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HOPIUM Confronting Facism in the Obama Era
Thread started by User1 at 05.24.09 - 8:45 pm



Just a friendly heads up to anyone is interested. Our favorite agitator Stimulator/ will be visiting our fair city this Tuesday the 2nd.

Los Angeles
Tuesday June 2nd, 8:00pm
KIWA
3465 West 8th Street
Admission $5-$10 sliding scale





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how about some more information?



monovsstereo
05.24.09 - 9:43 pm

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Not sure what information you're looking for. The link above links his website. From there you should be able to learn about Stimulator. I've posted some videos on here that he's done. You could find them on his site, or search for his name in the body of posts.



User1
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05.25.09 - 12:52 pm

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Is this something to do with DISINFO kinda fun?



ephemerae
05.25.09 - 9:02 pm

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I can't help but laugh whenever someone tries to portray Obama as a fascist.



monovsstereo
05.25.09 - 9:26 pm

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control is fascism.



coldcut
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05.25.09 - 9:36 pm

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so what you're saying is that every president and really every politician is a fascist?

I think it's a little extreme to allege that Obama is one. At least for now.



monovsstereo
05.25.09 - 10:01 pm

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I don't.

As much as you may want to like the guy, there's no denying the position he holds. He is arguably the most powerful man to have ever lived.

I fundamentally believe noone should possess that kind of power, or any for that matter.

I would totally go to this, but I have finals that week! Fucking fascists...



Conspirate
05.25.09 - 10:44 pm

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This makes me laugh.

You know you've all fallen into the trap, right? The government WANTS you to mistrust it, it maintains more control over you this way, makes more money off of you this way! YOU are doing exactly what it wants!

hahahahaahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa!



la duderina
05.25.09 - 10:56 pm

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I don't care about liking the guy. I don't even know him.

Sure, I voted for him, but it was as much a vote against Palin as for Obama. You can argue against the lesser of two evils voting but that's not really the point of this thread.

I'm aware that he in a powerful position but how is it any different than any other president? I mean if it is, clue me in. I'm not against learning and I'm not pre-disposed to thinking you're lying.



monovsstereo
05.25.09 - 10:56 pm

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If I misunderstood something, and this is purely about over-reaching presidential powers, regardless or party or perpetrator, then I support it.

ps I love alliteration.



monovsstereo
05.25.09 - 11:02 pm

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facepalm



coldcut
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05.25.09 - 11:42 pm

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i was going to say basically this. you don't need to look at obama in particular. although there certainly are a number of things you could call him out on, including wiretapping and making the executive branch not responsible and basically immune in law.

baby i'm an anarchist.



Conspirate
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05.25.09 - 11:48 pm

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Even when bush was prez I recognized that he himself was only a figurehead for a cabal of money interests....

and this dude's videos.... too sensationalist. they only sing to the choir. They might be artististic but they won't do much to change anyone's minds.



Roadblock
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05.26.09 - 12:09 am

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Every president we've had since Carter have been fascists. Some more than others. All the presidents have taken the position of the US as being an imperialist nation that pretty much calls the shots in world politics. Obama is looking to be no different than his predecessors. He's going to back down on closing Gitmo, he's backtracked on releasing photos depicting illegal detention and treatment of war prisoners, he's backtracking on pulling troops out of Iraq and is turning his back on the people that put him in office. He's abandoning the issues and stance that got him in office the first place. Time will bear this out.





User1
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05.26.09 - 12:13 am

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I think he's far better at delivering a blow than this site you're referring to. Plus he doesn't make you suffer though lame commercials!



User1
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05.26.09 - 12:16 am

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To be fair to Obama, he signed the order closing Guantanamo and then got fucked by the idiot dems (i.e. Reid) buying the bullshit about the prisoners being released. I really didn't know Reid was that retarded.

As to the pictures of torture and shit, I believe the CIA announced they couldn't release them due to an order signed by Bush in 2003 that keeps classified documents being used in active investigations. So maybe Obama could reverse that order, I don't know, but as it stands it's not on him that they haven't come out yet.

However I do think the fact that he plans to continue Bush's suspension of habeas corpus under a new name is total bullshit.



monovsstereo
05.26.09 - 1:09 am

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No, Obama is defying a court order to release the photos. Obama takes risk with reversal on detainee photos. Again, he's turning his back on the issues and the people that got him in office. He'll take awhile for this to sink in with the public, but give it time.

Granted he's doing far better than Bush ever did, or McCain would have ever done, but that doesn't mean he's doing a good job or he's not a fascist.



User1
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05.26.09 - 1:26 am

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I'm not really trying to defend the guy, just was curious about the intent of the original post.
He totally got railroaded on the funds for closing Gitmo. Reid actually made a statement about releasing the detainees being a public safety issue. When someone said uhh they're not getting released they're being moved to a prison he said "you can't put them in prison without releasing them." Fucking idiot.

Still though. This indefinite pre-emptive detaining bullshit has to go.

I think we can all agree that pretty much all politicians are fuckfaces. Except for maybe Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich. And I've got my eye on them...



monovsstereo
05.26.09 - 5:14 am

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bump for peace.





User1
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05.26.09 - 2:16 pm

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Less than 18 hours till the Stim makes it to our beloved city of angels.

His latest post titled, The real cost of slave labour. So appalling seeing a video from a country we support. The story comes from Isaac K. Oommen.



User1
06.2.09 - 12:13 am

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LESS THAN 12 HOURS TILL THE STIM!!





User1
06.2.09 - 8:37 am

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‘Hopium’ takes the West Coast by storm

Los Angeles
Tuesday June 2nd, 8:00pm
KIWA
3465 West 8th Street
Admission $5-$10 sliding scale



User1
06.2.09 - 8:42 am

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Where's there a burrito joint in Venice for Stim?

Zup!

I'm in Hell-A right now hoping not to get lost on the fuckin highways again. Going to spend the afternoon recharging my batteries on Venice beach and look for the perfect burrito. Any suggestions?

This is it, the last week of the Hopium tour, so if you are in Los Angeles or in Denver, don't be a punk ass and come give me a terrorist fist jab.

Woop!

love//stim



User1
06.2.09 - 11:44 am

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