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Arizona Peace Keepers
Thread started by Dedicated818 at 06.23.10 - 6:59 pm

Attn: Hippies

Check it out........more controversial stuff.

arizonapeacekeepers.blogspot.com

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Better yet this site is more appropriate for you

arizonacockteasers.com



Foldie
06.23.10 - 7:10 pm

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Will you two just find a local boxing ring already so we can throw some $5's in!!!



bentstrider
06.23.10 - 8:03 pm

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Send those $5.00 donations to the Arizona peace keepers



Dedicated818
responding to a comment by bentstrider
06.23.10 - 8:11 pm

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Face it, amnesty is coming. Go cry into your pillow, hater.



Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by Dedicated818
06.23.10 - 10:36 pm

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That's right amnesty is on the agenda to give the Marxist a majority vote.

But what does amnesty have to do with securing the boarder from drug cartels ?



Dedicated818
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
06.23.10 - 10:55 pm

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Dear Senior Birther,

"No secure border until amnesty!" - Your buddy Barry.

Also, marijuana legalization will help to diffuse the drug cartels.

You don't have to like the answer.





Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by Dedicated818
06.23.10 - 11:15 pm

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Sorry but you should look up Marxist. Communist don't really vote, so either your an ignorant tea bagged throwing around "scary" words or you just don't get it.



Foldie
responding to a comment by Dedicated818
06.23.10 - 11:16 pm

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Your exactly right your buddy Barry is failing to seal the boarder in order to
push his amnesty agenda.

But Marijuana legalization is not going to effect the drug cartels as you suggest
due to the profits made from cocaine and meth.



Dedicated818
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
06.23.10 - 11:30 pm

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actually you don't get it.
Communist regimes often give a single canadate to vote for.
just like the system we have now.



Dedicated818
responding to a comment by Foldie
06.23.10 - 11:34 pm

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I'm not against border security, but not also without amnesty for the undocumented.

Both should be accomplished together EFFECTIVELY, and not by some yahoos with their guns.





Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by Dedicated818
06.24.10 - 12:01 am

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Why is it that issues are always combined ?
WTF does sealing the boarder from violent drug cartels have to do with amnesty ?

When an area of U.S. territory is deamed of limits to U.S. citizens due to an invasion
of criminal foriegn nationals, it seems reasonable for some type of action to be taken.
If the Federal govt. fails to protect it's citizens and boarders what is the alternative ?



Dedicated818
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
06.24.10 - 12:17 am

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Who's Attacking the Boarders? Leave the skateboarder alone....learn to spell.



stillline
responding to a comment by Dedicated818
06.24.10 - 12:20 am

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stop fucking repeating yourself. Take it or leave it. Also,

Fuck YOU

Go ahead shoot me.





Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by Dedicated818
06.24.10 - 12:21 am

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What did Regan do? What did bushy 1and2 do? Repugs tend to forget when they are not in power. No one will touch true immigration reform because politicians are beholden to corporations who want the cheap labor.



Foldie
responding to a comment by Dedicated818
06.24.10 - 12:21 am

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Come on that's no way to post.

just because you disagree gives you the right to insult ?



Dedicated818
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
06.24.10 - 12:48 am

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Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by Dedicated818
06.24.10 - 12:50 am

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Who's a Republican ?



Dedicated818
responding to a comment by Foldie
06.24.10 - 12:50 am

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"Communist regimes often give a single canadate to vote for.
just like the system we have now."

That's retarded. There were two major candidates in the 2008 Presidential election (I'm assuming that's what you're referring to). Both candidates, Obama included, won hard-fought primary elections from among a relatively large field of other candidates. To compare that to a single-party communist regime is ludicrous. If you consider the current U.S. administration to be "Marxist" then can you name some countries on this planet that currently aren't Marxist? It's clearly just hyperbole aimed at a President you don't agree with.

As for the Peace Keepers ... the U.S. Border Patrol, which is staffed by trained professionals equipped with hundreds of billions of dollars worth of equipment, has found it impossible to stem the flow of drugs into the U.S. If you think some "volunteer militia" will be able to accomplish what they have been unable to then you're out of your goddamn mind. The Peace Keepers will ultimately do nothing to stop a trade that is far more sophisticated and far larger than they can probably even imagine. Their main purpose is to put on a performance, to shock everyone and get attention by parading around armed and thus make immigration an electoral issue. It's very similar to how you're trying to troll these forums for a response (if you're truly, sincerely worried about this issue you probably shouldn't be posting about it on a *bicycle* forum ... right now it seems like you're just trying to provoke responses). People are against this type of activity because putting armed individuals, many of whom see the current Federal govt. as invalid or lacking in constitutional authority and most of whom see economic migrants as "invaders," is a recipe for disaster ... its only a matter of time until someone gets shot or hurt.

As for amnesty. Yes, it probably will happen. However, you're delusional if you think Obama is making some kind of political calculation (amnesty is more likely to cost votes than gain any, recently naturalized immigrants generally have very low voting rates). He'll do it for the same reason Reagan did: its in the interest of many employers and industries in the U.S., particularly agriculture and whats left of the manufacturing industry (which has razor thin margins and is competing with global non-U.S. companies with far lower labor costs). That's one of the reasons why the Arizona Chamber of Commerce, which normally toes the Republican Party line, was against SB70.




Hallucin8
06.24.10 - 12:52 am

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Ya, that spell check sure makes you lazy



Dedicated818
responding to a comment by stillline
06.24.10 - 12:52 am

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Lots of dialog with your different point of view and yet you're posting on
a bicycle forum. Seems you may be hallucinating.

Do you really think you were given a choice for president ?



Dedicated818
responding to a comment by Hallucin8
06.24.10 - 1:00 am

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When the Yellowstone Caldera blows it top, all of this will be a non-issue.



bentstrider
06.24.10 - 1:03 am

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It's a non issue for us Californians already
But it sure is fun to get Borfo and Foldies panties wadded up.



Dedicated818
responding to a comment by bentstrider
06.24.10 - 1:10 am

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I was responding to a post you initiated. I haven't started any political threads on Midnight Ridazz and I don't normally come here for political discussions.

Yes, I do think I was given a choice for president. Do you? It would help if you explained what you're trying to imply exactly. Are you insinuating that Barack Obama came to power un-democratically (such as through electoral fraud)? Or, are you referring to the fact that the two major parties only represent a narrow slice of the political spectrum?



Hallucin8
responding to a comment by Dedicated818
06.24.10 - 1:18 am

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I wad up everyones pantaloonies when I lecture them about my idea of converting disused oil tankers into agri-ships with wind-turbines for masts.

In the meantime, I buy whatever I can find that's still produced in the country.
New Balance sneakers continue to serve me well, I only buy a new pair every 5-6 years.

They're that damned good!!



bentstrider
responding to a comment by Dedicated818
06.24.10 - 2:05 am

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You shouldn't be so delusional about made in the USA with your new balance.

made in USA?



Foldie
responding to a comment by bentstrider
06.24.10 - 7:28 am

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OMG your the one with your pink commie panties all bunched up 24/7
its why you started this commie thread.
Love it or leave it H818.
If you wanna complain about how bad it is here go live in North Korea you commie basterd.

HAHA ... I love the nonsensical use of "commie".
H818 you must be older than dirt. Because I haven't heard commie seriously used an an insult since the 70s, when i was a wee baby trickmilla and the scary commies seemed just days away from starting WWIII.

Even "Drill Baby Drill" Palin had the sense to switch to "socialist" for the 2000's
Whatching you rant here is like watching a dog chase its tail.
which is fun ... till it gets boring.

Keep it up commie. ;-)






trickmilla
responding to a comment by Dedicated818
06.24.10 - 8:39 am

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you want to stop the drug trade? here are some suggestions:

-bring back after-school programs that used to keep kids out of gangs
-fix our failing schools
-give ex-convicts a path to employment.
-put drug addicts in rehab rather than prison.
-spend tax dollars to create productive jobs that keep people out of jail*

*saving money on prison guards and prison construction.

the question is would you rather spend your tax dollars to imprison 2 million people in this country, or would you rather spend it to make those convicts into productive members of society?



tortuga_veloce
06.24.10 - 10:37 am

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how about legalize all drugs and tax, regulate, and manufacture them domestically. So there is no profit incentive to import drugs illegally.

I'm sure the whole foods crowd will love their organic, shade grown, fair trade coca tea.
And the rock stars will gladly switch over to, clean FDA approved smack.



trickmilla
responding to a comment by tortuga_veloce
06.24.10 - 10:48 am

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Pro Racer and Pro bike mechanic in a past life

Too bad hatred toward Mexicans is the best you got in the present life. I understand it's all for the attention though, so I ain't trippin on this again.

On a more interesting note: what have you put together for the Coaster Brake Challenge?



md2
06.24.10 - 10:57 am

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wow this is soooo uninteresting



sancho1
06.24.10 - 11:56 am

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Dedicated818

The last Amnesty program happened during the

REAGAN ERA

That's right your boy could have vetoed but he didn't.

Communism is a democracy in the same sense that capitalism is a democracy.

This country has a one party system the capitalist party with it's two factions, the democrats and the republicans. the only way either of them get elected is by having a lot of capital to fun their campaigns.

If you want to "solve" the border issue, you have to squash the incentive for coming here. You will never stop broke people from pursuing their dreams but you CAN stop businesses from violating labor laws by cracking down on businesses that pay cheap labor. You are focused on entirely the wrong root cause as most republicans are.



Roadblock
06.24.10 - 12:20 pm

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Nebraska is taking the right approach, penalizing business who hire illegal immigrants. They are also requiring landlords to provide information about their tenants to police to check for citizenship status.
see article

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/22/us/22fremont.html

All the "Secure-The-Borders-From-The-Cartels" talk is bullshit.

Name a specific police/cartel confrontation that would justify the Arizona bully law..

Bottom line, turn FOX news off, bro. It's contaminating your thought process.



Destro1er
responding to a comment by Roadblock
06.24.10 - 1:39 pm

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You just like to start shit, so I'll pretend you don't exist.

It's getting hard to find anything made here anymore due to everyone wanting to be cheap on all levels anyway so it's a losing battle.

Explicitly stated, made in the US for the most part, but materials for actual shoe construction acquired from "who the fuck knows?"

Perhaps I ditch all of this and go raise sheep in the four-corners.
Sell wool locally and turn the bare-hides into some old-school wares themselves.




bentstrider
responding to a comment by Foldie
06.24.10 - 2:03 pm

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I don't believe in the requiring landlords to check for citizenship clause. that sounds terrible atually. I only believe that labor laws should be enforced on businesses. Human beings aren't illegal but treating them like dirt or abusing their labor is a problem for everyone legal or not. If businesses are allowed to flout labor laws and abuse people that's wrong and it hurts us all and encourages desperate people to do desperate things.









Roadblock
responding to a comment by Destro1er
06.24.10 - 2:44 pm

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hey, if it wasnt for the '86 amnnesty ,you wouldnt have this mexican laughing at you guys .and that woul be a shame wouldnt it?



mandingo
06.24.10 - 3:04 pm

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it should be funny when we all see each other at the coater brake challenge.
thats the thing about this forum,we actually see eachother quite frequently,and you can always tell people feel a little awkward when they run into their online nemesis.people are usually a lot better in person then on this piece of shit internet.



mandingo
06.24.10 - 3:11 pm

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not me... i'm a jerk all the time.



md2
responding to a comment by mandingo
06.24.10 - 3:12 pm

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i said "usually"...
you got a rig yet?



mandingo
responding to a comment by md2
06.24.10 - 3:14 pm

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Foldie
responding to a comment by md2
06.24.10 - 3:17 pm

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I think I have a rear wheel, but I have to put a 135 axle on it. I'm going to go the fancy route i suppose



md2
responding to a comment by mandingo
06.24.10 - 3:20 pm

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