).
stevo409.3.08 - 7:22 pm
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SEE, I TOLD YOU GUYZ THAT THE WEST SIDE SUCKS, THIS IS THE ONE AND EAST SIDAZZ.
I LOVE THE WEST SIDE, I THINK I'M MOVING OVER "THERE".
I ACTUALLY TYPED THIS STONED OUT OF MY ASS. LOL.
( HOWS THE SPELLING GUYZ? )
eddieboyinla09.3.08 - 7:27 pm
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I make the trek from Santa Monica to ride wolfpack on mondays so that's why monday is out...it's really not that bad, a good cool down after a hard ride
SFRider09.3.08 - 7:38 pm
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Just post it, stand by it, lose sleep over it, dream and scheme about, have fights over its direction, always keep it fresh, miss meals to make spoke cards, don't stop being creative, spend money on it when needed, live it, throw parties under its name, race under its name, and marry some of the people that show up to it...and keep this up for over a year...and then it won't matter what night you have it.
There has been so many other rides on the Westside come and go and only CubCamp remains. We always keep it fresh, we treat every ride like a work of art, no matter how big or small it may seem.
Cubcamp began as a WP alternative, but very quickly found its own identity. Now, riding hard and fast is only a part of it. So I guess if I have any advice its to be creative and steadfast and things will work out. Best of luck.
SKIDMARCUS09.3.08 - 8:13 pm
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I am Sean, the tall guy from SF with the big green bike...and who might you be shiznitologist
Thanks for the advice skid i'll see what I can do to create a fast and fun ride that all who can keep up are welcome at
SFRider09.3.08 - 8:28 pm
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ROOOOOT!
I just had a vision of the future...
This ride will begin as a westside wolfpack but the riders will become so strong, so fast, and so daring that the ride will eventually grow into a weekly 3-hour century ride that blasts through the seedy underbelly of orange county before returning to the start with a stack of new phone numbers in the pocket of each and every one of us. Art schools will start calling SFRider to offer us money to ride to their campuses so that students of sculpture and painting can attempt the godly act of recreating our thighs and calves for posterity from blocks of marble and on canvas in preparation for the redecoration of the sistine chapel's ceiling. Surfers all up and down the coast will dread our approach because the gyroscopic disruption of our collective wheel-spinning glory will create tidal shifts that are catastrophic, not only to their day in the water, but to entire generations of sea-life. The leader of the pack will be called Moses because he will break wind so hard for those man enough to stay in his draft that the red sea of smog hovering over the LA area will part so that glorious sunshine and the fresh smell of pure oxygen may grace our streets every thursday morning following the ROOT RUN. Our lungs will be so efficient that the same clean air will be as thin and oxygen deprived as the highest points of the Himalayas and therefore all athletes in the area will experience a weekly boost in their training and the dodgers will win the world series due to their superior fitness, aided by the nutritional benefits of Gogi berries which will suddenly begin to spring up all over the city. We will get bored of riding through orange county every Thursday so we will start pedaling to Phoenix and back alongside bentstrider. Then, one night we'll get bored of that and decide to ride to San Francisco only to get really fucking pissed off when we find out that they won't let us ride the trolly back... so we'll all yoke up and tow the bitch. Then all the bike messengers and wannabes in SF will get really pissed off that we took their trolly and they'll ride down to beat us up but by the time they arrive (on the first saturday after the third friday of the month) they'll find it fully converted into the awesomest CRANK MOBILE evar and they'll wind up smack in the middle of so much EFF YOU ENN that they'll run around trying to sell their city to us for a $2 but we'll all know that money could be better spent on a tall can.
Undercover Bob09.3.08 - 9:05 pm
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oh... and also, I predict that I'll be there next Wednesday.
Undercover Bob09.3.08 - 9:11 pm
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How are you going to make it more chill, yet at the same time faster?
franz09.3.08 - 9:31 pm
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I don't want this to be a westside version of the wolfpack, it's going to be the ROOOT Run, nothing more nothing less. I don't want to create a rift amongst cyclists. We're all out on our bikes for the same reasons, have some fun, cause a bit of ruckus, and get a good workout. So let's stay away from stepping on toes and not claim to be a version of something else...We will be an original ride influenced by all that I have ridden with since i've been in LA.
Other than that Undercover hit the nail on the head. Let's go push ourselves and everyone around us that shows up
SFRider09.3.08 - 9:39 pm
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The chill part will be the people involved, and the unified goal of bettering ourselves as cyclists. Faster because I like to ride fast, i'm not trying to go faster than anyone except myself on my last ride
SFRider09.3.08 - 9:41 pm
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Faster because everyone either wishes they were Moses or wishes they could keep his wheel.
Undercover Bob09.3.08 - 9:42 pm
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and chill because Bentstrider will let us draft his rig from time to time.
Undercover Bob09.3.08 - 9:43 pm
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undercover bob's stories are fucking amazing and very enjoyable. dude is talented.
Jazzy Phat Nastee09.3.08 - 9:48 pm
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I need a good ride to work well for my mid-week training absence and this works for me. I work Thursday nights and miss a lot of goodness as a result.
I look forward to high-fiving Moses and Zeus, whose shield is thunde,r on this ride to bring us kleos as we put a girdle round the earth at 30 mph while waxing allusively.
hitsthepoles_ow09.3.08 - 9:57 pm
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KY, after checking out the webpage you linked up to your profile you're definitely ROOOT RUN material. I look forward to seeing you in a week, just keep em in your pants around the cops
SFRider09.3.08 - 9:59 pm
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SFRIDER
Don't worry, the batman only comes out in the privacy of my own home.
KY09.3.08 - 10:10 pm
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My only suggestion is to spend your energies with cubcamp first, it's already there and awesome, if you want to help lead a fast paced ride cubcamp is always looking for people that are interested and committed to riding. There are plenty of riders that regularly show up to cubcamp with the intention of going fast, and if you want to be a part of that then make it happen.
I'm only saying this because it's amazingly hard and frustrating to get something new going, especially with the eccentric and saturated nature of the westside. So, before you turn your back on cubcamp, try it on for a couple weeks.
e-rock09.3.08 - 10:14 pm
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Wed: ROOTRUN
Thurs: CUBCAMP
It's nice to have the option.
KY09.3.08 - 10:18 pm
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I'll ride with cubcamp tomorrow, and then get the ROOT RUN going a week from now. You're almost all invited...I just don't want any eliteism in this ride. I'm not trying to be cubcamp, i'm not trying to be Wolfpack. Just bringing some northern CA savegery to the LA area
SFRider09.3.08 - 10:19 pm
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As you people say "hella cool"...
KY09.3.08 - 10:21 pm
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first ROOT RUN brings the Northern California savagery to Southern California and then ROOT RUN will savagely ravage Northern California during a halfway stop before returning to Southern California with the trolly
Undercover Bob09.3.08 - 10:21 pm
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then mr. rogers will resurrect from the dead WITH trolly, which will take us to the land of make believe
hitsthepoles_ow09.3.08 - 10:24 pm
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count me in if you start late ;o
school till 6:45 in long beach .... start late ;)
I'll pull you!
thestolba09.3.08 - 11:02 pm
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call time at 8 or 830 rolling half an hour after that. Enough time to put in a good hard push and still make it back to have a few beers
SFRider09.3.08 - 11:03 pm
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@sfrider
I'll probably wait a little while before heading up that way again.
Too many fucking weigh stations within 30 miles of each other.
At least when I was driving with Swift, I had a place to park my truck at over in Lathrop.
Rent a car, throw the bike inside and join y'all for a pillagin'!!!
Now Phoenix, y'all can draft behind my truck at 80mph, any day of the week!!
bentstrider09.4.08 - 2:01 am
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@bentstrider
No need for a rental car. On the night when we visit SF on a whim to ride their trolly (and subsequently tow it back) we'll be pedaling. If you don't want to ride the whole way, Moses and Mr. Rogers ought to be able to tow you on your bike for most of the ride.
re: Phoenix, we'll probably only draft you the first few times while we're still getting to know the roads a bit. It won't be long before we'll be increasing your fuel economy by letting you draft us in neutral for a few miles at a time.
Undercover Bob09.4.08 - 2:32 am
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Not quite what I was getting at, but I'm down with the CLowNs!!!
bentstrider09.4.08 - 2:46 am
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cub camp is on another level.
i can't explain it... you just have to run into em on your side of town to get it. beasts.
p.s. STAY ON THE WESSYDE ! (jk)
HANDBONE09.4.08 - 4:28 am
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Undercover Bob09.4.08 - 8:17 am
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CC ride posted now.
SFR,
Just curious what kind of speeds on the flats did you have in mind?
stevo409.4.08 - 8:46 am
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since I've ridden with SFR a lot, I can guarantee speeds of between 25 and 55 mph on the flats.
Undercover Bob09.4.08 - 10:42 am
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Then he should almost be able to keep up with a Cub Camp week five. ;-)
stevo409.4.08 - 10:52 am
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55? wasn't that what we did thru LAX at Robotz !!!???!!!
this is awesome - ima joining as soon as i get a fricken roadbike!
UGH!
bondink09.4.08 - 11:02 am
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Yo, i would say wed. are a pretty busy night already for the westside. with CC stuff and polo... thursday might be a better choice maing. in case you MR guys n gals forgot...we do play polo every wednesday over in WLA....
tha hammer09.4.08 - 11:07 am
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@ stevo4:
i drafted sean the other night - he's so fricken tall it was sooooooooooooo nice - we did an awesomeness paceline down venice and moved at a pretty amazing clip.. my advice, for anyone wanting to do this ride, just come out - these gais are awesome to ride with!
bondink09.4.08 - 11:07 am
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@ the hammer:
I mildsly disagree wif Stevo in teh followeng sense:
The Westsyde has soo many rydes. Der is a conflict on which days?
EVERY DAYS
is sumtheng we awl hav to get used to. If u wants - jez schedule it N do it.
Mondays is a little moar open, but Wenddasy and Tuedsays gud too.
Knittens
09.3.08 - 10:14 pm
truth. just post it. people will come or trade one week for the other!
Ride On!
bondink09.4.08 - 11:09 am
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A weekly west side ride that's always fast and long each week would be cool. CC's are good but I'm not down with the slower ones. Tuesday would be my vote. Venice Chill ride on Tuesday doesn't totally conflict because they don't know what they want. One week it's genuinely chill and slow (boring) and other weeks it's really fast. And I think they're pretty set in their group. A ride that's fast and long every week would be bitchin.
0gravity09.4.08 - 11:48 am
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I was personally thinking of starting the "High-Desert Hammer-Down", but met gripes from the local road community.
Not to mention that aside from the 5-10 members of that elite, circle-jerk, everyone else rides a cruiser or mtb up here.
So, the name will probably stick, but only due to my alliance with the members of CubCamp and this proposed "Root-Run".
bentstrider09.4.08 - 11:59 am
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this ride conflicts with nothing on any day.
We will not carry sticks and will therefore not conflict with polo.
We will not sit down to eat and therefore will not conflict with Den Dinner.
We will not practice passive spectatorship therefore will not conflict with BRW movie night.
"Chilling" will only happen after we've outrun the imaginary nukes about to be dropped on the start point during the imaginary air raid that begins when SFRider says, "GO!" and therefore will not conflict with the Venice Chill Ride.
ROOT!
RUN!
Undercover Bob09.4.08 - 12:11 pm
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im telling you roll late and ill pull!
thestolba09.4.08 - 12:15 pm
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It's official,the ride is posted, I seem to have generated enough interest to get a decent group together. The more the merrier, thanks to all who posted suggestions and comments. See you on Wednesday
SFRider09.4.08 - 1:14 pm
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@ Thestolba
now that we're kicking this thing off officially, it won't be long before ROOT RUN will just start meeting you at work on our way to Tijuana where can more easily sell our excess hormones on the black market so we'll have beer money when we get back to the westside.
Undercover Bob09.4.08 - 6:48 pm
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Holy fucking shit this thread blew up! I looked at it in the afternoon and it was like 29 posts. If I'm not chained to a computer next Weds, I'll come out.
NorCal in the house, 'cos I'm from Lathrop.
nancine09.4.08 - 7:45 pm
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will bretts mom be attending our fast paced ride? can we at least stop by her house for quickies?
also may i suggest u designate the starting area somewhere easily accessible for people that are riding to it and driving and have to park... as will be my situation for the next 3 months
thestolba09.4.08 - 9:42 pm
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sfrider- i am isaac (ryans friend), and this ride sounds sexy
shiznitologist09.4.08 - 10:21 pm
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Parking is no issue if you go up Montana ave a mile or so from Ocean. No permits needed no worries of break ins, come from far away if necessary free parking just a bit up the road. I'm glad that this thread generated such a big response...I'm looking forward to seeing everyone out on Wednesday. ROOOOOOOT!
SFRider09.4.08 - 11:22 pm
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I'd like to try the ride, but as mentioned tonight, its sustaining the speeds is what i'm thinking about. Thanks for coming out!
stevo409.4.08 - 11:24 pm
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@ ROOT RUNNERS
Next Wednesday:
Traffic signals will blink unnecessarily and ask, "What are you thinking about?"
Car exhaust pipes will go limp as we pass and parking meters will be heard whispering, "it's okay, that happens to everyone sometimes..."
The streets we ride will be left behind, exhausted and murmuring requests to the sidewalk for a cigarette and a hand towel. "How can you let them treat you like that?" the sidewalk will ask. To which the street will reply, "It's okay. I knew what I was getting into. They're the type to just ROOT and RUN and that's exactly what I was looking for." The sidewalk will continue to judge the street and preach the benefits of the steady stride of pedestrians but, for all it's talk, will find no relief for it's insatiable jealousy.
Undercover Bob09.5.08 - 4:48 am
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those who know me after rides note that my bike is always creeping up in the backside of my car
then I smak that bike into action and remind it who daddy is... who pays it... who keeps it going
'i own you,' i say, to remind it who wears the bike shorts in the relationship
hitsthepoles_ow09.5.08 - 9:44 am
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Hmmm... this doesn't sound like a healthy relationship. I think your bike and I should have a talk.
Undercover Bob09.5.08 - 10:19 am
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on that note - i am looking for a healthy relationship - a cheap, 49", cute, drop bars, non-fixed, seat built to mold my ass, armadillo tires - i'd like to ride that bitch.. and as soon as she's found, i'll be one with the
ROOOOOOT RIDE !!!!
i love my boysszzz
bondink09.5.08 - 10:36 am
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my bike and i play master and servant
when it learns about dialectic, i'm done for
hitsthepoles_ow09.5.08 - 10:57 am
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not that this is any of my business, but i think the ROOT RUN needs it's own new thread.
tfunk40809.8.08 - 2:38 am
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alright alright you talked me into it..
theshues09.8.08 - 12:27 pm
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ROOT RUN is going off tonight, come join us at Montana and Ocean in the park and we'll all go fast and get a tour of what LA has to offer
SFRider09.10.08 - 3:44 pm
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