Critical Mass: Lets make it better!
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Aktive_420 at 09.7.10 - 10:07 am
So i have been thinking and expressing some ideas to many of you out there in the bicycle community about hosting a steering committee of sorts for critical mass and have gotten positive feed back so here it is.. lets do it!
i strongly believe that critical mass can function safely and in an orderly manner!
last critical mass we broke records once again.. 2,500 ridazz! woo hoo! according to LAPD
the month before 1,600 according to BHPD
and the previous around 1,100. ..
the numbers speak for themselves.
If a core group of dedicated ridazz could band together to steer this ride in to a positive direction Los Angeles Critical Mass could be so awesome.
If you think you would be willing to get more involved in minimizing the bullshit and bad element that ruins the ride for hundreds of others.. let me know so i can set a meeting up and get this going in time for the next ride!
I have the place and time in mind, but i need the dedication of YOU!...so let me know.
and yes, before you all start talking sh*t
"The last Friday of every month in over 100 cities around the world, cyclists, roller bladers, boarders, etc...come together for a festive rolling celebration. It's an organized coincidence with no leaders and no set agenda. People come together for many reasons, to assert their right to cleaner air, less congestion, safer roads, and to celebrate and ride in solidarity with other cyclists and like minded individuals. Celebrate this month with Critical Mass"
i know what critical mass is about... but without some sort of organization in this case a group of core ridazz committed to making this ride happen safely and successfuly each month, we might get to the point in which LAPD and the local governments will prevent us from riding. So before that happens like take this in the positive direction.
HAPPY 420
MOM RIDAZ
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Not to be a naysayer but.......
You can't envoke Rule 0 if there is no GM
Foldie09.7.10 - 10:36 am
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This has to happen--and the time is now. (Actually, the time more likely was some time ago, but no sense in belaboring that--it might as well be now.)
As I've typed before, there's little we here typing on keyboards can do to entirely stop or quell the problems that seems to occur more frequently than not on this wonderful last-Friday-of-the-month bike celebration. It’s a shame that the negative events are what get highlighted after the ride–and not the overwhelming positive experience that I would venture to guess upwards of 90+% of the participants experience. Every month we all hope for the best--and sometimes the general consensus is that it goes well, and sometimes not so well.
But mere hope ain't going get us, LACM, LAPD's tolerance, the larger LA cycling community, or our fellow not-yet-cycling city co-habitants’ minds where we would like it/them to be. If people want this ride to continue (and by "continue," I mean to have this ride continue to be whatever people want it to be--whether that be a celebration, a protest, an announcement, or just a bike ride) or even to grow as I would love to see it do so, it's got to be responsible in some fashion. Perhaps "responsible" isn't the right word--perhaps "respectful" or "aware" would be more appropriate.
There’s no reason why LACM can’t grow up–or as I suggested in the past, be transformed into something bigger, greater, more effective, more inclusive, and still a heck of a great time. Or why not transform it into something new and special for Los Angeles (while capitalizing on yet spring-boarding from the original concept of Critical Mass as it was conceived to be back in the 1990s? There really should be the 2nd coming of Critical Mass–or CMTNG–Critical Mass, The Next Generation (for the Trekkie nerds among us).
dudeonabike09.7.10 - 5:47 pm
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hmmm, this topic has been talked about many times.... someone once said bicycles with flags or music could lead the ride and then people got upset because CM is not suppose to have leaders and it is the mass that is making the decisions.... I disagree with that comment because the mass is not making the decision, only the person in the front or the people in the front decide to make a left, right or go straight... the people five blocks that are part of the mass are just trying to catch up and have no say on when to stop, when not to stop, when to regroup, when not to regroup... it is just a set of riders in the front... even when the ride leaves... someone or some group takes the responsibility to say, lets roll or after a stop once again... someone or some group says lets roll.... so, the leaderless objection to me, once again to me... doesnt make sense...
what seems to happen is that CM attracts many cyclists at all levels... you have the over 25 and the under 25 cyclists.... and it is the younger cyclists that are mainly riding on the wrong side and racing up to the front... now, this is not a rule and i am not saying that everyone on the wrong side of the street is under 25 and everyone racing is under 25...however, that is predominantly what is happening.... and it seems like those cyclists are at CM for the adrenaline rush, for the danger portion, for the dare devil within... and then you have the over 25 group that is there to participate and enjoy a night out riding in a large group.... it is understanding and realizing the younger group is there for a different reason and trying to find a way to harness that adrenaline....
although one thing has seemed to stay in place of the CM concept is that there is no route...but this in itself is an issue...when you have 1000 to 2000 cyclists...the streets selected is of concern...when the streets are narrow it creates a problem or coming off a wide street into a narrow street....
dayone09.7.10 - 6:19 pm
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so would it be good to say that for the 2nd coming of CM, so to speak, to happen change must take place?
This is why i want to hold a meeting for people that seriously hope to see a positive change for LACM....
To gather as one and operate this machine of a growing ride!
Aktive_42009.7.10 - 8:12 pm
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Sink or Swim.
And most of us knows what PC wants for LACM...
Joe Borfo09.7.10 - 8:26 pm
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There is a select group of people that run LACM, and that's the truth. Talk to
them.
imachynna09.8.10 - 1:05 am
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Oh, yanno. The people that somehow end up with a route and ride leaders every month.
imachynna responding to a
comment by GodLovesUgly
09.8.10 - 1:21 am
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http://midnightridazz.com/forums.php?topicId=15859&pgnum=1
Ninja biker responding to a
comment by GodLovesUgly
09.8.10 - 1:36 am
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it was a rhetorical question. i've been knowing
them for quite some time now. ok, g'nite.
GodLovesUgly responding to a
comment by Ninja biker
09.8.10 - 1:49 am
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call me tomorrow when you wake up to see about a rendezvous to get you some secret files.
GodLovesUgly responding to a
comment by imachynna
09.8.10 - 1:51 am
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The last 4 months there's been 1 month with 1/2 a route.
Alex Thompson responding to a
comment by imachynna
09.8.10 - 10:51 am
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For CM to be safe, it has to be non existent. I mean there will always be shit going on when you have so many cyclist in one spot. There will be safe and unsafe riders. Last CM I saw a jackass cyclist go the wrong way and hit a car head on. If I was in the car, I would of gotten out, made sure he was fine, then suckered punch him in the fucking face for hitting my car! Fuck! No wonder cyclist get such a bad rap! Kid had:
1) Fixie with no brakes!
2) No helmet
3) No Lights
4) Drunk
5) Underage.
My point is this: People, ride your bikes to school, work, to life. If you want to be safe, stay the fuck away from what I just described. They are young and so fucking stupid but hopefully they will learn. That is what is wrong with CM. That its open to ANYONE.
bicicleta_del_demonio09.8.10 - 1:49 pm
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One point that hasn't entered the discussion on this forum regarding group rides is the record of other, properly permitted and sanctioned, rides. The LA Marathon ride has some pretty horrific crashes and injuries every year it is run, due to the large numbers of clueless people stuck riding without thinking, or simply being unlucky or unaware.
It wouldn't take too much to have our community raise the bar and help one another become better riders.
The first Midnight Ridazz ride and Critical mass rides I went on I got lots of helpful tips from other riders and learned to obey a crude sort of rules that have protected me on group rides over the years.
I don't think I'm alone in offering up whatever material you guy may need to run support on these big rides (tubes, patches, pumps, lights, etc.) I know other shop owners would be down to help out too, so long as there is an effort to make the rides better and the community gets more organized.
ubrayj02 responding to a
comment by bicicleta_del_demonio
09.8.10 - 2:00 pm
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I dislike the finality of your post, even though it has some strong points.
We do not need to kill Critical Mass - We need to encourage it's EVOLUTION.
Joe Borfo responding to a
comment by bicicleta_del_demonio
09.8.10 - 2:02 pm
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- There are no easy solutions.
- Adapt processes to suit the change intended.
- Change requires teamwork and leadership (and the two are related).
- Work with the culture (even when you want to change it).
- Communicate, communicate, communicate.
Joe Borfo09.8.10 - 2:06 pm
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I don't think there is any argument with bicicleta_del_demonio's point about irresponsible cyclists. I have no interest in biking with such people. But unfortunately, plenty of them seem to show up to a ride that I happen to also be at--called Critical Mass.
Are we interested in educating these folks? Perhaps some of us would be--if we knew they would be receptive and it would have results.
Would any significant percentage of them be receptive? As bicicleta_del_demonio suggested, likely not. They just want to go on a bike ride, yell at cars, exert a 1st Amendment right, whatever--but not be schooled. I know I didn't want to be in my salad days either.
Either way, many will continue to gather at the Wilshire/Western Metro stop on the last Friday of the month.
So what to do? You've likely heard these options before--
1. Start another ride on the same date/time as LACM but in a different location? Call it Critical Manners, LACM--The Next Generation, or something completely anew.
2. Do a soft announcement of a change in the start location of LACM.
The idea of both of the above is obviously to part ways with a group of cyclists and start a new mass of riders--a new mass that has some to-be-determined overarching principals. That sounds a lot like many of the other rides that regularly occur, doesn't it? It can happen if folks are interested.
dudeonabike09.8.10 - 3:50 pm
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there's no stopping critical mass now... unless the LAPD turns it's back on it and starts ticketing... but that would be passing up an opportunity to grow and bond and gain the trust of the new generation - an opportunity that the LAPD sorely needs, and may never see again...
Roadblock09.8.10 - 3:54 pm
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Yeah. But may I add that I like this focus on collaborating on how to make CM safer and more positive.
Let's keep the momentum going?
I mean, you can always just let it be and watch it degenerate continually before your eyes, or a person can step up and contribute something to help make it go in a better direction. CM still holds a potential importance for bike awareness in this city. Lets head towards it?
Joe Borfo responding to a
comment by Roadblock
09.8.10 - 4:02 pm
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I agree.
I think the ultimate issue is that the youngsters need to buy in to the idea of riding to the right. other than that, is there really that much that is wrong with it? the talk about drunk kids on that ride is more hype than reality.
Roadblock responding to a
comment by Joe Borfo
09.8.10 - 4:06 pm
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Yeah. It's really not so bad. I guess the point is that BAD THINGS CAN AND DO HAPPEN ON LARGE GROUP RIDES. It's not something we can really control.
However, rather than do nothing about it and letting things degenerate - (STEALING. TAGGING. AGGRESSION TOWARDS CARS & PEDS, CIRCLE OF DEATH, BLOCKING TRAFFIC, ASSAULT, DUI, ETC.) - We can put more effort into communication, xerocracy, public discussion, exchange of ideas, and group participation into the struggle more than we have been. Admit it, there could be MORE energy put out into making LACM and large group rides safer in this manner.
That's my 2 cents on this. I've said it all many times. I know its getting old.
Let's get inspired to continue LACM towards a more positive results by sharing ideas and putting them into action.
NOTHING BUT RESISTANCE is what I've gotten in my attempts. Eventually, with enough help, something has got to give. Right?
Joe Borfo responding to a
comment by Roadblock
09.8.10 - 4:18 pm
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I agree with you but its going to take a lot to get me to come out at the end of the month after how ridiculous last month was ...
OsnapsonJC09.8.10 - 4:20 pm
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More solidarity rides and less riding bikes for the sake of riding
nicorete09.8.10 - 5:36 pm
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In coordination with other respected ridaz in this community:
WE WILL BE HOSTING a CRITICAL MASS steering committe this sunday for those that are SERIOUS and SINCERELY interested in making LACM a bigger, safer more enjoyable ride
THE MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR THIS SUNDAY
AT THE BIKE OVEN in cypress park
3706 NORTH FIGUEROA
LOS ANGELES, CA 90065
Meet up and socialize briefly at 7pm
meeting starts shortly after... unless its MOM ridaz time lol. jk.
if you have any questions
aktive420@gmail.com
Aktive_42009.9.10 - 11:42 am
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Nice--and thanks for putting this together.
Might there be a way to have someone take notes or jot down brief bullet points of the main ideas that were discussed--for those that can't make it but want to be involved in making a better LACM? The more people that know about the issues being discussed the better.
dudeonabike responding to a
comment by Aktive_420
09.9.10 - 12:01 pm
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I'd commit to doing it, but not sure I'll be able to pull away that night to attend (my kids' first day back at school is the following day).
dudeonabike responding to a
comment by Aktive_420
09.9.10 - 12:27 pm
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congrats! !
kinder? pre k? 1st?
thats a totally important day!
Aktive_420 responding to a
comment by dudeonabike
09.9.10 - 12:40 pm
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congrats?
md2 responding to a
comment by Aktive_420
09.9.10 - 12:45 pm
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I would love to attend the steering committee meeting but I'm going to be riding from SB-LA that day. If there was more lead time on the meet date that would be cool, or lets have the meeting online so everyone can participate.
Make a thread for it....
Roadblock09.9.10 - 12:49 pm
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dont worry mr block... this is only the 1st meeting. there will be follow up meetings..
i feel this shouldnt be a 1 time thing... we should plant a seed and see it grow.. not plant a seed and hope for the best.
Aktive_420 responding to a
comment by Roadblock
09.9.10 - 1:33 pm
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I agree... I'm just saying, it's hard enough to get to most of the steering committee meetings as it is... why not have it occur online so everyone can have a say at their own convenience... I know it's not very personal but if everyone's comments are on record by virtue of a forum thread, its more democratic. no one person can hijack the mike and the allotment of time is not an issue. just a thought. I'm stoked to see that something is getting done regardless. I have a lot of thoughts I would like to contribute to the discussion.
Roadblock responding to a
comment by Aktive_420
09.9.10 - 2:07 pm
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I'll try to be there. Let's be sure to document what was said at the meeting so it can be shared. Anyone got a video camera?
Joe Borfo09.9.10 - 2:18 pm
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do a live feed?
with forum comments to address, etc.
md2 responding to a
comment by Joe Borfo
09.9.10 - 2:20 pm
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Ive heard of this one guy Chicken Leather who I believe hangs at the oven and has been known to to man a camera!
buckchin responding to a
comment by Joe Borfo
09.9.10 - 2:29 pm
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I have yet to see anything that man has filmed on his cameras. Where does it all go?
Joe Borfo responding to a
comment by buckchin
09.9.10 - 2:30 pm
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What's on the agenda for this Steering Committee meeting?
Hallucin8 responding to a
comment by Aktive_420
09.9.10 - 2:37 pm
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Straight to the FBI. Im sure youve seen some!
buckchin responding to a
comment by Joe Borfo
09.9.10 - 2:38 pm
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I'd like to encourage the person who is known as LosAngelesCM on Twitter to attend this meeting too. He/She can come incognito if they want, but I think this person has some influence and needs to share ideas and comments too. Please come out some how.
Joe Borfo09.9.10 - 2:39 pm
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That is so true. Where are the tapes?
Foldie responding to a
comment by Joe Borfo
09.9.10 - 2:41 pm
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the types are being analyzed in d.c..
uncle sam wants YOU!
Aktive_420 responding to a
comment by Foldie
09.9.10 - 2:56 pm
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Yeah, let's take this into the 21st Century and strive to make it as inclusive (yet organized) as possible.
-The Mayor showed us what Google Moderator can do. We can use that if a benefit can be gleaned from it.
-There's GoToMeeting for online meeting/webinar hosting, which I've used in the past, and works well. (Question: is it free?)
-And there's probably all sorts of other new media-type web-based apps out there we could take advantage of.
Any other ideas?
dudeonabike09.9.10 - 3:26 pm
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Answer to my own question: GoToMeeting and GoToWebinar are free for 30 days (which would be a 30-day trial period . . . per person).
http://www.gotomeeting.com/fec/
dudeonabike09.9.10 - 3:41 pm
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Google Moderator looks good.
Hey, Aktive_420,
Create a Series on http://www.google.com/moderator so people can submit or vote on qustions and stuff from online. Try it at least.
Joe Borfo responding to a
comment by dudeonabike
09.9.10 - 3:46 pm
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ASK QUESTIONS FOR CRITICAL MASS MEETING HERE
http://goo.gl/mod/lgr3
Aktive_42009.9.10 - 11:55 pm
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or google : Los Angeles Critical Mass Steering Committee
Aktive_42009.9.10 - 11:59 pm
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Its great to see someone like you being a mod for a committee.
palucha66 responding to a
comment by Aktive_420
09.10.10 - 12:01 am
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DONT FORGET TO SUBMIT YOUR QUESTIONS FOR THE LACM STEERING COMMITTEE MEETING!
Aktive_42009.10.10 - 6:37 am
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Tweet it
Facebook it
Spread the link!
please RT ask your questions for LACM steering committee: http://goo.gl/mod/lgr3
Aktive_42009.10.10 - 12:51 pm
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Excellent.
Some really good questions coming in.
Especially from this Barfo person.
dudeonabike09.10.10 - 1:24 pm
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This coming sunday there is also a Bikeside meeting...
http://www.bikesidela.org/life-before-license-3rd-meeting-this-sunday-1-3pm/
Can't the meeting be done at the same place right after each other?
I'd end up biking all over the place...Not that I would'nt but I'd be all sweaty and yucky and stuff,shamwow can only hold so much LOL
Ninja biker09.10.10 - 3:46 pm
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I hope you guys put a LACM ride some were else so we dont have to listen to this crap over n over n over!!!!
GOOD LUCK!!!!
fixie4life09.10.10 - 5:42 pm
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unfortunately the bike oven operates and is open to the public from 1-4...
if it were later in day/evening.. maybe..
sorry though...
you know these darn bicylce collectives and their operations!.
woo hoo.. BIKE OVEN!!!
Aktive_420 responding to a
comment by Ninja biker
09.10.10 - 9:27 pm
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I'm w/ Ninja - we could just have the LACM meeting in Hollywood at 3 or 330 after the LB4L meeting. I can't make the Oven meeting, but I can stay in Hollywood a little later after LB4L.
Alex Thompson responding to a
comment by Aktive_420
09.10.10 - 10:13 pm
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Hmm, interesting comments here. Personally, I'm kind of wary about the formation of a self-appointed Steering Committee (aren't executive committees supposed to be democratic and recallable anyway?) for LACM. I don't think it's as out of control as a lot of people are making it out to be. In fact, for such a massive ride it's been remarkably drama-free since the LAPD joined *knocks on wood*. I'd also really hate to see the ride divided up into "organizers" and "participants" since the ride was built up by the community. Most of the questions/comments on the Google Moderator site have already been brought up on this forum before ... not sure if there is a need to take the discussion to a private venue, where participation is more limited.
With that being said ... it's pretty clear that the ride already has a de facto leadership since we hit up the same stops and routes month after month. If the committee could figure out how to make the leadership more transparent and the ride more democratic, that would be great. For whoever asked, there already is a CM wiki: http://criticalmass.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page It's for CM rides globally, but I don't see why we can't build up the [[Los Angeles]] page and use it for our purposes.
My suggestions:
*Roadblock or whoever gets on the mic/bullhorn before the ride should go through not only the Rulezz of the Ride but also through some of the "calls" that cyclists normally use. I'm referring to calling out potholes, pedestrians/cars, turns, slow down the pace, etc. I've noticed that increasingly fewer people use them, maybe because more and more new people join us every month. Also can you guys get a working bullhorn that doesn't cut out every 3 seconds or come out totally garbled (lol)?
*Keep the mass dense. Slow down the pace on hills/inclines, do "regroup loops" (someone suggested them here a few weeks ago ... do a loop around a block so the front of the mass merges with the stragglers behind), have more stops (but spend less time there), etc. The more the ride turns into a race or a show of bravado (people pulling dumb stunts, flying into opposite-way traffic, etc) the more it appeals to a narrow demographic and the more we alienate older riders, social riders who aren't all about speed, families, etc. I like it when the ride speeds up sometimes myself but its not cool to leave wide swaths of the ride behind or allow the ride to become so thinned out that cars take out lanes. Maybe we can make up for a slightly slower ride by going farther ... the People's Ride can wait! In general we need more education on "massing up." Riders who get left behind in the back of the ride should mass up instead of trying to haul ass to catch up with the ride on their own. When you're massed up you're more likely to be able to get through reds safely, you're more likely to be around someone who knows where the destination is and cars are less likely to take your lane.
*Some other CM rides in the US print out and pass out flyers to people along the route who inevitably ask "what are you riding for?/where are you guys going?/what is this?" etc. The flyer explains what CM is, why we ride, where we meet, a call to join us, maybe an apology for anyone who is inconvenienced or insulted and so on. It might win us more allies (and get us more ridazz!) if we do something like that instead of yelling out "Your mom!" or non-nonsensical stuff like "cancer."
That's my 2 cents ... sorry if this post is tl;dr. :)
Hallucin809.11.10 - 12:01 am
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I just typed up this page:
http://criticalmass.wikia.com/wiki/Los_Angeles,_California
Don't get mad if the info is wrong, I went based on what I found online. Edit it, add to it, correct it!
Hallucin809.11.10 - 2:04 am
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dont worry guys, if you cant make it tomorrow.. this is a seed we need to plant and watch it go...
so of course this wont be the only meeting!
Aktive_420 responding to a
comment by Alex Thompson
09.11.10 - 7:08 am
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Hallucin8, you make many valid points....
on a personal note, it cracks me up how you're wary about the committee forming and at the same time make a suggestion to it... lol..
but getting back to your suggestions... hope you can come out
Aktive_420 responding to a
comment by Hallucin8
09.11.10 - 7:14 am
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Maybe you can host the next steering discussion....after all this is a communal discussion.
The meeting I planned is just a starting point...there is no leadership I understand...but there can be a group of dedicated Ridazz helping LACM become ever more successful.
I DON'T claim leadership but I do plan on being an Aktive member in making this ride more successful (no pun intended) with other conscious Ridazz.
Aktive_420 responding to a
comment by Alex Thompson
09.11.10 - 10:05 am
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I think "steering committee" is not really the word we are looking for.
These should be open community discussions.
They do not need to be structureless, but they should be open, accessible, and ongoing.
What we are really looking for here is a chance for people to have in person discussions and work together to try and make for e better mass.
That's a community forum, not a steering committee.
I think this is a great idea. I'm glad you are doing it.
trickmilla09.11.10 - 11:33 am
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Well, from the looks of the responses so far. Not many really give a shit.
This may be a good indicator of the success of trying to make changes for the better for LACM.
Joe Borfo09.11.10 - 7:41 pm
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I think this is awesome - http://criticalmass.wikia.com/index.php?title=Los_Angeles,_California&&cb=4636&fbconnected=1
good job.
Joe Borfo09.11.10 - 7:44 pm
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I think we need to meet up with influential organizers of CM rides in other states and cities.
They can give us feedback and insight into what we are doing right are wrong.
FYI - Portland Critical Mass is dead.
Joe Borfo09.11.10 - 7:48 pm
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oops, I meant - http://criticalmass.wikia.com/wiki/Los_Angeles,_California
good job Hallucin8 and Alice.
COMMUNICATION!!!!
Joe Borfo09.11.10 - 7:58 pm
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Aren't lights also required to ride just as helmets are for those under 18?
dave responding to a
comment by Joe Borfo
09.11.10 - 8:33 pm
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Those were just open suggestions ... to this community, to the committee you're organizing, to the people who already de facto lead the ride, to whoever. I mostly agree with what trickmilla said. I don't think I support a formal leadership of the ride but I think open community discussions are great. Hope you guys come back and report on what's said and done so those of us who can't show up can comment and what not.
Hallucin8 responding to a
comment by Aktive_420
09.12.10 - 2:14 am
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Thanks, I appreciate it. Hopefully if Roadblock makes a MR wiki we can go more in depth ... and document individual rides and what not, that'd be great.
Hallucin8 responding to a
comment by Joe Borfo
09.12.10 - 2:15 am
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I'm sorry Aktive - I won't be able to make it to the meeting tonight.
I did submit a whole bunch of questions for discussion on the google moderator.
I will make it out to the next meeting.
Joe Borfo responding to a
comment by Aktive_420
09.12.10 - 6:32 pm
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Sorry I was unable to make it as well.
Got lost then halfway there an emergency came up.
I'll be there for the next one for sure.
Ninja biker09.12.10 - 9:59 pm
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You cannot control the masses, you can only control yourself. If you do not like the ride, do not go. This will be your protest. Start another ride on that day.
shotgun_mike09.12.10 - 11:03 pm
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Come on Borfo,
You know Chicken Leather & I don't "own" our footage...
It is reagularly picked up by the real owners:
The Men in Black
jk
I love shooting,
I just don't have time to edit
last weekend someone I trust offered to help, for free, I think
I look forward to it...
Gern responding to a
comment by Joe Borfo
09.13.10 - 12:03 pm
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GREAT DISCUSSION WAS HAD THIS PAST SUNDAY THE 12th...
good points brought up.
thanks to all that came out.. i will keep you posted...
those of you that emailed me that you couldnt i will be in touch
Alex Thompson suggested a 2nd meeting this sunday..
Would Anyone be interested in attending.. Hollywood
Aktive_42009.13.10 - 9:30 pm
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THERE the meeting is set for this sunday!....its on the calendar!
Aktive_42009.15.10 - 9:04 pm
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Aktive, if you guys are meeting please post the notes from the last meeting. lets keep as many people as possible informed about this. Someone should be taking notes and posting them around the web so thats its not just known to the people who could make it in person.
Roadblock responding to a
comment by Aktive_420
09.15.10 - 9:24 pm
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i think itll be fine if we just STOP ROLLING AROUND SOUTH CENTRAL
Alfalfa09.18.10 - 1:20 pm
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its not where we go
south LA is not a problem
the problem is what happens during the ride!///
STEALING!
CROSSING INTO ONCOMING TRAFFIC
to name a couple.
Aktive_420 responding to a
comment by Alfalfa
09.18.10 - 3:01 pm
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Fuckkkk
I knew I forgot something today..
Sorry dood I just woke up.
Ninja biker09.19.10 - 1:57 pm
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Damn Crankmas
Anyway I'll look for you at CM,what kinda bike you riding?
Ninja biker responding to a
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09.21.10 - 4:54 pm
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what up ride leaders. I'm working on a spoke card for this week's LACM. It will have a "Ride to the Right" message on front and a bunch of logos from ride groups that support this message. The idea is to reach out to everyone NOT to ride into oncoming traffic. This is the ONE greatest issue for the LAPD. If people continue to ride into oncoming traffic they will get ticketed!
send me your logos to put on the back of this spoke card. It will be presented at a press conference tomorrow and passed out at LACM on Friday.
send high res jpegs to roadblock at midnightridazz dot com.
Roadblock responding to a
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09.21.10 - 5:03 pm
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Have you heard about this: LAPD to hold a press conference on Wed at 5 pm to discuss some thoughts about this Friday's LA Critical Mass.
Looking for some more info....
dudeonabike09.21.10 - 5:56 pm
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the NYC Critical Mass is ticket and patrolled so badly that you end up having several groups strtched out over miles at diffrent stop lights. what starts out as a large ride quickly becomes a small ride of a few frustrated people. Its really fuckin lame!! If we are not careful, the cops can crush it if they wanted to, and make it more of a pain in the ass than its worth.
jaywalker responding to a
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09.21.10 - 7:06 pm
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i ride a PEUGEOT
but im usually at the front of CM..
look for my BIG ASS MARIJUANA LEAF!
MOM RIDAZ PATCH!
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09.21.10 - 10:02 pm
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