ATTN: RIDE LEADERS
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FMLY at 07.27.10 - 3:40 pm
This is a big city with a lot of amazing rides. A lot of rides have a lot of different purposes and ideas. It's time that we start creating a unified vision of the bike community or at the very least have a place where we can all share ideas and grow together.
I'm suggesting a meeting with all the ride leaders at McWorld in Midcity. This is for rides big and small; party and serious; protests and hustling. This is a place where we can express concerns we may have, problems we see arising and can share ideas of how to become a stronger community and grow.
IF YOU RUN A RIDE, PLEASE COME!
Meeting will be at McWorld (5011 W. Adams Blvd) @ 6:30 (real time)
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Today?
I want to attend, but kinda short notice, plus Blood In is happening right now.
X-Large07.27.10 - 4:02 pm
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oh sorry! This is for August 9th
FMLY07.27.10 - 4:09 pm
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I tried to pick a day with no rides. It took a while to find haha
WHEEEE!!
FMLY07.27.10 - 4:19 pm
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Erm...is there any particular reason why these concerns can't be discussed, and these ideas shared, right here where everybody can see?
PC07.27.10 - 5:32 pm
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I just think it'd be nice to have everyone in person. Of course everyone is invited
FMLY07.28.10 - 2:32 pm
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I think it is a great idea.
While an internet forum is a great way to share information.
It is not the same as talking with a group of people.
The quality of the exchange is simply different.
The two are not mutually exclusive.
People talk about these things on rides informally all the time.
We don't webcast those conversations either.
I'm going to make it a high priority to attend.
Lets keep the ride scene healthy.
trickmilla responding to a
comment by PC
07.28.10 - 2:49 pm
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wtf is mcworld?
no liquor stops, no gang neighborhoods, stops are only for gettin water/food, keep it moving.
don't give people a chance to fuck around. it's a bike ride first and foremost. time should be spent riding and not standing around.
if you wanna get fucked up and ride around with ur friends, then do it. just keep it strictly friends though. don't post up on MR.
KiMS107.28.10 - 3:14 pm
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no liquor stops, no gang neighborhoods, stops are only for gettin water/food, keep it moving.
All neighborhoods are "gang neighborhoods." Either you want to explore your city or you don't.
Other than that, +1.
Seriously, if ride leaders really want to meet to make things better, it would be a REALLY fucking short discussion:
"So, how are these interminable parking lot stops working out for us?"
"Pretty badly, actually. They annoy people in the neighborhoods we visit and attract a lot of people who just see the rides as a way to get drunk and act like assholes without facing the consequences."
"Oh. Well, what do you say we stop doing them on every goddamn ride?"
"Sounds good to me."
"Me too."
"Meeting adjourned."
PC responding to a
comment by KiMS1
07.28.10 - 3:24 pm
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you missed the point entirely!
They pressing concern for the ride leaders is solely: how do we get more poon on the rides?
Damn, PC, you're slacking.
md2 responding to a
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07.28.10 - 3:29 pm
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Have you been on a FMLY Ride yet? Marino raves about them. They have stops for performances. I hear it comes together really well. If this is true, then there ARE exceptions...
Ride Arc had stops...
Joe Borfo responding to a
comment by PC
07.28.10 - 3:34 pm
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xlarge and tortuga - please continue overhyping worthless garbage. you guys have not a creative bone in your collective bodies.
ruinedbyidiots07.28.10 - 3:36 pm
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naturally my post will never get a response.
Joe Borfo07.28.10 - 3:38 pm
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at the very least have a place where we can all share ideas and grow together.
yeah, hey, PC is right, i thought thats what the forum was for? Fuck it then, anyone want to meet up at Cheetahs or Jumbos Clown room so we can talk shit to each other? i'm just not sure how we'll add pics or youtube videos.
md2 responding to a
comment by ruinedbyidiots
07.28.10 - 3:39 pm
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"All neighborhoods are "gang neighborhoods." Either you want to explore your city or you don't."
i think exploring your city should be done on ur own or with a small group of friends, instead of 300+ kids, half of them who are drunk, riding around highland park gang territory on a saturday night. its just a bad combination.
you bring a lot of these rides through highland park, the only thing those gangbangers see are a bunch of drunk overpriveleged suburban kids with expensive toys. they don't see the fun, they don't see the camaraderie, they only see shit they can easily jack.
besides, its way more easy to explore with a small group of friends and keeps whatever ur exploring intact.
a huge ride rolled through griffith park a few months ago. they trashed the place and theres no way the ride leader could have stopped all of them. the ride leader was a dumbass to bring a bunch of kids through that area. a lot of local cyclists ride up and down trash truck hill and mt hollywood and these fucktards came and left all their cigarette butts and beers cans. so a big FUCK YOU to you guys.
KiMS1 responding to a
comment by PC
07.28.10 - 3:41 pm
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This is exactly why an in person meetingis a great idea. People are much more likey to say "fuck you" to people they've never met over the interwebz.
In person, looking somebody in the eye, breaking bread or sharing a beer with them we are much more likey to express ourselves in a mutually respctful way and hence more able to see/ hear other opinions and have our views and opinions heard as well.
That's dialog.
trickmilla responding to a
comment by KiMS1
07.28.10 - 3:53 pm
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i think another huge obvious thing we all need to understand is that you can't expect "party" rides to ever get better.
they are party rides.
they are parties.
have you ever had a party at ur house where you woke up and the house was clean and spotless?
shit happens at parties.
its just the way it is.
now at bars and clubs, people drink and be social but most importantly, they are civil.
why is that?
it's because they have fucking huge bouncers.
you want ur party rides to stay civil, then get ride bouncers or whatever. get some big fucking sausage necked dude and have him fuck people up when they get rowdy.
just stop the party rides. if rides are more focused about riding, all the shit kids who drink too much, all taggers, etc, they'll all leave.
for example,
TNS, we used to get fucked up. we used to have at least one crash per week. fuckin graham and july went to jail because of our ride. we cleaned up our shit, decided to focus on riding, and now everyones fast and we have no drama.
think about it,
wolfpack, bicykillers, wndsrs, TNS, CUNT, silverlake, all these rides are more focused on RIDING and not ONCE have you heard of some sorta drama, whehter its people stealing shit, tagging, getting too drunk, etc.
KiMS107.28.10 - 3:54 pm
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I would noty be riding a bike in L.A. if it wasn'tfor midnight ridazz.
The least I can do for the organziation that helped me become an LA cyclist is to keep pouring love into it and keep helping it to grow in positive ways so that it will be around for the next person who is. Curious about cycling and needs a super fun bike ride to help push them down the rabbit hole.
FMLY
Thanks for doing this.
It ur kind of positifity that keeps the bike scene rad!
trickmilla responding to a
comment by KiMS1
07.28.10 - 4:02 pm
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The least I can do for the organziation that helped me become an LA cyclist is to keep pouring love into it
I tried this, but now I can't ride with some groups.
md2 responding to a
comment by trickmilla
07.28.10 - 4:06 pm
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aka everyone turned their youthful enthusiasm into corny bullshit.
ruinedbyidiots responding to a
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07.28.10 - 4:07 pm
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partying helped you become an LA cyclist?
is this about cycling or is this about partying?
i get people on bikes for the love of the ride, not for the love of getting fucked up and trying to get laid.
KiMS1 responding to a
comment by trickmilla
07.28.10 - 4:10 pm
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It seems like a lot of people here have a lot of different opinions about what needs to change for this movement to move forward. This is why I called this meeting! Nothing will get done unless we all work together.
If you think this meeting is a waste of time and the forum is enough for you, just don't come to the meeting! No pressure
FMLY07.28.10 - 4:23 pm
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I haven't been to a FMLY ride yet. Do they stop at a 7-11 parking lot and drink for 2 hours?
stopping to watch bands and hang out is a bit different than making stops at liquor stores to get booze then go a mile to a park and stop there for an hour to get hammered and disturb neighbors who live around there. Ride Arc didn't do this and they had frequent stops. long ones too...
I don't think it's the actual stopping that is the problem, I think it is WHERE the ride leaders choose to stop
There was a long enjoyable stop at Hollenbeck park during VEGANBANANAPENIS ride which was the first ride that brought me back out to these big social rides (I stopped attending bc of all the bullshit I didn't want to be around). Ladies ride had a stop too but not at a liquor store. Just sayin’
Depends on what kind of ride they want to lead and how much they want to cater to people who would rather spend more time getting fucked up than riding their bike (and holding their fucking lane!)
Kakihara responding to a
comment by Joe Borfo
07.28.10 - 4:31 pm
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+1
i think one of the coolest stops for a ride is after a bit of climbing. ur too tired to have or think about a beer and are actually glad you didnt drink earlier too.
KiMS1 responding to a
comment by Kakihara
07.28.10 - 4:34 pm
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im fundamentally against a unified vision. conformity is the enemy of creativity.
tortuga_veloce07.28.10 - 4:38 pm
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Who talked about getting fucked up and getting laid?
Your reasons are not everybody elses reasons for going on a "party ride".
In the summer of 2006 I brought a little bike back from Japan.
I started riding it on short trips.
My most adventurous missions had me riding from Hollywood to Echo Park.
Often taking the sidewalk when I felt uncomfortable on the road.
From the moment that brassknucle heard about my new bike he bugged me pretty much weekly to come check out Midnight Ridazz.
My first MR: October 13 2006 "Visions of Superstitions" blew my mind! I did about 3 or 4 of my longest rides all in one night. I met amazing people and got completely hooked on riding a bike in LA. From there, as i dealt with crashes, harassment, mechanical problems, and the various challenges of riding a bike in L.A. the Midnight Ridazz community was right there to help me figure out my place as a cyclist in the city, both on line and in person on rides.
So yes. A "party ride" changed my life for the better, and I will never forget it.
trickmilla responding to a
comment by KiMS1
07.28.10 - 4:39 pm
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Your over-thinking this way to much ... I don't see why you are making a huge deal over something clearly not interested in attending ... You don't like it ... don't go ... leaving paragraph long replies seems kinda pointless to me ...
OsnapsonJC responding to a
comment by KiMS1
07.28.10 - 4:43 pm
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I don't think anybody is trying force you to share a unified vision.
Quite the contrary, I assume this is going to be about sharing ideas and trying to help each other by sharing our techniques, successes and failures.
conformity is not the enemy of creativity.
conformity or non-conformity for their own sakes are the enemies of thoughtfulness/ creativity/ and evolution.
trickmilla responding to a
comment by tortuga_veloce
07.28.10 - 4:44 pm
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"My first MR: October 13 2006 " i seem to recall that the ride structure was different back then. I never really heard of thefts or drunk crashes...
the "party ride" was also alot smaller.... so yeah, it was fun and easy....
Adrian_The_BEAST responding to a
comment by trickmilla
07.28.10 - 4:46 pm
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my point exactly. Thank you tyler, muah!
X-Large responding to a
comment by ruinedbyidiots
07.28.10 - 4:48 pm
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i'm just sharing my opinion. there's nothing wrong with sharing opinions, but i think pushing boundaries and exploring new territories, even making mistakes is an important part of what midnight ridazz is about.
ive watched people propose to "solve all the problems" of midnight ridazz on several occasions. ultimately, people realize that the limited tools and resources inherent in leading a ride leave you with the same options.
where does the ride go
how long between stops
liquor stops or no stops
fast or slow
inclusive or exclusive
perhaps i was being a little overly simplistic. barleye has had some great ideas to frustrate ride hijackers that i think more people should be aware of, such as using hand signals instead of calling out turns. then again, other rides simply "go with the flow" of hijacking, setting up regrouping points.
so that's my 2c.
tortuga_veloce responding to a
comment by trickmilla
07.28.10 - 4:54 pm
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dude, i've only met you twice and i don't particularly like you. get off my nuts and don't come on my rides.
tortuga_veloce responding to a
comment by ruinedbyidiots
07.28.10 - 4:58 pm
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Thanks for putting me on blast, fucker!
Ju no I lubs you! :P
July responding to a
comment by KiMS1
07.28.10 - 5:03 pm
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And I believe this could be a positive thing for all the already mentioned points. There's no need to shoot it down before anything is ever said and done. Let's be a little more positive, eh?
July07.28.10 - 5:10 pm
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My first ride was about 300-500+ people.
and it had been raining all day.
Actually when I started riding, MR was still growing and rides were still getting bigger.
There were drunken crashes from time to time.
Probably not as much stealing.
A slightly older and tighter community on the big rides.
But structurally. Not really that different.
Midnight Ridazz is not exactly the same as when I started, but to this day, every time I go on one of these rides I experience some magic.
And that magic, is part of what gets new people hooked on cycling.
Big rides aren't for everybody. But for the people who like them and come out for "the right reasons", I'm happy to keep showing up and trying to bring the best out whatever ride I am on.
trickmilla responding to a
comment by Adrian_The_BEAST
07.28.10 - 5:13 pm
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@tortuga_veloce
don't even sweat it, tyler is the type of guy who rides alone or with a very small group, he doesn't take risks or put himself out there, he just sits back and waits to post stupid, negative comments in other people's discussions. It's kinda sad having to live like that :(
X-Large responding to a
comment by tortuga_veloce
07.28.10 - 5:28 pm
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that's the funny thing, is that i've seen him on big rides in the valley, but as soon as he sees me in real life, he leaves the ride.
internet tough guys, go figure.
tortuga_veloce responding to a
comment by X-Large
07.28.10 - 5:35 pm
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What I love about all the shit-talkery is that it highlights the VERY REASON this FMLY initiative is a good idea.
Many an effort to bring ridazz together and discuss the challenges and techniques of making rides happen have been foiled often though intense naysaying campaigns.
I'm glad this is going to happen.
Write on.
trickmilla07.28.10 - 5:58 pm
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whoa now, Mr. Borfo.... TMI... TMI...
Lets get you to the clown room, pronto!
md2 responding to a
comment by Joe Borfo
07.28.10 - 6:03 pm
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I'm in charge of nothing.
rev106 responding to a
comment by godmode
07.28.10 - 10:15 pm
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it sounds like the main problem with group rides (especially the larger ones) is there are newbies who can potentially mess it up for everyone. there will always be newbies, i mean, we've all had to start from somewhere. you can either avoid them (either by taking your ride off the grid or by actively discouraging certain types of people), or you can welcome them and help them grow.
tfunk40807.29.10 - 12:53 am
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You guys are so silly! I'll see ya'll there. Unless you don't come. Then I will see you else where
FMLY07.29.10 - 2:09 pm
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you are clearly on the wrong website... you need to go to bikeforums.net they are all about cycling..... this website is not only about cycling it's about cycling and partying and all kinds of other non-cycling related activities....
the idea is that you don't have to be a bikey person to enjoy cycling. you dont have to be serious about cycling to move about the city and enjoy events and people via bikes. I think that's hugely important. the non-bikey crowd should be able to enjoy events from a bicycle even if they don't care about bikes in a serious way...
Roadblock responding to a
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07.29.10 - 2:30 pm
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Attn: Ride Leaders
This is a post I placed on the BarChopz thread.
That was a fun night last night, what happen to the bars? BARCHOPZ. There was a few things that bummed me out last night. When we went to 7-11 on Victory, there were two guys I saw stealing. One guy stuff a beer in his back pack and the other guy stuffed back pack of chips or nuts in his back pack I said to him that it was cool and left it as that. A friend saw some steal on MNR at the liquor store in Burbank. Stealing does not represent me, BarChopz, MNR or Midnight Ridazz, so leave it at home or where ever you come from. Should I be the bad guy next time and point you out to everyone? We need to keep these rides strong and correct so they don't die out.
Stealing reflects on Midnight Ridazz and the ride leaders themselves. To help with thief, I think the ride leaders need to monitor the beer section and banned any body they catch stealing. Just my thoughts. I want these ride to be fun and positive..
Long Live Midnight Ridazz.......
Longlivelonghairs07.29.10 - 7:27 pm
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no stops at stores, bring what you got, only way to control the parking lot madness.
getting people to clean up after themselves ... you would think that would be easy .. NOT
how LAPD hasnt infiltrated the ranks with covert operatives is kind of mind boggling until you look at the big picture of what they are dealing with I guess
and dont be pickin on my homeboys on these here internets or ima have kick yo ass or somethin
jesus
ChaosRR07.29.10 - 7:48 pm
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This is an idea: have a mobile recycling center team, who with the help of a bike trailer(s) or a pick up truck, can come to the rides and make a quick buck while helping us keep the stops clean.
There's a lot of people out there who walk for miles to pick up a shopping cart worth of recyclables but how neat would it be if they could just follow us around and collect what we leave behind?
July07.29.10 - 8:02 pm
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That is a great idea and would probably net some serious cash on a larger ride.
But at the end of the day its a really simple, basic rule of public land and space.
You pack out, what you pack in.
Don't bring bottles would help, you can haul out a shitload of stomped empty cans.
I was on the beach by my sisters house in Maryland the day after 4th of July. Bunch of kids left fireworks mess and cans and what not all over the small beach area the neighborhood shares.
I cleaned it all up. Took 15 minutes. City provided trashcans were on site for god sake.
What the hell is wrong with people these days.
ChaosRR07.29.10 - 8:51 pm
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Conscious ridazz: If you could use extra cash and would like to help keep our stops trash free, hit me up. Let's get a couple teams to hit up the bigger rides during the week and convene at a later time that same night for some nom nomz and what have you. This could be a really awesome experience.
July responding to a
comment by ChaosRR
07.29.10 - 9:04 pm
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Yes.. I would love to know who is stealing on MNR so I can call them out in front of everyone and give them the boot ..
OsnapsonJC responding to a
comment by Longlivelonghairs
07.29.10 - 9:15 pm
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really, you do what you want. If you consider yourself a leader, then by all means, lead. Every ride is different and thus you cannot all adhere to the same structure. You can't control everyone so you have to weigh the risk vs. the fun you get out of it. I've been putting together cycling events for nearly a decade now and sticking to a formula is the best way to get people to follow, they know what to expect.
rev106 responding to a
comment by OsnapsonJC
07.30.10 - 6:43 am
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The larger rides the past 2 1/2 months have been drama free. LACM, RWNN, 2ND FRIDAY M.R....
I can only speak for RWNN...but we did away with liquor store stops about a year ago, i've limited the last 2 rides to (2) 20 minute stops. I know some people want more time on the stops but once we're back on the bikes, that's when the fun ensues.
The only area I won't take RWNN is upper Highland Park. The Avenues gangs are brutal.
I'll take it to South Central again but there are other areas to ride in first.
The meeting shouldn't be only ride leaders....cuz some of the best ideas will come from riders that have good ideas stored up.
barleye07.30.10 - 12:57 pm
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Im thinking of doing the same with store stops and making MNR BYOB ... spending 30 minutes at a store is becoming a pain in the ass and I want to eliminate stealing as an option for all the little kids ....
OsnapsonJC responding to a
comment by barleye
07.30.10 - 1:07 pm
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Honestly I'm still scratching my head trying to figure out why rides were ever--ever--anything other than BYOB. Really, grown adults can't wrap their heads around the idea of bringing and carrying what they need with them in a backpack?
PC responding to a
comment by OsnapsonJC
07.30.10 - 1:32 pm
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a lot of people don't know what they're in for for, especially with their first few rides. if you're going to do that, its important to warn people on the ride posting.
i remember the first no-store-stops midnight ridazz ride. i was dying for a drink of water.
tortuga_veloce responding to a
comment by PC
07.30.10 - 1:38 pm
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I agree with letting people know whats going to happen....
OsnapsonJC responding to a
comment by tortuga_veloce
07.30.10 - 1:41 pm
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BYOB is always a good choice to make. Especially if there's a liquor store a few blocks away from the meeting point.
godmode responding to a
comment by OsnapsonJC
07.30.10 - 2:01 pm
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+1 kims
Liquor / drinking stops on rides can be fun, IF people are responsible with it, but they end poorly for the community almost without fail. IF the cops don't bust them up and IF no one steals anything, the BEST outcome you can expect is still leery, stressed-out store owners and parking lots full of litter, no matter how loud you are going to yell "NO STEALING" and "PICK UP YOUR TRASH." You can't control people with yelling. My advice to ride leaders, if there must be liquor and party stops on your rides, is BYOB (as has been suggested already) and to bring a gigantic trash bag and pick up your ride's trash. Unfortunately, it is your responsibility as the ride leader to ensure that your ride leaves no trace. At least assign a reliable helper to do it.
Last time I was on a ride to Griffith Park, I stayed behind to pick up piles of bottles and shit because that is Griffith Park and I don't want to see it all fucked up. That does not have to be part of rider culture.
Everything Kim says about rides is spot on. I would add that although rides should be about the riding, they don't have to be like TNS, WNDSRS, Silverlake, where the riding is a hustle. I went on a ride a long time ago called the Bro ride. I dunno what happened to it. It was awesome. They had a beer or two, CLEANED UP after themselves, and then spent three hours riding. Not fast. They just rode around, stopped for ten minutes to rest, then rode around some more.
Isn't that what a group ride is supposed to be about? Is it a ride broken up by stops, or is it a series of stops broken up by short stints of riding?
outerspace07.30.10 - 3:09 pm
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They have this amazing new thing for cyclists called a "water bottle." One of these, for all but the most out-of-shape riders, is more than enough for twenty to thirty miles of riding at a social pace.
PC responding to a
comment by tortuga_veloce
07.30.10 - 5:42 pm
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thank you pc.
now if you really want to help, tell everyone who will ever go on a midnight ridazz ride to make sure not to show up without one.
tortuga_veloce responding to a
comment by PC
07.30.10 - 6:29 pm
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FMLY,
Your heart is in the right place, but your idea is not a good one.
L.A.'s bicycling scene has grown, and continues to grow because there is no centralization. We get together as citizens and cyclists when it counts.
When it comes to rides, it is all about what the people putting a ride together are interested in and how good they are at steering a crowd and marketing their ride to others.
There are tricks to make rides work, and tips to be shared about how to resolve negative situations, but beyond that this whole crazy thing gets pushed forward because we don't need centralization and standards.
I would switch up the format: make you evening about sharing experiences and holding a "good" ride vs. a shitty, dangerous, or "bad" ride. Make it about sharing contact info to laminate cards, sew on patches, setting up a sag rider with gear and tools, etc.
You'll have more success (and interest, quite frankly) by doing it that way.
ubrayj0207.31.10 - 1:10 am
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hey, i've even enjoyed the occasional shitty, dangerous ride. it's like going to a dive bar on wheels.
but in all seriousness, my original comment was very much to this point. i don't see very much hope in coming up with guidelines about "the way" to do a ride, much as im unsure it would be possible to get all of la's ride leaders into one physical location at one time.
and so the discussion goes on on the midnight ridazz forum, at mcworld, on facebook and in living rooms across our fair city. and i really feel that's how it's supposed to be.
tortuga_veloce responding to a
comment by ubrayj02
07.31.10 - 1:26 am
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I think FMLY's language was a bit off up top: aka "unified vision".
But I think the intent is solid.
I take it for granted that:
- nobody can dictate to another person or group how to do a ride.
- inherently, a meeting like this would be about idea & experience sharing.
Every ride has its own dynamic and intent.
There is no rule book or set of guidelines that could or should apply to every ride.
However, I do strongly support meeting in person to exchange & share ideas.
There is no way in the universe that it could hurt.
At the very least it is a chance to ride out to mid-city and talk to some ridazz i never met before.
trickmilla responding to a
comment by ubrayj02
07.31.10 - 1:06 pm
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I'm not saying there should be rules or guidelines. Obviously people will do what they want but why not try to make the rides better through sharing problems and experiences. This won't be the end of any conversation but the continuing of a never ending one. FMLY RIDE has had a lot of success with keeping trouble to a minimum and we would love to share that with people as I'm sure other people have things to bring too. It'd be great to share resources and grow together because when it comes down to it, don't we all just want people to be biking more?
FMLY07.31.10 - 1:21 pm
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BYOB, No bottles, Take what you brung in, out (or at least find a trash can).
It really is that simple.
Leave No Trace - Center for Outdoor Ethics
http://www.lnt.org
ChaosRR07.31.10 - 5:27 pm
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I shouldn't have said its that simple.
But if the community could get a higher percentage of the ridazz at large to abide by these simple rules and encourage others to do the same it would make a big difference.
ChaosRR07.31.10 - 5:32 pm
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it's what you dream about when you are awake
FMLY responding to a
comment by Aktive_420
08.1.10 - 9:25 pm
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should i attend this meeting?
no one ever lets me lead a ride :-(
Aktive_42008.3.10 - 2:41 am
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no one is stopping from making/leading your own rides. take a chance.
mechazawa responding to a
comment by Aktive_420
08.3.10 - 2:51 am
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Your meeting will be exactly when I am teaching a class.
dang.
trickmilla08.3.10 - 1:00 pm
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It's next Monday!
FMLY08.3.10 - 5:44 pm
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see ya guys soon!
FMLY08.9.10 - 1:44 am
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your in the wrong website KIMS1..sorry buddy. I love this site because you have the CHOICE of what kind of a ride you can attend,even better you can make your own.
Huey555 responding to a
comment by KiMS1
08.9.10 - 2:32 am
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Oh nevermind..what ROADBLOCK said..
Huey55508.9.10 - 2:33 am
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thank you pc.
now if you really want to help, tell everyone who will ever go on a midnight ridazz ride to make sure not to show up without one.
Well, Iain, I guess that's kind of my point. If I have to introduce a bunch of GROWN-ASS GODDAMN FUCKING ADULTS to the notion of bringing their own water bottles to a bike ride rather than expecting the ride to stop every five miles for an hour so they can go to 7-11, I'm honestly not sure that all the meetings in the world can save us.
And by "us," I of course mean the human race.
PC responding to a
comment by tortuga_veloce
08.9.10 - 3:08 pm
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PC:
Demographics have changed on MR from GROWN-ASS GODDAMN FUCKING ADULTS to barely sprouting pubes fixie kids......
no one can save us!
Foldie responding to a
comment by PC
08.9.10 - 3:10 pm
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maybe "unified vision" was not the ideal choice of words
but
i don't see how - to summarize - lets get together and share ideas
could draw opposition
suggestion box:
MR forum should have buttons you can click so you don't have to type out the following:
"If you don't want to do it, don't do it. No one is forcing you"
"How was your bike locked up?"
"So when does this ride leave?"
nolikedrive responding to a
comment by Foldie
08.9.10 - 4:00 pm
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any chance you will be going late?
I'll pass by there on my way home from work (10:30 or 11ish)
I'm really interested in hearing what ppl have to say.
trickmilla08.9.10 - 4:03 pm
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Sooo I wanted to go to the ride leader meeting ... one problem ... I lead a ride on monday nights ...
OsnapsonJC08.9.10 - 4:07 pm
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What's up ride leaders?
I founded and I lead the DENA MEAN STREETS Ridrzz (DMSR) Ride in the 626 area
I really wanted to make it out tonight but conditions didn't permit. Would have been interesting to meet some of you MR legends and talk about the rides/problems.
Hope the meeting goes well and it's productive.
-Rick
grAde08.9.10 - 5:45 pm
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Ridazz Roulette!
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