It just shows that honest cops are a dying breed
apineda05.28.09 - 11:28 am
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That's sad.
It's things like this that root out "good cops" and where bad cops thrive.
Its fucked up and at the root of what's wrong with LAPD.
Scary shit!
thanks for the link.
trickmilla05.28.09 - 11:36 am
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The real thing that struck me as being unmentioned in this story is that most LAPD cops don't even live in Los Angeles - they live in places like Simi Valley. This was one cop that actually lived in a Los Angeles neighborhood (and maybe not the best one at that) and had a stake in the quality of life where he worked.
mr rollers05.28.09 - 12:49 pm
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that was a good read...thanx
i did not know there were cops that thought they way of their jobs...and the one that did they killed his dream...
pretti*ugli05.28.09 - 1:07 pm
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@rollers yeah that has to be the biggest problem with the LAPD. a lot of them are from the boonies and have no clue about the city culture they are policiing. we need more community policing by people who are from the community.
of course... that can also be problematic:
"Franklin acknowledged in court that he knew Bond, the accused shooter, vaguely -- hiring him once for a day to work for the private security company he runs on the side."
I have a feeling there is more to this story and that both sides are guilty of "politickin'" Cops have these "private security firms" that operate on off duty hours and that's kinda shady in itself... the connection between the local gang and this cop is just too cozy.... I need more information than what the times is putting out to evaluate this story.
Roadblock responding to a
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05.28.09 - 1:34 pm
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I dont know about that. The search warrant said this was a known gang hangout. That seems pretty clearly false.
tortuga_veloce responding to a
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05.28.09 - 1:43 pm
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i'll still say F&^% ALL cops..... please spare the lectures
AIDS66 responding to a
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05.28.09 - 1:52 pm
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Yes, some of the details her are murky, but could be a great opportunity to comment on our latest incidents?
Maybe email the author of the article and let him know about other instances of LAPD fail?
Maybe?
HappyLand05.28.09 - 2:22 pm
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not trying to diss what may be a solid cop.... the questions are there though... someone he hired as a security guard for his own private security firm was also a suspect in the shooting.... I need more info on this.
Roadblock responding to a
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05.28.09 - 2:43 pm
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Why isn't this guy in line to be Chief of Police? Oh that's right...politics.
If there is anyone who can clean up the mess of LAPD, it's him.
skd05.28.09 - 2:48 pm
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I'm pretty sure anyone that says "F&^% ALL cops" would change that tune at warp speed if a criminal had a gun to their head and a cop was across the street.
Don't be stupid.
BlAcKnYeLLoWfUji responding to a
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05.28.09 - 6:18 pm
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Roadblock does raise a valid point.
Speculation: If a cop is seen verbally engaging gang members on his front porch to speak about issues relevant to their lives, is it a "gang hangout"? Obviously, the answer is yes.
If gang members hang out there, it
is in fact a gang hangout. The problem is, the word "gang" has such a negative stigma attached to it (rightfully so), and adds negative weight to this officer's position.
This is all under MY assumption that this cop was labeled as being an animal for living in a zoo.
BlAcKnYeLLoWfUji responding to a
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05.28.09 - 6:28 pm
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I actually know of a few, LAPD officers that live up here in the desert.
At a Farmer Boys, I was chatting with some people in line getting my zuchinni and went with my usual, "Desert rat vs. Down-the-hill transplant" rant about why they moved up here.
They said, "I've been with the LAPD for 10-20 years,.etc and that area's the last place I want to raise my kids."
They then end the conversation with, "You must be some sort of fool to want to abandon this paradise up here."
I in turn respond with, "Well, you're obviously doing a good job down there, because all those crooks you flushed out came up here!!!"
Look of "Shit" on their face was priceless.
bentstrider responding to a
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05.29.09 - 3:32 am
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@roadblock
go to page three of he affidavit. it says it explicitly. cops were fucking lying.
http://www.latimes.com/media/acrobat/2009-05/47159725.pdf
tortuga_veloce responding to a
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05.29.09 - 10:51 am
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I'm sure the cops
were lying but how does the affidavit say they were lying? all it says is that the murder suspect frequented the location... I mean, the good cop did hire the suspect as a member of his private security team.... again, I think it's LAPD politickin and it's just weird that there actually was a connection between the murder suspect and the cop.
makes me think that Cops really shouldnt be allowed to run private security firms. they do all kind of shady shit... not to diss what very well could be a clean cop, but all we have is the LA Times story.... maybe it's more complicated? maybe the murder suspect wasnt a gang member and is being framed?
Roadblock responding to a
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05.29.09 - 11:08 am
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It doesn't say that in the affidavit. With regard to the officer's connection to the suspect, I don't think that it so far-fetched that a cop running a private security company would hire a neighborhood tough guy who ended up being a gang member. and yes, maybe this suspect was innocent.
Is that wrong? Maybe. But, it's commonplace. Many police officers take a "second job" on their days off. They pay well and are easy. The security companies don't need to offer the types of insurance or benefits that would normally be expected from such a gig, because these are covered by the LAPD. Is it double-dipping at the expense of the taxpayer? Very likely. But it's so common that it's become part of the job and compensation.
i think it's pretty clear that the cops were lying about this guys house. i mean, he's a cop with two young kids, for god's sake! this makes no sense:
"Woodlawn is a known Four-Trey gang hangout. There have been numerous citizen complaints of gang activity and blatant narcotics sales/use at this location....Emmit Bond frequented the location...has been seen at the location on numerous occasions [and] delivers narcotics and stashes weapons at the location."
tortuga_veloce responding to a
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05.29.09 - 11:46 am
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nothing you said or referenced proves anything.... if Bond is a gang member and hangs out at a cops house, well.... then the affidavit has at least a kernal of truth. I just think that it's fishy that there was a connection between a murder suspect and the cop. I'm not coming to a conclusion either way. and just because the cop has two kids means that a gangmember didnt go to his house? c'mon...
and just because something is commonplace doesnt mean it's ok. I know it's commonplace for cops to run private security firms... that doesnt make it ok in my book. In fact I think it's WRONG. these private security firms are known to protect shady people and that creates a conflict of interest because the shady people enjoy being cozy with working cops. it opens up the possibility of special treatment as a person who is paying an officer of the law! it's not a good thing.
again, I'm sure this is some internal LAPD politrickin and both sides are shady... I won't pass judgement unless I know the whole story.
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05.29.09 - 11:57 am
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