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Long Beach Critical mass
Thread started by Ninja biker at 10.18.10 - 5:18 pm


Hell Yeah!
Stand up for your Shit!

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i was just about to post this up NINJA lol awesome VIDEO



Hello_KittyTrance
10.18.10 - 5:20 pm

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Now that's a bike ride leader!
Actually very disappointing to hear iince LB is widely known as a bike friendly city..



Ninja biker
10.18.10 - 5:25 pm

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its so weird that in this society we have these "officers" of law enforcement, essentially practicing law without a law degree. This cops attitude changed after learning he was being video taped. Too bad this "officer" didnt recognize that california state law is based on "the spirit of the law", not "the letter of the law". Last but not least, this "officer" was tripping on the bicyclist for impeding traffic, whilst him and this three buddies in police cars were doing a far more effective job of impeding traffic for the 15 mins of this tape.



shotgun_mike
10.18.10 - 7:02 pm

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I don't know how many people here who actually ride in the LBC...but they are NOT bike friendly. When there's huge events where LBC's rep is on the line, the police seem to look the other way and play the role of being rider friendly. But when you try to do a group ride (much less Critical Mass or back when Sins & Sprockets did a ride in the LBC) we had some interactions with the police.



katerpillar
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10.18.10 - 10:31 pm

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That's really sad to hear.



Ninja biker
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10.18.10 - 11:17 pm

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I can see why cops get upset with riders. I'm from Long Beach too. I've never been harrassed by the police. This guy has a point but about halfway through his mouth keeps running and he stops thinking. It turns into bravado. Even his girl and friend are trying to tell him to shut up. There ate a lot of passionate bikers out there but very few use their brains. I give him props for standing up, but minus points on interupting the officer several times and constantly repeating himself until his words seemingly lost all merit. And what's with the weird rabbit trail stories that have nothing to do with the situation?

Just because it's a cop doesn't mean you have the right to be disrespectful. Handle your beef like an intelligent man.



ScooterHayes
10.19.10 - 6:14 am

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Watch this: Dont talk to the police!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik&feature=youtube_gdata_player



ScooterHayes
10.19.10 - 8:05 am

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i had to stop watching at the 3 min mark... talking that much should be against the law.



md2
10.19.10 - 8:15 am

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The Long Beach police have a well earned reputation of being clueless about bicyclist rights, but things are changing there. The city and police cheif are behind making L.B. a much more bike friendly city.
It will take time, but I'm hoping things will continue to get better for all of us down there.



Creative Thing
10.19.10 - 11:43 am

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The squeaky wheel always gets the grease.

Just make sure you squeak to the right people.

This guy is doing it wrong.



Joe Borfo
10.19.10 - 12:28 pm

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Actually Joe, MD2, and all the other critics - this guy is doing it right. He may not be the most eloquent or succinct, but he is doing fine. He stood up for himself, he insisted on ethical behavior, and he flipped the situation. In the end he does not get cited unjustly because he made a good argument and he let the officer know that he was videotaping and that he would go over his head if necessary. Y'all may not have been patient enough to absorb that message, but the officer did.

This was unethical treatment by the officer, and unlike the rider, he is on the clock and he swore an oath to the constitution to uphold the law. That's a problem.

You shouldn't have to be an expert in conflict resolution, an FBI negotiator, or an accomplished public speaker to be get treated fairly by law enforcement. I challenge anyone who thinks he did too much talking, to do better under similar circumstances - about to get a ticket, facing multiple officers, and winded from riding hard.



Alex Thompson
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10.19.10 - 1:11 pm

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and furthermore, in the end he got my attention, he got Box's attention, and he got Bikeside's attention, so he did it even righter than I originally stated.



Alex Thompson
10.19.10 - 1:13 pm

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well, there goes my draft ive been writing up to propose a "talking too much law", which I was serious about. Im going to watch the whole video now before I destroy the proposal.

Also, since Joe, myself and other *geez* "critics" got Alex Thompson's attention, did we do it even right(er) too? Cause once we get "that" attention, we must be doing something right.

Los Angeles; it's all about who you know.



md2
responding to a comment by Alex Thompson
10.19.10 - 2:00 pm

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Well as long as he got your attention then.



Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by Alex Thompson
10.19.10 - 2:09 pm

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I usually just flash my ta-tas and wear a scarf, then they let me off with a warning.



bentstrider
responding to a comment by Joe Borfo
10.19.10 - 3:15 pm

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U don't realize how valuable you are to us. ALEX, learn from the master!



Joe Borfo
responding to a comment by bentstrider
10.19.10 - 5:17 pm

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epic LULZ



Roadblock
responding to a comment by bentstrider
10.19.10 - 7:00 pm

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Haha wow for whoever said that he was talking to much, it kind of seemed like thats what got him of the hook for the ticket.



Tupapi
10.19.10 - 8:12 pm

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Thanks Alex, I've forwarded your email to the guy in the video ;)



Ninja biker
10.19.10 - 8:58 pm

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